Re: moulding bed with fence.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curtis. No I'm going to make another set up for that I think. Going
to be times I'm going to want material to slide through too. So some of the
clamps that were suggested to me think I'm going to get as well as some
other ideas floating around in my head. Yes I just need to slow down and
spend time on it. Kind regards Tim of ZWW


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 11:11 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Tim
> Very nice!  Do you have rubber or sand paper on the ends to make a better
> contact point?
>
> Im starting to get a little green with envy, on your LOM.  (its a far cry
> form the OLD WC, you started with.)  ;-)
>
> Keep up with the good work.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, July 15, 2019, 08:11:29 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Right here Bill,
>
> Did you see what I was working on?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
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> From: *Tim Ziegler* 
> Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:12 PM
> Subject: moulding bed with fence.
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>
>
> OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on the
> Legacy and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming and
> come up with this so far.
> Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not
> perfected but the concept is coming together.
> Holding things tight and down are a bit of a problem so has anyone mounted
> feather boards on the Carriage to hold the part down? I don't want to use
> double stick tape either as I am a production shop so I am always looking
> for efficiencies.
> That's my next move. Stay tuned.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
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RE: moulding bed with fence.

[bulkeley]

Ah yes now I remember seeing this, nice 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2019 10:11 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: moulding bed with fence.

 

Right here Bill,

 

Did you see what I was working on?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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From: Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> >
Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:12 PM
Subject: moulding bed with fence.
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >

 

OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on the Legacy 
and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming and come up with 
this so far. 

Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not perfected but 
the concept is coming together. 

Holding things tight and down are a bit of a problem so has anyone mounted 
feather boards on the Carriage to hold the part down? I don't want to use 
double stick tape either as I am a production shop so I am always looking for 
efficiencies. 

That's my next move. Stay tuned.  


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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Re: moulding bed with fence.

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello TimVery nice!  Do you have rubber or sand paper on the ends to make a 
better contact point?
Im starting to get a little green with envy, on your LOM.  (its a far cry form 
the OLD WC, you started with.)  ;-)
Keep up with the good work.
C.A.G.On Monday, July 15, 2019, 08:11:29 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Right here Bill,
Did you see what I was working on?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

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From: Tim Ziegler 
Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:12 PM
Subject: moulding bed with fence.
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 


OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on the Legacy 
and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming and come up with 
this so far. Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not 
perfected but the concept is coming together. Holding things tight and down are 
a bit of a problem so has anyone mounted feather boards on the Carriage to hold 
the part down? I don't want to use double stick tape either as I am a 
production shop so I am always looking for efficiencies. That's my next move. 
Stay tuned.  
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

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RE: moulding bed with fence.

[Tim]

There are so many versions you can make out of sacrificial materials.  Those 
Legacy clamps are very nice, I have a set and they are close to comparable to 
metal working clamps.  When I mentioned clamps I was suggesting more along the 
lines of https://www.destaco.com/clamps.html .  Look around, there are many 
copies available from retail stores and ebay.  

In the past I’ve shown examples of low profile clamps, try to do a search in 
the group for “low profile clamps”  It should yeald something.  Also Harold 
Hall has many examples of low profile clamps.  Think of using commercial pvc 
plate as a suitable material instead of steal.  Even corian is easy to work 
with and with a little psa sandpaper strips on the contacting surfice will give 
you a death grip on wood.  

This is such a huge long winded topic!

From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: moulding bed with fence.

Here is what I found Mac. like all Legacy stuff a bit expensive but looks like 
they'd work great. 


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:48 AM MWF  wrote:
Hi Tim,
Check Legacy's website.  A year or so ago they released a clamp they devised 
that may meet all your desired criteria.
Mac



-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Jul 13, 2019 6:49 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: moulding bed with fence. 
Thanks Tim,
Yes not a big fan of Tape. Has to be quick and secure.
I think the low profile clamps or wedges sound good. I'm going to test some 
wedging today and look on line
for some good clamps as well.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:29 PM Tim Krause  wrote:
In production, I would use low profile lamps (manual) or air cylinders or a 
vacuum table or wedges, anything but double sided tape.  Never trust small 
items to double sided tape.
Tim
On Jul 12, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on the Legacy 
and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming and come up with 
this so far. 
Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not perfected but 
the concept is coming together. 
Holding things tight and down are a bit of a problem so has anyone mounted 
feather boards on the Carriage to hold the part down? I don't want to use 
double stick tape either as I am a production shop so I am always looking for 
efficiencies. 
That's my next move. Stay tuned.  

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell

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Re: moulding bed with fence.

[Tim Ziegler]

Here is what I found Mac. like all Legacy stuff a bit expensive but looks
like they'd work great.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:48 AM MWF  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> Check Legacy's website.  A year or so ago they released a clamp they
> devised that may meet all your desired criteria.
> Mac
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Jul 13, 2019 6:49 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: moulding bed with fence.
>
> Thanks Tim,
> Yes not a big fan of Tape. Has to be quick and secure.
> I think the low profile clamps or wedges sound good. I'm going to test
> some wedging today and look on line
> for some good clamps as well.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:29 PM Tim Krause 
> wrote:
>
>> In production, I would use low profile lamps (manual) or air cylinders or
>> a vacuum table or wedges, anything but double sided tape.  Never trust
>> small items to double sided tape.
>>
>> Tim
>> On Jul 12, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on the
>>> Legacy and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming and
>>> come up with this so far.
>>> Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not
>>> perfected but the concept is coming together.
>>> Holding things tight and down are a bit of a problem so has anyone
>>> mounted feather boards on the Carriage to hold the part down? I don't want
>>> to use double stick tape either as I am a production shop so I am always
>>> looking for efficiencies.
>>> That's my next move. Stay tuned.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>
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Re: moulding bed with fence.

[MWF]

Hi Tim,Check Legacy's website.  A year or so ago they released a clamp they devised that may meet all your desired criteria.Mac-Original Message-
From: Tim Ziegler 
Sent: Jul 13, 2019 6:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: moulding bed with fence.

Thanks Tim,Yes not a big fan of Tape. Has to be quick and secure.I think the low profile clamps or wedges sound good. I'm going to test some wedging today and look on linefor some good clamps as well.Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:29 PM Tim Krause <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:In production, I would use low profile lamps (manual) or air cylinders or a vacuum table or wedges, anything but double sided tape.  Never trust small items to double sided tape.
Tim
On Jul 12, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on the Legacy and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming and come up with this so far. Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not perfected but the concept is coming together. Holding things tight and down are a bit of a problem so has anyone mounted feather boards on the Carriage to hold the part down? I don't want to use double stick tape either as I am a production shop so I am always looking for efficiencies. That's my next move. Stay tuned.  Kind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell



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RE: moulding bed with fence.

[Tim]

I’ve also used screws when I need the most positive quick method. Just make 
your stock a little longer for the screws and keep them away from the router 
bits!


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Re: moulding bed with fence.

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Tim,
Yes not a big fan of Tape. Has to be quick and secure.
I think the low profile clamps or wedges sound good. I'm going to test some
wedging today and look on line
for some good clamps as well.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:29 PM Tim Krause  wrote:

> In production, I would use low profile lamps (manual) or air cylinders or
> a vacuum table or wedges, anything but double sided tape.  Never trust
> small items to double sided tape.
>
> Tim
> On Jul 12, 2019, at 8:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on the
>> Legacy and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming and
>> come up with this so far.
>> Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not
>> perfected but the concept is coming together.
>> Holding things tight and down are a bit of a problem so has anyone
>> mounted feather boards on the Carriage to hold the part down? I don't want
>> to use double stick tape either as I am a production shop so I am always
>> looking for efficiencies.
>> That's my next move. Stay tuned.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
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Re: moulding bed with fence.

[Tim Krause]

In production, I would use low profile lamps (manual) or air cylinders or a 
vacuum table or wedges, anything but double sided tape.  Never trust small 
items to double sided tape.

Tim

On Jul 12, 2019, 8:12 PM, at 8:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>OK so a few days back I posted about running with a bed and fence on
>the 
>Legacy and have not found anything on it. So I started brain storming
>and 
>come up with this so far. 
>Has anyone done this or have any feed back? This is certainly not
>perfected 
>but the concept is coming together. 
>Holding things tight and down are a bit of a problem so has anyone
>mounted 
>feather boards on the Carriage to hold the part down? I don't want to
>use 
>double stick tape either as I am a production shop so I am always
>looking 
>for efficiencies. 
>That's my next move. Stay tuned.  
>Kind Regards,
>
>Timothy J. Ziegler
>Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>14171 160th Ave.
>Foreston MN 56330
>
>320-294-5798 shop
>320-630-2243 cell
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