Re: [LegacyUG] Calendar Report Errors
Marilyn: Do you have birth dates or anniversary dates (whichever you are searching for the Calendar) for everyone? The Calendar report only finds individuals that have a date for the field you are searching to include in the Calendar. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA At 04:43 PM 8/2/2009, you wrote: I thought I'd try the Calendar Report out and I am getting strange results. I'm only using a db with 18 individuals. 11 are deceased, 7 are living. When I do a Search for either Living=YES or Living=NO I get the correct results. When I do the Calendar List Report, I get only 3 deceased listed out of an expected 11. I get only the home (living) person listed out of an expected 7 living. I did File- Maintenance and Master List cleanup a couple times today, and again before after testing this Calendar List Report. I can't see anything different about the way the dates appear on the individuals. How can the Search function work correctly but the Calendar not work?? Legacy7 Deluxe v. 7.0.0.100 build date 17 Jul 2009 Vista Home Premium x64 bit Marilyn --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Calendar Report Errors To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 4:01 PM Alan Jones wrote Just wanted to let everyone know that realized I still had the March 13 build so I updated to the latest and things are working good know. Not sure if there was a bug that was fixed or if in the process of converting my file with the new information the problem was resolved but either way it is working. I was just about to say that I had a *very vague* idea that someone had reported a bug with the Calendar a while ago and to ask what version you were using. Perhaps my memory was not as wobbly as I thought it might be! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Efficient Conversion from PAF to Legacy
LeRoy, I recently converted from PAF to Legacy. I did not have a problem transferring my sources and notes or transcriptions (assuming you mean the Actual Text), or images attached to sources. However, I think the sources only transfer as the 'old' Legacy style, not the Master Source style. There are lots of emails regarding how to convert these to the Master Source style in Legacy, but it is not a trivial process. It also looks like my MRIN did not change (not something I was concerned about at the time). Some other cleanup work I had to do: 1. I had used the ~ to keep my research notes from printing. These had to be manually cut and pasted into the Research notes tab 2. Change alternate name to quoted name. I did this only for those people most familiar to me and my relatives, because I had too many in PAF to do them all. I left the rest as the Legacy alternative name. 3. Restore the middle capitalization to names like LeRoy. Russ McGillivray -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of LeRoy Atkins Sent: August 1, 2009 2:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Efficient Conversion from PAF to Legacy Can you recommend the best way for me to convert from using PAF to using Legacy? I have had 4 or 5 false starts and am now concerned about choosing the best way to do it. MY OBJECTIVES: 1.. Keep the same MRINs 2.. Incorporate Evidence Explained using SourceWriter 3.. Use the most efficient means of transferring my sources and notes from PAF 4.. Keep my transcriptions associated with my sources MY PAF DATABASE: 1.. Individuals 1858 2.. Sources 249 3.. Citations 1040 4.. Notes 5543 PAF HISTORY: Years ago I started using the source feature and included actual text. Three semesters ago I started incorporating my sources into a timeline in my notes field in PAF along with a transcription of the document. I consider these notes my most valuable data; however I will need to reformat my citation to comply with Evidence Explained. I own the training CDs volume I and II. Please give me your recommendation for the most effective and efficient way to convert. LeRoy Atkins Efficient Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Calendar Report Errors
Cathy, Thank You! That must be it. Even when I ask the Calendar List to show me everyone, I just get 5 people. The item that the ones selected have in common, that none of the others have, is a *precise* date of birth. Ex: Sep 1935, or 11 Dec 1932. The others either have no dob, or the year is preceded by Abt -- Since this is a Calendar, and not really a listing of Living or Dead persons, this makes perfect sense. Thanks so much for your insight. I was afraid it was another Vista x64 glitch! Marilyn --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net wrote: From: Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Calendar Report Errors To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:05 AM Marilyn: Do you have birth dates or anniversary dates (whichever you are searching for the Calendar) for everyone? The Calendar report only finds individuals that have a date for the field you are searching to include in the Calendar. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA At 04:43 PM 8/2/2009, you wrote: I thought I'd try the Calendar Report out and I am getting strange results. I'm only using a db with 18 individuals. 11 are deceased, 7 are living. When I do a Search for either Living=YES or Living=NO I get the correct results. When I do the Calendar List Report, I get only 3 deceased listed out of an expected 11. I get only the home (living) person listed out of an expected 7 living. I did File- Maintenance and Master List cleanup a couple times today, and again before after testing this Calendar List Report. I can't see anything different about the way the dates appear on the individuals. How can the Search function work correctly but the Calendar not work?? Legacy7 Deluxe v. 7.0.0.100 build date 17 Jul 2009 Vista Home Premium x64 bit Marilyn --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Calendar Report Errors To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 4:01 PM Alan Jones wrote Just wanted to let everyone know that realized I still had the March 13 build so I updated to the latest and things are working good know. Not sure if there was a bug that was fixed or if in the process of converting my file with the new information the problem was resolved but either way it is working. I was just about to say that I had a *very vague* idea that someone had reported a bug with the Calendar a while ago and to ask what version you were using. Perhaps my memory was not as wobbly as I thought it might be! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Report problem
I am going to visit a place where a couple of cousins used to live. I printed out individual reports for them, but got none of the residences or any thing else listed in events. How do I get these things to print? Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Report problem
Report Options (bottom center of report pop-up screen) Include Tab click on Event Information --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Elizabeth Cunningham drybo...@netreach.net wrote: From: Elizabeth Cunningham drybo...@netreach.net Subject: [LegacyUG] Report problem To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 5:08 PM I am going to visit a place where a couple of cousins used to live. I printed out individual reports for them, but got none of the residences or any thing else listed in events. How do I get these things to print? Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree..com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Report problem
In Report Options, did you check Event Information? C.G. Ouimet Kingston, ON -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Cunningham Sent: Monday August-03-09 01:08 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Report problem I am going to visit a place where a couple of cousins used to live. I printed out individual reports for them, but got none of the residences or any thing else listed in events. How do I get these things to print? Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Report problem
Elizabeth, On just about every screen there is a Help button, often on the bottom right. These give a context help for the screen which you are on, and describe the options available and how to use them. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:08:18 -0400 From: drybo...@netreach.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Report problem I am going to visit a place where a couple of cousins used to live. I printed out individual reports for them, but got none of the residences or any thing else listed in events. How do I get these things to print? Elizabeth C _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years—enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Report problem
Thanks very much. It worked. I am using Legacy 6. Elizabeth C Connie Sheets wrote: Report Options (bottom center of report pop-up screen) Include Tab click on Event Information --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Elizabeth Cunningham drybo...@netreach.net wrote: From: Elizabeth Cunningham drybo...@netreach.net Subject: [LegacyUG] Report problem To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 5:08 PM I am going to visit a place where a couple of cousins used to live. I printed out individual reports for them, but got none of the residences or any thing else listed in events. How do I get these things to print? Elizabeth C Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years—enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
The first is easily avoidable by selecting Link to existing person to see if they're already there. The second is next to the person's name if you've so customized the Index View. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children
When you enter him as a child of you and your 1st wife, he will be a full, but when you also enter him as a child of you and your 2nd wife, he will be listed both as 1/2 and regular under each family because that's what he is. He is a biological child of both you and your first wife, so you enter him as a child of you and your 1st wife. Then right click the list of children, and click on Children's Settings... Highlight his name and specify Relationship to Father: Biological, and Relationship to Mother: Biological. H will now show up a 1/2 child when you display the Family View for you and your 2nd wife. Since your 2nd wife has adopted him, you want him to show up as a full child for this Family View. To have him show as a full child of you and your 2nd wife, you must also enter him as a child of you and your 2nd wife. Legacy will warn you that he is already a child of another family and ask if you want to enter him again. You do. Then, in Children's Settings, specify Biological and Adopted, respectively. He will up show up twice under each family, once as 1/2 and once as full, which is correct. On his family view page, it will show he has two sets of parents. Hope this is clear. CE From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Jim Stapleton Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:31 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children Wife #1 and I had a son. She passed away and I married Wife #2 and we had two daughters. Wife #2 legally adopted my son. When I display myself and Wife #1, my son shows up and I indicated his relationship to myself and Wife #1 as Biological. When I display myself and Wife #2 he doesn't show up unless I view 1/2 kids. But, now under Wife #1 my two daughters show up as 1/2 kids (I think this is wrong but that's a seperate issue). Anyway, I can't find anyway to get to a screen to show my sons relationship with Wife #2 as adopted. At one time I linked him as an existing son, but he sometimes shows up twice when 1/2 kids is turned on. Is this as clear as mud? Does anyone have any suggestions? Jim Stapleton jima...@surewest.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children
Let me see if I can help. When you select to show 1/2 children, the Family View will show all children who are *linked* to at least one of the two main persons (usually husband wife). The 1/2 indicator means that child is only linked to one of the two main persons, not both. It doesn't mean anything about a relationship, just the linkage. I don't think this affects any of the *reports*, just the *view*. So if you want your son to appear on *reports* with wife #2, you need to link him to you and wife #2 (in addition to you and wife #1). When you select show 1/2 children, it *will*, in fact, cause your son to appear twice: he is linked to you and wife #1 so that is the 1/2, he is also linked to you and wife #2 so that is the other entry, without the 1/2 indicator. But him appearing twice is only on the view screen, not in reports. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Jim Stapletonjima...@surewest.net wrote: Wife #1 and I had a son. She passed away and I married Wife #2 and we had two daughters. Wife #2 legally adopted my son. When I display myself and Wife #1, my son shows up and I indicated his relationship to myself and Wife #1 as Biological. When I display myself and Wife #2 he doesn't show up unless I view 1/2 kids. But, now under Wife #1 my two daughters show up as 1/2 kids (I think this is wrong but that's a seperate issue). Anyway, I can't find anyway to get to a screen to show my sons relationship with Wife #2 as adopted. At one time I linked him as an existing son, but he sometimes shows up twice when 1/2 kids is turned on. Is this as clear as mud? Does anyone have any suggestions? Jim Stapleton jima...@surewest.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Ron, I have to agree with Chick. If you had ever used FTM you would realize how great time saving features those are. The duplicate feature was really great and with a family who reuses the same names over and over again, I have to always check carefully. The birth date sort in FTM is a simple click of a button, just like you can currently sort on RIN, First or Surname now in Legacy, the fact that you can do it as you suggested with the search function, is terribly time consuming. Jay -- From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:26 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years—enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
I see what Chuck would like to do, as would I. In index view, you can list everyone by RIN, First name or surname. There are five other fields that could be sorted as simply as the RIN, First name and Surname sorts. I can't think, at the moment, why I would want to sort locations or sex on this screen, however, the birth date and the death date sort would help to quicky show duplicate names. As an example: Suppose I have a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725. I would be able to see at once that it is a possibility that they might be the same person. It would probably occur to me that I need to check these names as possible duplicates. If I had many names in my family that began with the letters Ha, He, Hi, Ho, Hu the Hewes and Hughes surnames might not sort close enough together for me to see this connection. Rebecca From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Randolph Clark Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See The first is easily avoidable by selecting Link to existing person to see if they're already there. The second is next to the person's name if you've so customized the Index View. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date: 08/03/09 05:57:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Randolph, The fact that FTM does it without you having to take the time to click on existing and look. Again, for those of us with large files, these features are efficient and worthwhile. Jay From: Randolph Clark Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See The first is easily avoidable by selecting Link to existing person to see if they're already there. The second is next to the person's name if you've so customized the Index View. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children
If he is listed as full child in both families, which is normal when a child has been adopted, then in the Children List of each Family View, he will appear twice, once as Full child, once as 1/2 child. On your Individual Report, he will be listed twice, once as the child of you and your 1st wife, and once again as the child of you and your 2nd wife. You will probably want to check the option Show Child-parent relationships found on the Include tab of Report Options. Then the relationship will be in parentheses after his name on the report. For your 1st marriage, it will be: Children: Name (date-date) (Father: Biological) (Mother: Biological) For your 2nd marriage, it will be: Children: Name (date-date) (Father: Biological) (Mother: Adopted) For the Family Report, he will show on each IF you have listed him as a full child of both you and your 1st wife and of you and your 2nd wife. You may also want to check Child-parent relationships on the Include tab of Report Options. If you entered the adoption as an Event on your son's page, then you should also check Events for children on the Include tab of Report Options. Then, in each Family Report, under Children, son, the Event of his adoption will be shown. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Jones Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:19 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Children Let me see if I can help. When you select to show 1/2 children, the Family View will show all children who are *linked* to at least one of the two main persons (usually husband wife). The 1/2 indicator means that child is only linked to one of the two main persons, not both. It doesn't mean anything about a relationship, just the linkage. I don't think this affects any of the *reports*, just the *view*. So if you want your son to appear on *reports* with wife #2, you need to link him to you and wife #2 (in addition to you and wife #1). When you select show 1/2 children, it *will*, in fact, cause your son to appear twice: he is linked to you and wife #1 so that is the 1/2, he is also linked to you and wife #2 so that is the other entry, without the 1/2 indicator. But him appearing twice is only on the view screen, not in reports. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Jim Stapletonjima...@surewest.net wrote: Wife #1 and I had a son. She passed away and I married Wife #2 and we had two daughters. Wife #2 legally adopted my son. When I display myself and Wife #1, my son shows up and I indicated his relationship to myself and Wife #1 as Biological. When I display myself and Wife #2 he doesn't show up unless I view 1/2 kids. But, now under Wife #1 my two daughters show up as 1/2 kids (I think this is wrong but that's a seperate issue). Anyway, I can't find anyway to get to a screen to show my sons relationship with Wife #2 as adopted. At one time I linked him as an existing son, but he sometimes shows up twice when 1/2 kids is turned on. Is this as clear as mud? Does anyone have any suggestions? Jim Stapleton jima...@surewest.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2278 - Release Date: 08/02/09 17:56:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
So you want to be able to sort everyone in your whole DB by birth date? Take advantage of Legacy's secondary sorting in the Index. Those with the same name are sorted by - no birth date, abt, bef, date, exact date. Legacy stands apart in its capacity and facility with alternate names, which is why I chose it over FTM, which limits not only the number of alternate names, but how long they can be. The way to use this to your advantage, as well as provide a record of name variants, is to fully exploit Legacy's ability to have so many alternate names. That means any variation in name - first, middle, last. It does mean you need to enter all the alternate names, but then you have them, and by choosing to Show Alternate Names, you can always find them. I have many medieaval persons who were know by many, many names as well as many spelling variations and naming conventions (Elizabeth was interchangeable with Isabel, for instance), and I put all of them in as alternate names. Then, unless it is a new variant, I can always find the person in my DB, even if the research I am reading uses a name that is not the variant that I have opted to designate the name. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 1familytree Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See Ron, I have to agree with Chick. If you had ever used FTM you would realize how great time saving features those are. The duplicate feature was really great and with a family who reuses the same names over and over again, I have to always check carefully. The birth date sort in FTM is a simple click of a button, just like you can currently sort on RIN, First or Surname now in Legacy, the fact that you can do it as you suggested with the search function, is terribly time consuming. Jay -- From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:26 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years-enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG -
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Excellent example, Rebecca. Anyone who has ever used FTM can appreciate these tools and see the value of them. If you never used them in FTM, then you don't know what you are missing. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Rebecca Williamsrebecca.w...@gmail.com wrote: I see what Chuck would like to do, as would I. In index view, you can list everyone by RIN, First name or surname. There are five other fields that could be sorted as simply as the RIN, First name and Surname sorts. I can't think, at the moment, why I would want to sort locations or sex on this screen, however, the birth date and the death date sort would help to quicky show duplicate names. As an example: Suppose I have a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725. I would be able to see at once that it is a possibility that they might be the same person. It would probably occur to me that I need to check these names as possible duplicates. If I had many names in my family that began with the letters Ha, He, Hi, Ho, Hu the Hewes and Hughes surnames might not sort close enough together for me to see this connection. Rebecca From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Randolph Clark Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See The first is easily avoidable by selecting Link to existing person to see if they're already there. The second is next to the person's name if you've so customized the Index View. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date: 08/03/09 05:57:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Ron, Why wouldn't you want the program to detect a possible duplicate when the name is entered? It could be a great time-saver and its use optional. As to the SearchFind option, I think we had this discussion once before. It does work in a round-about sort of way but is not the same thing and not near as effective. Rebecca gave an excellent example of this. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM, ronald fergusonronfe...@msn.com wrote: Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years—enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
CE, Secondary sorting in the index does not sort the DB by birth date. It sorts on names (or RIN) first. I would like to see sorting on birth date completely independent of the name. Take a look at Rebecca's example. Sorting the index on another field should not pose a problem for the programmers. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:30 PM, CE Woodwood...@msn.com wrote: So you want to be able to sort everyone in your whole DB by birth date? Take advantage of Legacy's secondary sorting in the Index. Those with the same name are sorted by - no birth date, abt, bef, date, exact date. Legacy stands apart in its capacity and facility with alternate names, which is why I chose it over FTM, which limits not only the number of alternate names, but how long they can be. The way to use this to your advantage, as well as provide a record of name variants, is to fully exploit Legacy's ability to have so many alternate names. That means any variation in name - first, middle, last. It does mean you need to enter all the alternate names, but then you have them, and by choosing to Show Alternate Names, you can always find them. I have many medieaval persons who were know by many, many names as well as many spelling variations and naming conventions (Elizabeth was interchangeable with Isabel, for instance), and I put all of them in as alternate names. Then, unless it is a new variant, I can always find the person in my DB, even if the research I am reading uses a name that is not the variant that I have opted to designate the name. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 1familytree Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See Ron, I have to agree with Chick. If you had ever used FTM you would realize how great time saving features those are. The duplicate feature was really great and with a family who reuses the same names over and over again, I have to always check carefully. The birth date sort in FTM is a simple click of a button, just like you can currently sort on RIN, First or Surname now in Legacy, the fact that you can do it as you suggested with the search function, is terribly time consuming. Jay -- From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:26 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years-enjoy free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Chuck, We have had this discussion before, and I wonder why you have raised it agin. There is, as you know, a way of putting in an enhancement request on the Legacy Home Screen. For me, I would not wish to use this facility, and it would, therefore be program bloat. BTW, you did not indicate it would be optional in your first post. I do not agree with your comment regarding the use of search; if it is used properly, one can, for example, use wildcards in a name should you wish, and use it in conjunction with a date of birth. Much more useful and more pwerful then your proposal. Even in the indexes you can get all the people will the same surname, in date of birth order by selecting the RIN of the individual you wish to use as standard and then click the surname button at the top. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:58:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Ron, Why wouldn't you want the program to detect a possible duplicate when the name is entered? It could be a great time-saver and its use optional. As to the SearchFind option, I think we had this discussion once before. It does work in a round-about sort of way but is not the same thing and not near as effective. Rebecca gave an excellent example of this. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
One way to do this would be to create a Calendar List Report for all individuals in you file. This will sort everyone by birth date. You can save a PDF of this report have it on hand to refer to at any time. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:13 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See CE, Secondary sorting in the index does not sort the DB by birth date. It sorts on names (or RIN) first. I would like to see sorting on birth date completely independent of the name. Take a look at Rebecca's example. Sorting the index on another field should not pose a problem for the programmers. Chick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
The Legacy add-on, GenViewer, does all of these things, and more, and in micro-second time. I'm just back to doing my genealogy after several years. In the meantime I'd lost contact with my GenViewer. So just last night I bought it again at $19.95, and will testify that it is WELL worth the price. Look for it at the Legacy Store page. Jo Harper At 01:43 PM 8/3/2009, you wrote: I see what Chuck would like to do, as would I. In index view, you can list everyone by RIN, First name or surname. There are five other fields that could be sorted as simply as the RIN, First name and Surname sorts. I can't think, at the moment, why I would want to sort locations or sex on this screen, however, the birth date and the death date sort would help to quicky show duplicate names. As an example: Suppose I have a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725. I would be able to see at once that it is a possibility that they might be the same person. It would probably occur to me that I need to check these names as possible duplicates. If I had many names in my family that began with the letters Ha, He, Hi, Ho, Hu the Hewes and Hughes surnames might not sort close enough together for me to see this connection. Rebecca From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Randolph Clark Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See The first is easily avoidable by selecting Link to existing person to see if they're already there. The second is next to the person's name if you've so customized the Index View. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chick Lewis mailto:cglewi...@gmail.comcglewi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date: 08/03/09 05:57:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Jo, I also use GenViewer and concur with your remarks. I was however, concentrating my remarks on Legacy itself. At present with Genviewer I am doing a multiple criteria search for duplicates in a file containing some 2000 Fergusons or similar. The trick, of course, lies in defining the specifics of the criteria in order to produce a manageable list. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:43:06 -0700 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com From: mjohar...@comcast.net Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See The Legacy add-on, GenViewer, does all of these things, and more, and in micro-second time. I'm just back to doing my genealogy after several years. In the meantime I'd lost contact with my GenViewer. So just last night I bought it again at $19.95, and will testify that it is WELL worth the price. Look for it at the Legacy Store page. Jo Harper At 01:43 PM 8/3/2009, you wrote: I see what Chuck would like to do, as would I. In index view, you can list everyone by RIN, First name or surname. There are five other fields that could be sorted as simply as the RIN, First name and Surname sorts. I can't think, at the moment, why I would want to sort locations or sex on this screen, however, the birth date and the death date sort would help to quicky show duplicate names. As an example: Suppose I have a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725. I would be able to see at once that it is a possibility that they might be the same person. It would probably occur to me that I need to check these names as possible duplicates. If I had many names in my family that began with the letters Ha, He, Hi, Ho, Hu the Hewes and Hughes surnames might not sort close enough together for me to see this connection. Rebecca From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Randolph Clark Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See The first is easily avoidable by selecting Link to existing person to see if they're already there. The second is next to the person's name if you've so customized the Index View. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chick Lewis wrote: I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/?ocid=T010MSN07A0716U Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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2009/8/3 John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com: One way to do this would be to create a Calendar List Report for all individuals in you file. This will sort everyone by birth date. Unfortunately, there is no sort order within each birth date, so it's near-impossible to spot matches in a large data set. Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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John, I have 170,000 people in my database. A calendar including everyone is 626 pages. That's not handy. Jay -- From: John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See One way to do this would be to create a Calendar List Report for all individuals in you file. This will sort everyone by birth date. You can save a PDF of this report have it on hand to refer to at any time. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:13 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See CE, Secondary sorting in the index does not sort the DB by birth date. It sorts on names (or RIN) first. I would like to see sorting on birth date completely independent of the name. Take a look at Rebecca's example. Sorting the index on another field should not pose a problem for the programmers. Chick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Ron, I raised this question again because I think it is important and is a strong feature if understood and used properly. With all due respect, (and I do respect your judgement, advice and excellent posts) your suggestion of using wild cards in the name in conjunction with a birth date search is at best a clumsy way of detecting possible duplicates. In the case of Rebecca's example of a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725, they would stand out as a possible duplication by doing nothing more than sorting on birth date. In another example, I had a David Kerido and a floater Dave Crudo in my data base, both with close, but not exactly the same birth dates. When I sorted the index on birth date, the similarity was evident. Upon further investigation they turned out to be the same person. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM, ronald fergusonronfe...@msn.com wrote: Chuck, We have had this discussion before, and I wonder why you have raised it agin. There is, as you know, a way of putting in an enhancement request on the Legacy Home Screen. For me, I would not wish to use this facility, and it would, therefore be program bloat. BTW, you did not indicate it would be optional in your first post. I do not agree with your comment regarding the use of search; if it is used properly, one can, for example, use wildcards in a name should you wish, and use it in conjunction with a date of birth. Much more useful and more pwerful then your proposal. Even in the indexes you can get all the people will the same surname, in date of birth order by selecting the RIN of the individual you wish to use as standard and then click the surname button at the top. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:58:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Ron, Why wouldn't you want the program to detect a possible duplicate when the name is entered? It could be a great time-saver and its use optional. As to the SearchFind option, I think we had this discussion once before. It does work in a round-about sort of way but is not the same thing and not near as effective. Rebecca gave an excellent example of this. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California _ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines:
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Why use an add-on to perform a simple task that could easily part of the program? On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:43 PM, MJ Harpermjohar...@comcast.net wrote: The Legacy add-on, GenViewer, does all of these things, and more, and in micro-second time. I'm just back to doing my genealogy after several years. In the meantime I'd lost contact with my GenViewer. So just last night I bought it again at $19.95, and will testify that it is WELL worth the price. Look for it at the Legacy Store page. Jo Harper At 01:43 PM 8/3/2009, you wrote: I see what Chuck would like to do, as would I. In index view, you can list everyone by RIN, First name or surname. There are five other fields that could be sorted as simply as the RIN, First name and Surname sorts. I can't think, at the moment, why I would want to sort locations or sex on this screen, however, the birth date and the death date sort would help to quicky show duplicate names. As an example: Suppose I have a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725. I would be able to see at once that it is a possibility that they might be the same person. It would probably occur to me that I need to check these names as possible duplicates. If I had many names in my family that began with the letters Ha, He, Hi, Ho, Hu the Hewes and Hughes surnames might not sort close enough together for me to see this connection. Rebecca From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Randolph Clark Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See The first is easily avoidable by selecting Link to existing person to see if they're already there. The second is next to the person's name if you've so customized the Index View. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chick Lewis mailto:cglewi...@gmail.comcglewi...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing he/she is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would catch a duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a possible duplicate. 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. I often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected individual with a different name or name change. I have had several instances where I have been able to connect individuals to families by comparing birth dates. If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will incorporate them into the next upgrade. Chick Lewis California Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date: 08/03/09 05:57:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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John... That would be a complicated way to perform a simple task... On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:33 PM, John S. Adamsoldbr...@hotmail.com wrote: One way to do this would be to create a Calendar List Report for all individuals in you file. This will sort everyone by birth date. You can save a PDF of this report have it on hand to refer to at any time. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:13 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See CE, Secondary sorting in the index does not sort the DB by birth date. It sorts on names (or RIN) first. I would like to see sorting on birth date completely independent of the name. Take a look at Rebecca's example. Sorting the index on another field should not pose a problem for the programmers. Chick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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MJ Harper wrote: The Legacy add-on, GenViewer, does all of these things, and more, and in micro-second time. I'm just back to doing my genealogy after several years. In the meantime I'd lost contact with my GenViewer. So just last night I bought it again at $19.95, and will testify that it is WELL worth the price. Look for it at the Legacy Store page. Jo Harper Is the Genviewer Legacy the same as the stand alone Genviewer and Genviewer lite? Jeff Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Chick, I guess I did not express myself too well, the wildcard was suggested as an additional feature. Let us be realistic, one doesn't need any names at all to search by birth date, if two or more people are born on 16 Jan 1725 the odds are they are the same person or twins. This is not the problem. The problem arises mainly when the dates are different or no dates are available for at least one of the people. In the first case additional proof is needed to confirm, or otherwise, but if the names are miles apart in the list, and they could be if there is no date of birth, they may well not even be noticed if the name is different - unless wildcards are used. For example I commonly use F?rg* for my surname because of all the variations (and even that doesn't cover all of them!). Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:30:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Ron, I raised this question again because I think it is important and is a strong feature if understood and used properly. With all due respect, (and I do respect your judgement, advice and excellent posts) your suggestion of using wild cards in the name in conjunction with a birth date search is at best a clumsy way of detecting possible duplicates. In the case of Rebecca's example of a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725, they would stand out as a possible duplication by doing nothing more than sorting on birth date. In another example, I had a David Kerido and a floater Dave Crudo in my data base, both with close, but not exactly the same birth dates. When I sorted the index on birth date, the similarity was evident. Upon further investigation they turned out to be the same person. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: Chuck, We have had this discussion before, and I wonder why you have raised it agin. There is, as you know, a way of putting in an enhancement request on the Legacy Home Screen. For me, I would not wish to use this facility, and it would, therefore be program bloat. BTW, you did not indicate it would be optional in your first post. I do not agree with your comment regarding the use of search; if it is used properly, one can, for example, use wildcards in a name should you wish, and use it in conjunction with a date of birth. Much more useful and more pwerful then your proposal. Even in the indexes you can get all the people will the same surname, in date of birth order by selecting the RIN of the individual you wish to use as standard and then click the surname button at the top. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:58:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Ron, Why wouldn't you want the program to detect a possible duplicate when the name is entered? It could be a great time-saver and its use optional. As to the SearchFind option, I think we had this discussion once before. It does work in a round-about sort of way but is not the same thing and not near as effective. Rebecca gave an excellent example of this. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: Chick, I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using the SearchFindDetailed Search option. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two features that I would like
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At 05:14 PM 8/3/2009, you wrote: MJ Harper wrote: The Legacy add-on, GenViewer, does all of these things, and more, and in micro-second time. I'm just back to doing my genealogy after several years. In the meantime I'd lost contact with my GenViewer. So just last night I bought it again at $19.95, and will testify that it is WELL worth the price. Look for it at the Legacy Store page. Jo Harper Is the Genviewer Legacy the same as the stand alone Genviewer and Genviewer lite? Jeff Yes, it is, but it says that the version sold through Legacy is in some way configured particularly for Legacy. I've used all three, and really appreciate them. jo Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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Mary, If you look carefully at the Calendar List, you will see that, within each date, the names are sorted by birth year. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 4:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See 2009/8/3 John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com: One way to do this would be to create a Calendar List Report for all individuals in you file. This will sort everyone by birth date. Unfortunately, there is no sort order within each birth date, so it's near-impossible to spot matches in a large data set. Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Ron, I agree the wildcard could be an additional feature, but a wild card search for the name Querido, which is the one I was looking for, would never turn up either Kerido or Crudo. However, those two names with similar birth dates stood out when the index was sorted on birth date and immediately raised a flag. When I am trying to find an elusive ancestor and know his birth date or approximate birth date, I use FTM to sort my DB by birth, and then look for a likely name in that date range. On occasion I have found a name that wasn't even close to the one I was looking for, but I recognized it as a family name. Further investigation found that person was living with a relative and using their name. Subsequent records proved that person was the missing ancestor. I agree that it can be done in Legacy using a date range in search and find, but just sorting the db by birth date is so much easier and simpler. As I'm sure you are aware, some cultures use the mother's maiden name as the family name and as you trace back in time you will find that they are sometimes interchanged. Surnames can also change from country to country and in some places didn't even exist before 1800. When tracing Jewish ancestry it gets even more complicated and multiple surnames may be found in the same family. I have seen cases where two brothers have different surnames. The ability to sort on birth date is a proven tool. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:44 PM, ronald fergusonronfe...@msn.com wrote: Chick, I guess I did not express myself too well, the wildcard was suggested as an additional feature. Let us be realistic, one doesn't need any names at all to search by birth date, if two or more people are born on 16 Jan 1725 the odds are they are the same person or twins. This is not the problem. The problem arises mainly when the dates are different or no dates are available for at least one of the people. In the first case additional proof is needed to confirm, or otherwise, but if the names are miles apart in the list, and they could be if there is no date of birth, they may well not even be noticed if the name is different - unless wildcards are used. For example I commonly use F?rg* for my surname because of all the variations (and even that doesn't cover all of them!). Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:30:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Ron, I raised this question again because I think it is important and is a strong feature if understood and used properly. With all due respect, (and I do respect your judgement, advice and excellent posts) your suggestion of using wild cards in the name in conjunction with a birth date search is at best a clumsy way of detecting possible duplicates. In the case of Rebecca's example of a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725, they would stand out as a possible duplication by doing nothing more than sorting on birth date. In another example, I had a David Kerido and a floater Dave Crudo in my data base, both with close, but not exactly the same birth dates. When I sorted the index on birth date, the similarity was evident. Upon further investigation they turned out to be the same person. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: Chuck, We have had this discussion before, and I wonder why you have raised it agin. There is, as you know, a way of putting in an enhancement request on the Legacy Home Screen. For me, I would not wish to use this facility, and it would, therefore be program bloat. BTW, you did not indicate it would be optional in your first post. I do not agree with your comment regarding the use of search; if it is used properly, one can, for example, use wildcards in a name should you wish, and use it in conjunction with a date of birth. Much more useful and more pwerful then your proposal. Even in the indexes you can get all the people will the same surname, in date of birth order by selecting the RIN of the individual you wish to use as standard and then click the surname button at the top. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See
Chick, Just curious. Have you made use of the Suggest a new feature on the home tab? It would seem to me that if enough people suggested this then it would be consider by Legacy. Don On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com wrote: Ron, I agree the wildcard could be an additional feature, but a wild card search for the name Querido, which is the one I was looking for, would never turn up either Kerido or Crudo. However, those two names with similar birth dates stood out when the index was sorted on birth date and immediately raised a flag. When I am trying to find an elusive ancestor and know his birth date or approximate birth date, I use FTM to sort my DB by birth, and then look for a likely name in that date range. On occasion I have found a name that wasn't even close to the one I was looking for, but I recognized it as a family name. Further investigation found that person was living with a relative and using their name. Subsequent records proved that person was the missing ancestor. I agree that it can be done in Legacy using a date range in search and find, but just sorting the db by birth date is so much easier and simpler. As I'm sure you are aware, some cultures use the mother's maiden name as the family name and as you trace back in time you will find that they are sometimes interchanged. Surnames can also change from country to country and in some places didn't even exist before 1800. When tracing Jewish ancestry it gets even more complicated and multiple surnames may be found in the same family. I have seen cases where two brothers have different surnames. The ability to sort on birth date is a proven tool. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:44 PM, ronald fergusonronfe...@msn.com wrote: Chick, I guess I did not express myself too well, the wildcard was suggested as an additional feature. Let us be realistic, one doesn't need any names at all to search by birth date, if two or more people are born on 16 Jan 1725 the odds are they are the same person or twins. This is not the problem. The problem arises mainly when the dates are different or no dates are available for at least one of the people. In the first case additional proof is needed to confirm, or otherwise, but if the names are miles apart in the list, and they could be if there is no date of birth, they may well not even be noticed if the name is different - unless wildcards are used. For example I commonly use F?rg* for my surname because of all the variations (and even that doesn't cover all of them!). Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:30:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See From: cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Ron, I raised this question again because I think it is important and is a strong feature if understood and used properly. With all due respect, (and I do respect your judgement, advice and excellent posts) your suggestion of using wild cards in the name in conjunction with a birth date search is at best a clumsy way of detecting possible duplicates. In the case of Rebecca's example of a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725, they would stand out as a possible duplication by doing nothing more than sorting on birth date. In another example, I had a David Kerido and a floater Dave Crudo in my data base, both with close, but not exactly the same birth dates. When I sorted the index on birth date, the similarity was evident. Upon further investigation they turned out to be the same person. Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: Chuck, We have had this discussion before, and I wonder why you have raised it agin. There is, as you know, a way of putting in an enhancement request on the Legacy Home Screen. For me, I would not wish to use this facility, and it would, therefore be program bloat. BTW, you did not indicate it would be optional in your first post. I do not agree with your comment regarding the use of search; if it is used properly, one can, for example, use wildcards in a name should you wish, and use it in conjunction with a date of birth. Much more useful and more pwerful then your proposal. Even in the indexes you can get all the people will the same surname, in date of birth order by selecting the RIN of the individual you wish to use as standard and then click the surname button at the top. Ron Ferguson
[LegacyUG] Index Sorting
I have been following the discussion with interest and suggest the following potential use for User Ids and index lists I have more than 150 men in my database named William Snell, most of whom have either no firm dates, or just a baptism or just a burial. Its really difficult trying to retrieve the right one as the name list does not sort by baptism date only by birth date, and that necessitates putting in unnecessary data in the birth field - currently using EST 1755 for example. However, I could create a User ID of WS1755 for this individual (or WS1755? if the early date was a guess) AND one was able to sort on User ID in the Index view, then I could see my individuals in the right order.. Then I wouldn't have to use EST in the birth field at all... I will suggest it to the powers that be. I guess if one could sort on user ID, then it would also be the same process to enable a sort on baptism, which would solve the problem. Marlene Pirongia, New Zealand Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
