Re: [LegacyUG] Linking people to events
While not exactly what you are describing, TMG has the following features. (A TMG tag is the equivalent of Legacy's Event/Fact.) Legacy also has timelines. "A history tag differs from a regular event tag in that there are no principals. This Tag Type is designed for events of a global, rather than personal, nature. A person is a Witness on a History tag, and the tag is displayed on the Person View of the individual who witnessed the historical event. [...] History tags help you to see where the person fits into an historical context." TMG Help system, "Data Entry: History" "A timeline is a separate database of historical events. The Timeline feature can be turned on to provide an aid in interpreting the events of a person's life against a historical background." TMG Help system, "Timeline Manager" Barbara On 12/31/2015 11:09 PM, Steve Hayes wrote: > On 31 Dec 2015 at 17:35, Sue wrote: > >> I just pulled up my TMG and you are correct, you need a person to add an >> event. But what use is an event without the participants? Just wondering... > Consider, for example, an event linke an eclipse of the moon. How do you > decide which person to attach it to, as if it is more significant to that > person than to any other? > > Or even an event like the opening of a new school (if you ware writing the > history of the school). Do you attach the event to the principle donors > (which one), the first principal, or who? > > An event-based program will attach persons to events, not events to persons. > > And I repeat, I'm not asking or expecting Legacy to do this, just hinting > that Millennia might write such a program, as a complement to Legacy. > > -- Barbara Levergood leverg...@att.net (=^·^=)~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File Id's
Hi Steve, What are the advantages of using RDF as compared with using Legacy for this purpose? Barbara On 12/19/2015 11:47 AM, Steve Hayes wrote: > On 18 Dec 2015 at 20:32, Walter DeWaele wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> Could you give us an example of one of your indexed documents? Thanks. > Here's a sample from the RDF (Research Data Filer) documents file: > > 5 DOC 5 >Interview with Eva Murray on 31 Jul 1975 >Interviewed by Stephen and Valerie Hayes > > 6 DOC 6 >Deceased estate MSCE 2160/1949 Natal Archives >Notes on file > > 7 DOC 7 >Deceased estate Richard Herbert Cottam >Notes on file > > 8 DOC 8 >Family Bible of Fred Crighton >In possession of Marion Crighton of Alberton >notes made in 1986 > > 5 DOC 5 >Interview with Eva Murray on 31 Jul 1975 >Interviewed by Stephen and Valerie Hayes > > 6 DOC 6 >Deceased estate MSCE 2160/1949 Natal Archives >Notes on file > > 7 DOC 7 >Deceased estate Richard Herbert Cottam >Notes on file > > 8 DOC 8 >Family Bible of Fred Crighton >In possession of Marion Crighton of Alberton >notes made in 1986 > > The "DOC 8" is what I put in the File ID field in Legacy. > > Here is a search for "fred crighton" using the people index of RDF: > > 1 Beningfield, Wilfred ReubenM1294 >Death 31 Mar 1942RSA, Natal, Zululand, Empangeni >F- Beningfield, Reuben M- Crighton, Martha1287 /1286 / >DOC 00695 () > > 2 Crighton, Alfred M17071 >Census 1891 ENG, London >M- Crighton, Elizabeth GF- Betjeman, George C.01583 /17072 / >grandson aged 2 months born Middlesex DOC 02291 () > > > 3 Crighton, Arthur Edwin M1563 >Marriage 3 Oct 1936 >W- Douglas, Marion Helene 1564 / / >Fred Crighton's family BibleDOC 8 () > > 4 Crighton, Arthur Edwin M1563 >Birth 14 Jul 1905RSA, TVL, Johannesburg >/ / >Fred Crighton's family BibleDOC 8 () > > Note that it has picked up the "fred" in "Wilfred" > > But it also has the DOC number which I have put in the File ID field in > Legacy. > > The number in the top right-hand corner is the RIN of that person, which also > appears in Legacy (which is why I never reorganise RINs in Legacy, and never > was even tempted to use FTM). > > , > > -- Barbara Levergood leverg...@att.net (=^·^=)~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] And a US Census Area be considered a county?
I am a glutton for the Census, so I cannot resist sharing the following gem from the U.S. Census Bureau. I find that it answers many of my questions about U.S. Census geography and thus about how I might enter a location. Geographic Areas Reference Manual, https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/garm.html. For instance, reinforcing what Brian in CA found out, Chapter 4 tells us: "For most States, counties are the primary administrative divisions. There are exceptions, however; Louisiana has parishes, while Alaska has boroughs for the organized portion of its territory. Because a large part of Alaska is not in any organized borough, the State and the Census Bureau cooperatively have subdivided the unorganized portion of Alaska into census areas for the purposes of presenting statistical data." Barbara From: Brian L. LightfootTo: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 3:07 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] And a US Census Area be considered a county? I'm a glutton for punishment and this topic of a county name for Gustavus was bothering me. So, I picked up the phone and called Gustavus City Hall. The wonderful clerk there reminded me that Alaska does not have counties but rather "boroughs" similar to Louisiana's "parishes". However, Alaska is still unique in that not all of Alaska is organized into boroughs. Currently there are 19 organized boroughs and one legal entity called the "Unorganized borough". This Unorganized Borough is administered by the state and still takes up the vast majority of the land in Alaska. Gustavus resides in the Unorganized Borough. Technically, you could enter "Unorganized borough" for the county name but that would probably just confuse people other than Alaskans. The city clerk of Gustavus says she normally leaves that blank on any paperwork that asks for a county/borough name but when the form requires something to be entered, she uses the name of the closest borough just to keep the paperwork happy. This concludes today's lesson in Geography. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Chris Summers [mailto:genealog...@summerscs.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:32 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] And a US Census Area be considered a county? When I add a USA based location for birth, death or marriage events I usually list the city, county, state and USA in the location field. However my son married his wife in a small town in Alaska near Glacier Bay National Park that does not belong to any county. The town, Gustavus is a part of what is known as the "Hoonah-Angoon Census Area". Of course when I enter that Legacy tells me no such county in Alaska exists. Would it still be appropriate to enter that in the County field or should it just be left blank? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] magazine vs journal vs periodical vs newsletter
The Legacy help system states that Nearly all of the source templates are derived from Elizabeth Shown Mills' book, Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace. Mills characterizes journals, magazines, newspapers, and newsletters on pg. 791 of the 2nd edition. Barbara On 8/24/2015 10:32 AM, Kirstin wrote: What is the difference between a magazine, journal, periodical, or newsletter? Does Legacy use the terminology the same way as explained on the University of Michigan web site? http://libanswers.umflint.edu/a.php?qid=213617 -- Barbara Levergood leverg...@att.net (=^·^=)~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Chronology View fix
One of the items said to be fixed on the Revision History page* for v. 8.0.0.467 is Chronology View - Added the option of Edit Individual on the Options button. However, I do not see the option to edit on the Options button in Chronology View. I am using 8.0.0.467 Deluxe. What am I missing? Thanks! Barbara * http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory8.asp -- Barbara Levergood leverg...@att.net (=^·^=)~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are trying to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is very hard sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new software, because it is often hard to think outside of the TMG box, and because we have such long lists of workarounds we are trying to find. So, any feasible ideas are welcome! They may not work for all, but they may work for some. For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with putting the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix. The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix that I have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs (displayed as {11}). Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution is that those fields are searchable. So, I could search for all persons coded (11) or for all persons coded at all ((). This is not a replacement for more tags (which can be set via Advanced Tagging), but it might be a feasible workaround for some. Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a 9-bit binary number. However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged: Tags - 1234 Line 1 - uuuT Line 2 - uuTu Line 3 - uuTT Line 4 - uTuu Line 5 - uTuT Line 6 - uTTu Line 7 - uTTT Line 8 - Tuuu Line 9 - TuuT Line 10 - TuTu This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in binary very quickly. Barbara L. On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote: I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't. After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the other. In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix, both of which will display in the Name List as well as the family-view and pedigree view. Pick one of 'em, and assign your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc. The possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of the population can't distinguish anyway. If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can just ignore me. Lots of people *DO*. Cheryl Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31. Dawn Beeks wrote: Barbara, Thanks for your input. Because I have 10 different lines of “beeksâ€, when they pop up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and say, oh it’s this line. And people have said, create 10 projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily to the supposedly correct line/project. So the color is the big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6 Johns and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or disappear? I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work. I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before I make that final decision__ Dawn Beeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net] *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Dawn, I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls these tagging) and the lack of accent colors bothered me. While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the accent colors. The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want more, more, more. IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's functions and options. Barbara -- Barbara Levergood leverg...@att.net (=^·^=)~ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] navigating to associates
I am a TMG user with a newbie question. I am trying to figure out how to navigate among individuals in a database in Legacy 8. Say I have an individual Census event that is shared with the members of the household (wife, children, unrelated housekeeper). Can I directly navigate from the owner of that Census event to the housekeeper or from the housekeeper back to the male head of household? Or is the quickest way to open up the Census event and the list of individuals it is shared with, commit the name of the housekeeper to memory, close all the windows, and then look for the housekeeper's name in the index? Thanks for any tips! -- Barbara Levergood Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] navigating to associates
Hi Brett, the ability to simply pop up a window from an individuals event list, with the list of shared individuals so that you can select any on the list to go to. Exactly what I had in mind! Barbara On 9/21/2014 5:41 PM, Brett McL Robinson wrote: Hi Barbara You could try using bookmarks, but I don't think that is quite what you are wanting. It looks like a feature yet to be included in Legacy - a bit like adding a hyper-link within the database from any text. Another existing feature may be the shared event, but what appears to be missing is the bit you are wanting - the ability to simply pop up a window from an individuals event list, with the list of shared individuals so that you can select any on the list to go to. Cheers, Brett Hamilton, New Zealand On 22/09/2014 5:41 a.m., Barbara Levergood wrote: I am a TMG user with a newbie question. I am trying to figure out how to navigate among individuals in a database in Legacy 8. Say I have an individual Census event that is shared with the members of the household (wife, children, unrelated housekeeper). Can I directly navigate from the owner of that Census event to the housekeeper or from the housekeeper back to the male head of household? Or is the quickest way to open up the Census event and the list of individuals it is shared with, commit the name of the housekeeper to memory, close all the windows, and then look for the housekeeper's name in the index? Thanks for any tips! -- Barbara Levergood leverg...@att.net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp