Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on

it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over.

#7501

I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure.

But pretty sure.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:54 PM  wrote:

> Ok whats it number then?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 April 2021 12:35 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> No it has the Magnate stamp on it. and after looking it up on Norms list he
>
> printed off for my when I bought his mill and bit collection that is the
> only
>
> one that fits the category.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:27 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t think it’s a magnate bit I might be wrong. Looking at magnates
> site I don’t think they have the range of router bits they use too they
> still have all the legacy bits but other none legacy I think there is not
> as many
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:30 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on
>
> it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over.
>
> #7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure.
>
> But pretty sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?
>
> And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color
> background.
>
> That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.
>
>
>
> BTW - Have you made arrangements with
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
>
> Every 6 holes.
>
> Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:
>
> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
> index plate
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
> applications suggested.
>
> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
> to fit within
>
> my expectations or very close.
>
> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
> a dowel
>
> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>
> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
> did anyway.
>
> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
> to tha

RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

Ok whats it number then?

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 12:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

No it has the Magnate stamp on it. and after looking it up on Norms list he

printed off for my when I bought his mill and bit collection that is the only

one that fits the category. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:27 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t think it’s a magnate bit I might be wrong. Looking at magnates site I 
don’t think they have the range of router bits they use too they still have all 
the legacy bits but other none legacy I think there is not as many

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on 

it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over. 

#7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure. 

But pretty sure.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

?

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?  

And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color 
background. 

That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.

 

BTW - Have you made arrangements with 

 

Thanks.

Mac

 

-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table 

Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set. 

Every 6 holes. 

Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the 
indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index 
plate 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. 

I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit 
within

my expectations or very close. 

I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a 
dowel 

pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. 

Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did 
anyway.

Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to 
that.

it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or 
something and 

bring it to a point for my dead center. 

So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a 
tooling tech

I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be 
set to 

have great repeatability. 

I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle 
of the part.

keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. 

then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Yea I was trying that  or Michael Kratky had responded about that time too.
talk soon.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:28 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Try "CCM".
> Heading out to grocery store.
> Have a quiet evening & stay warm.
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Apr 14, 2021 10:17 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> I could not get that to pop up Was it from CC?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Sorry - did not finish the question at end of my last to you:
>>
>> "BTW - Have you made arrangements with..."
>>
>> I didn't finish it bc I went looking for his name on a comment he made;
>> never found it; and forgot to complete the question.
>>
>> What I was going to ask was "If you had made arrangements with (name I
>> could not find) who I believe lives in NY neat the CT or MA border."  He is
>> the guy that commented your rosette could hold its own against the items he
>> sees displayed in the nearby museum (I think that's the jist of his
>> complement to you re: your most recent rosette you shared here.)
>>
>> Mac
>> ------
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Apr 14, 2021 9:29 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>> I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on
>> it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over.
>> #7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure.
>> But pretty sure.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>> Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?
>>> And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color
>>> background.
>>> That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.
>>>
>>> BTW - Have you made arrangements with
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>>> Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>>
>>> Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
>>>
>>> Every 6 holes.
>>>
>>> Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
>>> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
>>> index plate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
>>> applications suggested.
>>>
>>> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
>>> to fit within
>>>
>>> my expectations or very close.
>>>
>>> I cut a new piece found the center, dril

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

No it has the Magnate stamp on it. and after looking it up on Norms list he
printed off for my when I bought his mill and bit collection that is the
only
one that fits the category.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:27 PM  wrote:

> I don’t think it’s a magnate bit I might be wrong. Looking at magnates
> site I don’t think they have the range of router bits they use too they
> still have all the legacy bits but other none legacy I think there is not
> as many
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:30 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on
>
> it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over.
>
> #7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure.
>
> But pretty sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?
>
> And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color
> background.
>
> That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.
>
>
>
> BTW - Have you made arrangements with
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
>
> Every 6 holes.
>
> Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:
>
> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
> index plate
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
> applications suggested.
>
> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
> to fit within
>
> my expectations or very close.
>
> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
> a dowel
>
> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>
> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
> did anyway.
>
> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
> to that.
>
> it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or
> something and
>
> bring it to a point for my dead center.
>
> So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was
> a tooling tech
>
> I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I
> should be set to
>
> have great repeatability.
>
> I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the
> middle of the part.
>
> keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation.
>
> then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 a

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[M.W.Foscue]

Try "CCM".Heading out to grocery store.Have a quiet evening & stay warm.Mac-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Apr 14, 2021 10:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

I could not get that to pop up Was it from CC?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:55 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:Tim,Sorry - did not finish the question at end of my last to you:"BTW - Have you made arrangements with..."  I didn't finish it bc I went looking for his name on a comment he made; never found it; and forgot to complete the question.What I was going to ask was "If you had made arrangements with (name I could not find) who I believe lives in NY neat the CT or MA border."  He is the guy that commented your rosette could hold its own against the items he sees displayed in the nearby museum (I think that's the jist of his complement to you re: your most recent rosette you shared here.)Mac-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Apr 14, 2021 9:29 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over. #7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure. But pretty sure.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:Tim,Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?  And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color background. That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.BTW - Have you made arrangements with Thanks.Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set. Every 6 holes. Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index plate  BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit withinmy expectations or very close. I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a dowel pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did anyway.Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to that.it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or something and bring it to a point for my dead center. So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a tooling techI think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be set to have great repeatability. I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle of the part.keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no one but you will notice lol  BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerOn Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre BillFrom: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary 

RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

I don’t think it’s a magnate bit I might be wrong. Looking at magnates site I 
don’t think they have the range of router bits they use too they still have all 
the legacy bits but other none legacy I think there is not as many

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on 

it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over. 

#7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure. 

But pretty sure.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

?

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Tim,

Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?  

And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color 
background. 

That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.

 

BTW - Have you made arrangements with 

 

Thanks.

Mac

 

-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table 

Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set. 

Every 6 holes. 

Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the 
indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index 
plate 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. 

I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit 
within

my expectations or very close. 

I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a 
dowel 

pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. 

Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did 
anyway.

Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to 
that.

it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or 
something and 

bring it to a point for my dead center. 

So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a 
tooling tech

I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be 
set to 

have great repeatability. 

I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle 
of the part.

keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. 

then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the 
rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you 
want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no 
one but you will notice lol 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

I could not get that to pop up Was it from CC?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Sorry - did not finish the question at end of my last to you:
>
> "BTW - Have you made arrangements with..."
>
> I didn't finish it bc I went looking for his name on a comment he made;
> never found it; and forgot to complete the question.
>
> What I was going to ask was "If you had made arrangements with (name I
> could not find) who I believe lives in NY neat the CT or MA border."  He is
> the guy that commented your rosette could hold its own against the items he
> sees displayed in the nearby museum (I think that's the jist of his
> complement to you re: your most recent rosette you shared here.)
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Apr 14, 2021 9:29 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on
> it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over.
> #7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure.
> But pretty sure.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>> Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?
>> And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color
>> background.
>> That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.
>>
>> BTW - Have you made arrangements with
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Mac
>> ----------
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>> Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> ----------
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>>
>>
>> yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
>>
>> Every 6 holes.
>>
>> Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
>> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
>> index plate
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
>> applications suggested.
>>
>> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
>> to fit within
>>
>> my expectations or very close.
>>
>> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
>> a dowel
>>
>> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>>
>> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
>> did anyway.
>>
>> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
>> to that.
>>
>> it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or
>> something and
>>
>> bring it to a point for my dead center.
>>
>> So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I
>> was a tooling tech
>>
>> I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I
>> should be set to
>>
>> have great repeatability.
>>
>> I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the
>> middle of the part.
>>
>> keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation.
>>
>> then when all profiled I went aroun

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Oh I can sorta remember that yes I'd like to find the
post Mac. I'd like to reread that one.
So do you still mess with your machine any Mac?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Sorry - did not finish the question at end of my last to you:
>
> "BTW - Have you made arrangements with..."
>
> I didn't finish it bc I went looking for his name on a comment he made;
> never found it; and forgot to complete the question.
>
> What I was going to ask was "If you had made arrangements with (name I
> could not find) who I believe lives in NY neat the CT or MA border."  He is
> the guy that commented your rosette could hold its own against the items he
> sees displayed in the nearby museum (I think that's the jist of his
> complement to you re: your most recent rosette you shared here.)
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Apr 14, 2021 9:29 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on
> it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over.
> #7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure.
> But pretty sure.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>> Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?
>> And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color
>> background.
>> That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.
>>
>> BTW - Have you made arrangements with
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Mac
>> ----------
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>> Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> ----------
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>>
>>
>> yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
>>
>> Every 6 holes.
>>
>> Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
>> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
>> index plate
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
>> applications suggested.
>>
>> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
>> to fit within
>>
>> my expectations or very close.
>>
>> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
>> a dowel
>>
>> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>>
>> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
>> did anyway.
>>
>> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
>> to that.
>>
>> it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or
>> something and
>>
>> bring it to a point for my dead center.
>>
>> So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I
>> was a tooling tech
>>
>> I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I
>> should be set to
>>
>> have great repeatability.
>>
>> I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the
>> middle of the part.
>>
>> keep in mind on

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim,Sorry - did not finish the question at end of my last to you:"BTW - Have you made arrangements with..."  I didn't finish it bc I went looking for his name on a comment he made; never found it; and forgot to complete the question.What I was going to ask was "If you had made arrangements with (name I could not find) who I believe lives in NY neat the CT or MA border."  He is the guy that commented your rosette could hold its own against the items he sees displayed in the nearby museum (I think that's the jist of his complement to you re: your most recent rosette you shared here.)Mac-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Apr 14, 2021 9:29 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over. #7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure. But pretty sure.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:Tim,Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?  And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color background. That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.BTW - Have you made arrangements with Thanks.Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set. Every 6 holes. Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index plate  BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit withinmy expectations or very close. I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a dowel pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did anyway.Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to that.it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or something and bring it to a point for my dead center. So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a tooling techI think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be set to have great repeatability. I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle of the part.keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no one but you will notice lol  BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerOn Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre BillFrom: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table HI Tim I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you measurements from. C.A.G.On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

I can try and figure out the bit number. Bill was right on
it being a round over. I think its a 1 wide so be 1/2 round over.
#7501 I'd have to go out and measure it again to be sure.
But pretty sure.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

?

On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
> Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?
> And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color
> background.
> That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.
>
> BTW - Have you made arrangements with
>
> Thanks.
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
>
> Every 6 holes.
>
> Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:
>
> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
> index plate
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
> applications suggested.
>
> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
> to fit within
>
> my expectations or very close.
>
> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
> a dowel
>
> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>
> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
> did anyway.
>
> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
> to that.
>
> it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or
> something and
>
> bring it to a point for my dead center.
>
> So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was
> a tooling tech
>
> I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I
> should be set to
>
> have great repeatability.
>
> I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the
> middle of the part.
>
> keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation.
>
> then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium
> to the rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the
> middle if you want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or
> 15 thou out and no one but you will notice lol 
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM  wrote:
>
> Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' v

RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim,Can you provide us with the Magnate bit number?  And, if you don't mind, another pic of the bit on a white/light-color background. That way we can more clearly see the profile - especially the tip.BTW - Have you made arrangements with Thanks.Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Apr 12, 2021 10:33 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set. Every 6 holes. Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index plate  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit withinmy expectations or very close. I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a dowel pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did anyway.Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to that.it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or something and bring it to a point for my dead center. So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a tooling techI think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be set to have great repeatability. I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle of the part.keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no one but you will notice lol  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim ZieglerSent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell  On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre  Bill  From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table HI Tim I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you measurements from. C.A.G. On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:   Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,I have a question and I want some serious inputhere on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. careerI worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so withthat said I worked with 10/thousands and even tightertolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table andlining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have consideredboring a centering hole in my work piece but should nothave too. I also find the center of my work piece and centerthe bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering butsome how I am not always hitting the center. Yes I have a square work piece. What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD 

RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

Yes and it costs a fortune to own all the router bits needed for the legacy 
when I replaced all mine after the fire it cost me over $6000 thank god it was 
insurance money or it would have been impossible for me.

The first time it took many years to buy all I wanted for it.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2021 1:17 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Perfect I have a hard time keeping track of them Bill.. I keep calling the 
other a Barley twist bit. 

so no confusion here lol. 

I just put in a request to Magnate too about additional bits. I have a lot of 
them but some important

ones I seem to be missing. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 9:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set. 

Every 6 holes. 

Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the 
indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index 
plate 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. 

I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit 
within

my expectations or very close. 

I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a 
dowel 

pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. 

Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did 
anyway.

Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to 
that.

it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or 
something and 

bring it to a point for my dead center. 

So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a 
tooling tech

I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be 
set to 

have great repeatability. 

I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle 
of the part.

keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. 

then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the 
rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you 
want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no 
one but you will notice lol 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subj

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Perfect I have a hard time keeping track of them Bill.. I keep calling the
other a Barley twist bit.
so no confusion here lol.
I just put in a request to Magnate too about additional bits. I have a lot
of them but some important
ones I seem to be missing.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 9:33 AM  wrote:

> Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
>
> Every 6 holes.
>
> Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:
>
> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
> index plate
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
> applications suggested.
>
> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
> to fit within
>
> my expectations or very close.
>
> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
> a dowel
>
> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>
> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
> did anyway.
>
> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
> to that.
>
> it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or
> something and
>
> bring it to a point for my dead center.
>
> So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was
> a tooling tech
>
> I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I
> should be set to
>
> have great repeatability.
>
> I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the
> middle of the part.
>
> keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation.
>
> then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium
> to the rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the
> middle if you want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or
> 15 thou out and no one but you will notice lol 
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM  wrote:
>
> Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> HI Tim
>
>
>
> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
> the table and the router, 

RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

Ok I see now and it looks like a round over bit to me see the pic

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 8:51 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set. 

Every 6 holes. 

Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the 
indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a index 
plate 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the applications suggested. 

I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it to fit 
within

my expectations or very close. 

I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using a 
dowel 

pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table. 

Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but did 
anyway.

Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit to 
that.

it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or 
something and 

bring it to a point for my dead center. 

So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was a 
tooling tech

I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I should be 
set to 

have great repeatability. 

I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the middle 
of the part.

keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation. 

then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the 
rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you 
want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no 
one but you will notice lol 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

HI Tim

 

I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  
Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and 
the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this 
table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you 
measurements from.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work pie

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Yup your right it is a pointed round over. I'm still learning the Magnate
router bit names. Sorry for doubting your knowledge Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:

> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
> index plate
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
> applications suggested.
>
> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
> to fit within
>
> my expectations or very close.
>
> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
> a dowel
>
> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>
> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
> did anyway.
>
> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
> to that.
>
> it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or
> something and
>
> bring it to a point for my dead center.
>
> So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was
> a tooling tech
>
> I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I
> should be set to
>
> have great repeatability.
>
> I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the
> middle of the part.
>
> keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation.
>
> then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium
> to the rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the
> middle if you want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or
> 15 thou out and no one but you will notice lol 
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM  wrote:
>
> Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> HI Tim
>
>
>
> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
> point, to take you measurements from.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>
> I have a question and I want some serious input
>
> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>
> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>
> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>
> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>
> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>
> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>
> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>
> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>
> have too

Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

yea actually i did use the indexing plate from standard gear set.
Every 6 holes.
Is that the round over or the rope moulding bit?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 10:53 PM  wrote:

> Great job tim yes I saw looks like a 1 inch round over bit what was the
> indexing ¼ turn of the handle ? it doesn’t look like it was done with a
> index plate
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 12:44 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok so I had a huge achievement by using some of the
> applications suggested.
>
> I am still not perfect but I think a couple more tweeks and I can get it
> to fit within
>
> my expectations or very close.
>
> I cut a new piece found the center, drilled a 1/4 hole part way in. using
> a dowel
>
> pin and double back tape I just attached it to the table.
>
> Also recentered my table with rails which should not really affect it but
> did anyway.
>
> Then I drew cross marks on the face same as the back and centered the bit
> to that.
>
> it got very close but will make a center point with a 1/2 drill bit or
> something and
>
> bring it to a point for my dead center.
>
> So I believe with all the suggestions and me going out thinking like I was
> a tooling tech
>
> I think I have reached or will have once I make the centering pin, I
> should be set to
>
> have great repeatability.
>
> I will add some of the pix. Bill one for you with the bit laying in the
> middle of the part.
>
> keep in mind only cedar again and little wood framentation.
>
> then when all profiled I went around it with a straight bit.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:22 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium
> to the rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the
> middle if you want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or
> 15 thou out and no one but you will notice lol 
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM  wrote:
>
> Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> HI Tim
>
>
>
> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
> point, to take you measurements from.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>
> I have a question and I want some serious input
>
> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>
> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>
> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>
> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>
> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>
> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>
> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>
> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>
> have too

RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

I don’t centre it I mill it centre even double tape a piece of aluminium to the 
rotary table to scratch with the pointer as it goes around the middle if you 
want to be really fussy finding centre but you can be 10 or 15 thou out and no 
one but you will notice lol 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

HI Tim

 

I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  
Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and 
the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this 
table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you 
measurements from.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

I use to machine metal back in the day with 1 ten thousands of an inch 
tolerance at times that’s one thousandth divided into 10 so I know your pain

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 12 April 2021 7:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Thanks Bill,

 

Yes perfection is my middle name and causes a lot 

of un-needed frustration sometimes. thanks I will have 

to test your method. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:28 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I put an oversize piece on the table set as close to centre as I can and then 
mill it square, mill down one side and rotate 90 degrees and repeat on the 
other sides and your piece is perfectly square to the middle and ready to mill 
the rosette.

If you have multiple ones to do after its square trace a line around the 
outside and set the router bit to it move a saddle back stick the next oversize 
one on and repeat milling it square. To find the dead middle I have a half inch 
pointed centre I put in the router to line up dead center in the middle then 
set stops. Hope that helps you all this is if you want it perfect.

 

Bill

 

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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:14 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

yup but centering the block is the big issue i believe.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:33 AM  wrote:

> Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> HI Tim
>
>
>
> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
> point, to take you measurements from.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>
> I have a question and I want some serious input
>
> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>
> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>
> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>
> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>
> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>
> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>
> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>
> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>
> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>
> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>
> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>
> Yes I have a square work piece.
>
> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>
> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>
> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>
> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>
> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>
> and miss.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill,

Yes perfection is my middle name and causes a lot
of un-needed frustration sometimes. thanks I will have
to test your method.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:28 AM  wrote:

> I put an oversize piece on the table set as close to centre as I can and
> then mill it square, mill down one side and rotate 90 degrees and repeat on
> the other sides and your piece is perfectly square to the middle and ready
> to mill the rosette.
>
> If you have multiple ones to do after its square trace a line around the
> outside and set the router bit to it move a saddle back stick the next
> oversize one on and repeat milling it square. To find the dead middle I
> have a half inch pointed centre I put in the router to line up dead center
> in the middle then set stops. Hope that helps you all this is if you want
> it perfect.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> timjz...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:14 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
>
>
> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>
> I have a question and I want some serious input
>
> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>
> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>
> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>
> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>
> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>
> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>
> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>
> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>
> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>
> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>
> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>
> Yes I have a square work piece.
>
> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>
> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>
> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>
> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>
> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>
> and miss.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Richard,

I will have to do some experimenting and try that.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:54 AM Richard Ellis 
wrote:

> What I did, was to drill a hole dead center of the table and have a rod
> about 8 inches long with a point at one end and a knob at the other end.The
> rod a nice tight fit.  and also to make
>  sure it did not slip I glued a rare earth magnet under the table. That
> just touched the rod
> The bit of wood had a small indent underneath . Now when I used hot melt
> glue,the rod protruding above the table I did not have to worry about where
> the wood will slide to. The resistance of the magnet will keep it in place
>
> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:46:55 AM UTC+1 Va Oak wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>> I think what Curtis is pointing out is:
>> You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't
>> have that point *perfectly* in line with the center line of the LOM,
>> when you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will
>> make itself known to you quickly.
>> Be Safe & do Good!
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>>
>> Thanks Curt,
>>
>> Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is
>> the challenge.
>> I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center
>> so I thought. h.
>> better sleep on it. lol its getting late here.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> --
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills  wrote:
>>
>>> HI Tim
>>>
>>> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
>>> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
>>> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
>>> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
>>> point, to take you measurements from.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>> --
>>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>>> I have a question and I want some serious input
>>> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>>> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>>> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>>> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>>> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>>> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>>> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>>> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>>> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>>> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>>> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>>> Yes I have a square work piece.
>>> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>>> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>>> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>>> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>>> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>>> and miss.
>>> Thanks
>>>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Mac,
Yup. and thats what I'm trying to come up with a solution to hit dead
center with out
all the fiddling around?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

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On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:46 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
> I think what Curtis is pointing out is:
> You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't
> have that point *perfectly* in line with the center line of the LOM, when
> you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will make
> itself known to you quickly.
> Be Safe & do Good!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table
>
> Thanks Curt,
>
> Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is
> the challenge.
> I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center
> so I thought. h.
> better sleep on it. lol its getting late here.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
>> HI Tim
>>
>> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
>> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
>> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
>> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
>> point, to take you measurements from.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> --
>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>> I have a question and I want some serious input
>> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
>> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>> some how I am not always hitting the center.
>> Yes I have a square work piece.
>> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
>> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
>> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
>> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>> and miss.
>> Thanks
>>
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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

Rotating the table with a pointer in the router you will soon find centre 

 

Bill

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:30 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

HI Tim

 

I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  
Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and 
the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this 
table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you 
measurements from.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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RE: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[bulkeley]

I put an oversize piece on the table set as close to centre as I can and then 
mill it square, mill down one side and rotate 90 degrees and repeat on the 
other sides and your piece is perfectly square to the middle and ready to mill 
the rosette.

If you have multiple ones to do after its square trace a line around the 
outside and set the router bit to it move a saddle back stick the next oversize 
one on and repeat milling it square. To find the dead middle I have a half inch 
pointed centre I put in the router to line up dead center in the middle then 
set stops. Hope that helps you all this is if you want it perfect.

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of timjz...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 11 April 2021 1:14 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

 

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,

I have a question and I want some serious input

here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career

I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with

that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter

tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.

Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and

lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 

Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered

boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not

have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center

the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but

some how I am not always hitting the center. 

Yes I have a square work piece. 

What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 

Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?

Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 

with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 

Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit

and miss. 

Thanks

 

 

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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Richard Ellis]

What I did, was to drill a hole dead center of the table and have a rod 
about 8 inches long with a point at one end and a knob at the other end.The 
rod a nice tight fit.  and also to make 
 sure it did not slip I glued a rare earth magnet under the table. That 
just touched the rod
The bit of wood had a small indent underneath . Now when I used hot melt 
glue,the rod protruding above the table I did not have to worry about where 
the wood will slide to. The resistance of the magnet will keep it in place 

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:46:55 AM UTC+1 Va Oak wrote:

> Tim,
> I think what Curtis is pointing out is:
> You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't 
> have that point *perfectly* in line with the center line of the LOM, when 
> you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will make 
> itself known to you quickly.
> Be Safe & do Good!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Tim Ziegler 
> Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table 
>
> Thanks Curt,
>
> Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is 
> the challenge. 
> I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center 
> so I thought. h. 
> better sleep on it. lol its getting late here. 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>
>> HI Tim
>>
>> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" 
>> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align 
>> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference 
>> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know 
>> point, to take you measurements from.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> --
>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>> I have a question and I want some serious input
>> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 
>> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>> some how I am not always hitting the center. 
>> Yes I have a square work piece. 
>> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 
>> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 
>> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 
>> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>> and miss. 
>> Thanks
>>
>

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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim,I think what Curtis is pointing out is:You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't have that point perfectly in line with the center line of the LOM, when you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will make itself known to you quickly.Be Safe & do Good!Mac-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

Thanks Curt,Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is the challenge. I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center so I thought. h. better sleep on it. lol its getting late here. Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerOn Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
HI TimI have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you measurements from.C.A.G.





On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:



Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,I have a question and I want some serious inputhere on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. careerI worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so withthat said I worked with 10/thousands and even tightertolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table andlining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have consideredboring a centering hole in my work piece but should nothave too. I also find the center of my work piece and centerthe bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering butsome how I am not always hitting the center. Yes I have a square work piece. What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hitand miss. Thanks



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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt,

Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is
the challenge.
I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center
so I thought. h.
better sleep on it. lol its getting late here.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> HI Tim
>
> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole"
> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align
> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference
> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know
> point, to take you measurements from.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
> I have a question and I want some serious input
> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines
> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
> some how I am not always hitting the center.
> Yes I have a square work piece.
> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center.
> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it
> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something.
> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
> and miss.
> Thanks
>
>
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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 HI Tim
I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" idea.  
Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align the table and 
the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference point, Once this 
table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know point, to take you 
measurements from.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,I have a question and I want 
some serious inputhere on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. careerI worked in 
the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so withthat said I worked with 10/thousands 
and even tightertolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.Ok so 
my point is even with cross marks on my table andlining up a perfectly square 
piece with corners to lines Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have 
consideredboring a centering hole in my work piece but should nothave too. I 
also find the center of my work piece and centerthe bit. So my point is I have 
a lot of skill centering butsome how I am not always hitting the center. Yes I 
have a square work piece. What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD 
center. Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?Usually you don't 
realize your out of center until you go around it with a bit especially if you 
are doing a sunburst or something. Lets dig up some good suggestions I need 
repeatability not hitand miss. Thanks



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finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

[timjz...@gmail.com]

Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
I have a question and I want some serious input
here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 
Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
some how I am not always hitting the center. 
Yes I have a square work piece. 
What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 
Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 
with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 
Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
and miss. 
Thanks


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