RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Marilyn, Alias is not a term used by Legacy (GEDCOM excepted) and I would ask, therefore, for a little more detail. Are you saying that he uses J Wiley as his full name and drops the Embry himself on things like censuses etc. or simply that his friends referred to him as J Wiley and not Joseph. Would you also confirm that you are talking about the entry in the AKAs (the three heads icon)? In the first case I would put Wiley in the AKA surname box and in the second Embry. Or, in the second case in the name field one could use Joseph Wiley J Wiley Embry in the name field. Enclosing the J Wiley in privacy brackets [[...]] gives the option of not printing the contents between brackets. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 From: paddypeppe...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Alias question To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? Marilyn _ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Marilyn Clark wrote I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? I would. Because in Reports the wording(1) is usually Another name for Joseph was J Wiley Embry. If you don't include the surname in the AKA it will read as Another name for Joseph was J Wiley which makes it look as though Wiley was an alternative surname. (1) I'm quoting from memory here as I can't check it at the moment, but I think that's the default wording. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Minor question - I have located a URL source from rootsweb that I would like to add to my Legacy data. Where do most folks place the URL? I initially entered the URL in the burial data box,which seems logical to enable me to get to that site as needed; however, I discovered that it didn't print on a Book Report Narrative. I then re-entered the URL as a 'Comment ' in an event, and it appeared as part of the endnotes. What is the recommended place to enter this type data? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Clark paddypeppe...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? I don't enter the surname if it is the same because I don't like the way it reads in reports. If I had my druthers I'd enter it and add an option in reports to suppress the redundant surname. I think Legacy's AKA handling needs lots of work. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Clark paddypeppe...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? I don't enter the surname if it is the same because I don't like the way it reads in reports. If I had my druthers I'd enter it and add an option in reports to suppress the redundant surname. I think Legacy's AKA handling needs lots of work. I totally agree with you Dennis. In fact, I think there's a desperate need to make a distinction between 'real' AKAs and what should really be classed as transcription errors that give rise to a multitude of alternate spellings. Since the program comes with the series of 'Alt. ...' Event Types, what's wrong with creating an Event Type of 'Alt. Spelling' or something similar? This would alleviate reams of the 'Another name for...' notes and also allow you to source the alternative/wrong spelling. Aliases should really be left for alternate, official surnames. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Ron, I am bugged by the AKA or Nickname as well since many in my family go by their second names (myself included). However, rather than using the Privacy brackets I have been checking both Use quoted names for narratives and Removed quoted given names in report options, and this gives me what I want. This gives me Albert Russell McGillivray as my full name, Russ did . . . for events, and never shows Albert Russell Russ McGillivray anywhere. The only remaining problem is to manually scrub a Gedcom of the quoted names before submitting it to WorldConnect (for example). I just wish Legacy had handled this the same way PAF did, which was simple and worked just fine (using the Nickname Gedcom tag). Russ -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: June 16, 2009 3:43 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question Marilyn, Alias is not a term used by Legacy (GEDCOM excepted) and I would ask, therefore, for a little more detail. Are you saying that he uses J Wiley as his full name and drops the Embry himself on things like censuses etc. or simply that his friends referred to him as J Wiley and not Joseph. Would you also confirm that you are talking about the entry in the AKAs (the three heads icon)? In the first case I would put Wiley in the AKA surname box and in the second Embry. Or, in the second case in the name field one could use Joseph Wiley J Wiley Embry in the name field. Enclosing the J Wiley in privacy brackets [[...]] gives the option of not printing the contents between brackets. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 From: paddypeppe...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Alias question To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? Marilyn _ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Where to Reference Images
Paula, Thanks for your advice. I have started doing the extra linking in batches - using Access to help me find out who to link the image to (but changing the record through Legacy). Could you expand on these two points? Why would you link an image at the individual level if you could link it to an event, like birth or burial? The Picture Gallery has the option of showing All Pictures which gives the Event images the same visibility as the Individual ones. And what is this feature of adding all the documents to the Picture Gallery at once? It might be a great help. Thanks for sharing, Russ Also, with the major life events you would be attaching the image to the individual anyway. not a true event record. So, for a given individual, all the documents you really want to show can be added to their picture gallery at once... one click from the family view. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: June 15, 2009 6:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Where to Reference Images Rush, Aha! I see your dilemma. I don't have relatives wanting webpages... yet. Do you really have a lot of these documents? for the individuals your relatives are most interested in looking at? I just shudder a bit whenever I read about changing things directly in the database... and I'm even an old programmer! Also, with the major life events you would be attaching the image to the individual anyway. not a true event record. So, for a given individual, all the documents you really want to show can be added to their picture gallery at once... one click from the family view. Maybe you could do the work in batches as you prepare a line for a relative...? Just a thought. Best of luck on this one! --Paula --- On Sun, 6/14/09, Russ McGillivray russmcgilliv...@hotmail.com wrote: Jenny, The problem is that I would like to be able to browse through the images using the Picture Gallery or on Web pages. I imagine that relatives I give a CD of web pages to would be interested in seeing actual documents. However, neither the Picture Gallery nor the Web pages function go down to source detail images - they only support images attached to people or events. Russ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Where to Reference Images
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:17:17 -0400, Russ McGillivray russmcgilliv...@hotmail.com wrote: Why would you link an image at the individual level if you could link it to an event, like birth or burial? I believe some reports/webpages do not display pictures attached to birth/baptism/death/burial/marriage events. You might want to test this before you proceed. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:29:31 -0400, Russ McGillivray russmcgilliv...@hotmail.com wrote: The only remaining problem is to manually scrub a Gedcom of the quoted names before submitting it to WorldConnect (for example). Why not submit this as a suggestion... http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/suggest.asp -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question - Alt Spelling
I agree with the Alt Spelling option, but I would like it as an option in the
AKA field, rather than in the Events field. Almost every AKA I have is an
error by a census taker, a records clerk, etc., rather than a change made by
the individual her/himself. The exception is where my Catholic German
ancestors dropped their Church name [John, Mary, Joseph] in favor of the name
by which they were called {Gerhardt, Gertrude, Hermann] or vice versa - that's
a true AKA.
Marianne
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
Sent: Jun 16, 2009 7:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Clark
paddypeppe...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases.
Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex:
Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I
include Embry again?
I don't enter the surname if it is the same because I don't like the
way it reads in reports. If I had my druthers I'd enter it and add an
option in reports to suppress the redundant surname. I think Legacy's
AKA handling needs lots of work.
I totally agree with you Dennis.
In fact, I think there's a desperate need to make a distinction between
'real' AKAs and what should really be classed as transcription errors
that give rise to a multitude of alternate spellings.
Since the program comes with the series of 'Alt. ...' Event Types,
what's wrong with creating an Event Type of 'Alt. Spelling' or something
similar? This would alleviate reams of the 'Another name for...' notes
and also allow you to source the alternative/wrong spelling.
Aliases should really be left for alternate, official surnames.
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary not showing in Descendant Narrative Report Book
Lloyd, You need to click on Edit Event, then Edit Event Sentence Definition and add the notes (assuming this is where you have the obit text entered) in your Event Sentence. This is how mine reads if all of my fields are entered: [HeShe] was remembered in an obituary, published [onDate], [inPlace].[Sources][CR][CR][Notes][CR] If doing something similar doesn't allow it to print, then tell us what you have entered in your Obituary Event Sentence so we can better advise. Mary From: lhit...@aol.com I have an Event named Obituary which has the newspaper announcement of the Death. In the Narrative Report, the Obituary does not print out. Only the Place and Description will print. I have the Description to print, His/Her obituary was published in the Newspaper/Funeral Home in City,County,State. What do I need to do to make the Obit. print out? Lloyd Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to unsubscribe
What does it take to unsubscribe? I've tried four times, unsuccessfully, in the past three days, using the link below. To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Is there a valid link anywhere? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to unsubscribe
Look on the very last line in this e-mail Lloyd In a message dated 6/16/2009 9:56:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ci...@treadles.ca writes: What does it take to unsubscribe? I've tried four times, unsuccessfully, in the past three days, using the link below. To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Is there a valid link anywhere? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to unsubscribe
ci...@treadles.ca wrote: What does it take to unsubscribe? I've tried four times, unsuccessfully, in the past three days, using the link below. To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Is there a valid link anywhere? The link is correct. a) Did you enter the required details correctly? You need :- 1) email address that you subscribed with 2) select the Legacy User Group c) make sure you unsubscribe and don't subscribe again b) Have you read the notes? In particular, this one? Unsubscribing Please allow 48 hours for changes to take effect. Unsubscribing usually works the first time for most people. Click here if you have problems unsubscribing. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to unsubscribe
lhit...@aol.com wrote: Look on the very last line in this e-mail Normally good advice. However the OP quoted the link What does it take to unsubscribe? I've tried four times, unsuccessfully, in the past three days, using the link below. To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Thanks, that's just what I was looking for. Marilyn --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 4:58 AM Marilyn Clark wrote I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? I would. Because in Reports the wording(1) is usually Another name for Joseph was J Wiley Embry. If you don't include the surname in the AKA it will read as Another name for Joseph was J Wiley which makes it look as though Wiley was an alternative surname. (1) I'm quoting from memory here as I can't check it at the moment, but I think that's the default wording. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Huh, I hadn't even thought about that differentiation, Mike. The example I gave was for a 'legitimate' alternate name. I wanted to have his 'official' full name in the regular name field, and his commonly used name where he signed his name on documents, as the 'alternate name.' I forgot about the various spellings of names. I have one woman who has her first name spelled 6 different ways. I just plunked them all in the alternate name field, and put her most-often-spelled name in the 'regular' name field. Thanks for the input. Marilyn --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:21 AM Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Clark paddypeppe...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? I don't enter the surname if it is the same because I don't like the way it reads in reports. If I had my druthers I'd enter it and add an option in reports to suppress the redundant surname. I think Legacy's AKA handling needs lots of work. I totally agree with you Dennis. In fact, I think there's a desperate need to make a distinction between 'real' AKAs and what should really be classed as transcription errors that give rise to a multitude of alternate spellings. Since the program comes with the series of 'Alt. ...' Event Types, what's wrong with creating an Event Type of 'Alt. Spelling' or something similar? This would alleviate reams of the 'Another name for...' notes and also allow you to source the alternative/wrong spelling. Aliases should really be left for alternate, official surnames. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question
It is entirely a personal choice. If you always put in the last name, that variant will show up in all the lists in which you can show AKAs. I find it very helpful to have all the variants as AKAs because I do much in the medieaval period when many names were used for and by the same person. When I am researching and wonder if the person mentioned is someone in my genealogy, I can easily check my index because I have most of the known AKAs there. AKAs are also a way for me to easily identify all the people known only as so-and-so of England, or all the earls of Bedford, etc. Carolyn -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Clark Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question Huh, I hadn't even thought about that differentiation, Mike. The example I gave was for a 'legitimate' alternate name. I wanted to have his 'official' full name in the regular name field, and his commonly used name where he signed his name on documents, as the 'alternate name.' I forgot about the various spellings of names. I have one woman who has her first name spelled 6 different ways. I just plunked them all in the alternate name field, and put her most-often-spelled name in the 'regular' name field. Thanks for the input. Marilyn --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:21 AM Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Clark paddypeppe...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? I don't enter the surname if it is the same because I don't like the way it reads in reports. If I had my druthers I'd enter it and add an option in reports to suppress the redundant surname. I think Legacy's AKA handling needs lots of work. I totally agree with you Dennis. In fact, I think there's a desperate need to make a distinction between 'real' AKAs and what should really be classed as transcription errors that give rise to a multitude of alternate spellings. Since the program comes with the series of 'Alt. ...' Event Types, what's wrong with creating an Event Type of 'Alt. Spelling' or something similar? This would alleviate reams of the 'Another name for...' notes and also allow you to source the alternative/wrong spelling. Aliases should really be left for alternate, official surnames. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com / Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2111 - Release Date: 06/15/09 17:54:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG]
It's your choice. I have found that some websites change the URLs when they update; others keep the same ID number and URL for a person even when they update. For the sites that keep them the same, I enter the URL in the Detail Text field of the citation. For those that change, I don't. The URL to the website index is always included in my Repository. It does give me many n/a addresses in the Master Repository Address List, but because the URL shows up under Assigned Sources on the Family View, and is clickable, I can always easily access the index and search for the person. Carolyn -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of SgtBob Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:02 AM To: Legacy Subject: [LegacyUG] Minor question - I have located a URL source from rootsweb that I would like to add to my Legacy data. Where do most folks place the URL? I initially entered the URL in the burial data box,which seems logical to enable me to get to that site as needed; however, I discovered that it didn't print on a Book Report Narrative. I then re-entered the URL as a 'Comment ' in an event, and it appeared as part of the endnotes. What is the recommended place to enter this type data? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.27/2111 - Release Date: 06/15/09 17:54:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question - Alt Spelling
I put every variant in AKA because that is where I look when I wonder if the
person I have found in research is someone in my genealogy. It's all right
there in my index and other lists. I think having yet another list with
variants would be redundant and confusing. Let's not get caught up in the
.semantics of AKA. I have mentioned the medieaval era before, but even in
colonial America, people were called, and called themselves by different names.
What the Legacy AKA allows is for us to find the if the person is OUR person
even when a different name is used!
Carolyn
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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of
mbstx
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question - Alt Spelling
I agree with the Alt Spelling option, but I would like it as an option in the
AKA field, rather than in the Events field. Almost every AKA I have is an
error by a census taker, a records clerk, etc., rather than a change made by
the individual her/himself. The exception is where my Catholic German
ancestors dropped their Church name [John, Mary, Joseph] in favor of the name
by which they were called {Gerhardt, Gertrude, Hermann] or vice versa - that's
a true AKA.
Marianne
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com
Sent: Jun 16, 2009 7:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Clark
paddypeppe...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases.
Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex:
Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I
include Embry again?
I don't enter the surname if it is the same because I don't like the
way it reads in reports. If I had my druthers I'd enter it and add an
option in reports to suppress the redundant surname. I think Legacy's
AKA handling needs lots of work.
I totally agree with you Dennis.
In fact, I think there's a desperate need to make a distinction between
'real' AKAs and what should really be classed as transcription errors
that give rise to a multitude of alternate spellings.
Since the program comes with the series of 'Alt. ...' Event Types,
what's wrong with creating an Event Type of 'Alt. Spelling' or something
similar? This would alleviate reams of the 'Another name for...' notes
and also allow you to source the alternative/wrong spelling.
Aliases should really be left for alternate, official surnames.
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Obituary not showing in Descendant Narrative Report Book
Thank you very much, Mary, That solved my problem. Lloyd In a message dated 6/16/2009 9:16:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ml...@sbcglobal.net writes: You need to click on Edit Event, then Edit Event Sentence Definition and add the notes (assuming this is where you have the obit text entered) in your Event Sentence. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to unsubscribe
Yes to all, and it's been far more than 48 hours. On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:14:02 +0200, you wrote: ci...@treadles.ca wrote: What does it take to unsubscribe? I've tried four times, unsuccessfully, in the past three days, using the link below. To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Is there a valid link anywhere? The link is correct. a) Did you enter the required details correctly? You need :- 1) email address that you subscribed with 2) select the Legacy User Group c) make sure you unsubscribe and don't subscribe again b) Have you read the notes? In particular, this one? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to unsubscribe
The very last line in your e-mail is identical to the link I quoted, and it doesn't work for me. To all the rest, please pardon me for quoting Lloyd's entire message. On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:00:49 EDT, you wrote: Look on the very last line in this e-mail Lloyd In a message dated 6/16/2009 9:56:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ci...@treadles.ca writes: What does it take to unsubscribe? I've tried four times, unsuccessfully, in the past three days, using the link below. To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Is there a valid link anywhere? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Bug Log [was: Re: [LegacyUG] missing ibid - proper style]
You can't. Millennia does not publish their bug log to the users/public. However, with the new system they put in place a few months ago, they do reply to bug reports, at least if the reported bug is new to them. In the case below, I was told of the issue number in an e-mail from Support. Ward - Original Message - From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing ibid - proper style Hey, Ward, where can I find the issues log? Thanks, --Paula --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: Hi mbstx, Re: short forms: I can't seem to enable any source printing for the Descendant Report. Did you mean the Descendant Book report? This is one of the known bugs around Subsequent Citations -- they work in certain reports when you use footnotes, but they do not work when you use endnotes. This is logged as issue no. 0002201, I'm told. When I reported this bug, I only mentioned Descendant Narrative, Individual, and Family Group Sheet reports, but I would hope that the bug fix should apply to any report. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Merging Charts
I have done this more than a few times.
1. Look at the size of both files. If each between 1-9, pick one to be
the 'master' and the other be added into it. Move all RINs into User ID. Back
it all up.
2. Take the 'to be added' and using import/export and during the process,
import using 'starting with' RINs 11; as 5432 should become 105432, so you
can check the accuracy.
If your files are larger, (or smaller) use the tool 1('#of0's)1.
Rich in LA CA
--- On Sun, 6/14/09, Edward ed...@verizon.net wrote:
From: Edward ed...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Merging Charts
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 7:19 AM
Hi Veronica, Dede,
I have asked the same question (how to combine two *.fdb
family trees into
one) on 6-5-09 but had no answer. I have a friend in
Poland who
combined-merged two family trees into one but I think
he is using a Polish
version of family tree program. Have to ask him.
Edward Tarchalski
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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com
[mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]
On Behalf
Of Dede Holden
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:53 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Charts
Veronica,
I have been working on the same thing for my husband, as we
are having
a family get together which will include the descendants of
both sets
of his grandparents. I ended up printing two separate
descendant
charts, one for each set of grandparents. I couldn't come
up with a
way to include both. If someone else has an idea, I'd
like to hear
it, too.
Dede Holden
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Veronica Manalvo
ronnie_...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm a relatively new user of Legacy Family Tree v7.0
and I have a query in
regards to charting. What I am trying to do essentially is
create a standard
descendant chart but with two groups of descendants merged
on the one chart
- that is, I am trying to get the descendants of both of my
grandparents on
the same chart, where the common link is the marriage of
my parents. I can
create the separate charts for each set of my grandparents
easily enough but
I can't seem to combine them together, by copying/pasting
or otherwise.
Does anyone have any tips on how I can achieve this,
or if it is even
achievable in Legacy Charting v7.0?
Thanks in advance.
Veronica.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question
I put the entire last name . . . IN CAPS in my case! -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Clark Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Alias question I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Russ, That is what I do. I reserve the AKAs for Official alternative names, married names - although there are different views on this :-), and going back 100 years, where names are consistantly spelt differently - eg. I have families whose surnames can be either Hayes or Heyes. I do the same as you with privacy brackets as well. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: russmcgilliv...@hotmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:29:31 -0400 Ron, I am bugged by the AKA or Nickname as well since many in my family go by their second names (myself included). However, rather than using the Privacy brackets I have been checking both Use quoted names for narratives and Removed quoted given names in report options, and this gives me what I want. This gives me Albert Russell McGillivray as my full name, Russ did . . . for events, and never shows Albert Russell Russ McGillivray anywhere. The only remaining problem is to manually scrub a Gedcom of the quoted names before submitting it to WorldConnect (for example). I just wish Legacy had handled this the same way PAF did, which was simple and worked just fine (using the Nickname Gedcom tag). Russ -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: June 16, 2009 3:43 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question Marilyn, Alias is not a term used by Legacy (GEDCOM excepted) and I would ask, therefore, for a little more detail. Are you saying that he uses J Wiley as his full name and drops the Embry himself on things like censuses etc. or simply that his friends referred to him as J Wiley and not Joseph. Would you also confirm that you are talking about the entry in the AKAs (the three heads icon)? In the first case I would put Wiley in the AKA surname box and in the second Embry. Or, in the second case in the name field one could use Joseph Wiley J Wiley Embry in the name field. Enclosing the J Wiley in privacy brackets [[...]] gives the option of not printing the contents between brackets. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 From: paddypeppe...@yahoo.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Alias question To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases. Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex: Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I include Embry again? Marilyn _ _ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Alias question - Alt Spelling
Marianne,
I do not include census errors in the AKAs, but in the Research Notes. This
particular place is because of my way of working and those who use Census
Events may like to put them in Event Notes.
Ron Ferguson
_
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http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:47:32 -0500
From: msz...@mindspring.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question - Alt Spelling
I agree with the Alt Spelling option, but I would like it as an option in
the AKA field, rather than in the Events field. Almost every AKA I have is an
error by a census taker, a records clerk, etc., rather than a change made by
the individual her/himself. The exception is where my Catholic German
ancestors dropped their Church name [John, Mary, Joseph] in favor of the
name by which they were called {Gerhardt, Gertrude, Hermann] or vice versa -
that's a true AKA.
Marianne
-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry
Sent: Jun 16, 2009 7:21 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alias question
Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Clark
wrote:
I am a new Legacy user, and have just begun to input some aliases.
Should I be using the Surname field when it is not different? Ex:
Joseph Wiley Embry is the main name, alias is J Wiley. Should I
include Embry again?
I don't enter the surname if it is the same because I don't like the
way it reads in reports. If I had my druthers I'd enter it and add an
option in reports to suppress the redundant surname. I think Legacy's
AKA handling needs lots of work.
I totally agree with you Dennis.
In fact, I think there's a desperate need to make a distinction between
'real' AKAs and what should really be classed as transcription errors
that give rise to a multitude of alternate spellings.
Since the program comes with the series of 'Alt. ...' Event Types,
what's wrong with creating an Event Type of 'Alt. Spelling' or something
similar? This would alleviate reams of the 'Another name for...' notes
and also allow you to source the alternative/wrong spelling.
Aliases should really be left for alternate, official surnames.
--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.
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