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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread johnbernacki1

Pasting from MS Word works until you save it. Then the Eastern European special 
characters turn into bizarre symbols.

John

From: Andrew Robbie 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 1:37 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

You can always copy/paste from something like MS Word that supports inserting 
special characters.

 

Or the ‘Alt’ + numeric keypad short cut should work directly into Legacy…

 

A

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Jon M
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:38 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

 

Thanks Ian and Otso,

 

Trying the character map within Windows 10 does not work. I tried. Thank you 
both for the suggestions. 


Cheers, Jon

(Sent from a mobile device)

 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 5:29 PM Ian Thomas  wrote:

  Possibly the Windows Accessories group, then 2nd item in the list, Windows 
Character Map (for Windows 10, English language)

  I.L. Thomas
  Victoria Park, Western Australia


  -Original Message-
  From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Otso Havu
  Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 8:00 AM
  To: Legacy User Group 
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

  Sorry, I have a Finnish Win so help is only approximate now.

  Start > roll to  Windows tools --- just after Windows Power shell --- look 
for a topless pyramide with special characters : select it :
  select a character, pick and paste to Legacy

  ti 26. marrask. 2019 klo 1.35 Cathy Pinner (genea...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
  >
  > Jon,
  >
  > Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are 
  > in the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options > 
  > Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the 
  > square at the top of it to see all characters.
  > I don't think the one you want is available.
  >
  > Cathy
  >
  >
  > > Jon M 
  > > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
  > > Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special 
  > > alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals 
  > > in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special 
  > > characters.
  > >
  > > For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I 
  > > would like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. 
  > > Is this possible?
  > >
  > > My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. 
  > > Note, I do not speak or write in either of these languages.
  > >
  > > Thank you!
  > > Jon
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Andrew Robbie

You can always copy/paste from something like MS Word that supports inserting 
special characters.

 

Or the ‘Alt’ + numeric keypad short cut should work directly into Legacy…

 

A

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Jon M
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 8:38 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

 

Thanks Ian and Otso,

 

Trying the character map within Windows 10 does not work. I tried. Thank you 
both for the suggestions. 


Cheers, Jon

(Sent from a mobile device)

 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 5:29 PM Ian Thomas mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Possibly the Windows Accessories group, then 2nd item in the list, Windows 
Character Map (for Windows 10, English language)

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Otso Havu
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 8:00 AM
To: Legacy User Group mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

Sorry, I have a Finnish Win so help is only approximate now.

Start > roll to  Windows tools --- just after Windows Power shell --- look for 
a topless pyramide with special characters : select it :
select a character, pick and paste to Legacy

ti 26. marrask. 2019 klo 1.35 Cathy Pinner (genea...@gmail.com 
 ) kirjoitti:
>
> Jon,
>
> Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are 
> in the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options > 
> Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the 
> square at the top of it to see all characters.
> I don't think the one you want is available.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> > Jon M  >
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
> > Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special 
> > alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals 
> > in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special 
> > characters.
> >
> > For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I 
> > would like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. 
> > Is this possible?
> >
> > My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. 
> > Note, I do not speak or write in either of these languages.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Ian Thomas

Possibly the Windows Accessories group, then 2nd item in the list, Windows 
Character Map (for Windows 10, English language)

I.L. Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Otso Havu
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2019 8:00 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

Sorry, I have a Finnish Win so help is only approximate now.

Start > roll to  Windows tools --- just after Windows Power shell --- look for 
a topless pyramide with special characters : select it :
select a character, pick and paste to Legacy

ti 26. marrask. 2019 klo 1.35 Cathy Pinner (genea...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
>
> Jon,
>
> Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are 
> in the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options > 
> Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the 
> square at the top of it to see all characters.
> I don't think the one you want is available.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> > Jon M 
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
> > Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special 
> > alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals 
> > in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special 
> > characters.
> >
> > For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I 
> > would like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. 
> > Is this possible?
> >
> > My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. 
> > Note, I do not speak or write in either of these languages.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Otso Havu

Sorry, I have a Finnish Win so help is only approximate now.

Start > roll to  Windows tools --- just after Windows Power shell ---
look for a topless pyramide with special characters : select it :
select a character, pick and paste to Legacy

ti 26. marrask. 2019 klo 1.35 Cathy Pinner (genea...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
>
> Jon,
>
> Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are in
> the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options >
> Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the square
> at the top of it to see all characters.
> I don't think the one you want is available.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> > Jon M 
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
> > Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special
> > alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals
> > in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special
> > characters.
> >
> > For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I would
> > like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. Is this
> > possible?
> >
> > My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. Note,
> > I do not speak or write in either of these languages.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Jon M

Again, thanks so much for the information. I'm glad it's on the road map,
but disappointed that it may not be implemented for a while.

Cheers, Jon

(Sent from a mobile device)

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 3:51 PM Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Jon,
> Use of more characters is already on the suggestion list and has been
> for some time. There is a difficulty with adding them with the current
> program architecture.
> Cathy
>
> > Jon M 
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 7:47 AM
> > Ok. Thanks for the information. Is this something I can make a feature
> > request?
> >
> > Cheers, Jon
> >
> > (Sent from a mobile device)
> >
> >
> >
> > Cathy Pinner 
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 7:34 AM
> > Jon,
> >
> > Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are
> > in the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options >
> > Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the
> > square at the top of it to see all characters.
> > I don't think the one you want is available.
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> >
> >
> > Jon M 
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
> > Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special
> > alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals
> > in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special
> > characters.
> >
> > For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I would
> > like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. Is this
> > possible?
> >
> > My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. Note,
> > I do not speak or write in either of these languages.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Cathy Pinner


Jon,
Use of more characters is already on the suggestion list and has been 
for some time. There is a difficulty with adding them with the current 
program architecture.

Cathy


Jon M 
Tuesday, 26 November 2019 7:47 AM
Ok. Thanks for the information. Is this something I can make a feature 
request?


Cheers, Jon

(Sent from a mobile device)



Cathy Pinner 
Tuesday, 26 November 2019 7:34 AM
Jon,

Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are 
in the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options > 
Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the 
square at the top of it to see all characters.

I don't think the one you want is available.

Cathy



Jon M 
Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special 
alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals 
in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special 
characters.


For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I would 
like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. Is this 
possible?


My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. Note, 
I do not speak or write in either of these languages.


Thank you!
Jon






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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Jon M

Ok. Thanks for the information. Is this something I can make a feature
request?

Cheers, Jon

(Sent from a mobile device)

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 3:35 PM Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Jon,
>
> Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are in
> the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options >
> Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the square
> at the top of it to see all characters.
> I don't think the one you want is available.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> > Jon M 
> > Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
> > Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special
> > alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals
> > in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special
> > characters.
> >
> > For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I would
> > like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. Is this
> > possible?
> >
> > My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. Note,
> > I do not speak or write in either of these languages.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Cathy Pinner


Jon,

Not all characters can be used in Legacy. Those that can be used are in 
the Character Map in the program. Make sure it is on at Options > 
Customise 4.6. Then when you see this Character Ribbon, click the square 
at the top of it to see all characters.

I don't think the one you want is available.

Cathy



Jon M 
Tuesday, 26 November 2019 5:06 AM
Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special 
alphabet characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals 
in the tree from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special 
characters.


For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I would 
like to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. Is this 
possible?


My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. Note, 
I do not speak or write in either of these languages.


Thank you!
Jon






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[LegacyUG] Using special alphabet characters in Legacy

2019-11-25 Thread Jon M

Can someone point me in the right direction on how to use special alphabet
characters in Legacy? I have a large portion of individuals in the tree
from Lithuania and Slovenia. Both alphabets have special characters.

For example, I have a last name of Janaviče in Lithuanian, and I would like
to be able to have the lower "C" hachek used in Legacy. Is this possible?

My Windows 10 software is using English as the primary language. Note, I do
not speak or write in either of these languages.

Thank you!
Jon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-25 Thread Pete Beatty

A lesson I learned: In the 1800’s and early 1900’s, the majority of
individuals could not spell. Therefore, when they would need to record
their name, they relied on the individual completing the form, to spell
their names. This resulted in numerous and different spellings for the same
individual.

I have one record where the spelling of the same individual has 6 different
spellings.


On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:04 AM Ward Walker  wrote:

> Christopher,
>
> That could be helpful. Could you elaborate? I looked for a reference to
> the ‘Passenger Arrival Lists’ on the Ellis Island web site but did not find
> it. Do you know what became of these ledgers? What were they used for? Did
> they really have an impact on how the immigrant was named, once settled in
> their destination community? Were they used during the naturalization
> process? I see that what FamilySearch.org calls a ‘New York Passenger
> Arrival List’ is just a ship manifest. And additional googling for
> ‘passenger arrival lists’ also turns up only ship manifests.
>
>Ward
>
> *From:* Christopher Seward Sr.
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:33 PM
> *To:* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated
>
>
> And those manifests were used to fill out Passenger Arrival Lists (what I
> and others refer to as ledgers).  This comes directly from the Ellis Island
> website.
>
> I'm not sure why people are so passionate about stating that these errors
> never happened, when indeed they did, even according to those who made them.
>
> This should be about encouraging people to be creative about their
> research, not limiting it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christopher (genealogist for 40+ years)
> On 11/23/2019 2:56 PM, mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>
>
>
> First, the name was not changed at Ellis Island. The manifests were made
> in the country that they departed from. They probably made the change
> themselves to make the name easier to pronounce and spell. They may have
> done it legally, [through the courts] but more likely they just started to
> use the new spelling.
>
> I'm using Legacy 8 and there is an AKA (4th logo from the right) it looks
> like a group of people. You can add the name that they used in Italy or the
> one used in the US, your choice. You can cite the source (census, birth
> record, marriage record, etc) for each individual time you find the name.
> Then use the other name in database.
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
> __ __ __
> CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
> Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified
> genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is
> registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
> In a message dated 11/23/2019 2:53:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cathyv...@cox.net writes:
>
>
> My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy.
>
> When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni which
> they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island).
>
> How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-25 Thread linda dean

This is how I deal with this situation, I'm not saying its correct.  I
generally use the birth names, first and last, as the inputted name and
then I use the AKA for the variations of the names, first and last.  When I
say birth name I am referring to the earliest record of the
person...or...the name most commonly used.

Thanks.
Linda Dean

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 8:22 AM Kathy Almquist 
wrote:

> I would add here also that MANY of the spellings on ship passenger lists,
> census records, etc. were simply spelling variations!  Many immigrants
> didn't know how to spell their name, or the person taking the information
> spelled it as they heard it!   There really weren't many back then that
> knew spelling as we do today!
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 9:04 AM Ward Walker  wrote:
>
>> Christopher,
>>
>> That could be helpful. Could you elaborate? I looked for a reference to
>> the ‘Passenger Arrival Lists’ on the Ellis Island web site but did not find
>> it. Do you know what became of these ledgers? What were they used for? Did
>> they really have an impact on how the immigrant was named, once settled in
>> their destination community? Were they used during the naturalization
>> process? I see that what FamilySearch.org calls a ‘New York Passenger
>> Arrival List’ is just a ship manifest. And additional googling for
>> ‘passenger arrival lists’ also turns up only ship manifests.
>>
>>Ward
>>
>> *From:* Christopher Seward Sr.
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:33 PM
>> *To:* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated
>>
>>
>> And those manifests were used to fill out Passenger Arrival Lists (what I
>> and others refer to as ledgers).  This comes directly from the Ellis Island
>> website.
>>
>> I'm not sure why people are so passionate about stating that these errors
>> never happened, when indeed they did, even according to those who made them.
>>
>> This should be about encouraging people to be creative about their
>> research, not limiting it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Christopher (genealogist for 40+ years)
>> On 11/23/2019 2:56 PM, mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> First, the name was not changed at Ellis Island. The manifests were made
>> in the country that they departed from. They probably made the change
>> themselves to make the name easier to pronounce and spell. They may have
>> done it legally, [through the courts] but more likely they just started to
>> use the new spelling.
>>
>> I'm using Legacy 8 and there is an AKA (4th logo from the right) it looks
>> like a group of people. You can add the name that they used in Italy or the
>> one used in the US, your choice. You can cite the source (census, birth
>> record, marriage record, etc) for each individual time you find the name.
>> Then use the other name in database.
>>
>> Marie
>>
>> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
>> __ __ __
>> CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
>> Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified
>> genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is
>> registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
>> In a message dated 11/23/2019 2:53:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> cathyv...@cox.net writes:
>>
>>
>> My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy.
>>
>> When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni which
>> they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island).
>>
>> How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc?
>>
>> --
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>> 714 389-6374 Home
>> 714 227-4948 Cell
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-25 Thread Kathy Almquist

I would add here also that MANY of the spellings on ship passenger lists,
census records, etc. were simply spelling variations!  Many immigrants
didn't know how to spell their name, or the person taking the information
spelled it as they heard it!   There really weren't many back then that
knew spelling as we do today!


On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 9:04 AM Ward Walker  wrote:

> Christopher,
>
> That could be helpful. Could you elaborate? I looked for a reference to
> the ‘Passenger Arrival Lists’ on the Ellis Island web site but did not find
> it. Do you know what became of these ledgers? What were they used for? Did
> they really have an impact on how the immigrant was named, once settled in
> their destination community? Were they used during the naturalization
> process? I see that what FamilySearch.org calls a ‘New York Passenger
> Arrival List’ is just a ship manifest. And additional googling for
> ‘passenger arrival lists’ also turns up only ship manifests.
>
>Ward
>
> *From:* Christopher Seward Sr.
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:33 PM
> *To:* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated
>
>
> And those manifests were used to fill out Passenger Arrival Lists (what I
> and others refer to as ledgers).  This comes directly from the Ellis Island
> website.
>
> I'm not sure why people are so passionate about stating that these errors
> never happened, when indeed they did, even according to those who made them.
>
> This should be about encouraging people to be creative about their
> research, not limiting it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christopher (genealogist for 40+ years)
> On 11/23/2019 2:56 PM, mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>
>
>
> First, the name was not changed at Ellis Island. The manifests were made
> in the country that they departed from. They probably made the change
> themselves to make the name easier to pronounce and spell. They may have
> done it legally, [through the courts] but more likely they just started to
> use the new spelling.
>
> I'm using Legacy 8 and there is an AKA (4th logo from the right) it looks
> like a group of people. You can add the name that they used in Italy or the
> one used in the US, your choice. You can cite the source (census, birth
> record, marriage record, etc) for each individual time you find the name.
> Then use the other name in database.
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
> __ __ __
> CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
> Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified
> genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is
> registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
> In a message dated 11/23/2019 2:53:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cathyv...@cox.net writes:
>
>
> My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy.
>
> When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni which
> they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island).
>
> How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc?
>
> --
> Cathy Vallevieni
> 714 389-6374 Home
> 714 227-4948 Cell
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

2019-11-25 Thread Ward Walker

Christopher,

That could be helpful. Could you elaborate? I looked for a reference to the 
‘Passenger Arrival Lists’ on the Ellis Island web site but did not find it. Do 
you know what became of these ledgers? What were they used for? Did they really 
have an impact on how the immigrant was named, once settled in their 
destination community? Were they used during the naturalization process? I see 
that what FamilySearch.org calls a ‘New York Passenger Arrival List’ is just a 
ship manifest. And additional googling for ‘passenger arrival lists’ also turns 
up only ship manifests.

   Ward

From: Christopher Seward Sr. 
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:33 PM
To: mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated

And those manifests were used to fill out Passenger Arrival Lists (what I and 
others refer to as ledgers).  This comes directly from the Ellis Island website.

I'm not sure why people are so passionate about stating that these errors never 
happened, when indeed they did, even according to those who made them.

This should be about encouraging people to be creative about their research, 
not limiting it.

Thanks,

Christopher (genealogist for 40+ years)


On 11/23/2019 2:56 PM, mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup wrote:





  First, the name was not changed at Ellis Island. The manifests were made in 
the country that they departed from. They probably made the change themselves 
to make the name easier to pronounce and spell. They may have done it legally, 
[through the courts] but more likely they just started to use the new spelling.

  I'm using Legacy 8 and there is an AKA (4th logo from the right) it looks 
like a group of people. You can add the name that they used in Italy or the one 
used in the US, your choice. You can cite the source (census, birth record, 
marriage record, etc) for each individual time you find the name. Then use the 
other name in database.

  Marie

  Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
  __ __ __
  CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for Certification 
of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified genealogists after 
periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US 
Patent & Trademark Office.
  In a message dated 11/23/2019 2:53:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
cathyv...@cox.net writes: 

My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy.

When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni which 
they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island).

How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc?

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714 389-6374 Home
714 227-4948 Cell

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