Re: [LegacyUG] Independent Cities

[Shirley Crampton]

Was Baltimore an independent city in 1832?
Shirley

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 6:53 PM Christopher Seward Sr. 
wrote:

> Coming from Baltimore, Maryland, I have this in a LOT of my entries.  I ha
> found that using this format suites my needs in properly identifying that
> it is an independent city, but also making it easy to differentiate it from
> being an actual place name:
>
> *Baltimore, (Independent City), Maryland, USA*
>
> This puts the term "Independent City" in place of the county, but the
> parentheses indicate that it is not the actual name of the county.  This
> also lets people know that you didn't leave the county field blank.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Christopher
> On 2/18/2020 11:57 AM, Margaret Gagliardi wrote:
>
> The state of Virginia has a good number of 'Independent Cities'.  Would
> someone please tell me how to properly record them?
> Thanks
> Margaret
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cenotaph

[Shirley Crampton]

I have a relative who was Lost in Action over the North Atlantic.  I used
"Memorial" for the memorial to him on the RAF Runnymede Memorial and I used
"Memorial Tombstone" for the memorial on his parents' tombstone.  I
recorded both of these as events.  I recorded his burial as North Atlantic
off of Norway.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:42 PM Scott Hall  wrote:

> Quick question -- how best to handle recording a cenotaph?  Specifically,
> the ancestor I'm recording was taken captive in a Native American raid,
> marched to Canada, and died along the way.  Where she was buried (if at
> all) is lost to history.  But, she is memorialized on a family gravestone
> at the grave site of her husband in a local cemetery.
>
> How best to record this in Legacy?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

[Shirley Crampton]

 août 2019 09:26
> *À :* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup 
> 
> *Cc :* James G. Hermsen  
> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
>
>
>
> I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry
> and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different
> then than it is today.  That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to
> find the place on a map is able to do so.  Prussia is very hard to find, if
> you did not know where to look. Same thing with names of cities whose name
> has changed.  Stalingrad, Linengrad don't make sense for someone born after
> the Cold War.   Peking vs. Bejing.  Same thing.
>
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> Hoosierly yours,
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> James G. Hermsen
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> On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎43‎:‎54‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, mvmcgrs---
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>
> I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in the
> document.  The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a county
> in 1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by 1870. The
> house did not move but the boundaries did.
>
>
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
> __ __ __
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> genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is
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>
> In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> wrlinh...@gmail.com writes:
>
>
>
> I do agree.
>
>
>
> My standard is:   [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village,
> city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country
>
> and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for
> all locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] .  The
> entry might between comma's might be null if I don't have the information.
> For example born in USA might be ", , , USA".  I know I have some research
> to do but I only record what I have from that source.
>
>
>
> For folder hierarchy and some naming situations I reverse the order but
> always hold to 4 elements for location.  I don't believe I have ever had an
> exception.  I am sure I will learn about one here.  So far this works for
> me.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm 
> wrote:
>
> I do the same thing, Shirley.  Most of my ancestors are from Scotland,
> Ireland, England, Germany and a spattering of French.  The only difference
> is I use "province" instead of State.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton 
> wrote:
>
> I use Village, County, State, Country.  Hopefully there is no more than 1
> village of the same name in the County.  If the place is rural then I put
> the name of the township in the first position.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach 
> wrote:
>
> Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that
> are made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it?
>
> I have thought of the following:
>
> Village, township, county, state, United States
>
> or
>
> township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as  all
> villages within the township would be listed together)
>
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>
> Thank you, Connie.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

[Shirley Crampton]

I use Village, County, State, Country.  Hopefully there is no more than 1
village of the same name in the County.  If the place is rural then I put
the name of the township in the first position.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach 
wrote:

> Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that
> are made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it?
>
> I have thought of the following:
>
> Village, township, county, state, United States
>
> or
>
> township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as  all
> villages within the township would be listed together)
>
>
>
> Thank you, Connie.
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Re: [LegacyUG] John Goodwin Passed away

[Shirley Crampton]

I'm sorry for your loss.  At the bottom of one of the emails you should be
able to find a note re "unsubscribe".  When you click on that you will be
able to unsubscribe him from the group.  If you click on the Facebook link
on the bottom of the email you can see all of his Facebook groups and then
you can unsubscribe him from all of them by clicking on the name of the
group on the left side.  At the top of the postings you will see "Join".
Click on that and you will see the option to "Leave group". Click on that
and his name will be removed from that group.  You will have to do this for
each group.

Shirley Crampton

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> Hi, I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news. John Goodwin passed away on
> Jan.6th. I am his wife, Eizabeth Goodwin. He has been getting multiple
> emails daily from your group. Would you please unsubcribe him from your
> list. I have been trying to contact the senders individually, but I am
> overwhelmed with the numbers. Please let me know when you have finished.
> They are quickly clogging up my email boxes. Sorry, I do not have his
> pass words or any login info.Thanks, Liz
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Re: [LegacyUG] High School Yearbook - Source Template

[Shirley Crampton]

I would use the Book source template.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 2:22 PM Richard Felts  wrote:

> Chris and Shirley:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions but what I really want to know is how you
> create sources for any information found in the yearbook that you include
> in your tree.  For example, if the yearbook shows your ancestor
> participated in the Debate Club from 1935 to 1937, and if you choose to
> include this as an Event for your ancestor, what source format do you
> choose from those available with Legacy?
>
> Dick Felts
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2018 1:20 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] High School Yearbook - Source Template
>
> Hi
>
> I would only use the Snipping Tool if there was no other way to save the
> image. Remember that it is limited to the resolution of your display, which
> might be lower than the resolution of the original image.
>
> Per se, if the images are not available for a direct download then it is
> possible that they are legally protected and should not be saved locally.
> Probably not an issue if just used by you, but definitely an issue if they
> are to be published.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
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> -- Original Message --
> From: "Shirley J. Miller" 
> To: "Legacy User Group" 
> Sent: 18/12/2018 18:10:12
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] High School Yearbook - Source Template
>
> Hi Richard,  I "snip and save" photos using the snipping tool on my
> computer, and save them in my documents file.  Then I can attach them to
> the person in Legacy.  In that way, I add all kinds of photos to my
> Ancestor Chart and to my Ancestor book.  Its a bit complicated but it
> works.  There might be easier ways that I am not aware of...but that is
> what I do.
> Shirley J. Miller
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:22 AM Richard Felts  wrote:
>
> I'm preparing to save info from an old high-school yearbook that's now
> available online as scanned images of the original pages.  My problem is
> finding a source format that's appropriate.  None of the formats in Source
> Writer seems to  be a really good match so I'm wondering what other Legacy
> users have done.  Any suggestions appreciated.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photo Program Text Box

[Shirley Crampton]

I use Photoshop Elements (not free) and it works in the same way.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Jenny M Benson 
wrote:

> On 27-Jul-18 12:20 PM, Alexander Payne wrote:
>
>> Is there a photo program that allows one to add a text box below (not on
>> the picture) a jpg picture I want to list people in a picture, or add a
>> citation, or add a headstone transcription etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> I use IrfanView which is free and easy to use and very efficient.
>
> To do what you want I increase the canvas size by adding to the bottom
> margin, then add my text there.
>
> If you wish/need to, e-mail me when you have the program and I will send
> you detailed instructions.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Attach certificates to a group?

[Shirley Crampton]

I think if you use the "share event" feature and add the certificate to the
original person that it will add it to everyone that you have defined as
sharing the event.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Gloria DeSousa  wrote:

> I attach the certificate to each individual mentioned in the certificate.
> That can be as many as 14 people if grandparents are mentioned such as in
> marriage certificates. Is there a shortcut in which I can attach the
> certificate to all 14 people with one click? If yes, I would then add the
> different captions.
>
> I think the answer is no but after 6000 people in my tree, and tens of
> thousands of certificates more or less, I thought I would ask.
>
> Thanks,
> Gloria
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Re: [LegacyUG] citing an online obituary

[Shirley Crampton]

Barton
With this citation it is important to include Michigan since there is a
Grand Rapids in either Illinois or Indiana.
Shirley

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM, BARTON LEWIS 
wrote:

> I agree.  The only 2 options Legacy includes for online obituaries that
> are "issued by unrelated content provider" have the descriptor "online
> images" in them.  I'm not sure if there is any material effect on the
> citation by using the template for an obituary that has been transcribed.
> The output I provided appears to be clear and sufficient, so I guess that's
> what counts.  Still, it might be nice if the template were styled
> "Newspapers>Online images or transcriptions (issued by unrelated content
> provider" (my change in bold).
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:18 AM, bobstree2 wrote:
>
> I will not get involved in the "correct way" of sourcing, that is a
> personal choice.   But i do see a major distinction between an image and a
> transcription.
>
> An image is a picture of* an actual item* as it exists to the
> photographer/scanner.
>
>
> But a transcription is *someone's interpretation of the actual item.*  A
> transcription is subject to clerical errors, missing information
> accidentally or intentional, and or personal conclusions and/or editing.
>
> An image is closer to a Primary Source depending on many factors.
> A transcription is definitely Secondary Source at best.
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: BARTON LEWIS 
> Date: 7/14/17 10:28 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] citing an online obituary
>
> Hi Cathy,
>
> Thank you for your reply.  However, I did take a look at the existing
> templates (I thought my post reflected that).  I also may have provided
> "TMI" (I tend to do this), was not sufficiently succinct and/or asked
> obvious questions.  For example, in the template I ended up selecting,
> "Newspapers>Online images (issued by unrelated content provider)," I asked
> if "issued" means "published on this website," which I assume it does.  I
> also nitpicked about the use of "online image;" I assume that is equivalent
> to a transcription although it seems somewhat imprecise.  The distinction
> is perhaps not important.
>
> The output for my obituary is:
>
> "Andrew Kulesa," Grand Rapids Press, 23 Aug 2014; database, MLive Media
> Group (http://obits.mlive.com/obituaries/grandrapids/
> obituary.aspx?pid=172223191 : accessed 14 Jul 2017), Obituaries.
>
> I think this is good.  The only gripe I have is that, although the
> template provides a field for "State," this does not appear in the output.
> I think the way around this is to insert the state's abbreviation in
> parentheses between "Rapids" and "Press."
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 02:13 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>
> Barton,
> There may not be any - take a look.
> Cathy
>
> Barton Lewis wrote:
>
>
> So here’s a source citation problem that I would be interested in
> hearing feedback about: I found an obituary for someone that provides
> his mother’s maiden name, an important link to a DNA match that I
> haven’t been able to obtain otherwise. The obituary is on a website
> for a company that calls itself “[X] Media Group” (the “X” is
> replacing its actual name). The obit came up when Googling the man’s
> mother’s married name, and appears on a page that has the following
> inscription at top: “Obituaries & Guestbooks Provided by Funeral
> Directors & Families from the Grand Rapids Press.” X Media Group, on
> its About Us page states it is “an audience-first venture encompassing
> content, sales, and ma rketing professionals that care deeply about
> digital marketing.” Which Master Source template should I use? The
> obituary is not issued by the publisher, if “issued” is the same as
> published on the website in question, correct? The templates which
> include “issued by unrelated content provider” would seem to be the
> correct ones, but they all include the categorization “online image.”
> Is there a difference between an “online image” and a transcription of
> the obituary? Is the former an actual digital image of the obituary as
> it appeared in the newspaper? If so, is it appropriate to use this
> template since the obituary is a transcription?
>
> Finally, why is there a separate category for some of the templates
> that includes “periodicals” in front of the rest of the descriptors,
> e.g. “Newspapers>online archives>issued by the publisher” vs.
> “Periodicals>Newspapers>online archives& gt;issued by the publisher”;
> what’s the difference between the two?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barton
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hashtags

[Shirley Crampton]

Hashtag is explained on pg 51 of the instruction book.  It is only
available in the deluxe version of the software.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Rune Mattsson 
wrote:

> In my opinion” Hashtags” are something I’ve used for years in Legacy
> although I called it “dot tags”
>
> I’ve never liked the tagging, too easy to delete and altered by mistake so
> I created hidden events/facts starting with a “.”. I could then add it
> (with notation, date and place)  to a person.
>
> I think “Hash tagging” should be useful  if  it coould be used  with other
> master data, locations, events  etc.
>
>
> 2017-07-13 18:23 GMT+02:00 Laura Ellene :
>
>> Can anyone explain to me how to set and use hashtags?  I can’t find a
>> thing giving instructions on how and where to set them in my help screen or
>> instruction book.
>>
>>
>>
>> Laura Tynes
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the day

[Shirley Crampton]

Thanks Michele.  I think that this illustrates why most of us use family
tree information as clues only.

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Howland Davis via LegacyUserGroup <
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> Michelle:
>
>  Thanks for the tip.  I found a duplicate User ID with one a man and
> the other a woman.
>
> Howland Davis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michele/Support 
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Sent: Sun, May 14, 2017 6:34 pm
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Tip of the day
>
> TIP OF THE DAY (Legacy Staff) - "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch
> ID number"
> (Legacy 8 and 9)
>
> I ran this search for the first time today. I am not sure why I never
> tried it before. To get to it go to Tools > Merge Duplicates > Find
> Duplicates and then select the "Special Duplicates Searches" tab. The
> second option is the "Find duplicates using only FamilySearch ID number."
>
> I ran the search and found I have 31 pairs of people sharing the same
> FSID. I can see how this could have happened when you consider the ability
> to auto match and FSIDs being merged. I printed a list of the 31 pairs and
> went through them. I left the FSID on the correct person and deleted the
> FSID on the wrong person.
>
> Some of the dups I could understand how a mistake could have been made but
> some of them were really off. I need to go back and look at the change logs
> to see who did the merge and then undo them.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Hints (new in v9)

[Shirley Crampton]

Thank you Brian.  That eases my mind.

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> Not at all. Your tree is still restricted to your computer UNLESS you have
> made the choice to upload your tree to MyHeritage. MyHeritage allows users
> to have their own trees (Much like Ancestry.com) but there is no automatic
> upload of your tree to MyHeritage to support the hints.
>
> Hints pass information about one person at a time to let MyHeritage search
> their databases for any possible matches. It is the same as the existing
> manual searches you can perform using Internet > Search Internet which also
> passes information on a person. The Hints process performs those searches
> in the background so you do not have to manually execute each search.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 22-Apr-17 11:07 AM, Shirley Crampton wrote:
>
>> Does this mean that our trees in Legacy are no longer private?
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:
>>
>> You have to add all the information you find via the Hints manually, hint
>>> lets you find data but does not automatically update the information in
>>> your file. That message by MyHeritage only means that they have recorded
>>> the match on their web site and, if you have a MyHeritage tree on their
>>> site that includes the person, the match will now show in their record on
>>> that tree.
>>>
>>> Brian Kelly
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Dale Carmack wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm a little confused on the incorporation of hints.  I selected a hint
>>>> from
>>>> MyHeritage, (found in New York State Deaths, 1957 - 1964).  This hint
>>>> indicated it was an added residence to my data.  I clicked confirm and
>>>> the
>>>> following message appeared in the MyHeritage page:
>>>>
>>>> "This record was confirmed as a match and is available on James Edward
>>>> Cody's Legacy Family Tree profile. Be sure to review the record, extract
>>>> useful information from it (e.g. birth date) and add it manually to the
>>>> Legacy Family Tree profile."
>>>>
>>>> If the message states "confirmed as a match and is available on James
>>>> Edward
>>>> Cody's Legacy Family Tree profile" where can I see the "available on
>>>> James
>>>> Edward Cody's Legacy Family Tree profile"?  When I click on the
>>>> individual's
>>>> information screen I cannot find anywhere that an update in Legacy was
>>>> made
>>>> for the residency of this person.
>>>>
>>>> The next part of the message is confusing as it then states to "review
>>>> the
>>>> record extract useful information from it (e.g. birth date) and add it
>>>> manually to the Legacy Family Tree profile."  Is this just stating that
>>>> I
>>>> should look at the record and "if" I find other new information then I
>>>> should add it manually?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Hints (new in v9)

[Shirley Crampton]

Does this mean that our trees in Legacy are no longer private?

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> You have to add all the information you find via the Hints manually, hint
> lets you find data but does not automatically update the information in
> your file. That message by MyHeritage only means that they have recorded
> the match on their web site and, if you have a MyHeritage tree on their
> site that includes the person, the match will now show in their record on
> that tree.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
>
> On 22-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Dale Carmack wrote:
>
>> I'm a little confused on the incorporation of hints.  I selected a hint
>> from
>> MyHeritage, (found in New York State Deaths, 1957 - 1964).  This hint
>> indicated it was an added residence to my data.  I clicked confirm and the
>> following message appeared in the MyHeritage page:
>>
>> "This record was confirmed as a match and is available on James Edward
>> Cody's Legacy Family Tree profile. Be sure to review the record, extract
>> useful information from it (e.g. birth date) and add it manually to the
>> Legacy Family Tree profile."
>>
>> If the message states "confirmed as a match and is available on James
>> Edward
>> Cody's Legacy Family Tree profile" where can I see the "available on James
>> Edward Cody's Legacy Family Tree profile"?  When I click on the
>> individual's
>> information screen I cannot find anywhere that an update in Legacy was
>> made
>> for the residency of this person.
>>
>> The next part of the message is confusing as it then states to "review the
>> record extract useful information from it (e.g. birth date) and add it
>> manually to the Legacy Family Tree profile."  Is this just stating that I
>> should look at the record and "if" I find other new information then I
>> should add it manually?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> dale
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Shirley Crampton]

Go to the Options button, click on customize, go to 8.13 and when you get
there, there is a button for Options or something like that.  Click on it,
scroll down to the bottom and there is a button to click to delete the
hints icon when you have reviewed all of them.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Ian Beach  wrote:

> Hi
>
> As this discussion seems to have off the original topic that I posted, I
> reiterate points 2 and 3 (particularly point 3)
>
> 2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all
> my
> entries are UK based.
>
> 3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon
> quantity
> doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
> reappeared.
>
> Ian Beach
> College Grove, Western Australia
>
> On 21/04/17 10:25 PM, Philip Solida wrote:
> > This is indeed good news Brian... I see it as a full answer to any
> remaining
> > need for ancestry other than the images being shared to family search by
> tree
> > owners as they have to ancestry in the past... word of mouth folks... we
> need
> > to get out there and talk this up at local meetings of genealogical
> societies
> > ect. The program far exceeds Ancestry in what it can do, so why hold on
> to it
> > after the recent problems... They will have to come out with something
> truely
> > compete and new features for me to consider upgrading Family tree 2014...
> >
> > On Apr 21, 2017 10:12 AM, "Brian Kelly"  > > wrote:
> >
> > I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints
> which
> > include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if you
> > choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is
> automatically
> > added to your file along with the source but except for some
> FamilySearch
> > images which are not downloadable due to restrictions placed on the
> images
> > by the provider I was able to download and attach source images
> obtained
> > via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and FamilySearch.
> >
> > Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England
> and
> > Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and
> marriage
> > registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with
> > baptism, marriage and death details.
> >
> > Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes
> which
> > have no image.
> >
> > Brian Kelly
> >
> > On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
> >
> > The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a
> competitive
> > hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one
> of ancestry
> > '72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple
> hinting
> > sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been
> attached
> > images
> > of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy.
> That
> > ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to
> search or
> > expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to
> document
> > beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source
> document... so true
> > competition will need to include those features at some point in
> the
> > national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it
> is
> > far and
> > away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.
> The
> > ability
> > to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary
> as opposed
> > to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's
> undocumented
> > guess on
> > their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the
> information in
> > a hint.
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question

[Shirley Crampton]

When I add a document that proves the parent-child relationship I add that
to the child's screen and use the document as the source.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:24 PM, BARTON LEWIS 
wrote:

> Good to know, thanks.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:08 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:
>
> If you open a person's assigned sources screen you will see that you can
>> assign a source to the Father - Child and Mother Child relationships.
>>
>> I personally do not do that but anyone who intends to apply to one of the
>> associations like Daughters or Sons of the American Revolution which
>> require proof of your descent from a revolutionary war participant needs to
>> assign sources to those fields because those societies are very interested
>> in what documents were used to confirm the descent.
>>
>> Brian Kelly
>>
>> On 21-Apr-17 1:12 PM, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
>>
>>> Diane,
>>> I see your point now - add it to all 3 name fields (the child and both
>>> parents).  I would absolutely do that if it were the only or one of the
>>> only sources for the relationship, and I understand the reason for doing
>>> it regardless.  Here is my dilemma:  I have transcribed the sketch which
>>> is about 4 paragraphs, and I am reluctant to add the source without the
>>> transcript, and I am also reluctant to add the source for every
>>> relationship named (the many siblings and aunts and uncles of the
>>> sketch's subject).  So I have to decide how to err - on the side of
>>> leaving out a good (but not the only) source for the relationships or
>>> having a lot of information duplicated and taking up a lot of printed
>>> space in reports, etc.
>>> Barton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:00 PM, Diane wrote:
>>>
>>> Barton;
>>> It is probably an unnecessary step   to add the source to the father
>>> relationship and mother relationship fields, but it is something I do
>>> routinely.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
>>> On Behalf Of BARTON LEWIS
>>> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:27 AM
>>> To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] sourcing question
>>>
>>> hi Diane, thanks for your reply.  By adding the book as a source in the
>>> name field, I assume that's what I would be doing (using the book as a
>>> source for those relationships).
>>> Barton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Diane wrote:
>>> Barton;
>>>
>>> You could also use the book as a source for child/parent relationships.
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
>>>  ] On Behalf Of Barton
>>> Lewis
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:45 PM
>>> To: 'Legacy User Group'
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Another problem with v9 Hints

[Shirley Crampton]

I agree with Phillip and Brian.  Even though I do not have a MyHeritage
subscription I have been amazed at the amount of detail that is included in
the hint.  I advise looking at their hints.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> Those companies also provide a service by building databases to index all
> those records for searching and operate the servers that host the service.
> None of that comes cheap and there are only two sources of revenue, host
> advertisements and get paid by the advertisers or charge the users who want
> to access the data. Free accounts, if they provide them, are probably there
> to entice a user with data in the hope they will eventually realize they
> need a paid account to get "All" the goodies.
>
> As you say we are paying for convenience by supporting those who make the
> records available to us from the comfort of our homes via the internet.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 21-Apr-17 10:50 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
>
>> Key here is unique... therefore exclusive... therefore I can charge you to
>> access records... my own little cash cow... while the records may be
>> public
>> u less you want to drive or fly all over creation there is also the ease
>> of
>> access factor... the things we pay for...
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Register for Tuesday's BCG webinar: The Genealogy in Government Documents by Rick Sayre, CG, CGL, FUGA

[Shirley Crampton]

What a wonderful syllabus!  I have never seen a 52 page syllabus for a
webinar before.  Very generous!

Shirley

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Geoff Rasmussen <
ge...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> An often under used resource, evidence of kinship abounds in publication
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources for images

[Shirley Crampton]

Pat, you have done an outstanding job.  The pictures really help to bring
the stories alive.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:

> Richard, I'm not following you.
>
> Pat
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova <
> rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Page 14. Wow! Profoundly pacifist. It begs to be published.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone explain to me why it is that Legacy doesn't have an
>>> efficient way for adding sources for images.  Recently I compiled a
>>> 100+-page paper on my paternal line, connected families, and their
>>> interactions with Native Americans.  I had realized there were a lot and
>>> compiled them by doing a search in Notes and Events for "Indians."  I was
>>> amazed at how much I had -- even more than I'd expected.
>>>
>>> I've sent it to family members and posted it on Wikitree:
>>> http://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/7/7e/Prickett_family_resources-15.pdf
>>>
>>> and it has been suggested that I publish it, but I don't know how on
>>> earth I'd ever be able to retrieve the sources for all the images.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Renaming media files

[Shirley Crampton]

Thank you, thank you Michele
I have been removing media and reentering it because I did not like my
original file names.  This will save a *lot* of work.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Mark Wilby 
wrote:

> Thanks Michele but if i use that method and then run the re linker I get
> broken media links
>
> Media File: Marriage: Source Detail: Edmund Hare [97] and Ann Howard [101]
>C:\Legacy Files\Family Names\Hare\Edmund Hare Marriage 1817.jpg
> Media File: Name: Source Detail: Ann HOWARD [101]
>C:\Legacy Files\Family Names\Hare\Edmund Hare Marriage 1817.jpg
> Marriage Media File: Edmund Hare [97] and Ann Howard [101]
>C:\Legacy Files\Family Names\Hare\Edmund Hare Marriage 1817.jpg
> Media File: Marriage Event: Source Detail: Edmund Hare [97] and Ann Howard
> [101]
>C:\Legacy Files\Family Names\Hare\Edmund Hare Marriage 1817.jpg
> Marriage Event Media File: Witness to Marriage: Edmund Hare [97] and Ann
> Howard [101]
>C:\Legacy Files\Family Names\Hare\Edmund Hare Marriage 1817.jpg
> Media File: Research Notes: Source Detail: Edmund HARE [97]
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:21 PM Michele/Support <
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
>
>> Photos attached to the Master Sources and Citation Detail screens will
>> appear in the Picture Center and you can rename them there without losing
>> your link. When you open the Picture Center, in the center top you will see
>> a BROWSE button.  All you have to do is navigate to where the picture is
>> located.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michele
>>
>> Technical Support
>>
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>>
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>>
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mark Wilby
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:12 AM
>> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
>> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Renaming media files
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Hope this question isn't too simple. I can use the picture center to
>> rename attached media file names used by events or individuals but if that
>> file is used by a source the file is lost until I re link it. Is there a
>> way to universally rename a file so source media links are renamed as well.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Events, Event Notes, Regular Notes

[Shirley Crampton]

Hi Evelyn

I also enter the sources separately for each event.  I enter the transcript
as part of the source detail, as Geoff has suggested in his webinars.  When
I go back to see what sources I have for each event I am able to access the
source detail and see the transcript that goes with that source.

Shirley

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Evelyn ..  wrote:

> Hi Martha,
>
> I have found it most helpful to use one event per source. If I have 2
> sources that support a single event (i.e. birthdate) then I have to attach
> 2 sources to the event. I have to enter 2 transcripts of the data in the
> Event Notes. When I go back to that event, there is no way for me to
> determine which source goes to which transcript.
>
> The only people who are interested in reading the details in the
> event/event notes are researchers. Researchers are also the only people who
> are interested in which sources the information is related to. If I have
> trouble keeping my own data/sources straight, there is little chance
> someone else would be able to know which source goes with which transcript.
>
> I am interested to hear what other people have found works for them.
> - Evelyn
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Martha Graham 
> wrote:
>
>> Good Morning,
>> In thinking about what has been mentioned, I realized that you are all
>> right, the notes 'hang' in limbo - not good.
>> But, if I have two types of information for a death, for example, do I
>> lump them together or create two events?
>> Sample:
>> Death Record from Vital Records
>> Death Certificate - Digital Copy [shows the usual, cause of death,
>> informants, etc.]
>>
>> I have collected a huge amount of D/C's and now that I have time, am
>> going through them and adding cause of death, etc.
>> I was using the Medical Notes section for this process, but as pointed
>> out, they do not fit in chronological order.
>>
>> There are almost always at least 3 dates on a D/C - and sometimes many
>> more :
>> Date of Death
>> Date [found]
>> Date when last seen by a medical person
>> Date when signed off by Coroner or MD
>> Date when Certificate is Filed
>>
>> So if I create an event for both the items where the death info is found,
>> then what date get's used for the info on the D/C? If I use the date of
>> death, both dates will show up together, but that is not exactly
>> chronological because an exact time is not part of the date.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Martha
>> In Los Osos, CA
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Program hang up

[Shirley Crampton]

I would suggest that you send this message to tech support.  I have been
having problems with a different issue but there may be a problem with the
Legacy program.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Carl Cox  wrote:

> I have the pop-up reminder to tell me when I have entered a new place.
> Quite often I have a memory in the mouse to put in also. When I enter a new
> place, the next mouse click is to paste the item in the mouse memory.
> However, the program makes to simultaneous responses: it reminds me that
> this is a new place, and brings up the response to the right click to copy
> or paste. Now there are two required responses, but neither one can respond
> because it is waiting for the other one. Legacy is locked up. My procedure
> is to call up task manager, and close  Legacy. Is there a better way? If
> not, can programming stop this interference? It happens often enough to
> frustrate me.
>
> Carl Cox
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to accomplish a working data base of one family?

[Shirley Crampton]

I agree.  I found a complete family that I thought was an ancestor and his
family so I did it the way Boyd suggested.  When I was able to prove that I
had the correct family it was quite easy to link this family to my known
ancestor.

Shirley

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Boyd Miller  wrote:

> Jane,
> There is no reason why you can't have her as an unlinked individual, with
> all her own data, within your main database. She will show in the name
> list, and can be linked when you find a connection but will generally not
> show in any other lists or reports.
>
> If you go to View > Trees > Refresh that you may find you already have
> some floating individuals.
>
> Boyd
>
> On 27/02/2016 7:39 a.m., Jane Sarles wrote:
>
> I have a prospect for the wife of an ancestor.  I am 95% sure that she is
> the right one,but not 100%.  I should like to have a mini-data base of just
> this couple and their ancestors and descendants to use for research
> purposes while I try to verify their relationship.
>
> I don't want to add her to my main data base, since I don't have her
> documented, but I need her in my dummy data base so I can see the broader
> picture and how she fits in.
>
> Alternatively, I could put her in the main db, but in some special way
> (color type, different font?) or some such designation.  Would that work
> better?  Then I wouldn't have to re-type all her facts in when I verify
> her.
>
> Can anyone suggest how I might do this?
>
> Jane S.
>
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