RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Since this tread was started for me I have installed a motor on my 1200. I have 
also bought some gears. I need help in identifying some of the gears. The first 
was marked ½ in black on one side and .50 on the other. Is there a .50 re 
duction gear
Set? 


 
I also want to see if I have identified the 2X multiplier set correctly.





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From: wkhill99
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

I like it!  The setup doesn't look too terribly complicated.  I'm guessing the 
complicated part comes when setting up Mach 3 for the travel, etc.  I'll 
definitely be hanging on to this email chain.

Just echoing what other people have already said...  any additional details you 
want to throw in will be greatly received (ie, videos, walk-throughs, etc.).

Thanks Dustin!  ...and well done!

-Wes


On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:49 AM gearhed1971  wrote:
I like the timing pulley setup, what parts did you use?


On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 10:48:41 AM UTC-4, Curt George wrote:
Hello Everyone  
Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own as a 
new topic.


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Hi Richard
I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
appreciated.
Thanks
Denson


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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[wkhill99]

I like it!  The setup doesn't look too terribly complicated.  I'm guessing
the complicated part comes when setting up Mach 3 for the travel, etc.
I'll definitely be hanging on to this email chain.

Just echoing what other people have already said...  any additional details
you want to throw in will be greatly received (ie, videos, walk-throughs,
etc.).

Thanks Dustin!  ...and well done!

-Wes


On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 8:49 AM gearhed1971  wrote:

> I like the timing pulley setup, what parts did you use?
>
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 10:48:41 AM UTC-4, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone
>> Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own
>> as a new topic.
>>
>>
>> From:
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>> Hi Richard
>> I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be
>> appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Denson
>>
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[gearhed1971]

I like the timing pulley setup, what parts did you use?


On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 10:48:41 AM UTC-4, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone  
> Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own 
> as a new topic.
>
>
> From:
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> Fri, Jun 12 at 12:56 PM
> Hi Richard
> I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
> appreciated.
> Thanks
> Denson
>
>
>
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello.Very nice work.  One request, How about a over view of the hole unit?  
The up close is very nice, but I am getting lost in the details. ;-)  And I 
agree with Bill, I video would be nice. Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 08:36:22 PM EDT, Chainlink 
 wrote:  
 
 Ok, I finally got around to posting. If anyone has questions, please ask. The 
reason I did this exactly the way I did was because I wanted to be able to 
reverse it all and go back to a regular legacy. The only hole I drilled into 
the legacy was into the rotary axis to tap a thread. I added a UHMW block to 
the gantry on the back side that was fitted into the legacy rail to lessen the 
racking that happens when changing directions.
First photo, z axis. 3:1 (I don't think it's 6:1) reduction. large pulley is 
sized to fit on the existing legacy Z shaft. Connection of stepper motor uses 
some t slot nuts that fit the legacy extrusion.
Second photo, Y axis. Used legacy parts to attach the wood to the rails. motor 
is direct connected to Y axis with zero backlash nuts, i think they are called 
spider connections, not sure, but those connections are the right size for the 
shaft of the stepper and the shaft of the y axis.
Third photo, X axis front. this is more complicated. I turned the x leadscrew 
around and direct connected like with the Y axis.
Fourth photo, x axis rear. Shows connection to legacy rail with t slot nuts.
Fifth photo, Rotary axis front. Ok, this takes a bit of explanation. There is a 
1/4" round shaft with a flat ground in it that goes through the legacy rotary 
axis. Note the tapped allen bolt, it secures the rotary axis to that 1/4 shaft 
and pulley. A bronze bushing holds the 1/4 shaft on the outside aluminum plate. 
Two large threaded rods bolt to the legacy frame using existing holes--nylock 
nuts keep the aluminum plates connected and parallel. 
Sixth photo, rotary axis rear. Clear view of ball bearing tensioners. These are 
not adjustable, as I wasn't smart or patient enough to figure out how to make 
them have variable tension. They keep the belt tight on the pulleys.
Seventh photo, rotary axis top.
Eighth photo, rotary axis front. Shows timing belt and pulley configuration. 
It's a 3:1 and 3:1 reduction as I recall.
Last photo, rotary axis top. Shows detail of connection to rotary axis.


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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Tim Ziegler]

Dustin I must say I am very impressed. Nice clean work and best of all it
looks like it works extremely well too.
I am looking to modify the Z access for up and down as well.
Thanks again for sharing.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM Chainlink  wrote:

> Ok, I finally got around to posting. If anyone has questions, please ask.
> The reason I did this exactly the way I did was because I wanted to be able
> to reverse it all and go back to a regular legacy. The only hole I drilled
> into the legacy was into the rotary axis to tap a thread. I added a UHMW
> block to the gantry on the back side that was fitted into the legacy rail
> to lessen the racking that happens when changing directions.
>
> First photo, z axis. 3:1 (I don't think it's 6:1) reduction. large pulley
> is sized to fit on the existing legacy Z shaft. Connection of stepper motor
> uses some t slot nuts that fit the legacy extrusion.
>
> Second photo, Y axis. Used legacy parts to attach the wood to the rails.
> motor is direct connected to Y axis with zero backlash nuts, i think they
> are called spider connections, not sure, but those connections are the
> right size for the shaft of the stepper and the shaft of the y axis.
>
> Third photo, X axis front. this is more complicated. I turned the x
> leadscrew around and direct connected like with the Y axis.
>
> Fourth photo, x axis rear. Shows connection to legacy rail with t slot
> nuts.
>
> Fifth photo, Rotary axis front. Ok, this takes a bit of explanation. There
> is a 1/4" round shaft with a flat ground in it that goes through the legacy
> rotary axis. Note the tapped allen bolt, it secures the rotary axis to that
> 1/4 shaft and pulley. A bronze bushing holds the 1/4 shaft on the outside
> aluminum plate. Two large threaded rods bolt to the legacy frame using
> existing holes--nylock nuts keep the aluminum plates connected and
> parallel.
>
> Sixth photo, rotary axis rear. Clear view of ball bearing tensioners.
> These are not adjustable, as I wasn't smart or patient enough to figure out
> how to make them have variable tension. They keep the belt tight on the
> pulleys.
>
> Seventh photo, rotary axis top.
>
> Eighth photo, rotary axis front. Shows timing belt and pulley
> configuration. It's a 3:1 and 3:1 reduction as I recall.
>
> Last photo, rotary axis top. Shows detail of connection to rotary axis.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Harvey Matyas]

That is a really nice job on the LOM. impressive!

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM Chainlink  wrote:

> Ok, I finally got around to posting. If anyone has questions, please ask.
> The reason I did this exactly the way I did was because I wanted to be able
> to reverse it all and go back to a regular legacy. The only hole I drilled
> into the legacy was into the rotary axis to tap a thread. I added a UHMW
> block to the gantry on the back side that was fitted into the legacy rail
> to lessen the racking that happens when changing directions.
>
> First photo, z axis. 3:1 (I don't think it's 6:1) reduction. large pulley
> is sized to fit on the existing legacy Z shaft. Connection of stepper motor
> uses some t slot nuts that fit the legacy extrusion.
>
> Second photo, Y axis. Used legacy parts to attach the wood to the rails.
> motor is direct connected to Y axis with zero backlash nuts, i think they
> are called spider connections, not sure, but those connections are the
> right size for the shaft of the stepper and the shaft of the y axis.
>
> Third photo, X axis front. this is more complicated. I turned the x
> leadscrew around and direct connected like with the Y axis.
>
> Fourth photo, x axis rear. Shows connection to legacy rail with t slot
> nuts.
>
> Fifth photo, Rotary axis front. Ok, this takes a bit of explanation. There
> is a 1/4" round shaft with a flat ground in it that goes through the legacy
> rotary axis. Note the tapped allen bolt, it secures the rotary axis to that
> 1/4 shaft and pulley. A bronze bushing holds the 1/4 shaft on the outside
> aluminum plate. Two large threaded rods bolt to the legacy frame using
> existing holes--nylock nuts keep the aluminum plates connected and
> parallel.
>
> Sixth photo, rotary axis rear. Clear view of ball bearing tensioners.
> These are not adjustable, as I wasn't smart or patient enough to figure out
> how to make them have variable tension. They keep the belt tight on the
> pulleys.
>
> Seventh photo, rotary axis top.
>
> Eighth photo, rotary axis front. Shows timing belt and pulley
> configuration. It's a 3:1 and 3:1 reduction as I recall.
>
> Last photo, rotary axis top. Shows detail of connection to rotary axis.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

If any of you guys were wanting the router bit templates I have two sets left. 
They are 81/2”x11”x3/32” clear acrylic. The match the originals with the bit 
numbers etched by each profile. The turned out good. Ray bought a set at my 
cost to have the duplicated.
Contact me at densoning...@charter.net if wot want a set.
Thanks
Denson

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> On Jun 22, 2020, at 3:52 PM, wkhill99 .  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dustin,
> 
> That was quite a summary.  Thank you!  I'm definitely interested in pursuing 
> the stepper motor path.  I just need to get a "kitchen-pass" from the wife!!!
> 
> -Wes
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 7:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> Thank you.
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Sunday, June 21, 2020, 05:08:38 PM EDT, Chainlink 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I don't usually have problems turning 2 and 3 inch square stock to round 
>> except when I hit a knot. That's when I lose steps; it's catastrophic if I 
>> lose steps when threading.
>> 
>> I bought a 4 axis kit some years ago for a homemade CNC machine. I 
>> repurposed that kit on the Legacy. I bought a kit from the following company 
>> very close to this one:  
>> https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/g540-4-axis-kit-115v230vac/
>>  It's listed now at $617, and I probably paid 500 something for it those 
>> years ago. this company also offers another kit with 570 oz steppers 
>> https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/4-axis-stepper-motor-cnc-router/
>> 
>> What would I do different? 
>> 1. I'd start with a geared stepper rather than making a gear reduction with 
>> pulleys and timing belts. 
>> 2. I really like having some of the axes directly connected to the stepper 
>> motor because it's so simple and less can go wrong. 
>> 3. I'd add limit switches to avoid crashes on both extents of x y and z 
>> axes. Right now I have only an x min endstop to avoid crashing into the 3 
>> jaw chuck.
>> 4. I'd prefer the shortest machine possible for working my dowels, which has 
>> always been 4 feet. I'm not crazy enough to cut irreplacable rails, so I'd 
>> try and lock the height and level of the legacy to make it more ridgid 
>> because I always tend to be a little tapered on one end of a dowel. 
>> 5. I still like using mach3, although its strengths lie in straight lines 
>> and not in circles and ellipses. I've not used it at all for relief carving; 
>> everything is turning spindles and threading, which it does well. If I were 
>> to start over, I'd probably look at how to interface with Vectric and more 
>> modern controllers so I don't have to rely on parallel port connections on 
>> ancient computers. I keep 2 spare computers laying around just in case, 
>> which is silly.
>> 
>> I promise that I will take some pics this week.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[wkhill99 .]

Dustin,

That was quite a summary.  Thank you!  I'm definitely interested in
pursuing the stepper motor path.  I just need to get a "kitchen-pass" from
the wife!!!

-Wes

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 7:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020, 05:08:38 PM EDT, Chainlink <
> dustinyo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't usually have problems turning 2 and 3 inch square stock to round
> except when I hit a knot. That's when I lose steps; it's catastrophic if I
> lose steps when threading.
>
> I bought a 4 axis kit some years ago for a homemade CNC machine. I
> repurposed that kit on the Legacy. I bought a kit from the following
> company very close to this one:
> https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/g540-4-axis-kit-115v230vac/
>  It's
> listed now at $617, and I probably paid 500 something for it those years
> ago. this company also offers another kit with 570 oz steppers
> https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/4-axis-stepper-motor-cnc-router/
>
> What would I do different?
> 1. I'd start with a geared stepper rather than making a gear reduction
> with pulleys and timing belts.
> 2. I really like having some of the axes directly connected to the stepper
> motor because it's so simple and less can go wrong.
> 3. I'd add limit switches to avoid crashes on both extents of x y and z
> axes. Right now I have only an x min endstop to avoid crashing into the 3
> jaw chuck.
> 4. I'd prefer the shortest machine possible for working my dowels, which
> has always been 4 feet. I'm not crazy enough to cut irreplacable rails, so
> I'd try and lock the height and level of the legacy to make it more ridgid
> because I always tend to be a little tapered on one end of a dowel.
> 5. I still like using mach3, although its strengths lie in straight lines
> and not in circles and ellipses. I've not used it at all for relief
> carving; everything is turning spindles and threading, which it does well.
> If I were to start over, I'd probably look at how to interface with Vectric
> and more modern controllers so I don't have to rely on parallel port
> connections on ancient computers. I keep 2 spare computers laying around
> just in case, which is silly.
>
> I promise that I will take some pics this week.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Ray Leaman]

This is useful information.  More on how this woud be done would be helpful
to some of us wanting to update older mills.

Thanks

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 8:18 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020, 05:08:38 PM EDT, Chainlink <
> dustinyo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don't usually have problems turning 2 and 3 inch square stock to round
> except when I hit a knot. That's when I lose steps; it's catastrophic if I
> lose steps when threading.
>
> I bought a 4 axis kit some years ago for a homemade CNC machine. I
> repurposed that kit on the Legacy. I bought a kit from the following
> company very close to this one:
> https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/g540-4-axis-kit-115v230vac/
>  It's
> listed now at $617, and I probably paid 500 something for it those years
> ago. this company also offers another kit with 570 oz steppers
> https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/4-axis-stepper-motor-cnc-router/
>
> What would I do different?
> 1. I'd start with a geared stepper rather than making a gear reduction
> with pulleys and timing belts.
> 2. I really like having some of the axes directly connected to the stepper
> motor because it's so simple and less can go wrong.
> 3. I'd add limit switches to avoid crashes on both extents of x y and z
> axes. Right now I have only an x min endstop to avoid crashing into the 3
> jaw chuck.
> 4. I'd prefer the shortest machine possible for working my dowels, which
> has always been 4 feet. I'm not crazy enough to cut irreplacable rails, so
> I'd try and lock the height and level of the legacy to make it more ridgid
> because I always tend to be a little tapered on one end of a dowel.
> 5. I still like using mach3, although its strengths lie in straight lines
> and not in circles and ellipses. I've not used it at all for relief
> carving; everything is turning spindles and threading, which it does well.
> If I were to start over, I'd probably look at how to interface with Vectric
> and more modern controllers so I don't have to rely on parallel port
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thank you.C.A.G.
On Sunday, June 21, 2020, 05:08:38 PM EDT, Chainlink 
 wrote:  
 
 I don't usually have problems turning 2 and 3 inch square stock to round 
except when I hit a knot. That's when I lose steps; it's catastrophic if I lose 
steps when threading.
I bought a 4 axis kit some years ago for a homemade CNC machine. I repurposed 
that kit on the Legacy. I bought a kit from the following company very close to 
this one:  
https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/g540-4-axis-kit-115v230vac/
 It's listed now at $617, and I probably paid 500 something for it those years 
ago. this company also offers another kit with 570 oz steppers 
https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/4-axis-stepper-motor-cnc-router/
What would I do different? 1. I'd start with a geared stepper rather than 
making a gear reduction with pulleys and timing belts. 2. I really like having 
some of the axes directly connected to the stepper motor because it's so simple 
and less can go wrong. 3. I'd add limit switches to avoid crashes on both 
extents of x y and z axes. Right now I have only an x min endstop to avoid 
crashing into the 3 jaw chuck.4. I'd prefer the shortest machine possible for 
working my dowels, which has always been 4 feet. I'm not crazy enough to cut 
irreplacable rails, so I'd try and lock the height and level of the legacy to 
make it more ridgid because I always tend to be a little tapered on one end of 
a dowel. 5. I still like using mach3, although its strengths lie in straight 
lines and not in circles and ellipses. I've not used it at all for relief 
carving; everything is turning spindles and threading, which it does well. If I 
were to start over, I'd probably look at how to interface with Vectric and more 
modern controllers so I don't have to rely on parallel port connections on 
ancient computers. I keep 2 spare computers laying around just in case, which 
is silly.

I promise that I will take some pics this week.

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Chainlink]

I don't usually have problems turning 2 and 3 inch square stock to round 
except when I hit a knot. That's when I lose steps; it's catastrophic if I 
lose steps when threading.

I bought a 4 axis kit some years ago for a homemade CNC machine. I 
repurposed that kit on the Legacy. I bought a kit from the following 
company very close to this one:  
https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/g540-4-axis-kit-115v230vac/
 It's 
listed now at $617, and I probably paid 500 something for it those years 
ago. this company also offers another kit with 570 oz steppers 
https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/g540-stepper-motor-kits/4-axis-stepper-motor-cnc-router/

What would I do different? 
1. I'd start with a geared stepper rather than making a gear reduction with 
pulleys and timing belts. 
2. I really like having some of the axes directly connected to the stepper 
motor because it's so simple and less can go wrong. 
3. I'd add limit switches to avoid crashes on both extents of x y and z 
axes. Right now I have only an x min endstop to avoid crashing into the 3 
jaw chuck.
4. I'd prefer the shortest machine possible for working my dowels, which 
has always been 4 feet. I'm not crazy enough to cut irreplacable rails, so 
I'd try and lock the height and level of the legacy to make it more ridgid 
because I always tend to be a little tapered on one end of a dowel. 
5. I still like using mach3, although its strengths lie in straight lines 
and not in circles and ellipses. I've not used it at all for relief 
carving; everything is turning spindles and threading, which it does well. 
If I were to start over, I'd probably look at how to interface with Vectric 
and more modern controllers so I don't have to rely on parallel port 
connections on ancient computers. I keep 2 spare computers laying around 
just in case, which is silly.

I promise that I will take some pics this week.

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Chainlink]

Yes, I'll take some photos next time I'm at the shop.

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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Most commonly when turning to a shoulder that a want a large radius or a 
sweeping curve following a vertical template.

 

Before you ask with the plunge routers springs removed and a roller the same 
dia as the corbox bit mounted where one of the routers handles are.

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 4:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hellow Bill. Thanks for your answer. What reason to use core box bit instead of 
surface planning bit?

Arkady from Ukraine.

 

сб, 20 июн. 2020 г., 05:04 mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >:

Most things require a bit of modifying to work I guess that’s why its called 
fitting in the trade 

 

Bill

 

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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Tim, I printed off your actual sized picture of the mounting plate and compared 
it to my 1200.  The 1200 came pre-drilled from Legacy to receive the mounting 
plate for a 4Z131B.  What I discovered from your drawing is that the shaft 
diameter is located correctly and oversized adequately to slip over the 5/8" 
leadscrew, but only the top hole that attaches the plate to the frame leg 
matches up properly.  Since I don't have this motor, I suggest that it would be 
easy to fashion a mounting plate from 1/8" steel using your pattern, drill the 
second plate mounting hole to match the 1200's other predrilled hole, get the 
motor and drill the plate to match the motor mounting holes.  This will only 
work for those with a 1200 (or 2000) with a 4Z131B motor, of course. 

 

John 

 



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To:  <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hi Arkady,

 

Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see 
if it will work for you

 

I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor 
mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on the 
Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you have roller 
bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have those dimensions.

 

Please let me know if this works for you.

 

-Tim

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:17 AM

To:  <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hello everybody.

I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to mount 
it to my LOM 900.

Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?

Arkady from Ukraine.

 

 

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Hellow Bill. Thanks for your answer. What reason to use core box bit
instead of surface planning bit?
Arkady from Ukraine.

сб, 20 июн. 2020 г., 05:04 :

> Most things require a bit of modifying to work I guess that’s why its
> called fitting in the trade 
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 11:25 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>
>
> Tim, I printed off your actual sized picture of the mounting plate and
> compared it to my 1200.  The 1200 came pre-drilled from Legacy to receive
> the mounting plate for a 4Z131B.  What I discovered from your drawing is
> that the shaft diameter is located correctly and oversized adequately to
> slip over the 5/8" leadscrew, but only the top hole that attaches the plate
> to the frame leg matches up properly.  Since I don't have this motor, I
> suggest that it would be easy to fashion a mounting plate from 1/8" steel
> using your pattern, drill the second plate mounting hole to match the
> 1200's other predrilled hole, get the motor and drill the plate to match
> the motor mounting holes.  This will only work for those with a 1200 (or
> 2000) with a 4Z131B motor, of course.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
> artmarb...@comcast.net 
>
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:47 PM
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>
>
> Hi Arkady,
>
>
>
> Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and
> see if it will work for you
>
>
>
> I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128
> motor mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only
> work on the Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you
> have roller bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have
> those dimensions.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if this works for you.
>
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
>
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:17 AM
>
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>
>
> Hello everybody.
>
> I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to
> mount it to my LOM 900.
>
> Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
>
> Arkady from Ukraine.
>
>
>
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Most things require a bit of modifying to work I guess that’s why its called 
fitting in the trade 

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 11:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Tim, I printed off your actual sized picture of the mounting plate and compared 
it to my 1200.  The 1200 came pre-drilled from Legacy to receive the mounting 
plate for a 4Z131B.  What I discovered from your drawing is that the shaft 
diameter is located correctly and oversized adequately to slip over the 5/8" 
leadscrew, but only the top hole that attaches the plate to the frame leg 
matches up properly.  Since I don't have this motor, I suggest that it would be 
easy to fashion a mounting plate from 1/8" steel using your pattern, drill the 
second plate mounting hole to match the 1200's other predrilled hole, get the 
motor and drill the plate to match the motor mounting holes.  This will only 
work for those with a 1200 (or 2000) with a 4Z131B motor, of course. 

 

John 

 



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Subject: RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hi Arkady,

 

Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see 
if it will work for you

 

I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor 
mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on the 
Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you have roller 
bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have those dimensions.

 

Please let me know if this works for you.

 

-Tim

 

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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hello everybody.

I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to mount 
it to my LOM 900.

Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?

Arkady from Ukraine.

 

 

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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

After you get all set up and going please send us a video of it all working.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 11:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Great

Thank you

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Jun 19, 2020, at 8:16 PM, artmarb...@comcast.net 
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Dirt cheap example.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-ME-8108-Momentary-Self-reset-Limit-Switch-Roller-Lever-CNC-Mill-Plasma-IP65/402283547370?hash=item5da9f7caea:g:lwAAAOSwBhJe1zwG

 

Not an endorsement. 

 

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Thank you.

Denson

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Most industrial style limit switches offer both nc/no (normally closed/normally 
open). Legacy used normally closed. They broke the power to the motor. The over 
ride switch closed the connection to the motor so you could switch the 
direction of the motor and back off the limit switch. 

 

Ebay is a good source, other wise they are very expensive via standard 
industrial supply houses.

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Does anyone have the specs on the original legacy lead screw limit switches or 
know where I can find two that will work on LOM?

Thanks

Denson

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I think that is quite a good deal considering back in the day to buy from 
legacy was almost $1000

 

Bill

 

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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.

Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
limit switches and a mounting plate.

Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.

Denson

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On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 . mailto:wkhil...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Bill, 

 

A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how strong 
it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper sizing.  I 
don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my LOM but then 
again many folks may have used their machine in a different capacity.

 

Dustin,

 

How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I noticed 
that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a CNC Lathe 
and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?

 

Wes

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get the 
torque to work the legacy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hey Bill,

 

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 
1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

 

Wes

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun

Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

No they are bushings.

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 8:28 PM, artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the input.  Does your 1200 have the roller bearings on the 
> leadscrew?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:25 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Tim, I printed off your actual sized picture of the mounting plate and 
> compared it to my 1200.  The 1200 came pre-drilled from Legacy to receive the 
> mounting plate for a 4Z131B.  What I discovered from your drawing is that the 
> shaft diameter is located correctly and oversized adequately to slip over the 
> 5/8" leadscrew, but only the top hole that attaches the plate to the frame 
> leg matches up properly.  Since I don't have this motor, I suggest that it 
> would be easy to fashion a mounting plate from 1/8" steel using your pattern, 
> drill the second plate mounting hole to match the 1200's other predrilled 
> hole, get the motor and drill the plate to match the motor mounting holes.  
> This will only work for those with a 1200 (or 2000) with a 4Z131B motor, of 
> course. 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  on behalf of 
> artmarb...@comcast.net 
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:47 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Hi Arkady,
> 
> Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see 
> if it will work for you
> 
> I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor 
> mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on 
> the Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you have roller 
> bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have those dimensions.
> 
> Please let me know if this works for you.
> 
> -Tim
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:17 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Hello everybody.
> I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to 
> mount it to my LOM 900.
> Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
> Arkady from Ukraine.
> 
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

I don’t have any specs but limit switches are all over ebay

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 10:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Does anyone have the specs on the original legacy lead screw limit switches or 
know where I can find two that will work on LOM?

Thanks

Denson

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On Jun 19, 2020, at 7:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I think that is quite a good deal considering back in the day to buy from 
legacy was almost $1000

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 8:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.

Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
limit switches and a mounting plate.

Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone






On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 . mailto:wkhil...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Bill, 

 

A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how strong 
it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper sizing.  I 
don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my LOM but then 
again many folks may have used their machine in a different capacity.

 

Dustin,

 

How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I noticed 
that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a CNC Lathe 
and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?

 

Wes

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get the 
torque to work the legacy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hey Bill,

 

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 
1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

 

Wes

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> <mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com 
<mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no long

RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[artmarbles]

Thanks for the input.  Does your 1200 have the roller bearings on the leadscrew?

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Tim, I printed off your actual sized picture of the mounting plate and compared 
it to my 1200.  The 1200 came pre-drilled from Legacy to receive the mounting 
plate for a 4Z131B.  What I discovered from your drawing is that the shaft 
diameter is located correctly and oversized adequately to slip over the 5/8" 
leadscrew, but only the top hole that attaches the plate to the frame leg 
matches up properly.  Since I don't have this motor, I suggest that it would be 
easy to fashion a mounting plate from 1/8" steel using your pattern, drill the 
second plate mounting hole to match the 1200's other predrilled hole, get the 
motor and drill the plate to match the motor mounting holes.  This will only 
work for those with a 1200 (or 2000) with a 4Z131B motor, of course. 

John 


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of artmarb...@comcast.net 

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:47 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

Hi Arkady,

Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see 
if it will work for you

I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor 
mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on the 
Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you have roller 
bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have those dimensions.

Please let me know if this works for you.

-Tim

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:17 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Hello everybody.
I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to mount 
it to my LOM 900.
Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
Arkady from Ukraine.


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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[JOHNNY L TYLER]

Tim, I printed off your actual sized picture of the mounting plate and compared 
it to my 1200.  The 1200 came pre-drilled from Legacy to receive the mounting 
plate for a 4Z131B.  What I discovered from your drawing is that the shaft 
diameter is located correctly and oversized adequately to slip over the 5/8" 
leadscrew, but only the top hole that attaches the plate to the frame leg 
matches up properly.  Since I don't have this motor, I suggest that it would be 
easy to fashion a mounting plate from 1/8" steel using your pattern, drill the 
second plate mounting hole to match the 1200's other predrilled hole, get the 
motor and drill the plate to match the motor mounting holes.  This will only 
work for those with a 1200 (or 2000) with a 4Z131B motor, of course. 

John 


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of artmarb...@comcast.net 

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:47 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

Hi Arkady,

Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see 
if it will work for you

I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor 
mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on the 
Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you have roller 
bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have those dimensions.

Please let me know if this works for you.

-Tim

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:17 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Hello everybody.
I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to mount 
it to my LOM 900.
Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
Arkady from Ukraine.


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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[artmarbles]

Dirt cheap example.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-ME-8108-Momentary-Self-reset-Limit-Switch-Roller-Lever-CNC-Mill-Plasma-IP65/402283547370?hash=item5da9f7caea:g:lwAAAOSwBhJe1zwG

 

Not an endorsement. 

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 6:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Thank you.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Jun 19, 2020, at 8:04 PM, artmarb...@comcast.net 
<mailto:artmarb...@comcast.net>  wrote:



Most industrial style limit switches offer both nc/no (normally closed/normally 
open). Legacy used normally closed. They broke the power to the motor. The over 
ride switch closed the connection to the motor so you could switch the 
direction of the motor and back off the limit switch. 

 

Ebay is a good source, other wise they are very expensive via standard 
industrial supply houses.

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 5:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Does anyone have the specs on the original legacy lead screw limit switches or 
know where I can find two that will work on LOM?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone






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<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I think that is quite a good deal considering back in the day to buy from 
legacy was almost $1000

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 8:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.

Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
limit switches and a mounting plate.

Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone







On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 . mailto:wkhil...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Bill, 

 

A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how strong 
it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper sizing.  I 
don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my LOM but then 
again many folks may have used their machine in a different capacity.

 

Dustin,

 

How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I noticed 
that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a CNC Lathe 
and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?

 

Wes

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get the 
torque to work the legacy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hey Bill,

 

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 
1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

 

Wes

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Wan

Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Thank you.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 8:04 PM, artmarb...@comcast.net wrote:
> 
> 
> Most industrial style limit switches offer both nc/no (normally 
> closed/normally open). Legacy used normally closed. They broke the power to 
> the motor. The over ride switch closed the connection to the motor so you 
> could switch the direction of the motor and back off the limit switch.
>  
> Ebay is a good source, other wise they are very expensive via standard 
> industrial supply houses.
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 5:45 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>  
> Does anyone have the specs on the original legacy lead screw limit switches 
> or know where I can find two that will work on LOM?
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 7:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I think that is quite a good deal considering back in the day to buy from 
> legacy was almost $1000
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 8:31 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>  
> Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.
> Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
> limit switches and a mounting plate.
> Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 .  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill, 
>  
> A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how 
> strong it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper 
> sizing.  I don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my 
> LOM but then again many folks may have used their machine in a different 
> capacity.
>  
> Dustin,
>  
> How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I 
> noticed that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a 
> CNC Lathe and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?
>  
> Wes
>  
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM  wrote:
> Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get 
> the torque to work the legacy
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
> Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>  
> Hey Bill,
>  
> Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
> Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
> Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  
> About 1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really 
> slowly.
>  
> Wes
>  
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM  wrote:
> I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
> they run slow without torque  loss
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>  
> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like 
> a nema-23 or 34?
>  
> Wes
>  
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
> 
> Bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  
> 
> John Tyler
> 
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  on behalf of John Hennen 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended 
> in 2008.
> 
> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
> The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
> mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
> makes/supplie

RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[artmarbles]

Most industrial style limit switches offer both nc/no (normally closed/normally 
open). Legacy used normally closed. They broke the power to the motor. The over 
ride switch closed the connection to the motor so you could switch the 
direction of the motor and back off the limit switch. 

 

Ebay is a good source, other wise they are very expensive via standard 
industrial supply houses.

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 5:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Does anyone have the specs on the original legacy lead screw limit switches or 
know where I can find two that will work on LOM?

Thanks

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Jun 19, 2020, at 7:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



I think that is quite a good deal considering back in the day to buy from 
legacy was almost $1000

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 8:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.

Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
limit switches and a mounting plate.

Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone






On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 . mailto:wkhil...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Bill, 

 

A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how strong 
it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper sizing.  I 
don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my LOM but then 
again many folks may have used their machine in a different capacity.

 

Dustin,

 

How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I noticed 
that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a CNC Lathe 
and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?

 

Wes

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get the 
torque to work the legacy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hey Bill,

 

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 
1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

 

Wes

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 sha

Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Does anyone have the specs on the original legacy lead screw limit switches or 
know where I can find two that will work on LOM?
Thanks
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 7:15 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I think that is quite a good deal considering back in the day to buy from 
> legacy was almost $1000
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 8:31 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>  
> Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.
> Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
> limit switches and a mounting plate.
> Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.
> Denson
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 .  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill, 
>  
> A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how 
> strong it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper 
> sizing.  I don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my 
> LOM but then again many folks may have used their machine in a different 
> capacity.
>  
> Dustin,
>  
> How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I 
> noticed that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a 
> CNC Lathe and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?
>  
> Wes
>  
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM  wrote:
> Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get 
> the torque to work the legacy
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
> Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>  
> Hey Bill,
>  
> Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
> Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
> Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  
> About 1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really 
> slowly.
>  
> Wes
>  
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM  wrote:
> I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
> they run slow without torque  loss
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>  
> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like 
> a nema-23 or 34?
>  
> Wes
>  
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
> 
> Bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  
> 
> John Tyler
> 
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  on behalf of John Hennen 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended 
> in 2008.
> 
> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
> The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
> mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
> 
> John Tyler
> 
> 
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
> To: 
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
> 
> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> > mailto:legacy-

RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

My answer is yes, set up the legacy way the finish is not that good try it 
yourself by manually turning the single handle. 

Then set up and turn the 2 handles together the leadscrew slow and the spindle 
fast and you will see a much better finish almost doesn’t need sanding. Now if 
turning with a corbox bit which I do from time to time you need lots of rpm on 
the spindle with a very fine feed of the leadscrew to get a nice finish.

 

Now if you make fine pitch gears like I did and set the mill the legacy way 
with a 1/16 pitch instead of 1/2 then you get the same result with just one 
motor but to get that is lots of work a second motor is easier but all this is 
just my opinion.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 9:38 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hello.

Question about spindel motor. Is it any advantage in results using spindel 
motor compared drive motor with 0.25 gear set as Legacy recommend?

Arkady from Ukraine.

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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

1/20 hp   and Torque: 27.0 in.-lb  that is what legacys is so that or higher. 
this motor is 109 rpm max but for a spindle motor the same except I would like  
150rpm but that’s just me I like a bit faster spindle speed when turning 
especially if using a corbox bit.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 5:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Bill, 

 

A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how strong 
it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper sizing.  I 
don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my LOM but then 
again many folks may have used their machine in a different capacity.

 

Dustin,

 

How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I noticed 
that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a CNC Lathe 
and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?

 

Wes

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get the 
torque to work the legacy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hey Bill,

 

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 
1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

 

Wes

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> <mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com 
<mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll chec

RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

I think that is quite a good deal considering back in the day to buy from 
legacy was almost $1000

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 8:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.

Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
limit switches and a mounting plate.

Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.

Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 . mailto:wkhil...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Bill, 

 

A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how strong 
it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper sizing.  I 
don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my LOM but then 
again many folks may have used their machine in a different capacity.

 

Dustin,

 

How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I noticed 
that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a CNC Lathe 
and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?

 

Wes

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get the 
torque to work the legacy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hey Bill,

 

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 
1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

 

Wes

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> <mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com 
<mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Hello.
Question about spindel motor. Is it any advantage in results using spindel
motor compared drive motor with 0.25 gear set as Legacy recommend?
Arkady from Ukraine.

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Well just bought a Dayton 4Z131B new on eBay for under $200 shipped.
Found a nice controller on eBay as well around $115 shipped. Now just need 
limit switches and a mounting plate.
Hope I got a good price. All those I’ve asked said yes.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, wkhill99 .  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill, 
> 
> A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how 
> strong it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper 
> sizing.  I don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my 
> LOM but then again many folks may have used their machine in a different 
> capacity.
> 
> Dustin,
> 
> How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I 
> noticed that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into a 
> CNC Lathe and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?
> 
> Wes
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM  wrote:
>> Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get 
>> the torque to work the legacy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
>> Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey Bill,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
>> Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34). 
>>  Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  
>> About 1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really 
>> slowly.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Wes
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
>> they run slow without torque  loss
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like 
>> a nema-23 or 34?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Wes
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  
>> 
>> John Tyler
>> 
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  on behalf of John Hennen 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended 
>> in 2008.
>> 
>> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that. 
>>  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
>> mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
>> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
>> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
>> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
>> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>> 
>> John Tyler
>> 
>> 
>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
>> To: 
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> > mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.c

Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[wkhill99 .]

Bill,

A 387 oz nema-23 has 24lbs/in of torque.  What are your thoughts on how
strong it needs to be?  This goes back to my earlier question about proper
sizing.  I don't think I've ever applied that much force when turning on my
LOM but then again many folks may have used their machine in a
different capacity.

Dustin,

How much did your setup set you back (if you don't mind me asking)?  I
noticed that you are using Mach3.  You've essentially turned your LOM into
a CNC Lathe and small bed CNC.  What would you do differently in retrospect?

Wes

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:06 AM  wrote:

> Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get
> the torque to work the legacy
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *wkhill99 .
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low
> speeds.  Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema
> 23 or 34).  Here's an example youtube:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 1 min or so into the
> video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.
>
>
>
> Wes
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or
> can they run slow without torque  loss
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *wkhill99 .
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>
>
> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their
> legacy, like a nema-23 or 34?
>
>
>
> Wes
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
>
> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the
> follow-up!
>
> John Tyler
>
> ____
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> on behalf of John Hennen <
> john.hen...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used
> ended in 2008.
>
> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten
> that.  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER  cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer
> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news
> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks
> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>
> John Tyler
>
> ____
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from
> WE Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit
> switches can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put
> together the speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should
> be available from Grainger ... Joe B.
> >
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Looks impressive but I think the motor would need to be much bigger to get the 
torque to work the legacy

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hey Bill,

 

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.  
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or 34).  
Here's an example youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 
1 min or so into the video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

 

Wes

 

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

-Original Message-
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> <mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com 
<mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
>
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Tim Ziegler]

could you show more of the stepper motor on the Z access? I think that
would be one
of the things most of us would agree on would be the most beneficial to get
up and out
of the cut to prevent the burning or little snip a lot of us get?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:26 AM Chainlink  wrote:

> Wes,
>
> I did a conversion to CNC on a legacy 1200 with steppers. I have nema23
> 387oz. steppers and a 6:1 gear reduction on the Z and rotary axis, and a
> straight coupling on the X and Y. The setup is adequate on X,Y and Z, but
> the rotary axis needs a lot more torque. I haven't looked into what the
> most powerful nema23 motor that can be run on a Gecko 540 is, but that's
> what I would try next.
>
> My video from years ago doesn't yet have the gear reductions, but it shows
> some of the setup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlQ46e3gwiA. Next time
> I fire it up, I'll try to shoot a new video for the groups' benefit.
>
> Dustin
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Chainlink]

Wes,

I did a conversion to CNC on a legacy 1200 with steppers. I have nema23 
387oz. steppers and a 6:1 gear reduction on the Z and rotary axis, and a 
straight coupling on the X and Y. The setup is adequate on X,Y and Z, but 
the rotary axis needs a lot more torque. I haven't looked into what the 
most powerful nema23 motor that can be run on a Gecko 540 is, but that's 
what I would try next.

My video from years ago doesn't yet have the gear reductions, but it shows 
some of the setup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlQ46e3gwiA. Next time I 
fire it up, I'll try to shoot a new video for the groups' benefit.

Dustin

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Thanks Curt and Tim.
Arkady from Ukraine.

пт, 19 июн. 2020 г., 07:25 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>:

> Thanks Tim.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 05:01:23 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Arkady,
>
>
>
> The model 1000 is completely different from what you need. The attached
> file from the manual might help you see how it was done on the last version
> of the OM..
>
>
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
>
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thanks Tim.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 05:01:23 PM EDT,  
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Arkady,

  

The model 1000 is completely different from what you need. The attached file 
from the manual might help you see how it was done on the last version of the 
OM.. 

  

-Tim

  

  


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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[wkhill99 .]

Hey Bill,

Steppers are variable speed and can have pretty high torque at low speeds.
Just needs to be sized correctly for the LOM (I'm thinking a nema 23 or
34).  Here's an example youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FsA1yoZ840  About 1 min or so into the
video, the fellow has the motor going really slowly.

Wes

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:39 PM  wrote:

> I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or
> can they run slow without torque  loss
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *wkhill99 .
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>
>
> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their
> legacy, like a nema-23 or 34?
>
>
>
> Wes
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
>
> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the
> follow-up!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> on behalf of John Hennen <
> john.hen...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used
> ended in 2008.
>
> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten
> that.  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER  cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer
> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news
> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks
> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from
> WE Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit
> switches can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put
> together the speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should
> be available from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

I don’t know anything about stepper motors aren’t they high speed rpm or can 
they run slow without torque  loss

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of wkhill99 .
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 1:12 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> <mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com 
<mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >>
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
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> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Yes I have seen them for 5 or $600

 

Bill

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 8:01 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

I was wondering that myself.

Also found one of the Legacy/Grainger motors used says good condition wants 
$160 plus $25 shipping. Is that a good price? Anyone?

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:33 PM, wkhill99 . mailto:wkhil...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like a 
nema-23 or 34?

 

Wes

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of John Hennen 
mailto:john.hen...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> <mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com 
<mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> >> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >>
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<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

Sent from Denson's iPhone

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> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

I was wondering that myself.
Also found one of the Legacy/Grainger motors used says good condition wants 
$160 plus $25 shipping. Is that a good price? Anyone?

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2020, at 4:33 PM, wkhill99 .  wrote:
> 
> 
> Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their legacy, like 
> a nema-23 or 34?
> 
> Wes
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:
>> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  
>> 
>> John Tyler
>> 
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  on behalf of John Hennen 
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended 
>> in 2008.
>> 
>> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that. 
>>  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
>> mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
>> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
>> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
>> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
>> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>> 
>> John Tyler
>> 
>> ____
>> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
>> To: 
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>> 
>> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>> 
>> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> > mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
>> > Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit 
>> > switches can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put 
>> > together the speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should 
>> > be available from Grainger ... Joe B.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

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Has anyone considered using stepper motors / drivers with their
legacy, like a nema-23 or 34?

Wes

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:09 PM  wrote:

> Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of JOHNNY L TYLER
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:58 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the
> follow-up!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> on behalf of John Hennen <
> john.hen...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used
> ended in 2008.
>
> I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten
> that.  The speed control you will need to fit the motor.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER  cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer
> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news
> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks
> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from
> WE Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit
> switches can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put
> together the speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should
> be available from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[artmarbles]

Hi Arkady,

 

Print out the attached pdf file using the “Print Actual Size” setting and see 
if it will work for you

 

I made this file by using cad data from Grainger and modified my 4Z128 motor 
mount. I have not verified any of the dimensions and it should only work on the 
Model 900 that has bronze bushing on the leadscrew.  If you have roller 
bearings on the leadscrew, it might not work.  I don’t have those dimensions.

 

Please let me know if this works for you.

 

-Tim

 

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 On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:17 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hello everybody.

I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to mount 
it to my LOM 900.

Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?

Arkady from Ukraine.

 

 

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Hello Curt. Please give me pics.

чт, 18 июн. 2020 г., 16:36 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Hello Arkady
>
> On my 1000ex the end cap, on the Legacy has the bolt pattern cut into it.
> The motor was to be a straight line coupling to the acme screw and bolt
> into/on the end plate of the machine.
> If you like I can take a photo latter? But it was a simple hole pattern
> one large hole for the acme screw To run through, and 4 smaller ones for
> the bolts to mount the motor.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 04:17:22 AM EDT, Arkady Paka <
> arkadyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello everybody.
> I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to
> mount it to my LOM 900.
> Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
> Arkady from Ukraine.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Arkady
On my 1000ex the end cap, on the Legacy has the bolt pattern cut into it. The 
motor was to be a straight line coupling to the acme screw and bolt into/on the 
end plate of the machine.If you like I can take a photo latter? But it was a 
simple hole pattern one large hole for the acme screw To run through, and 4 
smaller ones for the bolts to mount the motor.
C.A.G.On Thursday, June 18, 2020, 04:17:22 AM EDT, Arkady Paka 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello everybody.I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket 
blueprint to mount it to my LOM 900.Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?Arkady 
from Ukraine.






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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Arkady Paka]

Hello everybody.
I have dayton 4Z131B 90 volt dc motor but can't find bracket blueprint to
mount it to my LOM 900.
Anybody can help? Maybe some pics?
Arkady from Ukraine.


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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

looks like it would work your controller would need to be 130volts to suit the 
motor

 

Bill

 

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Subject: Fw: Want to put a motor my 1200 

 

I stirred around in some storage area of my shop and found a box  containing 
material purchased when motorizing one of my machines. If you think any or all 
can be utilized on a Legacy, make a reasonable offer including shipping and 
perhaps we can deal.

If you need more pics, let me know. 

Maybe some of the more experienced members can help

max

 

 

 

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Subject: Want to put a motor my 1200 

 

Hello Everyone  

Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own as a 
new topic.

 

 

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Hi Richard 

I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
appreciated.

Thanks

Denson

 

 

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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

What is that controller? Looks like a 3 phase one

 

Bill

 

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Pics too big to send all. So here's another installment

 

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I stirred around in some storage area of my shop and found a box  containing 
material purchased when motorizing one of my machines. If you think any or all 
can be utilized on a Legacy, make a reasonable offer including shipping and 
perhaps we can deal.

If you need more pics, let me know. 

Maybe some of the more experienced members can help

max

 

 

 

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Hello Everyone  

Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own as a 
new topic.

 

 

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Hi Richard 

I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
appreciated.

Thanks

Denson

 

 

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[JOHNNY L TYLER]

Hi Bill, this looks to be the one you refer to.  If so, do I understand 
correctly that a drive motor is needed on each end of the worm drive shaft?  
Thanks to you and all for the collective expertise of folks on this subject! 

John Tyler


https://www.zoro.com/dayton-dc-gearmotor-109-rpm-90v-tenv-4z131/i/G2208717/#specifications


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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 5:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!

John Tyler


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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
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Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

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> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Legacys exact  motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

Bill

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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

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> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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>
> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Legacys motor was a dayton 4Z131B 90volt dc motor

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 9:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

As someone mentioned a few posts ago Grainger has pretty much everything you'll 
need. 

One of you guys that has the part no's want to chime in?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 5:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> > wrote:

Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

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>
> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Motors can be sourced you just have to get creative roller door motors, 
mobility scooter motors are good you get faward reverse and speed control on 
them . or ebay for a 90volt dc geared motor something around 100rpm, ebay has 
speed controllers too 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYTON-DC-Speed-Control-90VDC-2A-NEMA-1-5X412/253826435142?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200520130048%26meid%3D71043dfb880748938b865f4f9e62d739%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D253820519303%26itm%3D253826435142%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bDemotion%26brand%3DDayton
 
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 &_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851

 

Believe me I’m no expert the motors you saw working in the video of mine were 
small ac motors the speed was controlled with sprockets like a bike not a speed 
controller they weren’t ideal. Motors for the legacy are a difficult road for 
the legacy but not impossible. You can even go into a armature winder shop they 
can get exactly what you need but at a price here down under $1000 would set me 
up but that’s too much for me to pay.

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of John Hennen
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2020 8:33 AM
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008. 

 

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor. 

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com> > wrote:

Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

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> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[JOHNNY L TYLER]

Thanks for the clarification, John.  I very much appreciate the follow-up!  

John Tyler


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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 3:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Grainge stopped making the speed control in 2005. The DC motor we used ended in 
2008.

I recommended a Dzc motor with a 5/8 shaft. But you may have forgotten that.  
The speed control you will need to fit the motor.


On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:18 PM JOHNNY L TYLER 
mailto:cloudanc...@msn.com>> wrote:
Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer 
makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news 
that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks 
like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!

John Tyler


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Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

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> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Tim Ziegler]

As someone mentioned a few posts ago Grainger has pretty much everything
you'll need.
One of you guys that has the part no's want to chime in?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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> Update:  I called Legacy and was told by John that Grainger no longer
> makes/supplies the motor or limit switches.  More discouraging was the news
> that he has no other sources to recommend to me/us.  Dead end there!  Looks
> like Bill is the resident expert on do-it-yourself drive motors!
>
> John Tyler
>
> 
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> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:49 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
> Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
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> > On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from
> WE Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit
> switches can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put
> together the speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should
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RE: Want to put a motor my 1200

[bulkeley]

Don’t think buy you can never have enough legacy. Did you find a way of 
shipping to Australia?

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 4:32 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hi Bill

I agree two motors make it into a much better machine, When I had the Woodchuck 
it had the drive motor to the Leadscrew. Wish I had kept it .

Have thought of buying it back still thinking !! 

Richard

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 6:20:16 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:

And you need 2 motors one on the leadscrew and one on the spindle to make the 
legacy perfect.

Having a spindle motor as well gets better finishes on your work when turning .

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 > 
Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2020 1:17 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills  >
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

 

Hello Again.  This topic should stand on its own.

 

I feel a motor drive is a must for any Legacy owner. 
I originally did not by a motor drive for my machine, I felt it was to 
expensive and I did not need it.  I was WONG on both accounts.  Granted I DID 
not by form Legacy, I did make my own, the Motor makes the Legacy into a much 
better machine.

Here are some pix. of my motor.

As you can see I did not mount my motor as Legacy did, (on the end of the acme 
screw.) The main reason was this motor was almost free, and its size is to big 
to fit on my Legacy, So I modified it .  Its a 90 volt DC gear motor. 82-1 gear 
ratio. max. speed is something like 40 rpm. (which is was faster than I will 
ever use on my machine.)  The gear's and chain are from an Audi timing chain (I 
picked up second hand form my auto garage shop.) I made one limit switch. (not 
shown)  All the wire is Home Depot speaker wire. 

 

As you can see, there are more than one way to do almost anything. and you 
don't have to spend a lot of money to get the job done.

 

Talk to you more latter.

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, June 13, 2020, 10:48:34 AM EDT, Curt George  > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone  

Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own as a 
new topic.

 

 

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Hi Richard

I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
appreciated.

Thanks

Denson

 

 

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[Richard Ellis]

Hi Bill
I agree two motors make it into a much better machine, When I had the 
Woodchuck it had the drive motor to the Leadscrew. Wish I had kept it .
Have thought of buying it back still thinking !! 
Richard

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 6:20:16 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> And you need 2 motors one on the leadscrew and one on the spindle to make 
> the legacy perfect.
>
> Having a spindle motor as well gets better finishes on your work when 
> turning .
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
> *Sent:* Sunday, 14 June 2020 1:17 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>  
>
> Hello Again.  This topic should stand on its own.
>
>  
>
> I feel a motor drive is a must for any Legacy owner. 
> I originally did not by a motor drive for my machine, I felt it was to 
> expensive and I did not need it.  I was WONG on both accounts.  Granted I 
> DID not by form Legacy, I did make my own, the Motor makes the Legacy into 
> a much better machine.
>
> Here are some pix. of my motor.
>
> As you can see I did not mount my motor as Legacy did, (on the end of the 
> acme screw.) The main reason was this motor was almost free, and its size 
> is to big to fit on my Legacy, So I modified it .  Its a 90 volt DC gear 
> motor. 82-1 gear ratio. max. speed is something like 40 rpm. (which is was 
> faster than I will ever use on my machine.)  The gear's and chain are from 
> an Audi timing chain (I picked up second hand form my auto garage shop.) I 
> made one limit switch. (not shown)  All the wire is Home Depot speaker 
> wire. 
>
>  
>
> As you can see, there are more than one way to do almost anything. and you 
> don't have to spend a lot of money to get the job done.
>
>  
>
> Talk to you more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2020, 10:48:34 AM EDT, Curt George <
> curt@yahoo.com > wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone  
>
> Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own 
> as a new topic.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> From:
>
>  
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> Hi Richard
>
> I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
>  
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

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Thanks Joe I’ll check out Grainger

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> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

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> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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> If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
> Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
> can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the 
> speed control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available 
> from Grainger ... Joe B.
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

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If I remember correctly, the same motor Legacy used can be gotten from WE 
Grainger... the bracket you will have to make yourself... the limit switches 
can probably also be gotten from Grainger... and you can put together the speed 
control switch and override switch in a box, all should be available from 
Grainger ... Joe B.

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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

[JOHNNY L TYLER]

Thanks for the feedback Curt.  I'm one of those folks with limited interest AND 
ability in all things mechanical like you, so off-the-shelf is my world, I 
guess.  You have a gift that I'll never have!  I'll call Legacy and maybe Stacy 
or someone can provide the original drive motor supplier back in the day when 
Legacy was producing the 1200/2000.  Again, thanks for the great group feedback!

John


From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 8:17 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills
Subject: Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

Hello Again.  This topic should stand on its own.

I feel a motor drive is a must for any Legacy owner.
I originally did not by a motor drive for my machine, I felt it was to 
expensive and I did not need it.  I was WONG on both accounts.  Granted I DID 
not by form Legacy, I did make my own, the Motor makes the Legacy into a much 
better machine.
Here are some pix. of my motor.
As you can see I did not mount my motor as Legacy did, (on the end of the acme 
screw.) The main reason was this motor was almost free, and its size is to big 
to fit on my Legacy, So I modified it .  Its a 90 volt DC gear motor. 82-1 gear 
ratio. max. speed is something like 40 rpm. (which is was faster than I will 
ever use on my machine.)  The gear's and chain are from an Audi timing chain (I 
picked up second hand form my auto garage shop.) I made one limit switch. (not 
shown)  All the wire is Home Depot speaker wire.

As you can see, there are more than one way to do almost anything. and you 
don't have to spend a lot of money to get the job done.

Talk to you more latter.
C.A.G.

On Saturday, June 13, 2020, 10:48:34 AM EDT, Curt George 
 wrote:


Hello Everyone
Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own as a 
new topic.


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Hi Richard
I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
appreciated.
Thanks
Denson




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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

['Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Thanks Curt
Great info and pics 
Thank you

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> On Jun 13, 2020, at 10:17 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Again.  This topic should stand on its own.
> 
> I feel a motor drive is a must for any Legacy owner. 
> I originally did not by a motor drive for my machine, I felt it was to 
> expensive and I did not need it.  I was WONG on both accounts.  Granted I DID 
> not by form Legacy, I did make my own, the Motor makes the Legacy into a much 
> better machine.
> Here are some pix. of my motor.
> As you can see I did not mount my motor as Legacy did, (on the end of the 
> acme screw.) The main reason was this motor was almost free, and its size is 
> to big to fit on my Legacy, So I modified it .  Its a 90 volt DC gear motor. 
> 82-1 gear ratio. max. speed is something like 40 rpm. (which is was faster 
> than I will ever use on my machine.)  The gear's and chain are from an Audi 
> timing chain (I picked up second hand form my auto garage shop.) I made one 
> limit switch. (not shown)  All the wire is Home Depot speaker wire. 
> 
> As you can see, there are more than one way to do almost anything. and you 
> don't have to spend a lot of money to get the job done.
> 
> Talk to you more latter.
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Saturday, June 13, 2020, 10:48:34 AM EDT, Curt George 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone  
> Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own as a 
> new topic.
> 
> 
> From:
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> Fri, Jun 12 at 12:56 PM
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> Hi Richard
> I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
> appreciated.
> Thanks
> Denson
> 
> 
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Want to put a motor my 1200

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hello Everyone  Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand 
in its own as a new topic.

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 Jun 12 at 12:56 PMHi RichardI’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any 
info or help would be appreciated.ThanksDenson



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