RE: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker
By George, I think I got it - based on the 'thou shalt not' reponses - no attachments, no HTML and no humor to be added Bob Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Do *NOT* Send attachments of any kind to the list, please. That is a major no-no. Do *not* use HTML in your emails. Please restrict your emails to plain text. We have listers who are on dial-up or metered (limited) downloads and this is not good for them. Please review the Legacy User Group Guidelines on our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RUNION ROBERT Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:50 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Spell Checker One more time!!! I have tried to post this message three times over the past week, so if a duplicate materializes, I apologize in advance. I'm beginning to wonder if I've been blacklisted! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Most have switched?
I've used a number of genealogy programs over the past 10-15 years as most of us have done and I have found that Legacy is about the most versatile one I've ever used. It has a learning curve to be sure, but I suspect that you will be a spokesperson for it once you've used it for a while. I've been using it for a little over a year and am still learning all the benefits it has. Stay with it, you wont regret having learned to use it. My only desire would be that an Apple version would be developed so I could boot the Virtual Machine I have to run. I do understand that that is probably not going to happen due to the Access portion of the package - but I'm staying with Legacy anyway. :-) Bob Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com wrote: Well I, for one, had switched... I first used a genealogy program in 1988, and Legacy didn't exist at that point. I was very careful about changing programs for a lot of reasons (including a couple of bad experiences.) - but switched to Legacy a few years ago after being recommended by a friend (and then I read reviews etc.) I think with a careful read, that you are correct - the person was indicating that any genealogy program is overwhelming if it is their first ever genealogy program - and that even making a switch can take a while to get used to the differences.This is true in general of any computer program. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com wrote: Well that's sad. Is it really true? People only turn to Legacy after frustrations with other programs? I would have thought, after all these years, that most of us went looking for a genealogy program and chose Legacy, based on reviews, ads, free trials, etc. Legacy is the only program I have used. I chose it about 12 years ago and found it quite intuitive, relative to other (non-genealogy) programs I had used. (I realize Legacy was simpler then.) I have to skip over all the vague references on this list to FTM, etc., which are meaningless to me. I hope you are saying that _any_ first-time genealogy program can be overwhelming, depending on one's general computer experience, rather than saying that Legacy, in particular, is overwhelming. I suspect that following this List can often be much more overwhelming than basic use of the program itself. :-) Ward - Original Message - From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Lost and needing help Mary, Is this the first genealogy program you have used? I can see how it could be VERY overwhelming to someone who has never used a computer genealogy program before. Most of us have switched from other programs (and it still can be a little daunting). ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Global Spell Checker
When I first converted to Legacy via a GEDCOM file a year or so ago, I noted lots of words in the notes had been imported with a space in the word. i.e., ‘date’ might be ‘da te’, ‘birth’ might be ‘bir th’, etc. So, I have tried making manual corrections while using the ‘Global Spell Check’ feature. Unfortunately, when I encounter ‘da te’, there is no option available to make that into ‘date’, so after I complete the spell checking for a particular general note, I then select the ‘Skip to Next’ feature, which takes me to the next individual who has a note error. To check on my progress, I exit the spell checker and go to the note for the specific individual who I had just corrected. To my consternation, the note has not been corrected as I had hoped – the ‘da te’ type spelling error remain. This is not a fault with the spell checker, since it is looking for misspelled words, but this ‘da te’ issue isn’t being corrected either. I believe I have thousands of words like this in the notes for a lot of my entries and it appears to be a rather large undertaking to correct. Is there anyway to manually correct this during use of the spell checker as I am doing by making the manual correction and then select some feature that will permit this manual correction to take effect in my notes? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Step/Adopted Children and Charting
When my wife and I married, I adopted her daughter from my wife's previous marriage. I show my adopted daughter as '1/2' in the program, as I believe the instructions indicate. My problem is that when I do a chart, I would like to include her and my grandchildren. How can I accomplish this? The Legacy help files do not address this issue - at least I haven't found it and would appreciate some guidance. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Access and Burial Table
I have a rather large list of persons that are buried in a specific cemetery, but the individual records do not reflect this data. Is there an Access table that would permit me to add this data enmass without having to go to each person to enter this information? I've looked at all the tables, but could not locate one with the burial location cited. Bob -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Does anyone know how to increase max number of children from 60 to 99
Carl - Could you expand a bit on your system of tagging the individuals and/or the groups. I have a lot of unrelated folks in my system, and this might help me better manage the files. Bob Carl Cox ct...@getgoin.net wrote: I like the two suggestions I received. Thank you. I will start using the suggested approach instead of my current approach. I agree, it's misleading to have unconnected people linked as siblings. A couple of thoughts. I have a tag to designate unlinked individuals and groups. Also, using the tree finder, it would be easy to find all the unlinked trees, and they can also be tagged from there. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Capitalized Surnames
I have been cleaning up some hundreds of errors in the file via the 'Potential Problems' list but there is one item I do not seem to be able to correct. Somehow I have about 20 individual records where the surnames are permanently capitalized either by incorporating from a GEDCOM or from records I entered - can't tell at this point. I have tried to correct the capitalized surname by retyping it in the individual edit field, but the capitalized name continues to reappear when I 'save'. I have removed the offending capitalized name from tblNR and tblNX - but even though the capitalized name has been removed from these tables, it continues to plague me when I try to change it to the 'Smith' version on the individual edit. Even with deleting 'SMITH' from the tables and selecting the 'smith' name from the drop down arrow in the individual surname edit, it defaults to the 'SMITH' capitalized version on 'save' - even though 'SMITH' does not appear in the list. When 'SMITH' does appear in the list, I have tried to combine it with 'smith', and even though this occurs and only 'smith' remains, when I try to select and 'save' 'smith' from the individual edit feature, the surname reverts to 'SMITH'. It is not of monumental significance, but having Smith default to SMITH is an aggravation and I would like some advice on how to remove and correct this. Bob -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question
Jenny - If I created a new source with all the data I wanted that 'mirrors' an older one, and then combined the older one with the new one, would all the sources be changed to the new source? It seems to me that I have tried this and the data is now reflected with the new source. Could you elaborate on the consequences of this? Bob Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: I was wondering if I could change the specific Master Sources I created (e.g., Giovanni Barberi's Civil Birth Record, 22 Jan 1833, Cerreto Sannita, Italy) and transform them into a general Master Source (e.g., Civil Birth Records 1809-1860, Cerreto Sannita, Italy). If I can do that, it will make my effort much easier. It's easy enough to amend or edit a Master Source and then EITHER save it to overwrite the previous version OR save it as a new version with a different name. If you take the former option, you will then need to go to each person using that Master Source and change the Source Details as appropriate. If you take the latter option, no one will be using the newly created Source and you can then go through your file attaching that new Master Source as required, with appropriate Source Details. In that case, you will probably also be deleting the old Source from some people. Having said that, I would think about how many people and Sources you have entered and decide whether it is worth starting again from scratch. You do not need to re-enter all the individuals' data, just delete the Master Sources, create new ones and attach as required. Also, since I have created specific Details associated with each specific Master Source, could I amend those Details to include more detail and link them to the appropriate newly created Master Sources? If you edit a Master Source and re-save it with the same name, you can then go to anyone using that Source and edit the Source Details. But if you delete a Master Source you will also delete any Source Details attached to it and if you create a new Master Source (either from scratch or by amending an existing one) there will be no Source Details to edit. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Changing RINs and MRINs in 7.0 deluxe
From personal experience, be sure that that is what you do want to do - i.e.., change the RIN/MRIN numbering, expecially if you have personal File ID numbers associated with to your research papers based on these numbers. I have been working for the past month or so trying to get my records straightened out because I did not observe the 'renumber RIN MRIN' check box and to my great chagrin renumbering took place unbeknownst to me. The result - all my hundreds of hard copy files backing up my digital files, based on a MRIN numbering system, changed and I didn 't catch it for about a month. In retrospect, I should have used only Master Sources instead of Detailed File ID's, but that ship has sailed. So, I have been laboriously working my way through 20,000 names to get back to some semblance of order. Right now I'm wading my way through a 60 page File ID report to identify those numbers that I need to correct. So far, I am about 80-% recoved, but learned a valuable lesson. I had 3 backups of my .fdb files, unfortunately, these backups contained the wrong information before I discovered it. The end result - watch the little boxes when you change anything - they can have far reaching effects - you know 'the law of unintended consequences' is always alive and waiting. :-) Bob Kathy Shiell-Stokes shearerfamilyt...@3web.com wrote: Ellen: The best and easiest way is to export your entire database to a gedcom and then import it into a new file making sure that,when importing, you have ticked the box entitledrenumber RINs. You can select your starting point so rather than starting at number 1, all records from this import could start at 3000. I believe several LUGGers have some creative methods for numbering the RINs in their file. I would caution you though that should you be composing webpages, the RINs become the individual pages so such a renumbering would be a really wholesale change and likely not one that people would take just for an afternoons entertainment. That said, individual RINs CAN be renumbered to suit your fancy, if at a later date you need to make changes... Kathy08:19 AM 29/08/2009, you wrote: Does anyone know how to change all of the RINs and MRINs in some easy manner for over 3100 names in 7.0 deluxe? snip... Ellen Kramer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] adding Military even bug?
Ron - I realize this doesn't relate to genealogybut - That sounds like a great benefit. We have so much confusion here in the USA on the bill being proposed, that it is impossible to separate the propaganda from the truth. I was hoping some of our news folks would write a series of articles outling the programs in other countries - but they don't seem to have the desire. BTW - I'm 76, so its good to hear that you are able to acquire treatment at our age. :-) Bob Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: ronald ferguson wrote: Actually, Mike, it's a hospital cateract job free on the NHS, and I'm 70, and it will be done within a month (none urgent). That's for the benefit of some of our American cousins :-). Had the first one done last year! I'm quite the young whipper-snapper then at 57! -- Best regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Using Access to Change Data
Dennis - I have not been able to use your suggestion - mostly because I couldn't figure out where to start. I am certainly not comfortable with Access, except to view and some items and then export to an Excel spreadsheet for further actions. At the risk of appearing dumber than I am, could you show me hgow to start the formula you described in your earlier message? Bob On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:54:05 -0500, RUNION ROBERT s...@cox.net wrote: Dennis - Is there anyway to use ACCESS to populate the burial address to all those buried in a specific cemetery? I find after viewing the suggestions here that I have a lot of folks I know are buried in a specific cemetery, but it would take a lot of key strokes to get this data into my file if I can not do so via Access. Please advise. Yes. It shouldn't be too difficult. Something like... UPDATE tblAR, tblIR SET tblIR.IDARBuried=[tblAR]![IDAR] WHERE ((tblIR.IDARBuried=0) AND (tblIR.IDIR0) AND (tblIR.Tag1=1) AND (tblAR.AddrName=XYZ Cemetery)) ... sets the Burial Address to XYZ Cemetery for anyone on Tag #1 who does not already have a Burial Address. This was done quick dirty so it may require more testing. The usual caveat re backing up your database before doing anything in Access applies. ;-) -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Table Usage Access
A few weeks back, I indicated that I needed to change all my filing numbers because of a problem encountered after importing a GEDCOM file - i.e., I did not check the appropriate box of 'retain RIN and MRIN numbers' and all my Detail File ID numbers were changed in error and I need to renumber them. A couple of suggestions I received indicated that I was on the right tract that might permit me to change them in tblSX using Access - unfortunately, I have discovered that even if I change the 'Filing REF' data, the change doesn't 'take' in my 'bob.fdb' file when I re-opened it in Legacy. Any suggestions on a method to do mass changes to Detail File ID's when in Access? Note: These errors were only detected after several weeks of data entry and my backups are not the original backup with the former Detail File ID numbers. Changing them one at a time is very labor intensive, plus I am not certain if I have fixed all the changes I need to make. Bob -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Table Usage Access
Dennis et al - I don't know how to make it any plainer - I want to change the File Detail ID number from 1234-1 to 9876-01. I would like to use Access to enter 9876-01 in lieu of 12340-1 in the 'File Ref' field or whichever table this will work on. I woiuykld liek to do it this way so I can see if I covered all of the changes I need to make. My attempt to change it by opening one of my saved .fdb files in Access, then using the tblSX, making the changes and then when I exited Access and opened the .fdb file, the changes did not occur - so. If this explanation doesn't cover it, I'll move on. =I Valerie Laskowski lask...@att.net wrote: The FilingRef field is in BOTH tblSX and tblSR tables. Double check at which level that you entered the text for FileID. If you Edit Master Source and want it on that screen -- then use tblSR. If you Edit Detail and want it on that screen -- then use tblSX. Valerie -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:42 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Table Usage Access On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 5:27:28 -0400, SgtBob s...@cox.net wrote: A couple of suggestions I received indicated that I was on the right tract that might permit me to change them in tblSX using Access - unfortunately, I have discovered that even if I change the 'Filing REF' data, the change doesn't 'take' in my 'bob.fdb' file when I re-opened it in Legacy. Then my guess is that you updated the wrong row in tblSX. tblSX is a tricky devil. See ... http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/help/v1/tblSX_Type.htm ... for more info on the tblSX.Type column and how it relates to tblSX.IDIME. Since it appears that you may have updated the wrong rows, I hope you restored your database back to where it was before you made the Access updates. Any suggestions on a method to do mass changes to Detail File ID's when in Access? Sure. I can write a very simple UPDATE query that will change every File ID in your database to Fred Flintstone. But I don't think that's what you want! Do you mean change every occurrence of 1234-5 to 9876-4? Give us some detailed requirements and we can tell you if it is possible. Lay it out logically so we don't have to guess what you mean. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Access Table
I do not have the original GEDCOM since this occurred some time ago. I think I will just wade through the 800+ Files, change the current filing and try to remember this incident when I next utilize a GEDCOM. Live and learn. Dennis - I realize that MRIN's do not have dashes in them, but this is one of those file systems encountered some time ago that utilizes the method I tried to describe. Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry - I seemed to have deleted my answer while clearing out the extra stuff. If the Gedcom is still available - make a new file, import the gedcom, and don't renumber the MRIN's On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Heather Stovold hstov...@gmail.comwrote: He imported from a gedcom, renumbering his MRIN's. He wants a way to re-number them the way they were. -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Access Table
I have encountered a colossal problem that was brought about by an action I must have inadvertently taken (shame on me) to allow a re-numbering of one or more fields - specifically the MRIN numbers. Evidently I wasn't paying attention on a GEDCOM upload feature and didn't discover this until yesterday - after several of these uploads occurred to my dismay. My problem - I use the 'MRIN+number' feature to file paper documents and also enter this number in the detail 'FileID' box in Legacy. I'm in the process of renumbering these hundreds of documents due to the above situation - a most laborious project!!! My Hope - Is there any table, when viewing a 'Bob1.fdb' (I have a multitude of backups thank goodness), in Access that would permit me to enter/alter the File ID? I have looked at my 'tblSX' and observe that there are a number of items that look like my MRIN+number data under the column entitled 'Filing Ref' . This appears to be a possible opportunity to correct my errors. Is it possible that changing/correcting/entering the current File Id number (noted as my MRIN+number) in this column might accomplish my goal? If not, please suggest a solution. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Access Table
Dennis - When I set up my paper source filing system to support my digital files, I numbered master sources with 9000 series. i.e., 9212 might be 'Marriage License in Dead Center, Kansas'. Then I might assign 9030 as the Master source for Joe and Susie who married in said location, but filed their marriage license as 3211-1, 321 being their MRIN. This works for me - whether acceptable to others , I don't know. Now, the problem is that I did not recognize by moving my file to another PC via GEDCOM, I failed to recognize that MRIN 3211 might now become MRIN 4401 because of the renumbering. So, my 'FileID' of 3211-1 now does not allow me to find Joe and Susie by entering MRIN 3211 in the search field because 3211 is now assigned to Sam and Martha. I am seeking reassurance that if I change the MRIN from 3211-1 to the MRIN of Joe and Susie in the re-numbered system via Access, can I enter their new MRIN of 5617-1 in lieu of 3211-1 in table tblSX field FilingRef (the15th field) as proposed by Jennie and Valerie? Can I then save the .fdb file and open it in Legacy and find that the change took place as I would like. I porpose to do as they suggested for a test case, but would appreciate feedback I realize you basically asked for the time and I described how to make a watch. It is hard to write the problem and hope that the question is lucid. :-) I suppose experimentation is what I need to do - just needed some guidance from folks more acquainted with the Access package than I. Bob Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:21:16 -0400, SgtBob s...@cox.net wrote: I have looked at my 'tblSX' and observe that there are a number of items that look like my MRIN+number data under the column entitled 'Filing Ref' . This appears to be a possible opportunity to correct my errors. Is it possible that changing/correcting/entering the current File Id number (noted as my MRIN+number) in this column might accomplish my goal? If not, please suggest a solution. I'm not quite understanding what it is you want to do here. Could you explain again with an example? -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Double Source Data Entry
I have encountered a problem (whether of my own making or whatever) that is causing me to re-visit a ton of entries to correct. I noticed this when I printed a small sample book and after reviewing several dozen entries, I noticed the following Source Citation sample (it is one of many): 7. TENNESSEE-Washington-County-Land-Action, TENNESSEE-Washington-County-Land-Actions ID: 9027. 8. REVOLUTIONARY-WAR-Pension-Abstracts, REVOLUTIONARY-WAR-Pension-Abstracts ID: 9111. As you can see in the above sample, the data appears twice when viewing the Source Citations portion of the book. I see the problem in my Legacy .fdb when I go to 'show list of assigned sources icon -- click on one of the 'assigned sources events' -- select 'edit detail' -- observe 'footnote/endnote citation:' -- select 'Click here to go to override tab'. Then Is when I see the duplication. I opened one of my saved .fdb files in Access, but was unable to see this problem in any of the columns on any of tables, so I can not correct this via Access (I'm not sure, but ...). Does anyone know of an easier method of getting this corrected than one-at-a-time? Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Double Source Data Entry
Disregard - I found what my error is and correction will not be as difficult as I had thought. It seems that when sources are entered into the system, there is one title identified as the 'Source List Name' (Shown in the Master Source List) and teh other is the 'Title' - both of which appear in any endnotes. My mistake is that I duplicated the 'Source List Name' entry into the 'Title' for lack of a better explanation. It appears that one has to have the 'Source List Name' entered, but any Title is superfluous if it is identical the 'Source List Name' - which most of mine are. So I will be able to correct my master sources and corredt my problem. Sorry to take up everyone's time. Bob SgtBob s...@cox.net wrote: I have encountered a problem (whether of my own making or whatever) that is causing me to re-visit a ton of entries to correct. I noticed this when I printed a small sample book and after reviewing several dozen entries, I noticed the following Source Citation sample (it is one of many): 7. TENNESSEE-Washington-County-Land-Action, TENNESSEE-Washington-County-Land-Actions ID: 9027. 8. REVOLUTIONARY-WAR-Pension-Abstracts, REVOLUTIONARY-WAR-Pension-Abstracts ID: 9111. As you can see in the above sample, the data appears twice when viewing the Source Citations portion of the book. I see the problem in my Legacy .fdb when I go to 'show list of assigned sources icon -- click on one of the 'assigned sources events' -- select 'edit detail' -- observe 'footnote/endnote citation:' -- select 'Click here to go to override tab'. Then Is when I see the duplication. I opened one of my saved .fdb files in Access, but was unable to see this problem in any of the columns on any of tables, so I can not correct this via Access (I'm not sure, but ...). Does anyone know of an easier method of getting this corrected than one-at-a-time? Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Double Source Data Entry
Thank you Dennis - that solved my problem without having to change anything. Since I had started chaning some of those, it is a great thing to have a backup in place.. Bob Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:43:23 -0400, SgtBob s...@cox.net wrote: It seems that when sources are entered into the system, there is one title identified as the 'Source List Name' (Shown in the Master Source List) and teh other is the 'Title' - both of which appear in any endnotes. My mistake is that I duplicated the 'Source List Name' entry into the 'Title' for lack of a better explanation. It appears that one has to have the 'Source List Name' entered, but any Title is superfluous if it is identical the 'Source List Name' - which most of mine are. So I will be able to correct my master sources and corredt my problem. You want to leave them both there. To correct the problem you are having go to OptionsCustomizeSources (in V6) and uncheck the box that says Include Source List Name as part of the source citation pages on reports. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Step Children Plus a Printing Question
I have a couple of questions on which I need some help: (1) I adopted my step-daughter and would like to show her as such in my family. How do I do that? I only seem to be able to add her as my daughter but I would like for her to show as the daughter of her biological Father for the genealogy line? (2) How do I save the report output to Open Office? I like some of their covers, etc. Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Notes VS Events Text
A few days ago, I posed what I thought was a problem with end notes in version 97 - it turns out there is no problem - just me Subject topic - What are the recommendations or group thoughts on where to put Obituary text? I have placed most of them in the event area and entered the obitiuary/writeup into the text/comments block. When I prepare a Book/Narrative, these appear in the end notes. Now I am wondering if placing them in the General notes would be more appropriate. When reading a book, the general notes appear right below the individual in lieu of being a concise entry showing the idata is at the end. In accounting there are' Generally Accepted Accounting Practices' - so is the 'Generally Accepted Genealogical Entry' for such items. Or - is it a personal preference? Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Anyone else experience lost data?
I need to do some further review of the latest (97) update, but in a book report I prepared this date, the event's written data did not appear in the end-notes as I had previously observed. I will make more notes later to see if there is something I may have omitted. Bob ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Rich, I understand that Vista will not allow data files in the Programmes Folder, which is, of course where Legacy would try to put them if it was installed in that folder. hence Legacy's instruction to install the program in C:\. I do have Vista and have never had a problem by installing Legacy in C:\ as recommended. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:15:39 -0700 From: fourpa...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Anyone else experience lost data? To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Since I don't have Vista, I don't know for sure, but I have heard V is more picky about directory stuff, (especially after it was changed after working the 'other' way first). Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: From: Dennis M. Kowallek Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Anyone else experience lost data? To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 3:24 PM On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:37:47 -0700 (PDT), Patti Wyble wrote: I may have accidentally caused this problem by putting Legacy in C:\Program Files\Legacy instead of C:\Legacy. I wanted to keep all my program files in one place, so I wouldn't forget C:\Legacy when I made backups, but I think that this directory automatically becomes read-only. Insight on that theory would be appreciated. That sounds like your problem. It has something to do with virtualization in Vista. See http://windowsconnected.com/blogs/jerry/archive/2005/12/19/86.aspx. I believe Legacy's Vista installation instructions tell you not to install in the C:\Program Files folder ... for a good reason. Always follow instructions. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools _ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy and MS Access
I keep three .fdb files (bob1.fdb, bob2.fdb and bob3.fdb) plus off site files as well as a GEDCOM just to be sure I don't lose my current and original data. Currently, I use Access only for informational purposes in a couple of tables in Access - mostly to check out Source numbers and/or Detail Number I assigned and then save tdata as an Excel file where I am able to print some reports, etc. However, if I change anything in a column while in MS Access and want it to appear in my basic Legacy file, how do I do that? For example, if I change a 'bob1.fdb' file to 'bob1.mdb' file, open it and change an item, how do I get this 'bob1.mdb' back to a useable 'bob1.fdb'? I think I tried it once and all I got were errors, so thankfully, I was able to resurrect my 'bob2.fdb' file and continue. Information appreciated on how to use this feature to where one could mass correct erroneous data brought to Legacy from GEDCOM or other sources. Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and MS Access
Dennis - I'll try the '*.fdb' feature in Access as you suggested. Regarding '...you probably edited something you shouldn't have...' - anything specific I should avoid in this area? Bob Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:42:39 -0400, SgtBob s...@cox.net wrote: For example, if I change a 'bob1.fdb' file to 'bob1.mdb' file, open it and change an item, how do I get this 'bob1.mdb' back to a useable 'bob1.fdb'? Always make a backup before opening your Legacy databases in Access. In the first place, it's a misconception that you must rename your .fdb file to .mdb in order to open it in MS Access. In the File|Open dialog in Access, change the File Name to *.fdb to see your Legacy databases and open them directly. I think I tried it once and all I got were errors, so thankfully, I was able to resurrect my 'bob2.fdb' file and continue. Secondly, you should be able to rename your .fdb to .mdb, edit it, then rename it back to .fdb without a problem. Though I would recommend making a backup and then directly editing the .fdb. If you get errors doing this you probably edited something you shouldn't have. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG]
Minor question - I have located a URL source from rootsweb that I would like to add to my Legacy data. Where do most folks place the URL? I initially entered the URL in the burial data box,which seems logical to enable me to get to that site as needed; however, I discovered that it didn't print on a Book Report Narrative. I then re-entered the URL as a 'Comment ' in an event, and it appeared as part of the endnotes. What is the recommended place to enter this type data? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy seminar
Viewed the videos and they were most informative. Thanks for sharing Geoff... Bob Geoff Rasmussen geo...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Thanks again to everyone who helped test the Legacy seminar videos. The new seminar page is now at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/seminars.asp with three versions of each video. I also just published the LegacyNews article about it at http://tinyurl.com/lxh7on. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation ge...@legacyfamilytree.com www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Access
Rich - I wanted to know what the various data in the columns represent. I can figure out most of them, but what do the first 3-4 columns of data in the tblSX and tblSR mean? I.e., what do the numbers in those columns represent? It might help me to work in Access on some errors I am trying to correct if I could figure out their meaning and connection to the Legacy data. Bob RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: When I used to use Access at work, I printed a partial list of field names and the 'long' versions for them. It is in the bottom of my file cabinet, since the computer I created it on is long gone to the dump, I will try to find it. I am curious about the reasons for 'explains the columnar headings and their uses within the various Access reports.' Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Access To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 5:02 AM On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 6:48:42 -0400, SgtBob s...@cox.net wrote: is there any data written out that explains the columnar headings and their uses within the various Access reports. I don't know of anything public that goes into this detail. I created a list of the various Legacy tables and published it at: http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/help/v1/tables.htm But I did not write up anything on the columns and how they were used. That would take a lot of time. You can figure these things out easily enough by doing a little experimenting. Create a test database and play around. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Access
Didn't mean to upset folks in asking about the Access data. I will review the items under the design feature and see if I can figure out the data. I'm not that familiar with all the nuances of Access, so I will study it and refrain from asking more questions on this area. Obviously a sore point... sorry. Bob Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: SgtBob wrote Rich - I wanted to know what the various data in the columns represent. I can figure out most of them, but what do the first 3-4 columns of data in the tblSX and tblSR mean? I.e., what do the numbers in those columns represent? IDSX is an ID number for each entry in tblSX and IDSR is an ID number for each entry in tblSR. IDSR then appears in tblSX to link each Source Detail to the relevant Master Source. IDIME is the Individual's RIN which allows the Source Detail to be linked to the correct Individual. If I remember correctly, TYPE refers to the Event which is being Sourced - 1 being Birth, for example. Which fields in tblSR are you referring to. When I look at it that table the 2nd to 4th fields are SrcName, SrcTitle and SrcAuthor which I would have thought are fairly self-explanatory. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy and Access
Since I have heard that Legacy and Access are intertwined, is there any data written out that explains the columnar headings and their uses within the various Access reports. I am particularly interested in the correlation of the numbers noted in the columnar headings of 'SrcDetail', 'FilingRef', 'IDSR', etc. I have made some use of the Access files to locate and review some of my source numbers and detail numbers, but would like to know what those other columns represent. It may be that some issues I have encountered could be addressed via the Access route. Please advise. Bob /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue
That feature is checked when I start the GEDCOM, but the end result remains the same - only 218 of the 299 sources are shown in the new family file when I open it in Legacy with this new GEDCOM. Bob Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: On the main Gedcom export window, make sure you have selected Override Source Options. If you click on the context-sensitive Help button while in the Gedcom Export window, you'll find the following section in the Exporting Gedcom Files topic: Override Source options - include everything With this option selected, all the information from each source citation detail is exported to the GEDCOM file. If unselected, the information that is suppressed, according to the source detail options, is excluded from the GEDCOM export. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of s...@cox.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue Importance: High I'm running into a problem that I can not resolve. In my main family file, I have 299 sources and want to prepare a GECCOM to share with a cousin that includes all people, families and sources. If I prepare the GEDCOM to include all persons and families in the file, not all of the sources get included. I checked the GEDCOM output by opening it into a new family file; however, when this file is opened, the total number of persons and families is the same as in my original file, unfortunately, only 218 of the 299 sources are in the 'check file'. I've tried to extract a portion of my files (i.e., a line of 300 people) and the number of persons and families appear as well as the number of sources when this is opened into a new family. In other words, the check file is an exact duplicate. Why does this not work when preparing a GDCOM of the total file? I have reviewed the file in Access and the full complement of 299 sources are present. Anyone have an idea what I have done wrong and a suggested solution to have all 299 sources get pulled into the GEDCOM. Bob Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue
Ron - I had thought of that also, but I checked about 10 of the missing ones and each are addressed as a source for at least one person in the file. Bob ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Bob, Is there a common factor between the 71 sources which are missing? Are any of them actually unused? Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:52:43 -0400 From: s...@cox.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue CC: she...@legacyfamilytree.com That feature is checked when I start the GEDCOM, but the end result remains the same - only 218 of the 299 sources are shown in the new family file when I open it in Legacy with this new GEDCOM. Bob Sherry/Support wrote: On the main Gedcom export window, make sure you have selected Override Source Options. If you click on the context-sensitive Help button while in the Gedcom Export window, you'll find the following section in the Exporting Gedcom Files topic: Override Source options - include everything With this option selected, all the information from each source citation detail is exported to the GEDCOM file. If unselected, the information that is suppressed, according to the source detail options, is excluded from the GEDCOM export. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of s...@cox.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue Importance: High I'm running into a problem that I can not resolve. In my main family file, I have 299 sources and want to prepare a GECCOM to share with a cousin that includes all people, families and sources. If I prepare the GEDCOM to include all persons and families in the file, not all of the sources get included. I checked the GEDCOM output by opening it into a new family file; however, when this file is opened, the total number of persons and families is the same as in my original file, unfortunately, only 218 of the 299 sources are in the 'check file'. I've tried to extract a portion of my files (i.e., a line of 300 people) and the number of persons and families appear as well as the number of sources when this is opened into a new family. In other words, the check file is an exact duplicate. Why does this not work when preparing a GDCOM of the total file? I have reviewed the file in Access and the full complement of 299 sources are present. Anyone have an idea what I have done wrong and a suggested solution to have all 299 sources get pulled into the GEDCOM. Bob _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue
Color me red (as in embarassed!!!) - Richard and others helped me see where I was going wrong. I even responded to some that 'oh yes, all my sources are assigned to persons in my file' - well, much as I hate to admit it, I have some 80+ sources that I had scanned into my PC and had them loaded into the Master Source BUT - I had not entered the source data as an event to the people in the file. Now, in retrospect, I would call that just plain DUMB! I guess when I entered these into my PC and the master list, I figured I would revisit them at a later date - didn't happen, so I have lots of work to do. I do appreciate the suggestions and help in isolating this problem. I have corrected about a dozen of these oversights and now my GEDCOM is reflecting the additioanl sources when I load it to a new file. Bob ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Bob, Which could suggest that there is something in those 18 files, or something relating to the sources attached to the Events in those files which is causing the problewm. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:52:33 -0400 From: older...@rochester.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue Folks I have no answer to this, but I think you're looking at it upside down. When he exports his ENTIRE file to a GEDCOM, he gets PART of his sources extracted. (261) When he exports PART of his file to a GEDCOM, he gets ALL of his sources extracted. (299) That's the reverse of what you'd expect ... no matter what flags are set, what boxes are checked, whether sources are used or unused, or whether individuals are marked private or not. Regards, Bob RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: This is only a guess. Do you have unattached sources? Identify at least one source that isn't printing, and check 'Show List' for that one, then check those people for any marks that resemble private, or don't print. This could also be an unfound 'bug'. Rich in LA CA _ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue
The horrible part of this is that some of these sources are huge and I will need to tie all them to the persons in the file - guess what I will be doing for the next year - re-posting of data that I thought I had done earlier. The sound of weeping is here in front of my MAC! :-) Bob RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: We all win. (Most of us knew because we did it before.) Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 4/18/09, SgtBob s...@cox.net wrote: From: SgtBob s...@cox.net Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Cc: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 2:39 PM Color me red (as in embarassed!!!) - Richard and others helped me see where I was going wrong. I even responded to some that 'oh yes, all my sources are assigned to persons in my file' - well, much as I hate to admit it, I have some 80+ sources that I had scanned into my PC and had them loaded into the Master Source BUT - I had not entered the source data as an event to the people in the file. Now, in retrospect, I would call that just plain DUMB! I guess when I entered these into my PC and the master list, I figured I would revisit them at a later date - didn't happen, so I have lots of work to do. I do appreciate the suggestions and help in isolating this problem. I have corrected about a dozen of these oversights and now my GEDCOM is reflecting the additioanl sources when I load it to a new file. Bob ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Bob, Which could suggest that there is something in those 18 files, or something relating to the sources attached to the Events in those files which is causing the problewm. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:52:33 -0400 From: older...@rochester.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Issue Folks I have no answer to this, but I think you're looking at it upside down. When he exports his ENTIRE file to a GEDCOM, he gets PART of his sources extracted. (261) When he exports PART of his file to a GEDCOM, he gets ALL of his sources extracted. (299) That's the reverse of what you'd expect ... no matter what flags are set, what boxes are checked, whether sources are used or unused, or whether individuals are marked private or not. Regards, Bob RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: This is only a guess. Do you have unattached sources? Identify at least one source that isn't printing, and check 'Show List' for that one, then check those people for any marks that resemble private, or don't print. This could also be an unfound 'bug'. Rich in LA CA _ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- /Users/robertrunion/Desktop/eMail Icons/signature.pdf Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
