Re: New front mounted template follower

[Tim Ziegler]

looks pretty cool Curt. Now lets see a video of you using it.
I would like to see how fine of tracing pin you really can use to do more
then roughing it out.
Thanks for coming up with yet another innovation Curt.
Will be great to see it actually operational.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> I just finished up working on my Front mounted template follower for my
> 1000ex.
> When I changed out my Z axis and added the linear rail to my machine,
> I lost the use of my old front mounted template follower.
>
> I like to use the template follower on my Legacy to do a number of
> different types of jobs. Outside the idea of making the Legacy into a
> direct copy lathe of sorts.
>
> Using a template is a great way to gain more control of your machine,
> with the use of a template you can rope on a profile on almost any
> spindle. You can add accents or details to any work you would like to make.
> (Flat work or round.)
>
> I could go on. with the use of how I have used this simple tool in the
> past. But for now, this is what I did, and why?
>
> I found using the template follower the way it was originally made on the
> Legacy, somewhat harder to use then it needed to be, Due to having the
> template so far form the working side/controls of the Legacy, to be
> problematic, and hard to control due to this distance , So years ago I
> re-designed my Legacy to hold the  templates in the front of my machine. To
> give me better control. And it worked out very well for me. (If you like
> you can search the archives to see the old pix.)
> In not 100% sure its done, Yet. but It is useable at this point. So I
> wanted to show everyone what I did .
>
> The template holder mounts to the lower rails of the legacy. (I am using
> Uni-strut, found in most electrical areas in any Big box stores and or
> electrical or plumbing supply houses.)
> The follower is just a pin or stylus that allows you to control the
> router. (the Y axis is left free floating when using the template follower.
> )
> For me I like to use both the motor control on my X axis and the follower
> of the template on the Y axis together to gain the best of both worlds. (so
> to speak.) Control and power is the goal.  Due to my use of the motor
> drive, My follower dose not have to be big and strong on the X axis. so you
> can see my follower is just 1/2" tubing. (its more then strong enough to
> control the X axis)
>
> "O" one more note, the follower is small at this time, but I can easily
> make it the full length of my Legacy if I want.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
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Re: New front mounted template follower

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 That's not a bad idea Bill.
Perhaps soon?
C.A.G.
On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 07:56:23 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Looks good curt perhaps a short video of it working to show how useful the 
template follower can be

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 7:28 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: New front mounted template follower

  

Hello Everyone.

  

I just finished up working on my Front mounted template follower for my 1000ex.

When I changed out my Z axis and added the linear rail to my machine,

I lost the use of my old front mounted template follower.

  

I like to use the template follower on my Legacy to do a number of different 
types of jobs. Outside the idea of making the Legacy into a direct copy lathe 
of sorts.

  

Using a template is a great way to gain more control of your machine, 

with the use of a template you can rope on a profile on almost any spindle. You 
can add accents or details to any work you would like to make. (Flat work or 
round.)

  

I could go on. with the use of how I have used this simple tool in the past. 
But for now, this is what I did, and why?

  

I found using the template follower the way it was originally made on the 
Legacy, somewhat harder to use then it needed to be, Due to having the template 
so far form the working side/controls of the Legacy, to be problematic, and 
hard to control due to this distance , So years ago I re-designed my Legacy to 
hold the  templates in the front of my machine. To give me better control. And 
it worked out very well for me. (If you like you can search the archives to see 
the old pix.)

In not 100% sure its done, Yet. but It is useable at this point. So I wanted to 
show everyone what I did .

  

The template holder mounts to the lower rails of the legacy. (I am using 
Uni-strut, found in most electrical areas in any Big box stores and or 
electrical or plumbing supply houses.)

The follower is just a pin or stylus that allows you to control the router. 
(the Y axis is left free floating when using the template follower. )

For me I like to use both the motor control on my X axis and the follower of 
the template on the Y axis together to gain the best of both worlds. (so to 
speak.) Control and power is the goal.  Due to my use of the motor drive, My 
follower dose not have to be big and strong on the X axis. so you can see my 
follower is just 1/2" tubing. (its more then strong enough to control the X 
axis)

  

"O" one more note, the follower is small at this time, but I can easily make it 
the full length of my Legacy if I want.

  

C.A.G. 

  

  

 

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RE: New front mounted template follower

[bulkeley]

Looks good curt perhaps a short video of it working to show how useful the 
template follower can be

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 7:28 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: New front mounted template follower

 

Hello Everyone.

 

I just finished up working on my Front mounted template follower for my 1000ex.

When I changed out my Z axis and added the linear rail to my machine,

I lost the use of my old front mounted template follower.

 

I like to use the template follower on my Legacy to do a number of different 
types of jobs. Outside the idea of making the Legacy into a direct copy lathe 
of sorts.

 

Using a template is a great way to gain more control of your machine, 

with the use of a template you can rope on a profile on almost any spindle. You 
can add accents or details to any work you would like to make. (Flat work or 
round.)

 

I could go on. with the use of how I have used this simple tool in the past. 
But for now, this is what I did, and why?

 

I found using the template follower the way it was originally made on the 
Legacy, somewhat harder to use then it needed to be, Due to having the template 
so far form the working side/controls of the Legacy, to be problematic, and 
hard to control due to this distance , So years ago I re-designed my Legacy to 
hold the  templates in the front of my machine. To give me better control. And 
it worked out very well for me. (If you like you can search the archives to see 
the old pix.)

In not 100% sure its done, Yet. but It is useable at this point. So I wanted to 
show everyone what I did .

 

The template holder mounts to the lower rails of the legacy. (I am using 
Uni-strut, found in most electrical areas in any Big box stores and or 
electrical or plumbing supply houses.)

The follower is just a pin or stylus that allows you to control the router. 
(the Y axis is left free floating when using the template follower. )

For me I like to use both the motor control on my X axis and the follower of 
the template on the Y axis together to gain the best of both worlds. (so to 
speak.) Control and power is the goal.  Due to my use of the motor drive, My 
follower dose not have to be big and strong on the X axis. so you can see my 
follower is just 1/2" tubing. (its more then strong enough to control the X 
axis)

 

"O" one more note, the follower is small at this time, but I can easily make it 
the full length of my Legacy if I want.

 

C.A.G. 

 

 

 

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Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

you're all good Dan. It happens a lot lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 11:40 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Admin options apply.  I don't care if they "get lost", but I feel badly
> hijacking the subject of the OP.  Please move them at discretion.
> Searchable title might be like "LOM assisted handle making". Thanks for
> cleaning up the mess I made!
>
> The lathe handles are close to 2" OD and maybe a foot or little more
> long.  Real beefy. All the other handles are 1 1/4" OD and feel smaller
> than that because of the octagon section.
>
> DanK
>
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:28:39 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> hey Dan,
>>
>> Someone can switch this over to whatever topic or Subject you would like
>> to name it.
>> Bill, Curt, and Mac I think have the option to do that. Then your posts
>> will not get lost.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:49 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My apologies.  I should have started another conversation.
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you, guys.  I'll get a couple more pics today.
>>>>  The finish is just Antique Oil or Danish Oil.  They get
>>>> shiny with use ! This London pattern is very attractive
>>>> to me and very comfortable to use.  I have four massive
>>>> lathe tool handles with interchangeable blades turned
>>>>  from osage orange (hedge), and they are a pleasure to
>>>>  use in heavy roughing cuts as well as fine control for
>>>>  delicate cuts.  So this pattern is very adaptable.  I've
>>>> even built hand screws with this pattern and copper
>>>>  ferrules using Jatoba!
>>>> [image: 0495StanleySocketChiselSet.JPG]
>>>> [image: 0155BlackOakHandscrews.JPG]
>>>> [image: 0100RedOakHandscrews.JPG]
>>>> [image: LatheToolsBig.JPG]
>>>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:44:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow Dan.
>>>>> I like those. They turned out very nice.
>>>>> Can I get a close up of just one of those handles.
>>>>> Simple but elegant design.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 01:43:40 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>>>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow Dan that is some work to be proud of. thanks for sharing it for
>>>>> sure.
>>>>> What did you say you used for finish on them again?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>>
>>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 9:30 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have much for pictures, Tim.  I get so involved in the work
>>>>>  that pictures are the farthest from my mind!
>>>>> These Pfeil pattern handles are eight sided cut with an upspiral
>>>>> on the front side of  the blank following a template.  They were
>>>>> indexed using my mod index arrangement described in detail
>>>>> previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: PfeilStyleHandles.JPG]
>>>>>
>>>>> These London pattern handles were made from straight
>>>>> octagonal blanks prepared on the REVO then mounted on
>>>>> my Supershop lathe for copy routing from a pattern.  This is
>>>>> a batch made a little while ago. Now all my carving tools have
>>>>> these handles or the original Pfeil. Notice the brass ferrules
>>>>> I made from brass hex bar (not on the REVO, LOL.)
>>>>>   [im

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

Admin options apply.  I don't care if they "get lost", but I feel badly 
hijacking the subject of the OP.  Please move them at discretion. 
Searchable title might be like "LOM assisted handle making". Thanks for 
cleaning up the mess I made!

The lathe handles are close to 2" OD and maybe a foot or little more long.  
Real beefy. All the other handles are 1 1/4" OD and feel smaller than that 
because of the octagon section.  

DanK

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:28:39 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> hey Dan,
>
> Someone can switch this over to whatever topic or Subject you would like 
> to name it. 
> Bill, Curt, and Mac I think have the option to do that. Then your posts 
> will not get lost. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:49 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> My apologies.  I should have started another conversation.
>> DanK
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, guys.  I'll get a couple more pics today. 
>>>  The finish is just Antique Oil or Danish Oil.  They get 
>>> shiny with use ! This London pattern is very attractive 
>>> to me and very comfortable to use.  I have four massive 
>>> lathe tool handles with interchangeable blades turned
>>>  from osage orange (hedge), and they are a pleasure to
>>>  use in heavy roughing cuts as well as fine control for
>>>  delicate cuts.  So this pattern is very adaptable.  I've 
>>> even built hand screws with this pattern and copper
>>>  ferrules using Jatoba!
>>> [image: 0495StanleySocketChiselSet.JPG]
>>> [image: 0155BlackOakHandscrews.JPG]  
>>> [image: 0100RedOakHandscrews.JPG]
>>> [image: LatheToolsBig.JPG]
>>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:44:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow Dan.
>>>> I like those. They turned out very nice.
>>>> Can I get a close up of just one of those handles. 
>>>> Simple but elegant design.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 01:43:40 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow Dan that is some work to be proud of. thanks for sharing it for 
>>>> sure. 
>>>> What did you say you used for finish on them again?
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 9:30 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't have much for pictures, Tim.  I get so involved in the work
>>>>  that pictures are the farthest from my mind!  
>>>> These Pfeil pattern handles are eight sided cut with an upspiral 
>>>> on the front side of  the blank following a template.  They were 
>>>> indexed using my mod index arrangement described in detail previously.  
>>>>
>>>> [image: PfeilStyleHandles.JPG]  
>>>>
>>>> These London pattern handles were made from straight 
>>>> octagonal blanks prepared on the REVO then mounted on
>>>> my Supershop lathe for copy routing from a pattern.  This is 
>>>> a batch made a little while ago. Now all my carving tools have
>>>> these handles or the original Pfeil. Notice the brass ferrules 
>>>> I made from brass hex bar (not on the REVO, LOL.)
>>>>   [image: CarvingToolHandles.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> DanK
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:55:46 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Dan if you don't mind sharing some of that, I'd take a look for 
>>>> sure.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>
>&g

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

hey Dan,

Someone can switch this over to whatever topic or Subject you would like to
name it.
Bill, Curt, and Mac I think have the option to do that. Then your posts
will not get lost.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:49 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> My apologies.  I should have started another conversation.
> DanK
>
>
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you, guys.  I'll get a couple more pics today.
>>  The finish is just Antique Oil or Danish Oil.  They get
>> shiny with use ! This London pattern is very attractive
>> to me and very comfortable to use.  I have four massive
>> lathe tool handles with interchangeable blades turned
>>  from osage orange (hedge), and they are a pleasure to
>>  use in heavy roughing cuts as well as fine control for
>>  delicate cuts.  So this pattern is very adaptable.  I've
>> even built hand screws with this pattern and copper
>>  ferrules using Jatoba!
>> [image: 0495StanleySocketChiselSet.JPG]
>> [image: 0155BlackOakHandscrews.JPG]
>> [image: 0100RedOakHandscrews.JPG]
>> [image: LatheToolsBig.JPG]
>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:44:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Wow Dan.
>>> I like those. They turned out very nice.
>>> Can I get a close up of just one of those handles.
>>> Simple but elegant design.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 01:43:40 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow Dan that is some work to be proud of. thanks for sharing it for
>>> sure.
>>> What did you say you used for finish on them again?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 9:30 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have much for pictures, Tim.  I get so involved in the work
>>>  that pictures are the farthest from my mind!
>>> These Pfeil pattern handles are eight sided cut with an upspiral
>>> on the front side of  the blank following a template.  They were
>>> indexed using my mod index arrangement described in detail previously.
>>>
>>> [image: PfeilStyleHandles.JPG]
>>>
>>> These London pattern handles were made from straight
>>> octagonal blanks prepared on the REVO then mounted on
>>> my Supershop lathe for copy routing from a pattern.  This is
>>> a batch made a little while ago. Now all my carving tools have
>>> these handles or the original Pfeil. Notice the brass ferrules
>>> I made from brass hex bar (not on the REVO, LOL.)
>>>   [image: CarvingToolHandles.JPG]
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:55:46 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Dan if you don't mind sharing some of that, I'd take a look for sure.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 8:09 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You've got some useful mods there.  I do use the template follower on my
>>> REVO for replicating Pfeil handles and other simple profiles. Will be
>>> "twisting" some oak burl handles to a simple profile soon.  I hope.
>>> DanK
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> I totally agree with you
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2023 12:12 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Bill.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have one more posting to do on this topic.
>>>
>>&g

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello and Good morning to everyone.
Dan those handles are very nice looking. I like the lathe chisels handles best. 
 ;-)What diameter are those handles? They look to be 1 1/4"?  but its hard to 
tell form the photos ,or is it more a matter of feel and they are different 
sizes?  Now that I think about the last Chisel handle job that I did, I had to 
make 4 different sized handles to fit the chisels.I don't think I have any 
photos of those (they were strictly a lathe job, No Legacy used.), but I still 
have the templates that I made them from. If you like I can photograph those 
and post them to you?
Thanks for sharing.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 08:49:43 AM EDT, cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 My apologies.  I should have started another conversation.DanK

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you, guys.  I'll get a couple more pics today. 
 The finish is just Antique Oil or Danish Oil.  They get 
shiny with use ! This London pattern is very attractive 
to me and very comfortable to use.  I have four massive 
lathe tool handles with interchangeable blades turned from osage orange 
(hedge), and they are a pleasure to use in heavy roughing cuts as well as fine 
control for delicate cuts.  So this pattern is very adaptable.  I've 
even built hand screws with this pattern and copper ferrules using Jatoba!    
  

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:44:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

 Wow Dan.I like those. They turned out very nice.Can I get a close up of just 
one of those handles. Simple but elegant design.
Thank you.
C.A.G.


On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 01:43:40 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Wow Dan that is some work to be proud of. thanks for sharing it for sure. What 
did you say you used for finish on them again?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 9:30 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

I don't have much for pictures, Tim.  I get so involved in the work that 
pictures are the farthest from my mind!  
These Pfeil pattern handles are eight sided cut with an upspiral 
on the front side of  the blank following a template.  They were 
indexed using my mod index arrangement described in detail previously.  

  

These London pattern handles were made from straight 
octagonal blanks prepared on the REVO then mounted onmy Supershop lathe for 
copy routing from a pattern.  This is 
a batch made a little while ago. Now all my carving tools havethese handles or 
the original Pfeil. Notice the brass ferrules 
I made from brass hex bar (not on the REVO, LOL.)
  
DanK

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:55:46 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Hey Dan if you don't mind sharing some of that, I'd take a look for sure.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 8:09 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

You've got some useful mods there.  I do use the template follower on my REVO 
for replicating Pfeil handles and other simple profiles. Will be "twisting" 
some oak burl handles to a simple profile soon.  I hope.DanK

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:


I totally agree with you

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 12:12 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

 

Thank you Bill.

 

I have one more posting to do on this topic.  

 

I believe the template follower on the Legacy is something that most people

do not use, 

It can offer so many possibility's and design elements that you just 

can not make on the machine any other way.

 

 

Have a GREAT DAY.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 02:21:17 AM EDT,  wrote: 

 

 

Lots of great info there curt 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:40 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

 

Hello everyone.

 

Here are a few more template following videos.

I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.

 

A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head. (there are 
two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood Chuck.)  

(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own spindle 
drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way as it dose 
here.)

But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and some 
were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do while 
fluting.

 

On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be 
modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.

 

ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

My apologies.  I should have started another conversation.
DanK


On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-4 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you, guys.  I'll get a couple more pics today. 
>  The finish is just Antique Oil or Danish Oil.  They get 
> shiny with use ! This London pattern is very attractive 
> to me and very comfortable to use.  I have four massive 
> lathe tool handles with interchangeable blades turned
>  from osage orange (hedge), and they are a pleasure to
>  use in heavy roughing cuts as well as fine control for
>  delicate cuts.  So this pattern is very adaptable.  I've 
> even built hand screws with this pattern and copper
>  ferrules using Jatoba!
> [image: 0495StanleySocketChiselSet.JPG]
> [image: 0155BlackOakHandscrews.JPG]  
> [image: 0100RedOakHandscrews.JPG]
> [image: LatheToolsBig.JPG]
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 12:44:32 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Wow Dan.
>> I like those. They turned out very nice.
>> Can I get a close up of just one of those handles. 
>> Simple but elegant design.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 01:43:40 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Wow Dan that is some work to be proud of. thanks for sharing it for sure. 
>> What did you say you used for finish on them again?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 9:30 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't have much for pictures, Tim.  I get so involved in the work
>>  that pictures are the farthest from my mind!  
>> These Pfeil pattern handles are eight sided cut with an upspiral 
>> on the front side of  the blank following a template.  They were 
>> indexed using my mod index arrangement described in detail previously.  
>>
>> [image: PfeilStyleHandles.JPG]  
>>
>> These London pattern handles were made from straight 
>> octagonal blanks prepared on the REVO then mounted on
>> my Supershop lathe for copy routing from a pattern.  This is 
>> a batch made a little while ago. Now all my carving tools have
>> these handles or the original Pfeil. Notice the brass ferrules 
>> I made from brass hex bar (not on the REVO, LOL.)
>>   [image: CarvingToolHandles.JPG]
>>
>> DanK
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:55:46 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dan if you don't mind sharing some of that, I'd take a look for sure.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 8:09 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>> You've got some useful mods there.  I do use the template follower on my 
>> REVO for replicating Pfeil handles and other simple profiles. Will be 
>> "twisting" some oak burl handles to a simple profile soon.  I hope.
>> DanK
>>
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with you
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2023 12:12 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thank you Bill.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have one more posting to do on this topic.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I believe the template follower on the Legacy is something that most 
>> people
>>
>> do not use, 
>>
>> It can offer so many possibility's and design elements that you just 
>>
>> can not make on the machine any other way.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Have a GREAT DAY.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 02:21:17 AM EDT,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Lots of great info there curt 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:40 PM
>> *To:

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Dan if you don't mind sharing some of that, I'd take a look for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 8:09 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> You've got some useful mods there.  I do use the template follower on my
> REVO for replicating Pfeil handles and other simple profiles. Will be
> "twisting" some oak burl handles to a simple profile soon.  I hope.
> DanK
>
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
>> I totally agree with you
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2023 12:12 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you Bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have one more posting to do on this topic.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe the template follower on the Legacy is something that most
>> people
>>
>> do not use,
>>
>> It can offer so many possibility's and design elements that you just
>>
>> can not make on the machine any other way.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a GREAT DAY.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 02:21:17 AM EDT, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lots of great info there curt
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:40 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are a few more template following videos.
>>
>> I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.
>>
>>
>>
>> A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head.
>> (there are two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood
>> Chuck.)
>>
>> *(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own
>> spindle drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way
>> as it dose here.)*
>>
>> But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and
>> some were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do
>> while fluting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can
>> be modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.
>>
>>
>>
>> ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The
>> over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.
>>
>> The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not
>> make you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what
>> is was made to do.)
>>
>> By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting
>> potential.
>>
>> So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or
>> make a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use
>> the indexing plate and your router  bits.
>>
>> THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and
>> learn to use so you can become a better wood worker.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good day/night everyone.
>>
>> talk to you all more tomorrow.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>> ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.y

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

You've got some useful mods there.  I do use the template follower on my 
REVO for replicating Pfeil handles and other simple profiles. Will be 
"twisting" some oak burl handles to a simple profile soon.  I hope.
DanK

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

> I totally agree with you
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2023 12:12 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill
>
>  
>
> Thank you Bill.
>
>  
>
> I have one more posting to do on this topic.  
>
>  
>
> I believe the template follower on the Legacy is something that most people
>
> do not use, 
>
> It can offer so many possibility's and design elements that you just 
>
> can not make on the machine any other way.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Have a GREAT DAY.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 02:21:17 AM EDT,  wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Lots of great info there curt 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:40 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill
>
>  
>
> Hello everyone.
>
>  
>
> Here are a few more template following videos.
>
> I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.
>
>  
>
> A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head. 
> (there are two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood 
> Chuck.)  
>
> *(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own 
> spindle drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way 
> as it dose here.)*
>
> But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and 
> some were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do 
> while fluting.
>
>  
>
> On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be 
> modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.
>
>  
>
> ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The 
> over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.
>
> The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not 
> make you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what 
> is was made to do.)  
>
> By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting 
> potential.
>
> So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or 
> make a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use 
> the indexing plate and your router  bits.
>
> THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and 
> learn to use so you can become a better wood worker.
>
>  
>
> If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them. 
>
>  
>
> Have a good day/night everyone.
>
> talk to you all more tomorrow.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a 
> Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able 
> to follow one in OT/OM turning.
>
>  
>
> Have a good night.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>  
>
> I just got home form work.
>
>  
>
> Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used 
> to make small changes in your template following.
>
>  
>
> Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor 
> there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel 
> trued up on a number of different sized shafts.
>
&g

RE: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[bulkeley]

I totally agree with you

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 12:12 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

 

Thank you Bill.

 

I have one more posting to do on this topic.  

 

I believe the template follower on the Legacy is something that most people

do not use, 

It can offer so many possibility's and design elements that you just 

can not make on the machine any other way.

 

 

Have a GREAT DAY.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 02:21:17 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Lots of great info there curt 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

 

Hello everyone.

 

Here are a few more template following videos.

I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.

 

A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head. (there are 
two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood Chuck.)  

(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own spindle 
drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way as it dose 
here.)

But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and some 
were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do while 
fluting.

 

On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be 
modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.

 

ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The 
over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.

The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not make 
you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what is was 
made to do.)  

By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting 
potential.

So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or make 
a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use the 
indexing plate and your router  bits.

THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and learn 
to use so you can become a better wood worker.

 

If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them. 

 

Have a good day/night everyone.

talk to you all more tomorrow.

 

C.A.G.

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a 
Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able to 
follow one in OT/OM turning.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone.

 

I just got home form work.

 

Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used to 
make small changes in your template following.

 

Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor 
there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel trued 
up on a number of different sized shafts.

"Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower . This 
way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small shim, 
making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer

(finishing) detailed types of cutting.

This is one method that I have used many times over the years.  

 

Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there 
larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who wanted 
there new Z axis on there Legacy's.

The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower, (Again 
On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.) 

I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried to get this 
control done. 

ON the Front mounted template follower I used a router circle adjustment 
screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. I used a set of large 
saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking everything in place.

I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can not find a photo at 
this time.)

 

Have a 

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Oh they are just clips the first ones you posted did not say they where
just photos so I may have misunderstood
what you meant. I was hoping they were active videos.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 11:26 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> How? the clips were meant for still photos...  If the clip worked as a
> video, I need to look into that!  Thanks for the note.   How in the world
> did that happen? ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:23:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> hey Curt only one of those play as a video.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 12:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> Here are a few more template following videos.
> I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.
>
> A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head.
> (there are two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood
> Chuck.)
> *(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own
> spindle drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way
> as it dose here.)*
> But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and
> some were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do
> while fluting.
>
> On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be
> modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.
>
> ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The
> over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.
> The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not
> make you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what
> is was made to do.)
> By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting
> potential.
> So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or
> make a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use
> the indexing plate and your router  bits.
> THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and
> learn to use so you can become a better wood worker.
>
> If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them.
>
> Have a good day/night everyone.
> talk to you all more tomorrow.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a
> Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able
> to follow one in OT/OM turning.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I just got home form work.
>
> Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used
> to make small changes in your template following.
>
> Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor
> there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel
> trued up on a number of different sized shafts.
> "Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower .
> This way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small
> shim, making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer
> (finishing) detailed types of cutting.
> This is one method that I have used many times over the years.
>
> Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there
> larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who
> wanted there new Z axis on there Legacy's.
> The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower,
> (Again On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.)
> I am putting three photos of different ways that I have t

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 How? the clips were meant for still photos...  If the clip worked as a video, 
I need to look into that!  Thanks for the note.   How in the world did that 
happen? ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:23:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 hey Curt only one of those play as a video.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 12:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hello everyone.
Here are a few more template following videos.I the photos, the 5 spindles were 
all cut form the same template.
A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head. (there are 
two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood Chuck.)  (There are a 
number of people in this group who have made there own spindle drive motors, to 
make there Legacy work very much in the same way as it dose here.)But other 
spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and some were locked 
in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do while fluting.
On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be 
modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.
ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The 
over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.The Legacy is "Not" a copy 
lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not make you an exact copy of 
something. (at least not easily ,that's not what is was made to do.)  By using 
a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting potential.So you 
can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or make a 
spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use the 
indexing plate and your router  bits.THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there 
for you to experiment with and learn to use so you can become a better wood 
worker.
If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them. 
Have a good day/night everyone.talk to you all more tomorrow.
C.A.G.On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a 
Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able to 
follow one in OT/OM turning.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Hello Everyone.
I just got home form work.
Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used to 
make small changes in your template following.
Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor 
there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel trued 
up on a number of different sized shafts."Well" This is the idea. build up the 
bushing on the template follower . This way when you get to the size you want, 
you can remove one more small shim, making the follower  slightly smaller so 
you can adjust for the finer(finishing) detailed types of cutting.This is one 
method that I have used many times over the years.  
Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there 
larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who wanted 
there new Z axis on there Legacy's.The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the 
movement of the follower, (Again On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the 
distance change.) I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried 
to get this control done. ON the Front mounted template follower I used a 
router circle adjustment screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. 
I used a set of large saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking 
everything in place.I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can 
not find a photo at this time.)
Have a good night everyone.talk to you all more latter.
C.A.G.

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Good stuff  Curt.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Here are some step by step photos.As you can see in the first photo the 
templates are not very detailed, they need to be smooth and in the general 
shape of what you want to make, but the fine details are not there, those will 
have to be put in after the general shape has been turned.the 2,3 photos are 
aligning the router with the center of the work piece/center of the machine. 
form this poi

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

hey Curt only one of those play as a video.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 12:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> Here are a few more template following videos.
> I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.
>
> A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head.
> (there are two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood
> Chuck.)
> *(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own
> spindle drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way
> as it dose here.)*
> But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and
> some were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do
> while fluting.
>
> On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be
> modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.
>
> ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The
> over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.
> The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not
> make you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what
> is was made to do.)
> By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting
> potential.
> So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or
> make a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use
> the indexing plate and your router  bits.
> THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and
> learn to use so you can become a better wood worker.
>
> If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them.
>
> Have a good day/night everyone.
> talk to you all more tomorrow.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a
> Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able
> to follow one in OT/OM turning.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I just got home form work.
>
> Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used
> to make small changes in your template following.
>
> Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor
> there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel
> trued up on a number of different sized shafts.
> "Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower .
> This way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small
> shim, making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer
> (finishing) detailed types of cutting.
> This is one method that I have used many times over the years.
>
> Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there
> larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who
> wanted there new Z axis on there Legacy's.
> The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower,
> (Again On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.)
> I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried to get this
> control done.
> ON the Front mounted template follower I used a router circle adjustment
> screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. I used a set of
> large saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking everything in
> place.
> I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can not find a photo
> at this time.)
>
> Have a good night everyone.
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good stuff  Curt.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt,
Good information and hopefully it gets others stimulated to step outside
the box on LOM usage.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 12:40 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> Here are a few more template following videos.
> I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.
>
> A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head.
> (there are two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood
> Chuck.)
> *(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own
> spindle drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way
> as it dose here.)*
> But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and
> some were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do
> while fluting.
>
> On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be
> modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.
>
> ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The
> over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.
> The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not
> make you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what
> is was made to do.)
> By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting
> potential.
> So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or
> make a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use
> the indexing plate and your router  bits.
> THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and
> learn to use so you can become a better wood worker.
>
> If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them.
>
> Have a good day/night everyone.
> talk to you all more tomorrow.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a
> Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able
> to follow one in OT/OM turning.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I just got home form work.
>
> Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used
> to make small changes in your template following.
>
> Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor
> there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel
> trued up on a number of different sized shafts.
> "Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower .
> This way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small
> shim, making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer
> (finishing) detailed types of cutting.
> This is one method that I have used many times over the years.
>
> Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there
> larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who
> wanted there new Z axis on there Legacy's.
> The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower,
> (Again On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.)
> I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried to get this
> control done.
> ON the Front mounted template follower I used a router circle adjustment
> screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. I used a set of
> large saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking everything in
> place.
> I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can not find a photo
> at this time.)
>
> Have a good night everyone.
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good stuff  Curt.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Thank you Bill.
I have one more posting to do on this topic.  
I believe the template follower on the Legacy is something that most peopledo 
not use, It can offer so many possibility's and design elements that you just 
can not make on the machine any other way.

Have a GREAT DAY.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 02:21:17 AM EDT,  wrote:  
 
 
Lots of great info there curt 

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

  

Hello everyone.

  

Here are a few more template following videos.

I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.

  

A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head. (there are 
two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood Chuck.)  

(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own spindle 
drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way as it dose 
here.)

But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and some 
were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do while 
fluting.

  

On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be 
modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.

  

ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The 
over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.

The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not make 
you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what is was 
made to do.)  

By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting 
potential.

So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or make 
a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use the 
indexing plate and your router  bits.

THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and learn 
to use so you can become a better wood worker.

  

If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them. 

  

Have a good day/night everyone.

talk to you all more tomorrow.

  

C.A.G.

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a 
Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able to 
follow one in OT/OM turning.

  

Have a good night.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote: 

  

  

Hello Everyone.

  

I just got home form work.

  

Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used to 
make small changes in your template following.

  

Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor 
there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel trued 
up on a number of different sized shafts.

"Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower . This 
way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small shim, 
making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer

(finishing) detailed types of cutting.

This is one method that I have used many times over the years.  

  

Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there 
larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who wanted 
there new Z axis on there Legacy's.

The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower, (Again 
On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.) 

I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried to get this 
control done. 

ON the Front mounted template follower I used a router circle adjustment 
screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. I used a set of large 
saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking everything in place.

I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can not find a photo at 
this time.)

  

Have a good night everyone.

talk to you all more latter.

  

C.A.G.

  

  

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

Good stuff  Curt.




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Here are some step by step photos.

As you can see in the first photo the templates are not very detailed, they 
need to be smooth and 

RE: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[bulkeley]

Lots of great info there curt 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:40 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

 

Hello everyone.

 

Here are a few more template following videos.

I the photos, the 5 spindles were all cut form the same template.

 

A few were run with both the drive motor and the spindle drive head. (there are 
two photos of the spindle drive motor mounted on the Wood Chuck.)  

(There are a number of people in this group who have made there own spindle 
drive motors, to make there Legacy work very much in the same way as it dose 
here.)

But other spindles were cut as a rope/using the gears and template, and some 
were locked in place by the use of a indexing plate like you would do while 
fluting.

 

On the Legacy (or Wood Chuck here.) the template is a guide, and it can be 
modified to come up with some pretty neat design elements.

 

ONE of the biggest problems people run into when using templates is, The 
over-all idea of what the template is suppose to do.

The Legacy is "Not" a copy lathe, Using a template on the Legacy will not make 
you an exact copy of something. (at least not easily ,that's not what is was 
made to do.)  

By using a template on the Legacy you gain control the routers cutting 
potential.

So you can rope a spindle on a tapper, as well as add some neat flutes or make 
a spindle square or any shape you may choose, depending on how you use the 
indexing plate and your router  bits.

THERE ARE SO MANY Possibility's out there for you to experiment with and learn 
to use so you can become a better wood worker.

 

If you have any questions? Or comments?  Feel free to state them. 

 

Have a good day/night everyone.

talk to you all more tomorrow.

 

C.A.G.

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a 
Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able to 
follow one in OT/OM turning.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello Everyone.

 

I just got home form work.

 

Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used to 
make small changes in your template following.

 

Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor 
there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel trued 
up on a number of different sized shafts.

"Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower . This 
way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small shim, 
making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer

(finishing) detailed types of cutting.

This is one method that I have used many times over the years.  

 

Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there 
larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who wanted 
there new Z axis on there Legacy's.

The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower, (Again 
On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.) 

I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried to get this 
control done. 

ON the Front mounted template follower I used a router circle adjustment 
screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. I used a set of large 
saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking everything in place.

I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can not find a photo at 
this time.)

 

Have a good night everyone.

talk to you all more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Good stuff  Curt.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Here are some step by step photos.

As you can see in the first photo the templates are not very detailed, they 
need to be smooth and in the general shape of what you want to make, but the 
fine details are not there, those will have to be put in after the general 
shap

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Yup great video I watched that one the other day. Extremely good.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:08 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a
> Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able
> to follow one in OT/OM turning.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I just got home form work.
>
> Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used
> to make small changes in your template following.
>
> Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor
> there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel
> trued up on a number of different sized shafts.
> "Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower .
> This way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small
> shim, making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer
> (finishing) detailed types of cutting.
> This is one method that I have used many times over the years.
>
> Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there
> larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who
> wanted there new Z axis on there Legacy's.
> The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower,
> (Again On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.)
> I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried to get this
> control done.
> ON the Front mounted template follower I used a router circle adjustment
> screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. I used a set of
> large saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking everything in
> place.
> I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can not find a photo
> at this time.)
>
> Have a good night everyone.
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good stuff  Curt.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Here are some step by step photos.
> As you can see in the first photo the templates are not very detailed,
> they need to be smooth and in the general shape of what you want to make,
> but the fine details are not there, those will have to be put in after the
> general shape has been turned.
> the 2,3 photos are aligning the router with the center of the work
> piece/center of the machine. form this point you lock the machine in place
> and then align the template to the machine.
> The last two photos are the Legacy cutting form the side, 1/2" straight
> router bit (a spiral bit cuts nicer then a straight flute carbide bit, but
> either will work.)
> The Y axis needs to move freely so it is touching the template while
> cutting. You will have to hold the router by hand while cutting, Make light
> cuts down the spindle to get to the depth of cut you want to make.
> *NOTE: *
> In My 200 video, I use a motor to turn the spindle. A hand crank will work
> just as fine as the motor.
> BUT, You can lock the indexing head in place and cut the blank locked in
> place as well, and just index the part over and over to reach to final
> shape. You may find this faster and less nerve racking at the very
> beginning of template work.
> Now the fun part. once the final shape has been reached. you can adjust
> the template follower slightly to make designs such as tapered rope cutting
> and any fine detail.
> NOTE: in the past I did not want to adjust the template or follower after
> the set shape was made, moving either of the two can greatly change the
> shape of the part, so you need to be careful. (this is why I use a mic. on
> my 200's template follower.) but you can do the same thing by using shims
> or making adjustable followers. (we will cover this idea latter.)
>
> PLAY as much as you can before "TRING" to make anything important to you.
> There is a learning curve that needs to be explored.
>
> LAST NOTE:  I am using these photos to help demonstrate the process. MY
> 1000ex, No longer

Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Great details Curt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 12:02 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> I just got home form work.
>
> Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used
> to make small changes in your template following.
>
> Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor
> there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel
> trued up on a number of different sized shafts.
> "Well" This is the idea. build up the bushing on the template follower .
> This way when you get to the size you want, you can remove one more small
> shim, making the follower  slightly smaller so you can adjust for the finer
> (finishing) detailed types of cutting.
> This is one method that I have used many times over the years.
>
> Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there
> larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who
> wanted there new Z axis on there Legacy's.
> The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the movement of the follower,
> (Again On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the distance change.)
> I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried to get this
> control done.
> ON the Front mounted template follower I used a router circle adjustment
> screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. I used a set of
> large saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking everything in
> place.
> I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can not find a photo
> at this time.)
>
> Have a good night everyone.
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Good stuff  Curt.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Here are some step by step photos.
> As you can see in the first photo the templates are not very detailed,
> they need to be smooth and in the general shape of what you want to make,
> but the fine details are not there, those will have to be put in after the
> general shape has been turned.
> the 2,3 photos are aligning the router with the center of the work
> piece/center of the machine. form this point you lock the machine in place
> and then align the template to the machine.
> The last two photos are the Legacy cutting form the side, 1/2" straight
> router bit (a spiral bit cuts nicer then a straight flute carbide bit, but
> either will work.)
> The Y axis needs to move freely so it is touching the template while
> cutting. You will have to hold the router by hand while cutting, Make light
> cuts down the spindle to get to the depth of cut you want to make.
> *NOTE: *
> In My 200 video, I use a motor to turn the spindle. A hand crank will work
> just as fine as the motor.
> BUT, You can lock the indexing head in place and cut the blank locked in
> place as well, and just index the part over and over to reach to final
> shape. You may find this faster and less nerve racking at the very
> beginning of template work.
> Now the fun part. once the final shape has been reached. you can adjust
> the template follower slightly to make designs such as tapered rope cutting
> and any fine detail.
> NOTE: in the past I did not want to adjust the template or follower after
> the set shape was made, moving either of the two can greatly change the
> shape of the part, so you need to be careful. (this is why I use a mic. on
> my 200's template follower.) but you can do the same thing by using shims
> or making adjustable followers. (we will cover this idea latter.)
>
> PLAY as much as you can before "TRING" to make anything important to you.
> There is a learning curve that needs to be explored.
>
> LAST NOTE:  I am using these photos to help demonstrate the process. MY
> 1000ex, No longer look like it did when I bought it. Since my Modifications
> to it/adding linear rail.  My machine works the same way, but looks to
> different form the original, I hope my showing old photos will help others,
> start exploring the NEW Possibility's
> that template following offers.
> Good luck.
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 ONE LAST NOTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfgtlxe7X9s  This is NOT a 
Legacy video. but it clearly shows the power of the template and being able to 
follow one in OT/OM turning.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 01:02:44 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Hello Everyone.
I just got home form work.
Before I forget I did note on the shims and or bushings that can be used to 
make small changes in your template following.
Have anyone ever shimmed a grinder's, grinding wheel?  on the wheels arbor 
there are normally a set of plastic round shims so you can get your wheel trued 
up on a number of different sized shafts."Well" This is the idea. build up the 
bushing on the template follower . This way when you get to the size you want, 
you can remove one more small shim, making the follower  slightly smaller so 
you can adjust for the finer(finishing) detailed types of cutting.This is one 
method that I have used many times over the years.  
Legacy made a number of adjustable template follower guides for there 
larger/production machines, and latter sold this follower to any one who wanted 
there new Z axis on there Legacy's.The MAIN IDEA is to gain more control of the 
movement of the follower, (Again On my 200, I used a depth mic. to make the 
distance change.) I am putting three photos of different ways that I have tried 
to get this control done. ON the Front mounted template follower I used a 
router circle adjustment screw/arm to work as my adjustment. ON the middle pix. 
I used a set of large saw blades and a spring to maintain the tooth locking 
everything in place.I also made a plexy glass adjustable follower (but I can 
not find a photo at this time.)
Have a good night everyone.talk to you all more latter.
C.A.G.

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 03:38:24 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Good stuff  Curt.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Here are some step by step photos.As you can see in the first photo the 
templates are not very detailed, they need to be smooth and in the general 
shape of what you want to make, but the fine details are not there, those will 
have to be put in after the general shape has been turned.the 2,3 photos are 
aligning the router with the center of the work piece/center of the machine. 
form this point you lock the machine in place and then align the template to 
the machine.The last two photos are the Legacy cutting form the side, 1/2" 
straight router bit (a spiral bit cuts nicer then a straight flute carbide bit, 
but either will work.)The Y axis needs to move freely so it is touching the 
template while cutting. You will have to hold the router by hand while cutting, 
Make light cuts down the spindle to get to the depth of cut you want to 
make.NOTE: In My 200 video, I use a motor to turn the spindle. A hand crank 
will work just as fine as the motor. BUT, You can lock the indexing head in 
place and cut the blank locked in place as well, and just index the part over 
and over to reach to final shape. You may find this faster and less nerve 
racking at the very beginning of template work.Now the fun part. once the final 
shape has been reached. you can adjust the template follower slightly to make 
designs such as tapered rope cutting and any fine detail.NOTE: in the past I 
did not want to adjust the template or follower after the set shape was made, 
moving either of the two can greatly change the shape of the part, so you need 
to be careful. (this is why I use a mic. on my 200's template follower.) but 
you can do the same thing by using shims or making adjustable followers. (we 
will cover this idea latter.)
PLAY as much as you can before "TRING" to make anything important to you. There 
is a learning curve that needs to be explored.  
LAST NOTE:  I am using these photos to help demonstrate the process. MY 1000ex, 
No longer look like it did when I bought it. Since my Modifications to 
it/adding linear rail.  My machine works the same way, but looks to different 
form the original, I hope my showing old photos will help others, start 
exploring the NEW Possibility'sthat template following offers. Good luck.talk 
to you all more latter.
C.A.G. 



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Re: Using the Template follower on the Legacy Ornamental Mill

[Tim Ziegler]

Good stuff  Curt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 8:57 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Here are some step by step photos.
> As you can see in the first photo the templates are not very detailed,
> they need to be smooth and in the general shape of what you want to make,
> but the fine details are not there, those will have to be put in after the
> general shape has been turned.
> the 2,3 photos are aligning the router with the center of the work
> piece/center of the machine. form this point you lock the machine in place
> and then align the template to the machine.
> The last two photos are the Legacy cutting form the side, 1/2" straight
> router bit (a spiral bit cuts nicer then a straight flute carbide bit, but
> either will work.)
> The Y axis needs to move freely so it is touching the template while
> cutting. You will have to hold the router by hand while cutting, Make light
> cuts down the spindle to get to the depth of cut you want to make.
> *NOTE: *
> In My 200 video, I use a motor to turn the spindle. A hand crank will work
> just as fine as the motor.
> BUT, You can lock the indexing head in place and cut the blank locked in
> place as well, and just index the part over and over to reach to final
> shape. You may find this faster and less nerve racking at the very
> beginning of template work.
> Now the fun part. once the final shape has been reached. you can adjust
> the template follower slightly to make designs such as tapered rope cutting
> and any fine detail.
> NOTE: in the past I did not want to adjust the template or follower after
> the set shape was made, moving either of the two can greatly change the
> shape of the part, so you need to be careful. (this is why I use a mic. on
> my 200's template follower.) but you can do the same thing by using shims
> or making adjustable followers. (we will cover this idea latter.)
>
> PLAY as much as you can before "TRING" to make anything important to you.
> There is a learning curve that needs to be explored.
>
> LAST NOTE:  I am using these photos to help demonstrate the process. MY
> 1000ex, No longer look like it did when I bought it. Since my Modifications
> to it/adding linear rail.  My machine works the same way, but looks to
> different form the original, I hope my showing old photos will help others,
> start exploring the NEW Possibility's
> that template following offers.
> Good luck.
> talk to you all more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
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RE: template follower

[bulkeley]

Yes that Pie crust table really was something else I loved it 

And yes the template follower is the least used and such an untouched resource 

You are the man curt in that area

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2023 11:54 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: template follower

 

Hey there Bill!

 

I like to use templates on the Legacy. 

I also feel that the Template follower is one of the least used Tools on the 
LOM.

Zeke used a template to make his Pie crust table.  

(Yes its an old topic. but perhaps one that others might like to see.)

 https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/PieCrustTable.htm

 

Great topic Bill.

Thank you.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 06:57:13 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Oh and this is a captive template before anyone asks 

 

Bill 

 

 

 

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<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2023 10:40 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: template follower

 

 

Most of the things in your pic  apart from the template follower are in the 
downloadable user manual . with the template follower we have to go back to

Earlier mills for pics but the principle is the same, the template either metal 
or wood is mounted at the back of the mill the styles

either a ball bearing or solid follows either a captive or open  template and 
the router cuts from the side hope this helps. 

 

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of John Von Brandt
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2023 9:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: .50 set

 

Tim, off subject, but is there any pictures of these in use?

 

 

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 11:26 AM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Denson's .5 gear set 

 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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>
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:18 AM
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Re: template follower

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hey there Bill!
I like to use templates on the Legacy. I also feel that the Template follower 
is one of the least used Tools on the LOM.Zeke used a template to make his Pie 
crust table.  (Yes its an old topic. but perhaps one that others might like to 
see.) https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/PieCrustTable.htm
Great topic Bill.Thank you.
C.A.G.


On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 06:57:13 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
Oh and this is a captive template before anyone asks 

  

Bill 

  

  

  

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 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2023 10:40 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: template follower

  

  

Most of the things in your pic  apart from the template follower are in the 
downloadable user manual . with the template follower we have to go back to

Earlier mills for pics but the principle is the same, the template either metal 
or wood is mounted at the back of the mill the styles

either a ball bearing or solid follows either a captive or open  template and 
the router cuts from the side hope this helps. 

  

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of John Von Brandt
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2023 9:24 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: .50 set

  

Tim, off subject, but is there any pictures of these in use?

  

  

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 11:26 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:


Denson's .5 gear set 

  

  




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

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RE: template follower

[bulkeley]

Oh and this is a captive template before anyone asks 

 

Bill 

 

 

 

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Subject: template follower

 

 

Most of the things in your pic  apart from the template follower are in the 
downloadable user manual . with the template follower we have to go back to

Earlier mills for pics but the principle is the same, the template either metal 
or wood is mounted at the back of the mill the styles

either a ball bearing or solid follows either a captive or open  template and 
the router cuts from the side hope this helps. 

 

Bill

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Subject: Re: .50 set

 

Tim, off subject, but is there any pictures of these in use?

 

 

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 11:26 AM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Denson's .5 gear set 

 

 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

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320-630-2243 cell

 

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Re: template follower

[Jim Russell]

 Your explanation was right on(about being vague)! However, the videos did give 
me more information than I already had. Although the parts that I was given 
aren't even close to what was on the videos, I can figure out from here what to 
do with what I have.Thanks again! Jim

On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 09:10:56 AM PDT, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:  
 
  
Here is a part of a video showing it 
 
 
https://youtu.be/J3htO7uIOio?t=373
 
Then to see a few angles of the y-axis follower being used here is another video
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_QyBna7Ac
 
I am sure there will be somebody with the clock video for you.
 
Mike OK
 
 

 
 On 8/21/2022 10:47 PM, Dante5d wrote:
  
 I have found instructions on how to assemble the template follower, but 
nothing on how to use it. I have steel templates from Legacy for a clock, but 
nothing on how to use them. I'm stuck, can anyone walk me thru  the process on 
using the template follower? Respectfully, Dante5d
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Re: template follower

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

Here is a part of a video showing it

https://youtu.be/J3htO7uIOio?t=373

Then to see a few angles of the y-axis follower being used here is 
another video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_QyBna7Ac

I am sure there will be somebody with the clock video for you.

Mike OK


On 8/21/2022 10:47 PM, Dante5d wrote:
I have found instructions on how to assemble the template follower, 
but nothing on how to use it. I have steel templates from Legacy for a 
clock, but nothing on how to use them. I'm stuck, can anyone walk me 
thru  the process on using the template follower?

Respectfully,
Dante5d
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Re: template follower

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Dan
Template work on the Legacy (sadly) was not shown very much in any details. 
They said it could be done, and showed you the finished product ,or while it 
was working, but They/ Legacy , left a lot up to the user of there machine to 
figure out all the little details of them-self's.
For spindles. (this is how I do it.)

Alignment is the key, and needs to be dealt with first.The idea is where the 
follower touches the template is the point where the router bit will touch the 
part/wood.
the way I start is, on my templates, I always mark where the center line is. 
Then I mark or make sure this line matches up with the Legacy's center (center 
point the part turn on, Head and talk stock center point.) 
Now how do I use it?  I have a motor drive on my Legacy.  I use the motor to 
push the X axis, I use the follower connected to the Y axis to control the in 
and out movement by hand.
Like everything in wood working, And with/on the Legacy, you need to go slow 
and take LOTS of light cuts. Trying to hog off lots of wood can be "Big" 
problems.
for most template work you are cutting form the side of the wood.  YOU need to 
make sure your stops are set, so the router bit will not hit anything you don't 
want it to hit. (rails, head or tailstock...)
As a General rule of thumb. I never want to try to make something important to 
me at first attempt.  Use scrap wood, for testing. and "Play" with the machine 
as much as you can, to get the feel of how it works.
 As a General note: A MASTER has FAILED, more times then a Noves has ever 
tried. Don't be afraid to fail, sometimes by learning what not to do, will 
teach you more then Just knowing how you did it in the past...
Back to the templets: make light cuts, do not try to make deep cut. nibble the 
wood away in multiple cuts, on one large one.
When working on flat work/ moldings, The same notes are true, but instead of 
the center line being your focus point, you must align the part and the 
template to start from, and end at, when making the cuts.
In Legacy clock video, they trapped the follower inside the template so it 
could only follow the path of the cut.
https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/PieCrustTable.htm  (Zeke used a 
template to make this table a few years ago.


I personally have been wanting to re-design my Legacy templet follower (Again), 
and make an entirely different type of template follower. On that the follower 
would sit directly under the part.  But that's just me, and my wants.
I wish you luck on your ventures.  Please let us know how it turns out for you.
C.A.G.


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 wrote:  
 
 I have found instructions on how to assemble the template follower, but 
nothing on how to use it. I have steel templates from Legacy for a clock, but 
nothing on how to use them. I'm stuck, can anyone walk me thru  the process on 
using the template follower?Respectfully,Dante5d


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template follower

[Dante5d]

I have found instructions on how to assemble the template follower, but 
nothing on how to use it. I have steel templates from Legacy for a clock, 
but nothing on how to use them. I'm stuck, can anyone walk me thru  the 
process on using the template follower?
Respectfully,
Dante5d

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Re: Front mounted template follower Part 2

[Dan Krager]

Pretty cool, Curt.  
DanK


On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 1:00:26 AM UTC-4 aussiman wrote:

> Nice work curt good to see your template follower in action again
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 July 2022 10:21 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Front mounted template follower Part 2
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
>  
>
> I have the day off, So I was able to play in the shop today.
>
> I used my front mounted template follower today.  AND Over all I am happy 
> with
>
> what I was able to turn, today.
>
>  
>
> Note: the front mounted template follower can be made and adapted to ANY 
> Legacy (LOM) mill.
>
> my machine looks different form what Legacy sold, but it all works on the 
> same principles.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
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RE: Front mounted template follower Part 2

[bulkeley]

Nice work curt good to see your template follower in action again

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2022 10:21 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Front mounted template follower Part 2

 

Hello Everyone.

 

I have the day off, So I was able to play in the shop today.

I used my front mounted template follower today.  AND Over all I am happy with

what I was able to turn, today.

 

Note: the front mounted template follower can be made and adapted to ANY Legacy 
(LOM) mill.

my machine looks different form what Legacy sold, but it all works on the same 
principles.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Front mounted template follower Part 2

[Ccm Ccm]

Curt, nice work

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> I have the day off, So I was able to play in the shop today.
> I used my front mounted template follower today.  AND Over all I am happy
> with
> what I was able to turn, today.
>
> Note: the front mounted template follower can be made and adapted to ANY
> Legacy (LOM) mill.
> my machine looks different form what Legacy sold, but it all works on the
> same principles.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Front mounted template follower Part 2

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks for clarification on that Curt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Tim
>
> OK. Not quite.   I am using the template follower to add the details to
> the turning, NOT to make the hole turning its self.
>
> I find the best way to use the Legacy, is to use it as part of the process
> of fabricating, It is NOT the one step, End-All-Be-All machine.
>
> I have made all my machinery in my shop uniformed.
> "That is", I can go form one machine to another, and then sometimes go to
> a third machine if needed, to get the best form all that I own.
>
> The Legacy is a VERY Good machine, but it is not the best of "ALL"
> machines.
> I believe that this is why Legacy with with the CNC version, and got rid
> of the manual machines all together.
>
> People today want the best equipment, and the Best quality of product
> being made. but they don't want to take the time that is needed to become a
> skilled tradesman.
>
> I try to get the best form what I have.
> I personally would not TRY to make something like this, 100% on the
> Legacy.
>
> I find for speed, the wood lathe is much better for making
> spindle/turnings , The Legacy can do things that I could never do on the
> Lathe. And even my steel lathe can do some things that nether of the others
> could do, easily by them self's. So for most of what I make, I use "ALL" of
> machine to get the best that I can .
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 08:30:11 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wow if you just did that piece with your follower thats pretty impressive.
> What type of wood and what bits did you use?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I have the day off, So I was able to play in the shop today.
> I used my front mounted template follower today.  AND Over all I am happy
> with
> what I was able to turn, today.
>
> Note: the front mounted template follower can be made and adapted to ANY
> Legacy (LOM) mill.
> my machine looks different form what Legacy sold, but it all works on the
> same principles.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Front mounted template follower Part 2

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Tim
OK. Not quite.   I am using the template follower to add the details to the 
turning, NOT to make the hole turning its self.
I find the best way to use the Legacy, is to use it as part of the process of 
fabricating, It is NOT the one step, End-All-Be-All machine.
I have made all my machinery in my shop uniformed. "That is", I can go form one 
machine to another, and then sometimes go to a third machine if needed, to get 
the best form all that I own.
The Legacy is a VERY Good machine, but it is not the best of "ALL" machines. I 
believe that this is why Legacy with with the CNC version, and got rid of the 
manual machines all together.
People today want the best equipment, and the Best quality of product being 
made. but they don't want to take the time that is needed to become a skilled 
tradesman. 
I try to get the best form what I have.  I personally would not TRY to make 
something like this, 100% on the Legacy.  
I find for speed, the wood lathe is much better for making spindle/turnings , 
The Legacy can do things that I could never do on the Lathe. And even my steel 
lathe can do some things that nether of the others could do, easily by them 
self's. So for most of what I make, I use "ALL" of machine to get the best that 
I can .
C.A.G.On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 08:30:11 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Wow if you just did that piece with your follower thats pretty impressive. 
What type of wood and what bits did you use?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.
I have the day off, So I was able to play in the shop today.I used my front 
mounted template follower today.  AND Over all I am happy withwhat I was able 
to turn, today.
Note: the front mounted template follower can be made and adapted to ANY Legacy 
(LOM) mill.my machine looks different form what Legacy sold, but it all works 
on the same principles.
C.A.G.

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Re: Front mounted template follower Part 2

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow if you just did that piece with your follower thats pretty impressive.
What type of wood and what bits did you use?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> I have the day off, So I was able to play in the shop today.
> I used my front mounted template follower today.  AND Over all I am happy
> with
> what I was able to turn, today.
>
> Note: the front mounted template follower can be made and adapted to ANY
> Legacy (LOM) mill.
> my machine looks different form what Legacy sold, but it all works on the
> same principles.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: New Front mounted template follower

[Tim Ziegler]

hey Bill,
Might as well make a few more additions to it too lol. not sure what,
maybe a lathe duplicator? lol
Talk more later.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 10:41 PM  wrote:

> You know Tim I don’t know I didn’t check lol,
>
> I only needed a foot for what I want to do I didn’t think about other
> longer jobs
>
> I will have to check that when I’m in the shop next, I do have to modify
> the old burnt tool rest and tail stock
>
> From the burnt lathe too my nova lathe ones wont fit on the extension if I
> use the full length guess I haven’t finished it yet lol
>
> Its your fault Tim bringing the long length to my attention lololol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 6 June 2022 5:38 AM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: New Front mounted template follower
>
>
>
> Hey Bill,
>
>
>
> Yes that new coat of paint makes it look brand new. Now you need to paint
> the lathe the same color.
>
> Excellent job to I might add.
>
> How long can you turn now?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 3:22 AM  wrote:
>
> Me I spent a few freezing hours out in my shop fitting a bed extension to
> my wood lathe
>
> It’s completely different but for what I want to do it will be fine it was
> a spare I had laying around the
>
> Shop off a lathe that burnt. It cleaned up ok amazing what a coat of paint
> will do lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:59 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: New Front mounted template follower
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
> Yup sounds like a good Sunday afternoon project.
>
> Have a good night. I played on my REVO HYBRID EXT tonight.
>
> nothing fancy but turned a spindle no less just because I had the bug lol .
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 9:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim
>
>
>
> My goal is to make this styles/guide pin, so it will have another pin
> screwed in the center, where then other sized bearings or bushing can be
> mounted on to it, giving me different sizes of followers to match the
> router bits dia. sorta like a multi stepped router bit.
>
>
>
> I have made many of my templates with the center line on the template, the
> idea is to line up the center line of the template with the center line  of
> the Legacy. by lining up the two centers should make it easy to keep
> everything uniformed.  My bigger problem now is finding more side cutting
> router bit for the work I want to make.  "O"Well that's a problem for
> tomorrow. ;-)
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:20:01 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what
> you did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even more
>
> diverse in different width bits. Or of course have more then one tracing
> pin at different sizes.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to
> work. Its rock solid,
>
> fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.
>
>
>
> The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is
> to have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is
> moved by the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage.
>
>
>
> Legacy desi

RE: New Front mounted template follower

[bulkeley]

You know Tim I don’t know I didn’t check lol,

I only needed a foot for what I want to do I didn’t think about other longer 
jobs

I will have to check that when I’m in the shop next, I do have to modify the 
old burnt tool rest and tail stock

>From the burnt lathe too my nova lathe ones wont fit on the extension if I use 
>the full length guess I haven’t finished it yet lol

Its your fault Tim bringing the long length to my attention lololol 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2022 5:38 AM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: New Front mounted template follower

 

Hey Bill,

 

Yes that new coat of paint makes it look brand new. Now you need to paint the 
lathe the same color. 

Excellent job to I might add. 

How long can you turn now?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 3:22 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Me I spent a few freezing hours out in my shop fitting a bed extension to my 
wood lathe

It’s completely different but for what I want to do it will be fine it was a 
spare I had laying around the 

Shop off a lathe that burnt. It cleaned up ok amazing what a coat of paint will 
do lol

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:59 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: New Front mounted template follower

 

Hey Curt, 

Yup sounds like a good Sunday afternoon project. 

Have a good night. I played on my REVO HYBRID EXT tonight. 

nothing fancy but turned a spindle no less just because I had the bug lol .




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 9:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim

 

My goal is to make this styles/guide pin, so it will have another pin screwed 
in the center, where then other sized bearings or bushing can be mounted on to 
it, giving me different sizes of followers to match the router bits dia. sorta 
like a multi stepped router bit.

 

I have made many of my templates with the center line on the template, the idea 
is to line up the center line of the template with the center line  of the 
Legacy. by lining up the two centers should make it easy to keep everything 
uniformed.  My bigger problem now is finding more side cutting router bit for 
the work I want to make.  "O"Well that's a problem for tomorrow. ;-)

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:20:01 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what you 
did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even more

diverse in different width bits. Or of course have more then one tracing pin at 
different sizes.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone.

It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to work. Its 
rock solid,

fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.

 

The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is to 
have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is moved by 
the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage. 

 

Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found in 
the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the follower 
was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a few years ago. 
I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could be used on my 
Legacy.

  

So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not needed 
So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install when needed. 
so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)

 

This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group to 
start thinking? 

There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the Legacy.

 

More latter.

 

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RE: New Front mounted template follower

[bulkeley]

I like these curt nice work

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2022 3:55 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Front mounted template follower

 

I like it Bill

 

I had to do something similar a few years ago on my S.S. 

 

I was able to get some rough work done with the template follower today.

Two different templates, from the left to right,  and 8 start 1/4" stright 
router bit, from the side, A 2 start with a 3/4" slot cutter from the side, a 4 
start  with a 1/2" beading bit from the side,  and the same bit reading 4 
indexes.

none turned out 100% the way I wanted them to be, but all were just a part of 
"THE learning curve"

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 04:22:08 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Me I spent a few freezing hours out in my shop fitting a bed extension to my 
wood lathe

It’s completely different but for what I want to do it will be fine it was a 
spare I had laying around the 

Shop off a lathe that burnt. It cleaned up ok amazing what a coat of paint will 
do lol

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:59 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: New Front mounted template follower

 

Hey Curt, 

Yup sounds like a good Sunday afternoon project. 

Have a good night. I played on my REVO HYBRID EXT tonight. 

nothing fancy but turned a spindle no less just because I had the bug lol .




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 9:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim

 

My goal is to make this styles/guide pin, so it will have another pin screwed 
in the center, where then other sized bearings or bushing can be mounted on to 
it, giving me different sizes of followers to match the router bits dia. sorta 
like a multi stepped router bit.

 

I have made many of my templates with the center line on the template, the idea 
is to line up the center line of the template with the center line  of the 
Legacy. by lining up the two centers should make it easy to keep everything 
uniformed.  My bigger problem now is finding more side cutting router bit for 
the work I want to make.  "O"Well that's a problem for tomorrow. ;-)

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G. 

 

On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:20:01 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what you 
did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even more

diverse in different width bits. Or of course have more then one tracing pin at 
different sizes.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone.

It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to work. Its 
rock solid,

fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.

 

The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is to 
have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is moved by 
the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage. 

 

Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found in 
the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the follower 
was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a few years ago. 
I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could be used on my 
Legacy.

  

So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not needed 
So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install when needed. 
so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)

 

This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group to 
start thinking? 

There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the Legacy.

 

More latter.

 

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Re: New Front mounted template follower

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Bill,

Yes that new coat of paint makes it look brand new. Now you need to paint
the lathe the same color.
Excellent job to I might add.
How long can you turn now?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 3:22 AM  wrote:

> Me I spent a few freezing hours out in my shop fitting a bed extension to
> my wood lathe
>
> It’s completely different but for what I want to do it will be fine it was
> a spare I had laying around the
>
> Shop off a lathe that burnt. It cleaned up ok amazing what a coat of paint
> will do lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:59 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: New Front mounted template follower
>
>
>
> Hey Curt,
>
> Yup sounds like a good Sunday afternoon project.
>
> Have a good night. I played on my REVO HYBRID EXT tonight.
>
> nothing fancy but turned a spindle no less just because I had the bug lol .
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 9:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim
>
>
>
> My goal is to make this styles/guide pin, so it will have another pin
> screwed in the center, where then other sized bearings or bushing can be
> mounted on to it, giving me different sizes of followers to match the
> router bits dia. sorta like a multi stepped router bit.
>
>
>
> I have made many of my templates with the center line on the template, the
> idea is to line up the center line of the template with the center line  of
> the Legacy. by lining up the two centers should make it easy to keep
> everything uniformed.  My bigger problem now is finding more side cutting
> router bit for the work I want to make.  "O"Well that's a problem for
> tomorrow. ;-)
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:20:01 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what
> you did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even more
>
> diverse in different width bits. Or of course have more then one tracing
> pin at different sizes.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to
> work. Its rock solid,
>
> fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.
>
>
>
> The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is
> to have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is
> moved by the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage.
>
>
>
> Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found
> in the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the
> follower was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a
> few years ago. I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could
> be used on my Legacy.
>
>
>
> So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not
> needed So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install
> when needed. so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)
>
>
>
> This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group
> to start thinking?
>
> There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the
> Legacy.
>
>
>
> More latter.
>
>
>
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Re: New Front mounted template follower

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Never stop! You never know what you will make and or learn.
Enjoy!
C.A.G.
On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:59:15 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Curt, Yup sounds like a good Sunday afternoon project. Have a good night. 
I played on my REVO HYBRID EXT tonight. nothing fancy but turned a spindle no 
less just because I had the bug lol .
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 9:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hi Tim
My goal is to make this styles/guide pin, so it will have another pin screwed 
in the center, where then other sized bearings or bushing can be mounted on to 
it, giving me different sizes of followers to match the router bits dia. sorta 
like a multi stepped router bit.
I have made many of my templates with the center line on the template, the idea 
is to line up the center line of the template with the center line  of the 
Legacy. by lining up the two centers should make it easy to keep everything 
uniformed.  My bigger problem now is finding more side cutting router bit for 
the work I want to make.  "O"Well that's a problem for tomorrow. ;-)
Have a good night.
C.A.G. 
On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:20:01 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what you 
did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even morediverse in different width bits. 
Or of course have more then one tracing pin at different sizes.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello everyone.It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template 
follower to work. Its rock solid,fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates 
well.
The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is to 
have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is moved by 
the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage. 
Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found in 
the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the follower 
was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a few years ago. 
I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could be used on my 
Legacy.  So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when 
not needed So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install 
when needed. so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)
This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group to 
start thinking? There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template 
with the Legacy.
More latter. 

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Re: New Front mounted template follower

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt,
Yup sounds like a good Sunday afternoon project.
Have a good night. I played on my REVO HYBRID EXT tonight.
nothing fancy but turned a spindle no less just because I had the bug lol .

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 9:39 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim
>
> My goal is to make this styles/guide pin, so it will have another pin
> screwed in the center, where then other sized bearings or bushing can be
> mounted on to it, giving me different sizes of followers to match the
> router bits dia. sorta like a multi stepped router bit.
>
> I have made many of my templates with the center line on the template, the
> idea is to line up the center line of the template with the center line  of
> the Legacy. by lining up the two centers should make it easy to keep
> everything uniformed.  My bigger problem now is finding more side cutting
> router bit for the work I want to make.  "O"Well that's a problem for
> tomorrow. ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:20:01 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what
> you did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even more
> diverse in different width bits. Or of course have more then one tracing
> pin at different sizes.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
> It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to
> work. Its rock solid,
> fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.
>
> The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is
> to have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is
> moved by the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage.
>
> Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found
> in the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the
> follower was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a
> few years ago. I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could
> be used on my Legacy.
>
> So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not
> needed So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install
> when needed. so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)
>
> This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group
> to start thinking?
> There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the
> Legacy.
>
> More latter.
>
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Re: New Front mounted template follower

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hi Tim
My goal is to make this styles/guide pin, so it will have another pin screwed 
in the center, where then other sized bearings or bushing can be mounted on to 
it, giving me different sizes of followers to match the router bits dia. sorta 
like a multi stepped router bit.
I have made many of my templates with the center line on the template, the idea 
is to line up the center line of the template with the center line  of the 
Legacy. by lining up the two centers should make it easy to keep everything 
uniformed.  My bigger problem now is finding more side cutting router bit for 
the work I want to make.  "O"Well that's a problem for tomorrow. ;-)
Have a good night.
C.A.G. 
On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 10:20:01 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what you 
did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even morediverse in different width bits. 
Or of course have more then one tracing pin at different sizes.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello everyone.It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template 
follower to work. Its rock solid,fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates 
well.
The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is to 
have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is moved by 
the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage. 
Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found in 
the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the follower 
was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a few years ago. 
I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could be used on my 
Legacy.  So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when 
not needed So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install 
when needed. so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)
This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group to 
start thinking? There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template 
with the Legacy.
More latter. 

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Re: New Front mounted template follower

[Tim Ziegler]

pretty innovative Curt, Now if you did a step tracing pin similar to what
you did but add 3 or 4 steps you would be even more
diverse in different width bits. Or of course have more then one tracing
pin at different sizes.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to
> work. Its rock solid,
> fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.
>
> The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is
> to have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is
> moved by the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage.
>
> Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found
> in the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the
> follower was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a
> few years ago. I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could
> be used on my Legacy.
>
> So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not
> needed So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install
> when needed. so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)
>
> This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group
> to start thinking?
> There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the
> Legacy.
>
> More latter.
>
>
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Re: New Front mounted template follower

[Ccm Ccm]

Very innovative

On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to
> work. Its rock solid,
> fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.
>
> The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is
> to have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is
> moved by the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage.
>
> Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found
> in the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the
> follower was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a
> few years ago. I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could
> be used on my Legacy.
>
> So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not
> needed So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install
> when needed. so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)
>
> This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group
> to start thinking?
> There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the
> Legacy.
>
> More latter.
>
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Re: New Front mounted template follower

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hi Dan
Not at this moment. the styles is solidly mounted, 1/2" rod. Latter I do plan 
to make other adaptors to cover a wide range of bits. but at this time, its 
what you see is what you get.  For the time being, I plan to add details to the 
work like roping on a curve and fluting. As I see it, the styles is just a 
pointer or a limit to where the router can and can not go.  (I do know that its 
more then that. But as least for the time being, this is my starting place or 
point, and not the finish-line to this concept. I'm a long way form being done 
with this. )   ;-) thank you.
C.A.G.On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 06:25:38 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Looks great curt, do you have a way of changing styles dia  to match the dia of 
the router bit your using?

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 7:28 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: New Front mounted template follower

  

Hello everyone.

It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to work. Its 
rock solid,

fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.

  

The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is to 
have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is moved by 
the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage. 

  

Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found in 
the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the follower 
was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a few years ago. 
I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could be used on my 
Legacy.

  

So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not needed 
So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install when needed. 
so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)

  

This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group to 
start thinking? 

There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the Legacy.

  

More latter.

 

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Re: New Front mounted template follower

[Dan Krager]

Ingenious use of existing resources!  
DanK

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 5:28:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to 
> work. Its rock solid,
> fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.
>
> The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is 
> to have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is 
> moved by the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage. 
>
> Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found 
> in the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the 
> follower was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a 
> few years ago. I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could 
> be used on my Legacy.
>   
> So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not 
> needed So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install 
> when needed. so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)
>
> This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group 
> to start thinking? 
> There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the 
> Legacy.
>
> More latter.
>  
>

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RE: New Front mounted template follower

[bulkeley]

Looks great curt, do you have a way of changing styles dia  to match the dia of 
the router bit your using?

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2022 7:28 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: New Front mounted template follower

 

Hello everyone.

It may not looks like much. but I finally got my template follower to work. Its 
rock solid,

fully adjustable, and holds 1/4" templates well.

 

The trick to use the template follower on the Legacy that I have found, is to 
have the template follower only control the Y axis, and the X axis is moved by 
the acme screw/ motor to move the carriage. 

 

Legacy design was to have the follower in the back of the machine, I found in 
the past, it was much easer to control the template movement if the follower 
was in front of the machine.  Since I re-designed my machine, a few years ago. 
I needed to change and adapt the follower so it again could be used on my 
Legacy.

  

So Yes a template follower in front can and will get in the way when not needed 
So I made this, follower is easy to remove and quick to re-install when needed. 
so now you see it, latter you wont. ;-)

 

This may not be for everyone, but it just might help others in our group to 
start thinking? 

There are lots of possibility's out there for using a template with the Legacy.

 

More latter.

 

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Re: The Legacy template follower?

[Tim Ziegler]

I think it sounds like a good idea, I think mounting the templates could
be as simple as the ShopSmith actually or mine on my big lathe has a slot
with multiple wing nuts. I have the Vega. Do you have any LOM rail? you
could
make a nice system using that?
My biggest concern is getting it all to travel free enough to make it
functional.
I do not think using the drive is a very good idea as it tends to blind and
catch too much.
For sure linear bearings?? which you have so? Lets see where it goes.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 6:50 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> HI Tim
>
> Making a new template follower is my goal.
> I'm not sure how or what I will change to do so. My template follower that
> I made is pretty neat already, I  used Uni-strut and ran it through my
> rails. T bolts hold it onto the Extruded alum. I made it so my templates
> were in the front of the Legacy not in the back. I find it easer to control
> this way.
>
>  I just need to work out some better way of mounting the templates. and
> making sure that the centerline of the template is the same as the center
> of the Legacy.
>
> knowing that, What do you think of this idea?
>
> Ive been playing with the idea of making a new template following router
> bit,  and remounting the templates directly under the part being cut. that
> way the router its self would hold the bit making the linkage short, thus
> less play to work with.  As I said this is just an idea. Im thinking a
> cross between a very long pattern cutting bit and a boring bar used on a
> steel lathe. perhaps making it have interchangeable cutting profiles , like
> a shaper of molding cutter has.
> Again just some ideas floating around in my head. ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021, 07:12:29 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt if you can get something modified so it follows a template as
> smooth
> as the Weing Grinders I spent more then 20 years grinding tooling on I'm
> all for it.
> I also had a Terrco Carver that floated super smooth. Thats what I would
> see in the
> future of making it better.
> the problem of course is getting left and right to flow with in and out.
> I'd say lets go for it.
> I know I have a lot of duplicating to do in the future that is all done on
> my lathe duplicator
> but I can see this could be interesting.
> I certainly think the template need to be in front where you can see it
> and follow it easier.
>
> Lets see what you can come up with.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:54 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> Just wondering if any of you were looking at using the template follower
> any time in the neat future?
>
> I've been playing with the idea of re-making my follower again. (for the
> 4th or 5th time.)
>
> The Template follower was something Legacy talked about, but never went
> into any details on.
>
> *NOTE: I said Legacy, Phantom (woodchuck) made a video on this topic that
> was very interesting.*
>
> But Once the Newer machine came around, they never re-made there videos on
> this topic.
> I think  this was done for the main reason was to stop people form getting
> confused on the topic, template following suggest something more, Like a
> copy lathe, or lathe duplicator, which Legacy is not.
>
> Form my own experience this is what I found.
>
> I believe that the template is a guide/blue print of sorts, that will get
> you to the rough shape you are looking to make. but It will not make an
> exact copy. for a number of reasons,
> But instead of Looking at what it will "*not do".* I want to look at what
> is possible to use it for on the Legacy.
>
> Things like fine detailed cutting form the side of the work, like reeding
> and fluting, the template controls the depth of cut better then any router
> bearing will ever do on the Legacy.  Bearing guides are nice and simple,
> but it seam's to all to often the bearing fall into a grove already made
> form a previse cut, ruining your part. Once the Legacy's template is set
> up, this problem can not happen. (or shouldn't happen, I don't want to
> challenge anyone to, purposely mess up. to just try to prove me wrong.) ;-p
>
> Router fence/systems for the router table, Lik

Re: The Legacy template follower?

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 HI Tim
Making a new template follower is my goal. I'm not sure how or what I will 
change to do so. My template follower that I made is pretty neat already, I  
used Uni-strut and ran it through my rails. T bolts hold it onto the Extruded 
alum. I made it so my templates were in the front of the Legacy not in the 
back. I find it easer to control this way.
 I just need to work out some better way of mounting the templates. and making 
sure that the centerline of the template is the same as the center of the 
Legacy.
knowing that, What do you think of this idea?
Ive been playing with the idea of making a new template following router bit,  
and remounting the templates directly under the part being cut. that way the 
router its self would hold the bit making the linkage short, thus less play to 
work with.  As I said this is just an idea. Im thinking a cross between a very 
long pattern cutting bit and a boring bar used on a steel lathe. perhaps making 
it have interchangeable cutting profiles , like a shaper of molding cutter 
has.Again just some ideas floating around in my head. ;-)
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 14, 2021, 07:12:29 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Curt if you can get something modified so it follows a template as 
smoothas the Weing Grinders I spent more then 20 years grinding tooling on I'm 
all for it. I also had a Terrco Carver that floated super smooth. Thats what I 
would see in the future of making it better.the problem of course is getting 
left and right to flow with in and out. I'd say lets go for it. I know I have a 
lot of duplicating to do in the future that is all done on my lathe duplicator 
but I can see this could be interesting. I certainly think the template need to 
be in front where you can see it and follow it easier. 
Lets see what you can come up with. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:54 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello everyone.
Just wondering if any of you were looking at using the template follower any 
time in the neat future?
I've been playing with the idea of re-making my follower again. (for the 4th or 
5th time.) 
The Template follower was something Legacy talked about, but never went into 
any details on.
NOTE: I said Legacy, Phantom (woodchuck) made a video on this topic that was 
very interesting.
But Once the Newer machine came around, they never re-made there videos on this 
topic.I think  this was done for the main reason was to stop people form 
getting confused on the topic, template following suggest something more, Like 
a copy lathe, or lathe duplicator, which Legacy is not.
Form my own experience this is what I found.
I believe that the template is a guide/blue print of sorts, that will get you 
to the rough shape you are looking to make. but It will not make an exact copy. 
for a number of reasons,   But instead of Looking at what it will "not do". I 
want to look at what is possible to use it for on the Legacy.
Things like fine detailed cutting form the side of the work, like reeding and 
fluting, the template controls the depth of cut better then any router bearing 
will ever do on the Legacy.  Bearing guides are nice and simple, but it seam's 
to all to often the bearing fall into a grove already made form a previse cut, 
ruining your part. Once the Legacy's template is set up, this problem can not 
happen. (or shouldn't happen, I don't want to challenge anyone to, purposely 
mess up. to just try to prove me wrong.) ;-p
Router fence/systems for the router table, Like Joint tech. and Inca. worked 
out a better way to make a precision cuts, using a router table.  I'm thinking 
of something similar could be done for the Legacy.
So what I'm asking is, For all of you to voice out your ideas, on how to make a 
better Legacy template follower. 
I know collectively we all can make something new, that might work better then 
what we've got now.Let's hear your ideas on this topic.
Have a good weekend everyone.
C.A.G.  









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Re: The Legacy template follower?

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curt if you can get something modified so it follows a template as
smooth
as the Weing Grinders I spent more then 20 years grinding tooling on I'm
all for it.
I also had a Terrco Carver that floated super smooth. Thats what I would
see in the
future of making it better.
the problem of course is getting left and right to flow with in and out.
I'd say lets go for it.
I know I have a lot of duplicating to do in the future that is all done on
my lathe duplicator
but I can see this could be interesting.
I certainly think the template need to be in front where you can see it and
follow it easier.

Lets see what you can come up with.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:54 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> Just wondering if any of you were looking at using the template follower
> any time in the neat future?
>
> I've been playing with the idea of re-making my follower again. (for the
> 4th or 5th time.)
>
> The Template follower was something Legacy talked about, but never went
> into any details on.
>
> *NOTE: I said Legacy, Phantom (woodchuck) made a video on this topic that
> was very interesting.*
>
> But Once the Newer machine came around, they never re-made there videos on
> this topic.
> I think  this was done for the main reason was to stop people form getting
> confused on the topic, template following suggest something more, Like a
> copy lathe, or lathe duplicator, which Legacy is not.
>
> Form my own experience this is what I found.
>
> I believe that the template is a guide/blue print of sorts, that will get
> you to the rough shape you are looking to make. but It will not make an
> exact copy. for a number of reasons,
> But instead of Looking at what it will "*not do".* I want to look at what
> is possible to use it for on the Legacy.
>
> Things like fine detailed cutting form the side of the work, like reeding
> and fluting, the template controls the depth of cut better then any router
> bearing will ever do on the Legacy.  Bearing guides are nice and simple,
> but it seam's to all to often the bearing fall into a grove already made
> form a previse cut, ruining your part. Once the Legacy's template is set
> up, this problem can not happen. (or shouldn't happen, I don't want to
> challenge anyone to, purposely mess up. to just try to prove me wrong.) ;-p
>
> Router fence/systems for the router table, Like Joint tech. and Inca.
> worked out a better way to make a precision cuts, using a router table.
> I'm thinking of something similar could be done for the Legacy.
>
> So what I'm asking is, For all of you to voice out your ideas, on how to
> make a better Legacy template follower.
>
> I know collectively we all can make something new, that might work better
> then what we've got now.
> Let's hear your ideas on this topic.
>
> Have a good weekend everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: The Legacy template follower?

[bulkeley]

I agree on all points curt I’m just getting the ball rolling so to speak

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Legacy template follower?

 

HI Bill

 

Legacy did that on there clock molding. If I'm not mistaken?

I agree with you, but I don't think this is practical for most template work. 

On this topic I have more questions then answers. 

I'm hoping someone in the group may come up with something new/different form 
what we have 

done in the past?  I find for most problems all you need IS, A slightly 
different view of what is going on.

 

 

Mike has a quote that I like to use in these cases.

 

"Necessity is the Mother of ..." (everyone always, says  "All inventions". His 
reply is. )  No. Necessity is just a Mother! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Saturday, November 13, 2021, 05:57:21 PM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Trouble with template following on the legacy is saddle movement or slop

So I think a closed template mounted as close to the router bit as possible 
would be a good place to start also vertical following instead of horizontal 
would help too just my opinion

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2021 7:55 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: The Legacy template follower?

 

Hello everyone.

 

Just wondering if any of you were looking at using the template follower any 
time in the neat future?

 

I've been playing with the idea of re-making my follower again. (for the 4th or 
5th time.) 

 

The Template follower was something Legacy talked about, but never went into 
any details on.

 

NOTE: I said Legacy, Phantom (woodchuck) made a video on this topic that was 
very interesting.

 

But Once the Newer machine came around, they never re-made there videos on this 
topic.

I think  this was done for the main reason was to stop people form getting 
confused on the topic, template following suggest something more, Like a copy 
lathe, or lathe duplicator, which Legacy is not.

 

Form my own experience this is what I found.

 

I believe that the template is a guide/blue print of sorts, that will get you 
to the rough shape you are looking to make. but It will not make an exact copy. 
for a number of reasons,   

But instead of Looking at what it will "not do". I want to look at what is 
possible to use it for on the Legacy.

 

Things like fine detailed cutting form the side of the work, like reeding and 
fluting, the template controls the depth of cut better then any router bearing 
will ever do on the Legacy.  Bearing guides are nice and simple, but it seam's 
to all to often the bearing fall into a grove already made form a previse cut, 
ruining your part. Once the Legacy's template is set up, this problem can not 
happen. (or shouldn't happen, I don't want to challenge anyone to, purposely 
mess up. to just try to prove me wrong.) ;-p

 

Router fence/systems for the router table, Like Joint tech. and Inca. worked 
out a better way to make a precision cuts, using a router table.  I'm thinking 
of something similar could be done for the Legacy.

 

So what I'm asking is, For all of you to voice out your ideas, on how to make a 
better Legacy template follower. 

 

I know collectively we all can make something new, that might work better then 
what we've got now.

Let's hear your ideas on this topic.

 

Have a good weekend everyone.

 

C.A.G.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: The Legacy template follower?

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 HI Bill
Legacy did that on there clock molding. If I'm not mistaken?I agree with you, 
but I don't think this is practical for most template work. On this topic I 
have more questions then answers. I'm hoping someone in the group may come up 
with something new/different form what we have done in the past?  I find for 
most problems all you need IS, A slightly different view of what is going on.

Mike has a quote that I like to use in these cases.
"Necessity is the Mother of ..." (everyone always, says  "All inventions". His 
reply is. )  No. Necessity is just a Mother! ;-)
C.A.G.On Saturday, November 13, 2021, 05:57:21 PM EST, 
 wrote:  
 
 
Trouble with template following on the legacy is saddle movement or slop

So I think a closed template mounted as close to the router bit as possible 
would be a good place to start also vertical following instead of horizontal 
would help too just my opinion

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2021 7:55 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: The Legacy template follower?

  

Hello everyone.

  

Just wondering if any of you were looking at using the template follower any 
time in the neat future?

  

I've been playing with the idea of re-making my follower again. (for the 4th or 
5th time.) 

  

The Template follower was something Legacy talked about, but never went into 
any details on.

  

NOTE: I said Legacy, Phantom (woodchuck) made a video on this topic that was 
very interesting.

  

But Once the Newer machine came around, they never re-made there videos on this 
topic.

I think  this was done for the main reason was to stop people form getting 
confused on the topic, template following suggest something more, Like a copy 
lathe, or lathe duplicator, which Legacy is not.

  

Form my own experience this is what I found.

  

I believe that the template is a guide/blue print of sorts, that will get you 
to the rough shape you are looking to make. but It will not make an exact copy. 
for a number of reasons,   

But instead of Looking at what it will "not do". I want to look at what is 
possible to use it for on the Legacy.

  

Things like fine detailed cutting form the side of the work, like reeding and 
fluting, the template controls the depth of cut better then any router bearing 
will ever do on the Legacy.  Bearing guides are nice and simple, but it seam's 
to all to often the bearing fall into a grove already made form a previse cut, 
ruining your part. Once the Legacy's template is set up, this problem can not 
happen. (or shouldn't happen, I don't want to challenge anyone to, purposely 
mess up. to just try to prove me wrong.) ;-p

  

Router fence/systems for the router table, Like Joint tech. and Inca. worked 
out a better way to make a precision cuts, using a router table.  I'm thinking 
of something similar could be done for the Legacy.

  

So what I'm asking is, For all of you to voice out your ideas, on how to make a 
better Legacy template follower. 

  

I know collectively we all can make something new, that might work better then 
what we've got now.

Let's hear your ideas on this topic.

  

Have a good weekend everyone.

  

C.A.G.  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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RE: The Legacy template follower?

[bulkeley]

Trouble with template following on the legacy is saddle movement or slop

So I think a closed template mounted as close to the router bit as possible 
would be a good place to start also vertical following instead of horizontal 
would help too just my opinion

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2021 7:55 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: The Legacy template follower?

 

Hello everyone.

 

Just wondering if any of you were looking at using the template follower any 
time in the neat future?

 

I've been playing with the idea of re-making my follower again. (for the 4th or 
5th time.) 

 

The Template follower was something Legacy talked about, but never went into 
any details on.

 

NOTE: I said Legacy, Phantom (woodchuck) made a video on this topic that was 
very interesting.

 

But Once the Newer machine came around, they never re-made there videos on this 
topic.

I think  this was done for the main reason was to stop people form getting 
confused on the topic, template following suggest something more, Like a copy 
lathe, or lathe duplicator, which Legacy is not.

 

Form my own experience this is what I found.

 

I believe that the template is a guide/blue print of sorts, that will get you 
to the rough shape you are looking to make. but It will not make an exact copy. 
for a number of reasons,   

But instead of Looking at what it will "not do". I want to look at what is 
possible to use it for on the Legacy.

 

Things like fine detailed cutting form the side of the work, like reeding and 
fluting, the template controls the depth of cut better then any router bearing 
will ever do on the Legacy.  Bearing guides are nice and simple, but it seam's 
to all to often the bearing fall into a grove already made form a previse cut, 
ruining your part. Once the Legacy's template is set up, this problem can not 
happen. (or shouldn't happen, I don't want to challenge anyone to, purposely 
mess up. to just try to prove me wrong.) ;-p

 

Router fence/systems for the router table, Like Joint tech. and Inca. worked 
out a better way to make a precision cuts, using a router table.  I'm thinking 
of something similar could be done for the Legacy.

 

So what I'm asking is, For all of you to voice out your ideas, on how to make a 
better Legacy template follower. 

 

I know collectively we all can make something new, that might work better then 
what we've got now.

Let's hear your ideas on this topic.

 

Have a good weekend everyone.

 

C.A.G.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Legacy template follower?

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hello everyone.
Just wondering if any of you were looking at using the template follower any 
time in the neat future?
I've been playing with the idea of re-making my follower again. (for the 4th or 
5th time.) 
The Template follower was something Legacy talked about, but never went into 
any details on.
NOTE: I said Legacy, Phantom (woodchuck) made a video on this topic that was 
very interesting.
But Once the Newer machine came around, they never re-made there videos on this 
topic.I think  this was done for the main reason was to stop people form 
getting confused on the topic, template following suggest something more, Like 
a copy lathe, or lathe duplicator, which Legacy is not.
Form my own experience this is what I found.
I believe that the template is a guide/blue print of sorts, that will get you 
to the rough shape you are looking to make. but It will not make an exact copy. 
for a number of reasons,   But instead of Looking at what it will "not do". I 
want to look at what is possible to use it for on the Legacy.
Things like fine detailed cutting form the side of the work, like reeding and 
fluting, the template controls the depth of cut better then any router bearing 
will ever do on the Legacy.  Bearing guides are nice and simple, but it seam's 
to all to often the bearing fall into a grove already made form a previse cut, 
ruining your part. Once the Legacy's template is set up, this problem can not 
happen. (or shouldn't happen, I don't want to challenge anyone to, purposely 
mess up. to just try to prove me wrong.) ;-p
Router fence/systems for the router table, Like Joint tech. and Inca. worked 
out a better way to make a precision cuts, using a router table.  I'm thinking 
of something similar could be done for the Legacy.
So what I'm asking is, For all of you to voice out your ideas, on how to make a 
better Legacy template follower. 
I know collectively we all can make something new, that might work better then 
what we've got now.Let's hear your ideas on this topic.
Have a good weekend everyone.
C.A.G.  







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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

yes that would always work.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:19 PM  wrote:

> My suggestion is to do a drawing find a good piece of hardwood and make
> your own on your legacy mill
>
> Even add a bearing of the appropriate size if you’re worried about wear.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 December 2020 12:03 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
>
>
> So to get back to everyone in regards to the Stylus Pins. My Brother is
> not interested at this time in taking this project on
>
> as he is working countless hours of over time and cutting wood while there
> is no snow.
>
> So back to square one. I do have another machinest friend but afraid he
> may be way out on his prices. So open to some other suggestions
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:17 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> in regards to the follower pins, if you have one follower, could you just
> add bushings to that follower pin, to increase the diameter of the pin...
> or make one follower and add different diameter bushings to that...
> McMasterCarr has drill bushings of varying inside and outside diameters...
> only challenge would be to drill and tap each for a set screw... also easy
> way to go with 16th's diameters, if the need should ever arise to make a
> "kiss" cut on the workpiece... might make for an interesting project for
> those who don't have a metal lathe... Joe B.
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim,
>
>
>
> Will try getting his attention when he gets off work tonight or in the am.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM  wrote:
>
> Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into the
> aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z axis.
> There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as well.
>
>
>
> Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the photos
> handy.
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both
> the 931 and 934.
>
> We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the
> same hole
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from
> (aussieman were great.
>
>
>
> Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out in
> brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?
>
>
>
> Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the hole
> in the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to fit
> that hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>
> Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I
> would think. any I wou

Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

I agree we can still keep it running, and if others want me to keep
pursuing other options I can check with a couple of shops?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:14 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Thanks Tim.  I'm still interested in this topic.
>
> Ray
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:03 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>>
>> So to get back to everyone in regards to the Stylus Pins. My Brother is
>> not interested at this time in taking this project on
>> as he is working countless hours of over time and cutting wood while
>> there is no snow.
>> So back to square one. I do have another machinest friend but afraid he
>> may be way out on his prices. So open to some other suggestions
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:17 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> in regards to the follower pins, if you have one follower, could you
>>> just add bushings to that follower pin, to increase the diameter of the
>>> pin... or make one follower and add different diameter bushings to that...
>>> McMasterCarr has drill bushings of varying inside and outside diameters...
>>> only challenge would be to drill and tap each for a set screw... also easy
>>> way to go with 16th's diameters, if the need should ever arise to make a
>>> "kiss" cut on the workpiece... might make for an interesting project for
>>> those who don't have a metal lathe... Joe B.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Will try getting his attention when he gets off work tonight or in the
>>>> am.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into
>>>>> the aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z
>>>>> axis.  There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the
>>>>> photos handy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
>>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders
>>>>> both the 931 and 934.
>>>>>
>>>>> We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in
>>>>> the same hole
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>>
>>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>>
>>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>>
>>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>>>
>>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics
>>>>> from (aussieman were great.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them
>>>>> priced out in bra

RE: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[bulkeley]

My suggestion is to do a drawing find a good piece of hardwood and make your 
own on your legacy mill

Even add a bearing of the appropriate size if you’re worried about wear.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2020 12:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

 

So to get back to everyone in regards to the Stylus Pins. My Brother is not 
interested at this time in taking this project on

as he is working countless hours of over time and cutting wood while there is 
no snow. 

So back to square one. I do have another machinest friend but afraid he may be 
way out on his prices. So open to some other suggestions




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:17 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

in regards to the follower pins, if you have one follower, could you just add 
bushings to that follower pin, to increase the diameter of the pin... or make 
one follower and add different diameter bushings to that... McMasterCarr has 
drill bushings of varying inside and outside diameters... only challenge would 
be to drill and tap each for a set screw... also easy way to go with 16th's 
diameters, if the need should ever arise to make a "kiss" cut on the 
workpiece... might make for an interesting project for those who don't have a 
metal lathe... Joe B.

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com 
<mailto:timjz...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Thanks Tim,

 

Will try getting his attention when he gets off work tonight or in the am. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM mailto:artma...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into the 
aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z axis.  
There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as well.  

 

Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the photos handy. 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both the 931 
and 934. 

We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the same 
hole


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman mailto:vie...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from 
(aussieman were great.

 

Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out in 
brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?

 

Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the hole in 
the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to fit that 
hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?  

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I would 
think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal to 
acquire for me

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I would add a ¾ dia one too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> &

Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Ray Leaman]

Thanks Tim.  I'm still interested in this topic.

Ray

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:03 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

>
> So to get back to everyone in regards to the Stylus Pins. My Brother is
> not interested at this time in taking this project on
> as he is working countless hours of over time and cutting wood while there
> is no snow.
> So back to square one. I do have another machinest friend but afraid he
> may be way out on his prices. So open to some other suggestions
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:17 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> in regards to the follower pins, if you have one follower, could you just
>> add bushings to that follower pin, to increase the diameter of the pin...
>> or make one follower and add different diameter bushings to that...
>> McMasterCarr has drill bushings of varying inside and outside diameters...
>> only challenge would be to drill and tap each for a set screw... also easy
>> way to go with 16th's diameters, if the need should ever arise to make a
>> "kiss" cut on the workpiece... might make for an interesting project for
>> those who don't have a metal lathe... Joe B.
>>
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tim,
>>>
>>> Will try getting his attention when he gets off work tonight or in the
>>> am.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into
>>>> the aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z
>>>> axis.  There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the
>>>> photos handy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both
>>>> the 931 and 934.
>>>>
>>>> We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the
>>>> same hole
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>>
>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics
>>>> from (aussieman were great.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out
>>>> in brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the
>>>> hole in the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to
>>>> fit that hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork

Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

So to get back to everyone in regards to the Stylus Pins. My Brother is not
interested at this time in taking this project on
as he is working countless hours of over time and cutting wood while there
is no snow.
So back to square one. I do have another machinest friend but afraid he may
be way out on his prices. So open to some other suggestions

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 9:17 AM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> in regards to the follower pins, if you have one follower, could you just
> add bushings to that follower pin, to increase the diameter of the pin...
> or make one follower and add different diameter bushings to that...
> McMasterCarr has drill bushings of varying inside and outside diameters...
> only challenge would be to drill and tap each for a set screw... also easy
> way to go with 16th's diameters, if the need should ever arise to make a
> "kiss" cut on the workpiece... might make for an interesting project for
> those who don't have a metal lathe... Joe B.
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tim,
>>
>> Will try getting his attention when he gets off work tonight or in the
>> am.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into the
>>> aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z axis.
>>> There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the photos
>>> handy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both
>>> the 931 and 934.
>>>
>>> We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the
>>> same hole
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from
>>> (aussieman were great.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out
>>> in brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the
>>> hole in the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to
>>> fit that hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I
>>> would think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal
>>> to acquire for me
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>&

Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

['joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

in regards to the follower pins, if you have one follower, could you just 
add bushings to that follower pin, to increase the diameter of the pin... 
or make one follower and add different diameter bushings to that... 
McMasterCarr has drill bushings of varying inside and outside diameters... 
only challenge would be to drill and tap each for a set screw... also easy 
way to go with 16th's diameters, if the need should ever arise to make a 
"kiss" cut on the workpiece... might make for an interesting project for 
those who don't have a metal lathe... Joe B.

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
>
> Will try getting his attention when he gets off work tonight or in the am. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM  wrote:
>
>> Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into the 
>> aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z axis.  
>> There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as well.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the photos 
>> handy. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>
>>  
>>
>> yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both 
>> the 931 and 934. 
>>
>> We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the 
>> same hole
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from 
>> (aussieman were great.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out 
>> in brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the 
>> hole in the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to 
>> fit that hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I 
>> would think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal 
>> to acquire for me
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>
>>  
>>
>> thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I would add a ¾ dia one too
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegrou

Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Tim,

Will try getting his attention when he gets off work tonight or in the am.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 PM  wrote:

> Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into the
> aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z axis.
> There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as well.
>
>
>
> Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the photos
> handy.
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both
> the 931 and 934.
>
> We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the
> same hole
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from
> (aussieman were great.
>
>
>
> Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out in
> brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?
>
>
>
> Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the hole
> in the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to fit
> that hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>
> Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I
> would think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal
> to acquire for me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM  wrote:
>
> I would add a ¾ dia one too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a
> bit to get a response from my Brother he works nights
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM  wrote:
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
> check with him and have him price some.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What do you think a good set would include size w

RE: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[artmarbles]

Most of the index pins legacy sold are steel dowel pins pressed into the 
aluminum holder.  They were only used if you ordered the upgraded z axis.  
There was an updated follower designed that took those pins as well.  

 

Curt made a version for himself a long time ago. Maybe he has the photos handy. 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 7:18 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both the 931 
and 934. 

We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the same 
hole


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from 
(aussieman were great.

 

Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out in 
brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?

 

Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the hole in 
the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to fit that 
hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?  

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I would 
think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal to 
acquire for me

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I would add a ¾ dia one too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a bit 
to get a response from my Brother he works nights

 

Thanks Bill


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:



 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can check 
with him and have him price some.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a set of 
5 I think? Don't know sizes.

 

Ray

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for the 
styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

 

Ray

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RE: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[bulkeley]

Right

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 2:07 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from 
(aussieman were great.

 

Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out in 
brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?

 

Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the hole in 
the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to fit that 
hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?  

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I would 
think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal to 
acquire for me

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I would add a ¾ dia one too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a bit 
to get a response from my Brother he works nights

 

Thanks Bill


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:



 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can check 
with him and have him price some.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a set of 
5 I think? Don't know sizes.

 

Ray

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for the 
styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

 

Ray

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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

yes sir. I used stylus tracing pins for 20 years on Weing Grinders both the
931 and 934.
We matched the stylus to the grinding wheel we used and all went in the
same hole
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from
> (aussieman were great.
>
> Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out in
> brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?
>
> Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the hole
> in the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to fit
> that hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I
>>> would think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal
>>> to acquire for me
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> I would add a ¾ dia one too
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me
>>> a bit to get a response from my Brother he works nights
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Bill
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
>>> check with him and have him price some.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
>>> 

Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Ray Leaman]

Thanks Tim.  I just got back on and saw the stylus posts.  The pics from
(aussieman were great.

Couldn't get back to your post asking if we should have them priced out in
brass.  Would it hurt to price both materials (aluminum and brass)?

Also, you probably thought of it already but in order to fit into the hole
in the stylus adjustment plate the top of each stylus must be sized to fit
that hole regardless of the diameter of the lower section. Right?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM  wrote:
>
>> Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I
>> would think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal
>> to acquire for me
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I would add a ¾ dia one too
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>
>>
>>
>> There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a
>> bit to get a response from my Brother he works nights
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
>> check with him and have him price some.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
>> set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
>> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray
>>
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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

Hi Bob,

So you've been making your own too?
We are checking with my Brother to see if he'd make some for some of the
guys that don't do much
metal work but could use them on the LOM's

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 7:20 PM Bob Mark  wrote:

> Very nice stylus. Looks like the one I made, now to build some more.
> Christmas decorations are up time to hit the shop.
>
> Sent from Bob Mark's iPad
>
> On Nov 30, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
>> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>>
>> Ray
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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

Ok I put in a request for pricing from him stay tuned. ok
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:46 PM  wrote:

> Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I
> would think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal
> to acquire for me
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM  wrote:
>
> I would add a ¾ dia one too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a
> bit to get a response from my Brother he works nights
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM  wrote:
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
> check with him and have him price some.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
> set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.
>
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>
>
>
> Ray
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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Bob Mark]

Very nice stylus. Looks like the one I made, now to build some more. Christmas 
decorations are up time to hit the shop.

Sent from Bob Mark's iPad

> On Nov 30, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for 
>> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>> 
>> Ray
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RE: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[bulkeley]

Doesn’t really matter witch ever you like aluminum would be cheaper I would 
think. any I would make would be steel because it’s the easiest metal to 
acquire for me

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:39 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I would add a ¾ dia one too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a bit 
to get a response from my Brother he works nights

 

Thanks Bill


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:



 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can check 
with him and have him price some.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a set of 
5 I think? Don't know sizes.

 

Ray

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for the 
styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

 

Ray

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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

thanks Bill do we want them priced in Brass?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:35 PM  wrote:

> I would add a ¾ dia one too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a
> bit to get a response from my Brother he works nights
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM  wrote:
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
> check with him and have him price some.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
> set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.
>
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>
>
>
> Ray
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RE: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[bulkeley]

I would add a ¾ dia one too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 10:31 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a bit 
to get a response from my Brother he works nights

 

Thanks Bill


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:



 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can check 
with him and have him price some.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a set of 
5 I think? Don't know sizes.

 

Ray

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for the 
styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

 

Ray

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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

There we go I know someone would have all we need to make them. Give me a
bit to get a response from my Brother he works nights

Thanks Bill
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Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:43 PM  wrote:

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> Bill
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> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
> check with him and have him price some.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
> set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.
>
>
>
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
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> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>
>
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RE: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

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From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2020 9:03 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can check 
with him and have him price some.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a set of 
5 I think? Don't know sizes.

 

Ray

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for the 
styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

 

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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

Sounds good will do.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> I'll leave it in your  hands.
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:03 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
>> check with him and have him price some.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>>> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
>>> set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?

 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 shop
 320-630-2243 cell


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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

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I'll leave it in your  hands.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:03 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can
> check with him and have him price some.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
>> set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
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 for the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

 Ray

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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

Ray I am not sure.. If someone chimes in to what we should have I can check
with him and have him price some.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:01 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
> set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.
>
> Ray
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>>> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement
>>> for the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>>>
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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Ray Leaman]

What do you think a good set would include size wise? Cost? Legacy had a
set of 5 I think? Don't know sizes.

Ray

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:39 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
>> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>>
>> Ray
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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

That sounds pretty practical. I'm sure that would help a few out. Can you
post a couple pix of your work Bob?

Kind Regards,

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:27 PM Bob Mark  wrote:

> I needed a smaller one for some gears. I just turned down a piece of rod.
> Drilled a hole in a piece of aluminum and turns a knob shape on it. The
> aluminum part needs to be the same for all stylus sizes and just change the
> bore and rod diameters. If that helps any?
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 12:24 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
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>
>
>
> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>
>
>
> Ray
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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Tim Ziegler]

I have a brother that can make anything you could possibly want?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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Foreston MN 56330

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:24 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>
> Ray
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Re: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Ray Leaman]

I can see the logic of it.  My problem is not being able to turn a steel
rod down.  The aluminum I could probably do on my wood lathe.

So yes, it does help Bob.  Thanks.

Ray

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 3:27 PM Bob Mark  wrote:

> I needed a smaller one for some gears. I just turned down a piece of rod.
> Drilled a hole in a piece of aluminum and turns a knob shape on it. The
> aluminum part needs to be the same for all stylus sizes and just change the
> bore and rod diameters. If that helps any?
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 12:24 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Sources for the Template Follower Styluses
>
>
>
> Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
> the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?
>
>
>
> Ray
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RE: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Bob Mark]

I needed a smaller one for some gears. I just turned down a piece of rod. 
Drilled a hole in a piece of aluminum and turns a knob shape on it. The 
aluminum part needs to be the same for all stylus sizes and just change the 
bore and rod diameters. If that helps any?

 

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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

 

Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for the 
styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

 

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Sources for the Template Follower Styluses

[Ray Leaman]

Did anyone have any sources where we might get a suitable replacement for
the styluses we all lost or never had to begin with?

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Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Mac,
Whats your email address I have some info for you?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:41 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Great idea Bill.  I did not consider doing that.
> Thanks.
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 10:13 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
> Ok here’s a thing when making the larger ones use a bearing the same dia
> as the router bit it will follow the template easier and won’t wear because
> its rolling not sliding
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 1:57 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I think you're onto something in making your own.  But it does need to be
> a dese hard wood of which there are several.
>
>
>
> Ray
> --
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:00 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
> the legacy or wood lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
> adjustment plate.
>
>
>
> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>
>
>
> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>
>
>
> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY
> want all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories.
>
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Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

You never know Tracy,

some time you may have to repair an old piece and that may replicate
exactly what you want.
At least thats a good excuse to have them . lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:20 AM Tracy Smith  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing that Curt.
>
> I think I have the templates that are referred to on page 8.  They are a
> bit rusty and heavy. I wasn't too sure what they were for. I doubt I will
> ever use them though. It's nice to know what they are.\
>
> Thanks again,
> Tracy
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Ornamental mills mag. #7.pdf
>>
>> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:19:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey Curtis<
>>
>> I dont think I have that volume I only have about 3 of them that was all
>> I got when I bought my machine.
>> I was trying to show Ray a pic of them.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Tim
>> If the templates are wavy, they could be the swan-neck molding set?
>>
>> Look in the volume seven Ornamental mills magazine.   "Boy" do I miss
>> those paper magazines...! (Hot summer sale ends Sep 15 2005!) Where did the
>> time go?
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy
>> that are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>> What waves Tim?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
>> waves etc...
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
>> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
>> the legacy or wood lathe
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
>> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
>> exactly the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
>> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
>> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage l

RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[M.W.Foscue]

Great idea Bill.  I did not consider doing that.Thanks.Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 10:13 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

Ok here’s a thing when making the larger ones use a bearing the same dia as the router bit it will follow the template easier and won’t wear because its rolling not sliding  Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ray LeamanSent: Monday, 30 November 2020 1:57 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower I think you're onto something in making your own.  But it does need to be a dese hard wood of which there are several. Ray On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:00 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on the legacy or wood lathe BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower Bill,Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?Mac-Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be exactly the same. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ray LeamanSent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.  As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus adjustment plate. Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily. So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing. Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY want all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories. 




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Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tracy Smith]

Thanks for sharing that Curt.

I think I have the templates that are referred to on page 8.  They are a
bit rusty and heavy. I wasn't too sure what they were for. I doubt I will
ever use them though. It's nice to know what they are.\

Thanks again,
Tracy

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ornamental mills mag. #7.pdf
>
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:19:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curtis<
>
> I dont think I have that volume I only have about 3 of them that was all I
> got when I bought my machine.
> I was trying to show Ray a pic of them.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Tim
> If the templates are wavy, they could be the swan-neck molding set?
>
> Look in the volume seven Ornamental mills magazine.   "Boy" do I miss
> those paper magazines...! (Hot summer sale ends Sep 15 2005!) Where did the
> time go?
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that
> are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What waves Tim?
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
> waves etc...
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
> the legacy or wood lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
> adjustment plate.
>
>
>
> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>
>
>
> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>
>
>
> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY
> want all the pieces to complete the c

RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[bulkeley]

I agree 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Thanks Bill,

Good idea.  Not really necessary to be out of metal (the one I have is brass) 
unless, perhaps you are doing significant production work and can't afford for 
it to wear down - throwing the item being made out of tolerance.  Although, one 
should be able to turn one out of aluminum on the LOM (and brass too?) if you 
very carefully use a carbide cutter.

Mac

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 9:00 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower 




I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them made I 
wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on the legacy 
or wood lathe

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Bill,

Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower 




You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same dia as 
the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be exactly the same.

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.  As you 
can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While there is no 
dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like shows in the 
legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate with a plastic 
3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what you see in this 
picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel 
stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus adjustment plate.

 

Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's not a 
killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.

 

So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's laying 
around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is on the 
router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.

 

Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY want 
all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories.

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RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[M.W.Foscue]

Thanks Bill,Good idea.  Not really necessary to be out of metal (the one I have is brass) unless, perhaps you are doing significant production work and can't afford for it to wear down - throwing the item being made out of tolerance.  Although, one should be able to turn one out of aluminum on the LOM (and brass too?) if you very carefully use a carbide cutter.Mac-Original Message-
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 9:00 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on the legacy or wood lathe BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.FoscueSent: Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower Bill,Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?Mac-Original Message- From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be exactly the same. BillFrom: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ray LeamanSent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.  As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus adjustment plate. Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily. So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing. Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY want all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories.



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Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

i'm hitting the hay.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:55 PM  wrote:

> Closed template
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 2:46 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill exactly what I was trying to explain. Ray??
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:44 PM  wrote:
>
> [image: Template Rail Mounting Kit]
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 2:03 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that
> are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>
> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What waves Tim?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>
> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
> waves etc...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
> the legacy or wood lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
> adjustment plate.
>
>
>
> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>
>
>
> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>
>
>
> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY
> want all the pieces to complete the collection of acc

Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

bill sent it
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:47 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> That's the picture I remember.  Where did you get it?
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:44 PM  wrote:
>
>> [image: Template Rail Mounting Kit]
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 2:03 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>>
>> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy
>> that are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>>
>> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>> What waves Tim?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>>
>> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
>> waves etc...
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
>> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
>> the legacy or wood lathe
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
>> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
>> exactly the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
>> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
>> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
>> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
>> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
>> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
>> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
>> adjustment plate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
>> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
>> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
>> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is,
>> you REALLY want all the pieces to 

RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[bulkeley]

Closed template

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 2:46 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Thanks Bill exactly what I was trying to explain. Ray??


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:44 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:



 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 2:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that are 
wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at

explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What waves Tim?

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This might be another topic that we all could benefit from. 

I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the waves 
etc...


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them made I 
wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on the legacy 
or wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Bill,

Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower 

You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same dia as 
the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be exactly the same.

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.  As you 
can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While there is no 
dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like shows in the 
legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate with a plastic 
3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what you see in this 
picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel 
stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus adjustment plate.

 

Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's not a 
killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.

 

So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's laying 
around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is on the 
router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.

 

Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY want 
all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories. 

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RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[bulkeley]

Im trying not to do that other wise all this stuff all at once otherwise you 
all will never remember it all

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 2:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Ray did you see what Curtis just dropped in our laps




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:31 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I hope this works. Helps out...

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:30:14 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Ornamental mills mag. #7.pdf 

 

On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:19:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Curtis<

 

I dont think I have that volume I only have about 3 of them that was all I got 
when I bought my machine. 

I was trying to show Ray a pic of them. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hey Tim

If the templates are wavy, they could be the swan-neck molding set?

 

Look in the volume seven Ornamental mills magazine.   "Boy" do I miss those 
paper magazines...! (Hot summer sale ends Sep 15 2005!) Where did the time go?

 

C.A.G.

On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that are 
wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at

explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What waves Tim?

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This might be another topic that we all could benefit from. 

I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the waves 
etc...


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them made I 
wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on the legacy 
or wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Bill,

Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?

Mac


  _  


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From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower 



You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same dia as 
the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be exactly the same.

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.  As you 
can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While there is no 
dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like shows in the 
legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate with a plastic 
3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what you see in this 
picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel 
stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus adjustment plate.

 

Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's not a 
killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.

 

So I will

Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Ray Leaman]

That's the picture I remember.  Where did you get it?

Thanks guys.

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:44 PM  wrote:

> [image: Template Rail Mounting Kit]
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 2:03 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that
> are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>
> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What waves Tim?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>
> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
> waves etc...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
> the legacy or wood lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
> adjustment plate.
>
>
>
> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>
>
>
> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>
>
>
> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY
> want all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories.
>
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Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Bill exactly what I was trying to explain. Ray??
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:44 PM  wrote:

> [image: Template Rail Mounting Kit]
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 2:03 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that
> are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>
> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What waves Tim?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>
> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
> waves etc...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
> the legacy or wood lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
> adjustment plate.
>
>
>
> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>
>
>
> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>
>
>
> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY
> want all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories.
>
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RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[bulkeley]

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 2:03 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that are 
wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at

explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman mailto:view...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What waves Tim?

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This might be another topic that we all could benefit from. 

I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the waves 
etc...


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them made I 
wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on the legacy 
or wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Bill,

Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?

Mac


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower 



You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same dia as 
the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be exactly the same.

 

Bill


  _  


From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.  As you 
can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While there is no 
dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like shows in the 
legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate with a plastic 
3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what you see in this 
picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel 
stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus adjustment plate.

 

Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's not a 
killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.

 

So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's laying 
around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is on the 
router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.

 

Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY want 
all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories. 

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Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Ray Leaman]

Thanks Tim.

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:29 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> I have them and am pretty sure the other's posting today do. I could get a
> pic or two but not till tomorrow.  I was just looking through things and
> did not find them in my info.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:26 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
>> I've seen pics in the legacy literature but it seems nobody has seen or
>> kept them if they ever had them.  I was wondering why?  No good? Just not
>> nused that much?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:02 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy
>>> that are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>>> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>>
>>>> What waves Tim?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>>>>> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
>>>>> waves etc...
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>>
>>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get
>>>>>> them made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or
>>>>>> plastic on the legacy or wood lathe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>>>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
>>>>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>>>>>> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
>>>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the
>>>>>> same dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> exactly the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>>>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
>>>>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this
>>>>>> photo.  As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment
>>>>>> Plate.  While there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router
>>>>>> carriage like shows in the legacy 

Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

Ray did you see what Curtis just dropped in our laps

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:31 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I hope this works. Helps out...
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:30:14 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ornamental mills mag. #7.pdf
>
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:19:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curtis<
>
> I dont think I have that volume I only have about 3 of them that was all I
> got when I bought my machine.
> I was trying to show Ray a pic of them.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Tim
> If the templates are wavy, they could be the swan-neck molding set?
>
> Look in the volume seven Ornamental mills magazine.   "Boy" do I miss
> those paper magazines...! (Hot summer sale ends Sep 15 2005!) Where did the
> time go?
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that
> are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What waves Tim?
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
> waves etc...
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
> the legacy or wood lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
> adjustment plate.
>
>
>
> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>
>
>
> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>
>
&g

Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

Wow can you do that with all of them for me?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ornamental mills mag. #7.pdf
>
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:19:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curtis<
>
> I dont think I have that volume I only have about 3 of them that was all I
> got when I bought my machine.
> I was trying to show Ray a pic of them.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Tim
> If the templates are wavy, they could be the swan-neck molding set?
>
> Look in the volume seven Ornamental mills magazine.   "Boy" do I miss
> those paper magazines...! (Hot summer sale ends Sep 15 2005!) Where did the
> time go?
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that
> are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>
> What waves Tim?
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
> waves etc...
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>
> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
> the legacy or wood lathe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
> exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Bill
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>
>
>
> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
> adjustment plate.
>
>
>
> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>
>
>
> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>
>
>
> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY
> want all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories.
>
> --
> You received this message beca

Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Curtis you still there? Show Ray what I'm referring too. Someone just
posted using them recently sorry not as knowledgeable as some of these guys
using them for years.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:29 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> Oh, you mean like the top pieces on some 18th century furniture or
> grandfather clocks?  That would be useful.
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
>> Hey Tim
>> If the templates are wavy, they could be the swan-neck molding set?
>>
>> Look in the volume seven Ornamental mills magazine.   "Boy" do I miss
>> those paper magazines...! (Hot summer sale ends Sep 15 2005!) Where did the
>> time go?
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy
>> that are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>> What waves Tim?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
>> waves etc...
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>>
>> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them
>> made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on
>> the legacy or wood lathe
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same
>> dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
>> exactly the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.
>> As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While
>> there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like
>> shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate
>> with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what
>> you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass
>> and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus
>> adjustment plate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's
>> not a killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's
>> laying around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is
>> on the router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is,
>> you REALLY want all the pieces to comple

Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 I hope this works. Helps out...
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:30:14 PM EST, Curt George 
 wrote:  
 
  Ornamental mills mag. #7.pdf 

On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:19:10 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Curtis<
I dont think I have that volume I only have about 3 of them that was all I got 
when I bought my machine. I was trying to show Ray a pic of them. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hey TimIf the templates are wavy, they could be the swan-neck molding set?
Look in the volume seven Ornamental mills magazine.   "Boy" do I miss those 
paper magazines...! (Hot summer sale ends Sep 15 2005!) Where did the time go?
C.A.G.On Sunday, November 29, 2020, 10:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy that are 
wave patterns. Bill probably would be better atexplaining them as was just 
using them and posting, or Curtis
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

What waves Tim?
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

This might be another topic that we all could benefit from. I think I only have 
one stylius to the big brass one that follows the waves etc...
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:


I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get them made I 
wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or plastic on the legacy 
or wood lathe

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

Bill,

Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?

Mac


-Original Message- 
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower 




You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the same dia as 
the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be exactly the same.

 

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Ray Leaman
Sent: Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

 

I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this photo.  As you 
can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment Plate.  While there is no 
dust port hole in the follower near the router carriage like shows in the 
legacy literature, I do have a wholly different aluminum plate with a plastic 
3" dust port that does n't seem to fit anywhere with what you see in this 
picture.  And, obviously I do not have the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel 
stylus that fits in that aluminum block on the stylus adjustment plate.

 

Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.  That's not a 
killer as it can probably be improvised somewhat easily.

 

So I will be getting back with the gut I bought it from to see if it's laying 
around somewhere gathering dust.  Seems strange that the follower is on the 
router carriage but the rest of the assembly is missing.

 

Anyway, after getting everything else, you all kn ow how it is, you REALLY want 
all the pieces to complete the collection of accessories. 


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Re: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower

[Tim Ziegler]

I have them and am pretty sure the other's posting today do. I could get a
pic or two but not till tomorrow.  I was just looking through things and
did not find them in my info.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:26 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:

> I've seen pics in the legacy literature but it seems nobody has seen or
> kept them if they ever had them.  I was wondering why?  No good? Just not
> nused that much?
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:02 PM Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
>
>> Should be a couple metal templates I think that are created by Legacy
>> that are wave patterns. Bill probably would be better at
>> explaining them as was just using them and posting, or Curtis
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:56 PM Ray Leaman  wrote:
>>
>>> What waves Tim?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:06 PM Tim Ziegler 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This might be another topic that we all could benefit from.
>>>> I think I only have one stylius to the big brass one that follows the
>>>> waves etc...
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know mac I make my own I would assume you would have to get
>>>>> them made I wouldn’t be beyond making them out of really hard wood or
>>>>> plastic on the legacy or wood lathe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 12:55 PM
>>>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.  Where does one get more styluses - of the various sizes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>>>>> Sent: Nov 29, 2020 4:51 PM
>>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You need several sizes of stylises the styless you use must be the
>>>>> same dia as the router bit your cutting with or your reproduction won’t be
>>>>> exactly the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Ray Leaman
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 30 November 2020 6:51 AM
>>>>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject:* My 1200 - Accessories: Template Follower
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the makings of a template follower as you can see in this
>>>>> photo.  As you can see I have the follower and the Stylus Adjustment
>>>>> Plate.  While there is no dust port hole in the follower near the router
>>>>> carriage like shows in the legacy literature, I do have a wholly different
>>>>> aluminum plate with a plastic 3" dust port that does n't seem to fit
>>>>> anywhere with what you see in this picture.  And, obviously I do not have
>>>>> the the 1/2" brass and hardened steel stylus that fits in that aluminum
>>>>> block on the stylus adjustment plate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, I also do not Template Rail Mounting Kit.  None of it.
>>>>> That's no