subject:"spindle motor"

Excellent Bill,
those who did not watch Bill's short video on this subject should really
take the time
to watch it as pictures and videos are worth a thousand words.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:09 PM  wrote:

> Yes, what we are doing is replacing the 2 crank handles of the legacy with
> motors
>
> I did my fair share of hand cranking with the legacy you have total
> control but your arm gets so tired
>
> doing it  motors and limit switches is defiantly a vast improvement.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 April 2022 11:48 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> For sure Bill thanks for bringing in that important piece of information.
>
> Yes, running the spindle on a separate spindle motor disconnected from
> everything else, and still allowing the feed screw to
>
> run only the router carriage at the same time is an excellent concept.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 6:07 PM  wrote:
>
> I recommend running 2 motors at once it’s great for turning removing
> material just remember to have the feed gears disconnected we all do it.
> that’s why we all put spindle motors on our mills, now I know you know this
> Tim this is for any newbees reading so it doesn’t put them off installing
> that second motor.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 April 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Yup for sure.
>
> Sure would hope no one would try running both motors at the same time. lol
>
> Lot's of info
>
> Thanks Bill.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:20 PM  wrote:
>
> Ok
>
> How long is a piece of string lol each gear including the .25 gear is
> variable speed from 0 to 91 rpm
>
> In the case of the .25 gear
>
> It’s the talk or power that’s the problem because its not a legacy
> controller to run the motor really slow
>
> Takes more power because of the crappy variable controller so it starts
> turning at a faster speed than I would like.
>
> So the 2x gear runs it quite slow when it starts making it good for large
> dia work and the highest rpm would also be fine with that gear for turning
> so 12 inch dia stuff I would use the 2X gear.
>
> But for 1 inch dia stuff I would be using the .25 gear to get the same
> surface or circumference speed
>
> I hope I’m making sense here I know what I mean but I’m not that well at
> explaining.
>
>
>
> Now to get even more confusing for you all doing it from another way using
> the leadscrew motor and gear sets instead,  the slowest pitch is ½ inch (thats
> ½ inch saddle travel for every 360 degree turn of the work)  too big for
> a nice finish using a corbox bit even a planning bit when turning
>
> But …with the fine pitch gears I invented I can get that pitch down to
> 1/16 which is great for a good finish
>
> But… it is a big strain on the gears and motor powering it from the
> leadscrew motor to get that so powering it from the spindle motor instead
> the strain is way less for the gears and motor which is why I wanted so
> many speed options for the spindle motor.
>
> But for most people 2 motors running at the same time is better and easyer
> the work turning quicker with the spindle motor and the feed going nice and
> slow with the leadscrew motor produces finishes so smooth you don’t need to
> sand the work. But most important you must I repeat must have the index
> gear disconnected from the rest of the gears to mill with 2 motors running
> or major damage to your mill will happen. Now that I have totally confused
> everyone I will go now lol😊
>
> Remember Tim you asked 😊😊😊
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Mon

RE: gear for my spindle motor

Yes, what we are doing is replacing the 2 crank handles of the legacy with 
motors 

I did my fair share of hand cranking with the legacy you have total control but 
your arm gets so tired 

doing it  motors and limit switches is defiantly a vast improvement.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2022 11:48 AM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

For sure Bill thanks for bringing in that important piece of information. 

Yes, running the spindle on a separate spindle motor disconnected from 
everything else, and still allowing the feed screw to 

run only the router carriage at the same time is an excellent concept. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 6:07 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I recommend running 2 motors at once it’s great for turning removing material 
just remember to have the feed gears disconnected we all do it. that’s why we 
all put spindle motors on our mills, now I know you know this Tim this is for 
any newbees reading so it doesn’t put them off installing that second motor.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2022 8:55 AM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Yup for sure. 

Sure would hope no one would try running both motors at the same time. lol

Lot's of info 

Thanks Bill.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:20 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok 

How long is a piece of string lol each gear including the .25 gear is variable 
speed from 0 to 91 rpm

In the case of the .25 gear

It’s the talk or power that’s the problem because its not a legacy controller 
to run the motor really slow 

Takes more power because of the crappy variable controller so it starts turning 
at a faster speed than I would like.

So the 2x gear runs it quite slow when it starts making it good for large dia 
work and the highest rpm would also be fine with that gear for turning so 12 
inch dia stuff I would use the 2X gear.

But for 1 inch dia stuff I would be using the .25 gear to get the same surface 
or circumference speed

I hope I’m making sense here I know what I mean but I’m not that well at 
explaining.

 

Now to get even more confusing for you all doing it from another way using the 
leadscrew motor and gear sets instead,  the slowest pitch is ½ inch (thats ½ 
inch saddle travel for every 360 degree turn of the work)  too big for a nice 
finish using a corbox bit even a planning bit when turning

But …with the fine pitch gears I invented I can get that pitch down to 1/16 
which is great for a good finish 

But… it is a big strain on the gears and motor powering it from the leadscrew 
motor to get that so powering it from the spindle motor instead the strain is 
way less for the gears and motor which is why I wanted so many speed options 
for the spindle motor.

But for most people 2 motors running at the same time is better and easyer the 
work turning quicker with the spindle motor and the feed going nice and slow 
with the leadscrew motor produces finishes so smooth you don’t need to sand the 
work. But most important you must I repeat must have the index gear 
disconnected from the rest of the gears to mill with 2 motors running or major 
damage to your mill will happen. Now that I have totally confused everyone I 
will go now lol😊

Remember Tim you asked 😊😊😊

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2022 8:50 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Hey Bill,

 

Thanks for taking the time to do that. 

that is a nice wide range for sure. A person should be able to get 

some decent sanding at that higher RPM. Not like on a lathe but still extreme 
improvement from 

original I'd say. 

Do you know what the RPM's are for the .25 gear set as it would normally be ran?

Thanks again for doing this, interesting stuff.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:58 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle motor 
you saw how

Re: gear for my spindle motor

For sure Bill thanks for bringing in that important piece of information.
Yes, running the spindle on a separate spindle motor disconnected from
everything else, and still allowing the feed screw to
run only the router carriage at the same time is an excellent concept.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 6:07 PM  wrote:

> I recommend running 2 motors at once it’s great for turning removing
> material just remember to have the feed gears disconnected we all do it.
> that’s why we all put spindle motors on our mills, now I know you know this
> Tim this is for any newbees reading so it doesn’t put them off installing
> that second motor.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 April 2022 8:55 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Yup for sure.
>
> Sure would hope no one would try running both motors at the same time. lol
>
> Lot's of info
>
> Thanks Bill.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:20 PM  wrote:
>
> Ok
>
> How long is a piece of string lol each gear including the .25 gear is
> variable speed from 0 to 91 rpm
>
> In the case of the .25 gear
>
> It’s the talk or power that’s the problem because its not a legacy
> controller to run the motor really slow
>
> Takes more power because of the crappy variable controller so it starts
> turning at a faster speed than I would like.
>
> So the 2x gear runs it quite slow when it starts making it good for large
> dia work and the highest rpm would also be fine with that gear for turning
> so 12 inch dia stuff I would use the 2X gear.
>
> But for 1 inch dia stuff I would be using the .25 gear to get the same
> surface or circumference speed
>
> I hope I’m making sense here I know what I mean but I’m not that well at
> explaining.
>
>
>
> Now to get even more confusing for you all doing it from another way using
> the leadscrew motor and gear sets instead,  the slowest pitch is ½ inch (thats
> ½ inch saddle travel for every 360 degree turn of the work)  too big for
> a nice finish using a corbox bit even a planning bit when turning
>
> But …with the fine pitch gears I invented I can get that pitch down to
> 1/16 which is great for a good finish
>
> But… it is a big strain on the gears and motor powering it from the
> leadscrew motor to get that so powering it from the spindle motor instead
> the strain is way less for the gears and motor which is why I wanted so
> many speed options for the spindle motor.
>
> But for most people 2 motors running at the same time is better and easyer
> the work turning quicker with the spindle motor and the feed going nice and
> slow with the leadscrew motor produces finishes so smooth you don’t need to
> sand the work. But most important you must I repeat must have the index
> gear disconnected from the rest of the gears to mill with 2 motors running
> or major damage to your mill will happen. Now that I have totally confused
> everyone I will go now lol😊
>
> Remember Tim you asked 😊😊😊
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 April 2022 8:50 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> Thanks for taking the time to do that.
>
> that is a nice wide range for sure. A person should be able to get
>
> some decent sanding at that higher RPM. Not like on a lathe but still
> extreme improvement from
>
> original I'd say.
>
> Do you know what the RPM's are for the .25 gear set as it would normally
> be ran?
>
> Thanks again for doing this, interesting stuff.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:58 AM  wrote:
>
> Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle
> motor you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full
> speeds are,
>
>
>
> 91 RPM with the .25 index gear
>
&g

RE: gear for my spindle motor

I recommend running 2 motors at once it’s great for turning removing material 
just remember to have the feed gears disconnected we all do it. that’s why we 
all put spindle motors on our mills, now I know you know this Tim this is for 
any newbees reading so it doesn’t put them off installing that second motor.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2022 8:55 AM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Yup for sure. 

Sure would hope no one would try running both motors at the same time. lol

Lot's of info 

Thanks Bill.


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:20 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok 

How long is a piece of string lol each gear including the .25 gear is variable 
speed from 0 to 91 rpm

In the case of the .25 gear

It’s the talk or power that’s the problem because its not a legacy controller 
to run the motor really slow 

Takes more power because of the crappy variable controller so it starts turning 
at a faster speed than I would like.

So the 2x gear runs it quite slow when it starts making it good for large dia 
work and the highest rpm would also be fine with that gear for turning so 12 
inch dia stuff I would use the 2X gear.

But for 1 inch dia stuff I would be using the .25 gear to get the same surface 
or circumference speed

I hope I’m making sense here I know what I mean but I’m not that well at 
explaining.

 

Now to get even more confusing for you all doing it from another way using the 
leadscrew motor and gear sets instead,  the slowest pitch is ½ inch (thats ½ 
inch saddle travel for every 360 degree turn of the work)  too big for a nice 
finish using a corbox bit even a planning bit when turning

But …with the fine pitch gears I invented I can get that pitch down to 1/16 
which is great for a good finish 

But… it is a big strain on the gears and motor powering it from the leadscrew 
motor to get that so powering it from the spindle motor instead the strain is 
way less for the gears and motor which is why I wanted so many speed options 
for the spindle motor.

But for most people 2 motors running at the same time is better and easyer the 
work turning quicker with the spindle motor and the feed going nice and slow 
with the leadscrew motor produces finishes so smooth you don’t need to sand the 
work. But most important you must I repeat must have the index gear 
disconnected from the rest of the gears to mill with 2 motors running or major 
damage to your mill will happen. Now that I have totally confused everyone I 
will go now lol😊

Remember Tim you asked 😊😊😊

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2022 8:50 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Hey Bill,

 

Thanks for taking the time to do that. 

that is a nice wide range for sure. A person should be able to get 

some decent sanding at that higher RPM. Not like on a lathe but still extreme 
improvement from 

original I'd say. 

Do you know what the RPM's are for the .25 gear set as it would normally be ran?

Thanks again for doing this, interesting stuff.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:58 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle motor 
you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full speeds are, 

 

91 RPM with the .25 index gear

 

And 147 RPM with my little gear I made

 

that is the exact speeds as I measured them. I have a laser 

Tool that records RPMs

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 9:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: gear for my spindle motor

 

Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow. But 
with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a nice finish 
so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes could be milled 
like the cnc guys do.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Z

Re: gear for my spindle motor

Yup for sure.
Sure would hope no one would try running both motors at the same time. lol
Lot's of info
Thanks Bill.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:20 PM  wrote:

> Ok
>
> How long is a piece of string lol each gear including the .25 gear is
> variable speed from 0 to 91 rpm
>
> In the case of the .25 gear
>
> It’s the talk or power that’s the problem because its not a legacy
> controller to run the motor really slow
>
> Takes more power because of the crappy variable controller so it starts
> turning at a faster speed than I would like.
>
> So the 2x gear runs it quite slow when it starts making it good for large
> dia work and the highest rpm would also be fine with that gear for turning
> so 12 inch dia stuff I would use the 2X gear.
>
> But for 1 inch dia stuff I would be using the .25 gear to get the same
> surface or circumference speed
>
> I hope I’m making sense here I know what I mean but I’m not that well at
> explaining.
>
>
>
> Now to get even more confusing for you all doing it from another way using
> the leadscrew motor and gear sets instead,  the slowest pitch is ½ inch (thats
> ½ inch saddle travel for every 360 degree turn of the work)  too big for
> a nice finish using a corbox bit even a planning bit when turning
>
> But …with the fine pitch gears I invented I can get that pitch down to
> 1/16 which is great for a good finish
>
> But… it is a big strain on the gears and motor powering it from the
> leadscrew motor to get that so powering it from the spindle motor instead
> the strain is way less for the gears and motor which is why I wanted so
> many speed options for the spindle motor.
>
> But for most people 2 motors running at the same time is better and easyer
> the work turning quicker with the spindle motor and the feed going nice and
> slow with the leadscrew motor produces finishes so smooth you don’t need to
> sand the work. But most important you must I repeat must have the index
> gear disconnected from the rest of the gears to mill with 2 motors running
> or major damage to your mill will happen. Now that I have totally confused
> everyone I will go now lol😊
>
> Remember Tim you asked 😊😊😊
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 April 2022 8:50 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> Thanks for taking the time to do that.
>
> that is a nice wide range for sure. A person should be able to get
>
> some decent sanding at that higher RPM. Not like on a lathe but still
> extreme improvement from
>
> original I'd say.
>
> Do you know what the RPM's are for the .25 gear set as it would normally
> be ran?
>
> Thanks again for doing this, interesting stuff.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:58 AM  wrote:
>
> Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle
> motor you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full
> speeds are,
>
>
>
> 91 RPM with the .25 index gear
>
>
>
> And 147 RPM with my little gear I made
>
>
>
> that is the exact speeds as I measured them. I have a laser
>
> Tool that records RPMs
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 9:33 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow.
> But with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a
> nice finish so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes
> could be milled like the cnc guys do.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> As always very intriguing and innovative.
>
> I like how fast you can run that spindle now.
>
> You

RE: gear for my spindle motor

Ok 

How long is a piece of string lol each gear including the .25 gear is variable 
speed from 0 to 91 rpm

In the case of the .25 gear

It’s the talk or power that’s the problem because its not a legacy controller 
to run the motor really slow 

Takes more power because of the crappy variable controller so it starts turning 
at a faster speed than I would like.

So the 2x gear runs it quite slow when it starts making it good for large dia 
work and the highest rpm would also be fine with that gear for turning so 12 
inch dia stuff I would use the 2X gear.

But for 1 inch dia stuff I would be using the .25 gear to get the same surface 
or circumference speed

I hope I’m making sense here I know what I mean but I’m not that well at 
explaining.

 

Now to get even more confusing for you all doing it from another way using the 
leadscrew motor and gear sets instead,  the slowest pitch is ½ inch (thats ½ 
inch saddle travel for every 360 degree turn of the work)  too big for a nice 
finish using a corbox bit even a planning bit when turning

But …with the fine pitch gears I invented I can get that pitch down to 1/16 
which is great for a good finish 

But… it is a big strain on the gears and motor powering it from the leadscrew 
motor to get that so powering it from the spindle motor instead the strain is 
way less for the gears and motor which is why I wanted so many speed options 
for the spindle motor.

But for most people 2 motors running at the same time is better and easyer the 
work turning quicker with the spindle motor and the feed going nice and slow 
with the leadscrew motor produces finishes so smooth you don’t need to sand the 
work. But most important you must I repeat must have the index gear 
disconnected from the rest of the gears to mill with 2 motors running or major 
damage to your mill will happen. Now that I have totally confused everyone I 
will go now lol😊

Remember Tim you asked 😊😊😊

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2022 8:50 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Hey Bill,

 

Thanks for taking the time to do that. 

that is a nice wide range for sure. A person should be able to get 

some decent sanding at that higher RPM. Not like on a lathe but still extreme 
improvement from 

original I'd say. 

Do you know what the RPM's are for the .25 gear set as it would normally be ran?

Thanks again for doing this, interesting stuff.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:58 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle motor 
you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full speeds are, 

 

91 RPM with the .25 index gear

 

And 147 RPM with my little gear I made

 

that is the exact speeds as I measured them. I have a laser 

Tool that records RPMs

 

Bill

 

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<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 9:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: gear for my spindle motor

 

Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow. But 
with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a nice finish 
so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes could be milled 
like the cnc guys do.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Hey Bill,

 

As always very intriguing and innovative. 

I like how fast you can run that spindle now. 

You can't tell that from a factory one. 

Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)

The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing motor 
I like them 

But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here is 
a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end showing 
all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

 

Bill

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Re: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-25 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Thanks Curt.
I know sanding on the LOM is not the best. I too do it on the big lathe or
by hand. But to skip that step and be able to do it all on the same machine
would be a process
that would be more efficient if you can stay on the same machine.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 7:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Bill
>
> The 91 rpm is more then enough speed for the rotation of the spindle to
> get a very nice/clean cut from the Legacy.
>
> Tim I personally find sanding on the Legacy to be a pain, I prefer using
> my Lathe for most sanding.  But having said this, If I use my flap sander
> on the Legacy, to sand ropes an other cuts that I've made with the Legacy,
> the flap sander works much better...Here are two links to the old
> archives,
> Mike made his first and then I made my own version shortly after.
> https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/FlapSander.htm
> https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Pugn2.htm
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Monday, April 25, 2022, 03:58:52 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle
> motor you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full
> speeds are,
>
>
>
> 91 RPM with the .25 index gear
>
>
>
> And 147 RPM with my little gear I made
>
>
>
> that is the exact speeds as I measured them. I have a laser
>
> Tool that records RPMs
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 9:33 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow.
> But with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a
> nice finish so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes
> could be milled like the cnc guys do.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> As always very intriguing and innovative.
>
> I like how fast you can run that spindle now.
>
> You can't tell that from a factory one.
>
> Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)
>
> The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM  wrote:
>
> Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing
> motor I like them
>
> But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work
> here is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the
> end showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow
>
> That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.
>
> https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: gear for my spindle motor

 Thank you Bill
The 91 rpm is more then enough speed for the rotation of the spindle to get a 
very nice/clean cut from the Legacy.
Tim I personally find sanding on the Legacy to be a pain, I prefer using my 
Lathe for most sanding.  But having said this, If I use my flap sander on the 
Legacy, to sand ropes an other cuts that I've made with the Legacy, the flap 
sander works much better...    Here are two links to the old archives, Mike 
made his first and then I made my own version shortly 
after.https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/FlapSander.htm 
https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Pugn2.htm

C.A.G.

On Monday, April 25, 2022, 03:58:52 AM EDT,  wrote:  
 
 
Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle motor 
you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full speeds are, 

  

91 RPM with the .25 index gear

  

And 147 RPM with my little gear I made

  

 that is the exact speeds as I measured them. I have a laser 

Tool that records RPMs

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 9:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gear for my spindle motor

  

Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow. But 
with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a nice finish 
so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes could be milled 
like the cnc guys do.

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

  

Hey Bill,

  

As always very intriguing and innovative. 

I like how fast you can run that spindle now. 

You can't tell that from a factory one. 

Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)

The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM  wrote:


Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing motor 
I like them 

But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here is 
a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end showing 
all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

 

Bill

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Re: gear for my spindle motor

Hey Bill,

Thanks for taking the time to do that.
that is a nice wide range for sure. A person should be able to get
some decent sanding at that higher RPM. Not like on a lathe but still
extreme improvement from
original I'd say.
Do you know what the RPM's are for the .25 gear set as it would normally be
ran?
Thanks again for doing this, interesting stuff.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:58 AM  wrote:

> Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle
> motor you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full
> speeds are,
>
>
>
> 91 RPM with the .25 index gear
>
>
>
> And 147 RPM with my little gear I made
>
>
>
> that is the exact speeds as I measured them. I have a laser
>
> Tool that records RPMs
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 9:33 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow.
> But with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a
> nice finish so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes
> could be milled like the cnc guys do.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> As always very intriguing and innovative.
>
> I like how fast you can run that spindle now.
>
> You can't tell that from a factory one.
>
> Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)
>
> The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM  wrote:
>
> Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing
> motor I like them
>
> But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work
> here is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the
> end showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow
>
> That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.
>
> https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Ok guys as promised here is the fast RPMs of my mill with the new spindle motor 
you saw how slow it went with the 2X index gear so the fast full speeds are, 

 

91 RPM with the .25 index gear

 

And 147 RPM with my little gear I made

 

that is the exact speeds as I measured them. I have a laser 

Tool that records RPMs

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 9:33 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gear for my spindle motor

 

Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow. But 
with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a nice finish 
so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes could be milled 
like the cnc guys do.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Hey Bill,

 

As always very intriguing and innovative. 

I like how fast you can run that spindle now. 

You can't tell that from a factory one. 

Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)

The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing motor 
I like them 

But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here is 
a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end showing 
all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

 

Bill

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Re: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-24 Thread Jeff Richmond

Thanks for sharing, Bill

Sooner or later I will need to add a drive motor.

Jeff from Connecticut 
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> On Apr 23, 2022, at 12:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Its an old 4x gear one that I salvaged from the fire I had a few different 
> size ones that was the last one
> I even cut a leadscrew bracket out of the middle it was in my scrap bin I had 
> no others so I made it work again. those 4x gears are a little thicker than 
> the regular gears making them great for making these drive gears out of.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 11:15 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor
>  
> Very Nice Bill
>  
> Where did you find that gear you sandwiched between those two plates? That is 
> not a Legacy gear is it?
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
>  
>  
> On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 05:46:41 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing 
> motor I like them
> 
> But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here 
> is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end 
> showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow
> 
> That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.
> 
> https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
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Re: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread Ccm Ccm

Nice

On Saturday, April 23, 2022,  wrote:

> Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing
> motor I like them
>
> But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work
> here is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the
> end showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow
>
> That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.
>
> https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: gear for my spindle motor

 I am glad that you were able to save a few parts form the fire.  Nice build, I 
always liked the swing motor brackets. 
Keep up the good work Bill.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 12:52:47 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Its an old 4x gear one that I salvaged from the fire I had a few different size 
ones that was the last one

I even cut a leadscrew bracket out of the middle it was in my scrap bin I had 
no others so I made it work again. those 4x gears are a little thicker than the 
regular gears making them great for making these drive gears out of.

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 11:15 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

  

Very Nice Bill

  

Where did you find that gear you sandwiched between those two plates? That is 
not a Legacy gear is it?

  

C.A.G.

  

 

  

On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 05:46:41 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote: 

  

  

Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing motor 
I like them 

But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here is 
a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end showing 
all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

 

Bill

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Re: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread Tim Ziegler

Innovation and recycling at its best.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
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On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:52 AM  wrote:

> Its an old 4x gear one that I salvaged from the fire I had a few different
> size ones that was the last one
>
> I even cut a leadscrew bracket out of the middle it was in my scrap bin I
> had no others so I made it work again. those 4x gears are a little thicker
> than the regular gears making them great for making these drive gears out
> of.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 11:15 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Very Nice Bill
>
>
>
> Where did you find that gear you sandwiched between those two plates? That
> is not a Legacy gear is it?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 05:46:41 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing
> motor I like them
>
> But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work
> here is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the
> end showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow
>
> That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.
>
> https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread bulkeley

Its an old 4x gear one that I salvaged from the fire I had a few different size 
ones that was the last one

I even cut a leadscrew bracket out of the middle it was in my scrap bin I had 
no others so I made it work again. those 4x gears are a little thicker than the 
regular gears making them great for making these drive gears out of.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 11:15 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Very Nice Bill

 

Where did you find that gear you sandwiched between those two plates? That is 
not a Legacy gear is it?

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 05:46:41 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing motor 
I like them 

But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here is 
a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end showing 
all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

 

Bill

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Re: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

 Very Nice Bill
Where did you find that gear you sandwiched between those two plates? That is 
not a Legacy gear is it?
C.A.G.
 
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, 05:46:41 AM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
 wrote:  
 
 
Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing motor 
I like them 

But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here is 
a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end showing 
all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

  

Bill
 

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Re: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread Tim Ziegler

Hey thats some serious planning going on there Bill.
Good job. I appreciate the mindset of improvements.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 6:33 AM  wrote:

> Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow.
> But with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a
> nice finish so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes
> could be milled like the cnc guys do.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: gear for my spindle motor
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> As always very intriguing and innovative.
>
> I like how fast you can run that spindle now.
>
> You can't tell that from a factory one.
>
> Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)
>
> The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM  wrote:
>
> Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing
> motor I like them
>
> But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work
> here is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the
> end showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow
>
> That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.
>
> https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI
>
>
>
> Bill
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RE: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread bulkeley

Not yet I just finished it I will do an approximation of the rpm tomorrow. But 
with that fast speed and a slow feed with a corbox bit will leave a nice finish 
so with a Z axis  and a vertical template nice flowing shapes could be milled 
like the cnc guys do.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2022 8:55 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: gear for my spindle motor

 

Hey Bill,

 

As always very intriguing and innovative. 

I like how fast you can run that spindle now. 

You can't tell that from a factory one. 

Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)

The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing motor 
I like them 

But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here is 
a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end showing 
all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

 

Bill

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Re: gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread Tim Ziegler

Hey Bill,

As always very intriguing and innovative.
I like how fast you can run that spindle now.
You can't tell that from a factory one.
Do you have the RPM's calculated at top speed? (approx)
The drive works very similar to my WoodChuck which has 2 drives.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 4:46 AM  wrote:

> Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I’m making another swing
> motor I like them
>
> But I’m down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work
> here is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the
> end showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow
>
> That’s why I like the swing arm motor so many options.
>
> https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI
>
>
>
> Bill
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gear for my spindle motor

2022-04-23 Thread bulkeley

Made a gear for my new spindle drive that I made I'm making another swing
motor I like them 

But I'm down to scraped gears out of my rubbish bin but I made it work here
is a video showing snippets of it being made and the test run at the end
showing all the speeds I get from really fast to really slow

That's why I like the swing arm motor so many options.

https://youtu.be/fFwdSXKFAbI

 

Bill

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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-10 Thread Tim Ziegler

Thanks Ray will be in touch. I'll see about everything. Crazy busy with
shop work.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

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On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:22 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Thanks Tim.  With your apparent knowledge and machine(s) set up I'm sure
> you could do some great videos.  I do understand though that doing a video
> is not the same thing as running a LOM.
>
> Ray
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:07 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> I've done a couple videos on misc. but not something I've downloaded or
>> anything like Bill or Curt does.
>> I'll have to see some time if my Son could show me or just do it.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:54 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again Tim.  It would be interesting to see some pics of your
>>> machine(s) set ups.  Do you do any videos?
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:34 PM Tim Ziegler 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh and one more thing Ray,
>>>>
>>>> I have my WC main drive motor on my LOM using a chain drive.
>>>> I may change that so as to eliminate any back lash I may be
>>>> encountering currently.
>>>> But for right now, I'm leaving it. Originally the 1500 was to use it to
>>>> mod my 1200 but
>>>> now I got idea's for both.  and looking for more machines lol.
>>>> Have a great night.
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:48 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what
>>>>> can be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds
>>>>> you can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do
>>>>> in my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of 
>>>>> a
>>>>> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
>>>>> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
>>>>> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a 
>>>>> video
>>>>> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
>>>>> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>>>>>
>>>>>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few
>>>>> further details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like
>>>>> your set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done
>>>>> any of that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds
>>>>> like you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work 
>>>>> so
>>>>> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid
>>>>>> legacy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>>>>>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>>>>>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>>>>>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere 
>>>>>> in-between.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>&

Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-10 Thread Ray Leaman

Thanks Tim.  With your apparent knowledge and machine(s) set up I'm sure
you could do some great videos.  I do understand though that doing a video
is not the same thing as running a LOM.

Ray

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:07 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> I've done a couple videos on misc. but not something I've downloaded or
> anything like Bill or Curt does.
> I'll have to see some time if my Son could show me or just do it.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:54 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> Thanks again Tim.  It would be interesting to see some pics of your
>> machine(s) set ups.  Do you do any videos?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:34 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and one more thing Ray,
>>>
>>> I have my WC main drive motor on my LOM using a chain drive.
>>> I may change that so as to eliminate any back lash I may be
>>> encountering currently.
>>> But for right now, I'm leaving it. Originally the 1500 was to use it to
>>> mod my 1200 but
>>> now I got idea's for both.  and looking for more machines lol.
>>> Have a great night.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:48 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what
>>>> can be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds
>>>> you can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do
>>>> in my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
>>>> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
>>>> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
>>>> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
>>>> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>>>>
>>>> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
>>>> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>>>>
>>>>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few
>>>> further details.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like
>>>> your set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done
>>>> any of that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds
>>>> like you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
>>>> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>>>>
>>>> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>>>>
>>>>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>>>>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>>>>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>>>>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh 
>>>>> it
>>>>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere 
>>>>> in-between.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-09 Thread Tim Ziegler

I've done a couple videos on misc. but not something I've downloaded or
anything like Bill or Curt does.
I'll have to see some time if my Son could show me or just do it.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 12:54 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Thanks again Tim.  It would be interesting to see some pics of your
> machine(s) set ups.  Do you do any videos?
>
> Ray
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:34 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Oh and one more thing Ray,
>>
>> I have my WC main drive motor on my LOM using a chain drive.
>> I may change that so as to eliminate any back lash I may be
>> encountering currently.
>> But for right now, I'm leaving it. Originally the 1500 was to use it to
>> mod my 1200 but
>> now I got idea's for both.  and looking for more machines lol.
>> Have a great night.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:48 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>>> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can
>>> be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you
>>> can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in
>>> my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
>>> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
>>> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
>>> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
>>> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>>>
>>> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
>>> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>>>
>>>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few
>>> further details.
>>>
>>> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like
>>> your set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done
>>> any of that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds
>>> like you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
>>> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>>>
>>> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>>>
>>>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>>>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>>>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>>>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it
>>>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere 
>>>> in-between.
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-09 Thread Ray Leaman

Thanks again Tim.  It would be interesting to see some pics of your
machine(s) set ups.  Do you do any videos?

Ray

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:34 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Oh and one more thing Ray,
>
> I have my WC main drive motor on my LOM using a chain drive.
> I may change that so as to eliminate any back lash I may be
> encountering currently.
> But for right now, I'm leaving it. Originally the 1500 was to use it to
> mod my 1200 but
> now I got idea's for both.  and looking for more machines lol.
> Have a great night.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:48 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can
>> be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you
>> can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in
>> my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
>> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
>> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
>> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
>> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>>
>> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
>> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>>
>>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further
>> details.
>>
>> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your
>> set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of
>> that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like
>> you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
>> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>>
>> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>>
>>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it
>>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-09 Thread Ray Leaman

Thanks Tim.  Good to know these ideas work on the 1200 LOM.  Very helpful
to my understnding some things.

Ray

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:27 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Hey Ray,
>
> just a short one as it's getting a bit late and I just got in.
> But yes I have a WoodChuck with the dual motor drive. You can run either
> together or individually.
> So basically it would run like our typical LOM's and if I chose to run
> just the headstock spindle with the independent motor.
> so Curt and I were talking about me taking my WC head stock motor and
> putting it on my 1200 LOM. to run the head stock.
> It's basically the same as Bill's set up.
> I also just recently picked up another LOM 1500 and have it all together.
> little older machine and has the
> adjustable slides but does have the direct drive motor on the acme thread
> shaft.
> A person could really come up with some cool ideas. run the rotary table
> and still have full access and control of the gear drive etc...
> Hope that was some of what you were looking for.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:48 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can
>> be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you
>> can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in
>> my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
>> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
>> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
>> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
>> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>>
>> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
>> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>>
>>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further
>> details.
>>
>> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your
>> set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of
>> that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like
>> you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
>> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>>
>> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>>
>>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it
>>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-09 Thread Ray Leaman

Thanks Bill.  Yes you covered my questions very well. I've been
watching your past videos and look forward to seeing what you do in the
future.  Very interesting stuff.

Ray

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:38 PM  wrote:

> The spindle motor is helpful when template milling and also for achieving
> very good finishes when spindle turning with either the planeing bit or
> corbox bits when turning shapes on a spindle also turning the spindle
> faster can be helpful removing lots of material quicker.
>
>
>
> The spindle linkage if I understand you correctly is the original that
> comes with the mill I removed the duplex gear for filming normally you
> would just disengage it from the index gear when using the spindle motor,
> the 3 different gears I used are legacys index gears the .25 the standard
> and the 2X . The gear on the motor does not get changed. Sorry the video
> you see is all I did on this, making the parts was metal work so I did not
> video that part.
>
>
>
> The 2 motors you see in the video were purchased from legacy owners who no
> longer needed them other motors I have  were bought off ebay they are on
> there from time to time I just put in a search and wait till I get a
> notification of one for sale. I am still looking for appropriate limit
> switches not that I really need them a good operator can stop the mill in
> the right spot without them it’s just easier with them.
>
>
>
> I have done some template work for me this is done by using the spindle
> motor to rotate the spindle while using a slow feed with the feed motor
> moving the saddle along while I follow the template with the styles with
> the cross slide disengaged so it moves easily by hand. Much easier than
> winding 2 handles and working the cross slide all at once lol. I will do a
> template video one day its on my list of things to video but it is a long
> list, my next project hopefully is an eccentric attachment for the rotary
> table when or if I invent that I will do more rosettes hopefully similar to
> very basic spirograph patterns but its all in my brain right now.
>
> Ok I think I answered all your questions if not just ask again questions
> no matter how big, small or simple is how we all learn about the legacy mill
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 February 2021 10:48 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy
>
>
>
> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can
> be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you
> can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in
> my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>
>
>
> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>
>
>
>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further
> details.
>
>
>
> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your
> set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of
> that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like
> you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>
>
>
> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>
> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>
> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from really
> really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the standard to
> the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them all. That’s
> the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it works even
> when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>
> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-09 Thread Tim Ziegler

yup sorry thought so. and answered the other before I read this.

Yes sir I have that table.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 2:17 AM aussiman  wrote:

> opps Tim it might be you i think i ment to send that message to
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:03:19 AM UTC+11 timjz...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Yea I have more bells and whistles on the WC then you can imagine. I have
>> the table to do angles, more gears then Carter had peanuts and both drive
>> systems.
>> The 1500 I bought from Harvey has the drive motor on too but now I want
>> to use that machine too.
>> Yes more excitement in the LOM world and I'm using it more and more.
>> Dado'ed this weekend on it and now its back to turning.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 8:24 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim your WC has the spindle drive motor on it? WOW! That was not a
>>> common part for the WC but an up-grade.
>>> My friend Kevin also has the second motor ON his WC,  Kevin was the one
>>> who interduce the LOM concept to me back in 1990.
>>>
>>> If you have it, Switch it out, and put it on your Legacy,  Wow what
>>> possibility's are open to you now...
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 07:22:50 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bill,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting as it uses the same or similar
>>> concept as my Wood Chuck.
>>> I have often thought about taking the spindle drive motor off the WC and
>>> putting it on my LOM.
>>> Thats where I got my first Drive motor and controls that run my 1200 LOM
>>> anyway.
>>> I'm not sure why they didn't keep putting that 2nd motor on. Lot quicker
>>> gear changes etc...
>>> Thanks again for the inspiration.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 2:32 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>>
>>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it
>>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-09 Thread aussiman

opps Tim it might be you i think i ment to send that message to

Bill

On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 2:03:19 AM UTC+11 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yea I have more bells and whistles on the WC then you can imagine. I have 
> the table to do angles, more gears then Carter had peanuts and both drive 
> systems.
> The 1500 I bought from Harvey has the drive motor on too but now I want to 
> use that machine too. 
> Yes more excitement in the LOM world and I'm using it more and more. 
> Dado'ed this weekend on it and now its back to turning. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 8:24 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Tim your WC has the spindle drive motor on it? WOW! That was not a common 
>> part for the WC but an up-grade.
>> My friend Kevin also has the second motor ON his WC,  Kevin was the one 
>> who interduce the LOM concept to me back in 1990.
>>
>> If you have it, Switch it out, and put it on your Legacy,  Wow what 
>> possibility's are open to you now...
>>
>> C.A.G. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 07:22:50 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Hey Bill,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting as it uses the same or similar 
>> concept as my Wood Chuck. 
>> I have often thought about taking the spindle drive motor off the WC and 
>> putting it on my LOM.
>> Thats where I got my first Drive motor and controls that run my 1200 LOM 
>> anyway. 
>> I'm not sure why they didn't keep putting that 2nd motor on. Lot quicker 
>> gear changes etc...
>> Thanks again for the inspiration. 
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 2:32 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>
>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from 
>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the 
>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them 
>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it 
>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

Oh and one more thing Ray,

I have my WC main drive motor on my LOM using a chain drive.
I may change that so as to eliminate any back lash I may be
encountering currently.
But for right now, I'm leaving it. Originally the 1500 was to use it to mod
my 1200 but
now I got idea's for both.  and looking for more machines lol.
Have a great night.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:48 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can
> be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you
> can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in
> my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>
> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>
>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further
> details.
>
> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your
> set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of
> that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like
> you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>
> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>
>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>
>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it
>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

Bill you're awesome and thanks for sharing so much information and sharing
your wealth of knowledge.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:38 PM  wrote:

> The spindle motor is helpful when template milling and also for achieving
> very good finishes when spindle turning with either the planeing bit or
> corbox bits when turning shapes on a spindle also turning the spindle
> faster can be helpful removing lots of material quicker.
>
>
>
> The spindle linkage if I understand you correctly is the original that
> comes with the mill I removed the duplex gear for filming normally you
> would just disengage it from the index gear when using the spindle motor,
> the 3 different gears I used are legacys index gears the .25 the standard
> and the 2X . The gear on the motor does not get changed. Sorry the video
> you see is all I did on this, making the parts was metal work so I did not
> video that part.
>
>
>
> The 2 motors you see in the video were purchased from legacy owners who no
> longer needed them other motors I have  were bought off ebay they are on
> there from time to time I just put in a search and wait till I get a
> notification of one for sale. I am still looking for appropriate limit
> switches not that I really need them a good operator can stop the mill in
> the right spot without them it’s just easier with them.
>
>
>
> I have done some template work for me this is done by using the spindle
> motor to rotate the spindle while using a slow feed with the feed motor
> moving the saddle along while I follow the template with the styles with
> the cross slide disengaged so it moves easily by hand. Much easier than
> winding 2 handles and working the cross slide all at once lol. I will do a
> template video one day its on my list of things to video but it is a long
> list, my next project hopefully is an eccentric attachment for the rotary
> table when or if I invent that I will do more rosettes hopefully similar to
> very basic spirograph patterns but its all in my brain right now.
>
> Ok I think I answered all your questions if not just ask again questions
> no matter how big, small or simple is how we all learn about the legacy mill
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 February 2021 10:48 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy
>
>
>
> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can
> be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you
> can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in
> my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>
>
>
> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>
>
>
>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further
> details.
>
>
>
> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your
> set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of
> that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like
> you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>
>
>
> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>
> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>
> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from really
> really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the standard to
> the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them all. That’s
> the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it works even
> when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>
> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

Hey Ray,

just a short one as it's getting a bit late and I just got in.
But yes I have a WoodChuck with the dual motor drive. You can run either
together or individually.
So basically it would run like our typical LOM's and if I chose to run just
the headstock spindle with the independent motor.
so Curt and I were talking about me taking my WC head stock motor and
putting it on my 1200 LOM. to run the head stock.
It's basically the same as Bill's set up.
I also just recently picked up another LOM 1500 and have it all together.
little older machine and has the
adjustable slides but does have the direct drive motor on the acme thread
shaft.
A person could really come up with some cool ideas. run the rotary table
and still have full access and control of the gear drive etc...
Hope that was some of what you were looking for.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:48 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can
> be done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you
> can achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in
> my opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a
> swing away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I
> could not see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use
> the same cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video
> on how you did all that in a little more detail?
>
> Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
> machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?
>
>  So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further
> details.
>
> Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your
> set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of
> that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like
> you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
> perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??
>
> Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:
>
>> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>>
>> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from
>> really really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the
>> standard to the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them
>> all. That’s the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it
>> works even when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
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RE: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-08 Thread bulkeley

The spindle motor is helpful when template milling and also for achieving very 
good finishes when spindle turning with either the planeing bit or corbox bits 
when turning shapes on a spindle also turning the spindle faster can be helpful 
removing lots of material quicker.

 

The spindle linkage if I understand you correctly is the original that comes 
with the mill I removed the duplex gear for filming normally you would just 
disengage it from the index gear when using the spindle motor, the 3 different 
gears I used are legacys index gears the .25 the standard and the 2X . The gear 
on the motor does not get changed. Sorry the video you see is all I did on 
this, making the parts was metal work so I did not video that part.

 

The 2 motors you see in the video were purchased from legacy owners who no 
longer needed them other motors I have  were bought off ebay they are on there 
from time to time I just put in a search and wait till I get a notification of 
one for sale. I am still looking for appropriate limit switches not that I 
really need them a good operator can stop the mill in the right spot without 
them it’s just easier with them.

 

I have done some template work for me this is done by using the spindle motor 
to rotate the spindle while using a slow feed with the feed motor moving the 
saddle along while I follow the template with the styles with the cross slide 
disengaged so it moves easily by hand. Much easier than winding 2 handles and 
working the cross slide all at once lol. I will do a template video one day its 
on my list of things to video but it is a long list, my next project hopefully 
is an eccentric attachment for the rotary table when or if I invent that I will 
do more rosettes hopefully similar to very basic spirograph patterns but its 
all in my brain right now.

Ok I think I answered all your questions if not just ask again questions no 
matter how big, small or simple is how we all learn about the legacy mill

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can be 
done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you can 
achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in my 
opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a swing 
away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I could not see 
was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use the same cog wheel 
for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video on how you did all 
that in a little more detail?  

 

Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another machine (Wood 
Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?  

 

 So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further 
details.

 

Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your set 
up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of that?  
If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like you guys may 
have done or at least are aware of how that might work so perhaps you could 
jump in with sharing your experiences ?? 

 

Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.

 

 

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy

Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from really 
really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the standard to the 
2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them all. That’s the best 
thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it works even when the bed 
is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.

https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs

 

Bill

 


 
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-08 Thread Ray Leaman

I am intrigued by your set up Bill.  While I'm not sure exactly what can be
done with the two motor set up, on the surface the variable speeds you can
achieve are almost endless within the sphere of what an LOM can do in my
opinion. In going over and over your video I can see the benefit of a swing
away set up for engaging and changing the various gears.  What I could not
see was how the spindle motor linkage was connected. Do you use the same
cog wheel for engaging all the legacy gears?   Do you have a video on how
you did all that in a little more detail?

Also where did you source your motors?  Did they come off another
machine (Wood Chuck) or did you acquiree them from a commercial source?

 So many questions I know but as you can, maybe you can add a few further
details.

Finally, in reading some of the responses to your post it seems like your
set up may greatly facilitate template/copying work?  Have you done any of
that?  If so, how did it go process wise.  Curt and Tim Z it sounds like
you guys may have done or at least are aware of how that might work so
perhaps you could jump in with sharing your experiences ??

Nice Work Bill!!  Thanks for your videos.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:32 AM  wrote:

> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>
> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from really
> really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the standard to
> the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them all. That’s
> the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it works even
> when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>
> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>
>
>
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Yea I have more bells and whistles on the WC then you can imagine. I have
the table to do angles, more gears then Carter had peanuts and both drive
systems.
The 1500 I bought from Harvey has the drive motor on too but now I want to
use that machine too.
Yes more excitement in the LOM world and I'm using it more and more.
Dado'ed this weekend on it and now its back to turning.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 8:24 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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> Tim your WC has the spindle drive motor on it? WOW! That was not a common
> part for the WC but an up-grade.
> My friend Kevin also has the second motor ON his WC,  Kevin was the one
> who interduce the LOM concept to me back in 1990.
>
> If you have it, Switch it out, and put it on your Legacy,  Wow what
> possibility's are open to you now...
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 07:22:50 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting as it uses the same or similar
> concept as my Wood Chuck.
> I have often thought about taking the spindle drive motor off the WC and
> putting it on my LOM.
> Thats where I got my first Drive motor and controls that run my 1200 LOM
> anyway.
> I'm not sure why they didn't keep putting that 2nd motor on. Lot quicker
> gear changes etc...
> Thanks again for the inspiration.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 2:32 AM  wrote:
>
> Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy
>
> Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from really
> really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the standard to
> the 2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them all. That’s
> the best thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it works even
> when the bed is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.
>
> https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs
>
>
>
> Bill
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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

Tim your WC has the spindle drive motor on it? WOW! That was not a common part
for the WC but an up-grade.My friend Kevin also has the second motor ON his WC,
Kevin was the one who interduce the LOM concept to me back in 1990.
If you have it, Switch it out, and put it on your Legacy, Wow what
possibility's are open to you now...
C.A.G.
On Monday, February 8, 2021, 07:22:50 AM EST, Tim Ziegler
wrote:

Hey Bill,
Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting as it uses the same or similar
concept as my Wood Chuck. I have often thought about taking the spindle drive
motor off the WC and putting it on my LOM.Thats where I got my first Drive
motor and controls that run my 1200 LOM anyway. I'm not sure why they didn't
keep putting that 2nd motor on. Lot quicker gear changes etc...Thanks again for
the inspiration.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 2:32 AM wrote:

Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy

Gave it its maiden run worked great, so many speeds can be had from really
really slow to quite fast by changing gears from the .25 to the standard to the
2x and all using the variable speed motor which fits them all. That’s the best
thing about a swing motor as long as the gears mesh it works even when the bed
is fully up or fully down and everywhere in-between.

https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs

Bill

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Re: adding a spindle motor to the legacy

2021-02-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Very Nice Bill
Now all you need to do is play with the template follower, this spindle drive
motor is a very real game changer. It make the Legacy into great copy lathe and
will give you the smoothest finish on any flat/round turning.Awesome!Keep up
the good work.
C.A.G.
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Well todays job was finishing off the spindle motor on my hybrid legacy

https://youtu.be/n80P9cLYkFs

Bill

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