Re: [LegacyUG] 1921 England Census

[Charles Hunt]

If you click on Extra (Address) you get five additional pages, not two.
These are: Cover, Address, Map x 2 and Plans of Division.

Charles

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 07:29, Cathy Bertenthal via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> I have  researched my grand-father who is in the 1921 census.  I did pay
> for the individual record and received 2 pages and found the information
> helpful.  I didn't find any significant difference in this from from the
> 1911 census.  But the address is on a separate page.  The address I found
> only gave the street name and house number, so there was a bit of detective
> work to find the location.  Fortunately I had enough other information that
> it was easy to find.
> Toni Redish
>
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 09:24:36 p.m. EDT, Cathy Pinner <
> genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jenny,
> There is an English/Wales 1921 Census SourceWriter template. If you
> haven't found it, you are behind in updating Legacy 9.  I'm not sure
> whether something different will be required when Scotland gets around
> to releasing it.
>
> I haven't yet tackled how to source the 1921 Census as I've been waiting
> for it to come on subscription. Now it has but I'm waiting until my sub
> to FMP is due late December to upgrade for otherwise I would be kind of
> paying twice. It's interesting but not vital to my research. I have
> found a few people in the free search and confirmed a couple of
> households via searching.
>
> I understood from a very early webinar on the 1921 census that piece and
> schedule number weren't enough as the schedule number can be repeated
> for a particular piece. How easy it is to see the full TNA reference, I
> don't know as I haven't paid to look at any transcripts or images.
>
> Cathy
>
> > Roberta Schwalm 
> > Sunday, 6 November 2022 05:14
> > I haven't found the UK 1921 Census easy to navigate either! The was
> > never a problem with the previous UK censuses but this one presents a
> > real conundrum.
> >
> > I would also like to find out how others are handling it.
> >
> > Thanks everyone
> >
> > Roberta Schwalm
> > Gatineau, QC  Canada
> >
> >
> >
> > Jenny M Benson 
> > Sunday, 6 November 2022 05:04
>
> > How are other LUGgers handling the 1921 Census, for which there isn't
> > - yet - a SourceWriter template?
> >
> > Firstly, there seems to be some confusion about precisely what
> > comprises a "correct" reference.  Some people seem to think that
> > something along the lines of RG15-n-xxx will suffice (where n
> > is the Piece number and xxx the Schedule number, whereas others are
> > saying that this does not always relate to ONE individual record and
> > that to ensure that it does so it is necessary to include the tri-part
> > District Reference.
> >
> > Secondly, unlike with earlier Censuses, including the 1911, the
> > address of the household is not shown on the "main image", nor any
> > reference information.  The address and Schedule number are shown in
> > two separate images.  To provide a fully authentic Source citation,
> > need one include all 3 images?
> >
> > I have only accessed a couple of 1921 records so far and the best
> > method of recording them seems to be to use the template for the 1911
> > Census, typing a space in the first field (otherwise RG78 is
> > automatically included in the citation) and leaving the 2nd field
> > blank, but filling all the other fields as indicated.  It may be
> > "overkill" to include all this, but it makes for consistency with the
> > 1911 Census.  So far, I have only included the main image with each
> > citation.
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] 1921 England Census

[Cathy Bertenthal via LegacyUserGroup]

 I have  researched my grand-father who is in the 1921 census.  I did pay for 
the individual record and received 2 pages and found the information helpful.  
I didn't find any significant difference in this from from the 1911 census.  
But the address is on a separate page.  The address I found only gave the 
street name and house number, so there was a bit of detective work to find the 
location.  Fortunately I had enough other information that it was easy to find. 
Toni Redish
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 09:24:36 p.m. EDT, Cathy Pinner 
 wrote:  
 
 Jenny,
There is an English/Wales 1921 Census SourceWriter template. If you 
haven't found it, you are behind in updating Legacy 9.  I'm not sure 
whether something different will be required when Scotland gets around 
to releasing it.

I haven't yet tackled how to source the 1921 Census as I've been waiting 
for it to come on subscription. Now it has but I'm waiting until my sub 
to FMP is due late December to upgrade for otherwise I would be kind of 
paying twice. It's interesting but not vital to my research. I have 
found a few people in the free search and confirmed a couple of 
households via searching.

I understood from a very early webinar on the 1921 census that piece and 
schedule number weren't enough as the schedule number can be repeated 
for a particular piece. How easy it is to see the full TNA reference, I 
don't know as I haven't paid to look at any transcripts or images.

Cathy

> Roberta Schwalm 
> Sunday, 6 November 2022 05:14
> I haven't found the UK 1921 Census easy to navigate either! The was 
> never a problem with the previous UK censuses but this one presents a 
> real conundrum.
>
> I would also like to find out how others are handling it.
>
> Thanks everyone
>
> Roberta Schwalm
> Gatineau, QC  Canada
>
>
>
> Jenny M Benson 
> Sunday, 6 November 2022 05:04
> How are other LUGgers handling the 1921 Census, for which there isn't 
> - yet - a SourceWriter template?
>
> Firstly, there seems to be some confusion about precisely what 
> comprises a "correct" reference.  Some people seem to think that 
> something along the lines of RG15-n-xxx will suffice (where n 
> is the Piece number and xxx the Schedule number, whereas others are 
> saying that this does not always relate to ONE individual record and 
> that to ensure that it does so it is necessary to include the tri-part 
> District Reference.
>
> Secondly, unlike with earlier Censuses, including the 1911, the 
> address of the household is not shown on the "main image", nor any 
> reference information.  The address and Schedule number are shown in 
> two separate images.  To provide a fully authentic Source citation, 
> need one include all 3 images?
>
> I have only accessed a couple of 1921 records so far and the best 
> method of recording them seems to be to use the template for the 1911 
> Census, typing a space in the first field (otherwise RG78 is 
> automatically included in the citation) and leaving the 2nd field 
> blank, but filling all the other fields as indicated.  It may be 
> "overkill" to include all this, but it makes for consistency with the 
> 1911 Census.  So far, I have only included the main image with each 
> citation.
>
>


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