Re: [LegacyUG] AKA

2022-03-26 Thread Roberta Schwalm
I do the same thing.  I enter the first name only, then the last name
(example:  Jane Doe).  Then in the AKA box I may have Mary Jane Doe is that
is her complete name and any other names by which she is known as well as a
nickname if she is known by one.

Roberta Schwalm

On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 9:56 AM Juergen Amling  wrote:

> That’s why I always put the full name in the aka field, not only the
> different first or last name but also the one that’s the same. Like Tom
> Douglass I would also put Thomas Douglass, and Tom Douglas and Thomas
> Douglass if I want to cover all versions.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 25, 2022, at 23:07, Ian Thomas  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Trivia, but perhaps useful to others?
>
> Something I should have checked / aware of – discovered only recently:
>
> I have a person Thomas DOUGLAS. At some time in his life in the 1800s, it
> was recorded as DOUGLASS (double-S). That may have been the family-accepted
> spelling forever, I’m not sure.
>
>
>
> But I had been entering the AKA in an incomplete way – eg, for this
> person, I may have recorded an AKA as Tom (no surname in the addition), or
> as DOUGLASS (no given names entered).
>
> When displaying  Index view (I use Family and Index consistently)  I was
> surprised not to see his AKA name in full, in the Index view (Options set
> to display it).
>
>
>
> So, I saw ~DOUGLASS,   without his given name.  Or Tom (no surname at
> all). Not so useful.
>
>
>
>
>
> I.L. Thomas
>
> Western Australia 6100
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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA

2022-03-26 Thread Juergen Amling
That’s why I always put the full name in the aka field, not only the different 
first or last name but also the one that’s the same. Like Tom Douglass I would 
also put Thomas Douglass, and Tom Douglas and Thomas Douglass if I want to 
cover all versions. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2022, at 23:07, Ian Thomas  wrote:
> 
> 
> Trivia, but perhaps useful to others?
> Something I should have checked / aware of – discovered only recently:
> I have a person Thomas DOUGLAS. At some time in his life in the 1800s, it was 
> recorded as DOUGLASS (double-S). That may have been the family-accepted 
> spelling forever, I’m not sure.
>  
> But I had been entering the AKA in an incomplete way – eg, for this person, I 
> may have recorded an AKA as Tom (no surname in the addition), or as DOUGLASS 
> (no given names entered).
> When displaying  Index view (I use Family and Index consistently)  I was 
> surprised not to see his AKA name in full, in the Index view (Options set to 
> display it).
>  
> So, I saw ~DOUGLASS,   without his given name.  Or Tom (no surname at all). 
> Not so useful.
>  
>  
> I.L. Thomas
> Western Australia 6100
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[LegacyUG] AKA

2022-03-25 Thread Ian Thomas
Trivia, but perhaps useful to others?
Something I should have checked / aware of – discovered only recently:
I have a person Thomas DOUGLAS. At some time in his life in the 1800s, it was 
recorded as DOUGLASS (double-S). That may have been the family-accepted 
spelling forever, I’m not sure.

But I had been entering the AKA in an incomplete way – eg, for this person, I 
may have recorded an AKA as Tom (no surname in the addition), or as DOUGLASS 
(no given names entered).
When displaying  Index view (I use Family and Index consistently)  I was 
surprised not to see his AKA name in full, in the Index view (Options set to 
display it).

So, I saw ~DOUGLASS,   without his given name.  Or Tom (no surname at all). Not 
so useful.


I.L. Thomas
Western Australia 6100
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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-02 Thread Helen Whyte
Thanks, Linda.  I’ve made a red margin note in my user manual; and the next 
time I’m stuck, I’ll sure give it a try.  

 

Helen

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Linda Greethurst
Sent: 02 April 2019 14:00
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

 

Helen,

Have you tried the File Maintainence > Check?  So often that will clean 
up my gliches.

Linda

 

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:12 AM Helen Whyte  wrote:

Thanks, Michele.  I've tried the four steps, carefully, but no luck; on the
first line of the report, for the Husband and the Wife, the first line still
is 'AKA'; it was un-checked when I arrived at the 'Include' tab.  I tried to
check it; shut down the program; re-opened it; followed the four steps you
prescribed and unchecked the alternate names box;  New report appeared the
same as the previous report.  Is there anything else I could try?  Thanks
again for your help.

Helen Whyte in Wales 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: 01 April 2019 19:39
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure you
are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate
given and surnames.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Helen Whyte
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

Helen Whyte in Wales



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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-02 Thread Helen Whyte
Thanks, Leon.  I’ve checked and I’m up-to-date.  But I’ve tried Michele’s 
‘reset’ advice and it worked a charm.

Happy Days . . . 

 

Helen Whyte

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: 02 April 2019 13:33
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

 

It works for me using L9.0.0.282 – the latest version.

Check your version under the Legacy Home Tab to make sure you have the above 
version.

If not, then update to the latest version.

 



Leon Chapman



 

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From: Helen Whyte <mailto:hlb.wa...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 5:11 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

 

Thanks, Michele.  I've tried the four steps, carefully, but no luck; on the

first line of the report, for the Husband and the Wife, the first line still

is 'AKA'; it was un-checked when I arrived at the 'Include' tab.  I tried to

check it; shut down the program; re-opened it; followed the four steps you

prescribed and unchecked the alternate names box;  New report appeared the

same as the previous report.  Is there anything else I could try?  Thanks

again for your help.

 

Helen Whyte in Wales 

 

-Original Message-

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On

Behalf Of Michele Lewis

Sent: 01 April 2019 19:39

To: 'Legacy User Group'

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

 

Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure you

are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate

given and surnames.

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR

Legacy Educator

Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of

Helen Whyte

Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM

To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com

Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

 

Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of

my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

 

Helen Whyte in Wales

 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-02 Thread Helen Whyte
A million THANKS, Michele.  That worked a charm!  My very best,

Helen Whyte in Wales


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: 01 April 2019 19:39
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure you
are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate
given and surnames.
 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Helen Whyte
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

Helen Whyte in Wales



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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-02 Thread Linda Greethurst
Helen,
Have you tried the File Maintainence > Check?  So often that will
clean up my gliches.
Linda

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:12 AM Helen Whyte  wrote:

> Thanks, Michele.  I've tried the four steps, carefully, but no luck; on the
> first line of the report, for the Husband and the Wife, the first line
> still
> is 'AKA'; it was un-checked when I arrived at the 'Include' tab.  I tried
> to
> check it; shut down the program; re-opened it; followed the four steps you
> prescribed and unchecked the alternate names box;  New report appeared the
> same as the previous report.  Is there anything else I could try?  Thanks
> again for your help.
>
> Helen Whyte in Wales
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Michele Lewis
> Sent: 01 April 2019 19:39
> To: 'Legacy User Group'
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports
>
> Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure
> you
> are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate
> given and surnames.
>
>
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
> Legacy Educator
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/
>
>
> From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf
> Of
> Helen Whyte
> Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports
>
> Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
> my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.
>
> Helen Whyte in Wales
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-02 Thread Leon Chapman
It works for me using L9.0.0.282 – the latest version.
Check your version under the Legacy Home Tab to make sure you have the above 
version.
If not, then update to the latest version.


Leon Chapman


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Helen Whyte
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 5:11 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Thanks, Michele.  I've tried the four steps, carefully, but no luck; on the
first line of the report, for the Husband and the Wife, the first line still
is 'AKA'; it was un-checked when I arrived at the 'Include' tab.  I tried to
check it; shut down the program; re-opened it; followed the four steps you
prescribed and unchecked the alternate names box;  New report appeared the
same as the previous report.  Is there anything else I could try?  Thanks
again for your help.

Helen Whyte in Wales 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: 01 April 2019 19:39
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure you
are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate
given and surnames.
 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Helen Whyte
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

Helen Whyte in Wales



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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-02 Thread Michele Lewis
Helen,
Open the Family Group Report. Click the RESET button over near the bottom
right. Now uncheck that box again. Clicking the reset button will clear
everything out and start over from scratch in case something gets hung up.


Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
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mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
www.legacyfamilytree.com  


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Helen Whyte
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:11 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Thanks, Michele.  I've tried the four steps, carefully, but no luck; on the
first line of the report, for the Husband and the Wife, the first line still
is 'AKA'; it was un-checked when I arrived at the 'Include' tab.  I tried to
check it; shut down the program; re-opened it; followed the four steps you
prescribed and unchecked the alternate names box;  New report appeared the
same as the previous report.  Is there anything else I could try?  Thanks
again for your help.

Helen Whyte in Wales 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: 01 April 2019 19:39
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure you
are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate
given and surnames.
 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Helen Whyte
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

Helen Whyte in Wales



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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-02 Thread Helen Whyte
Thanks, Michele.  I've tried the four steps, carefully, but no luck; on the
first line of the report, for the Husband and the Wife, the first line still
is 'AKA'; it was un-checked when I arrived at the 'Include' tab.  I tried to
check it; shut down the program; re-opened it; followed the four steps you
prescribed and unchecked the alternate names box;  New report appeared the
same as the previous report.  Is there anything else I could try?  Thanks
again for your help.

Helen Whyte in Wales 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Lewis
Sent: 01 April 2019 19:39
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure you
are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate
given and surnames.
 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Helen Whyte
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

Helen Whyte in Wales



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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-01 Thread Michele Lewis
Open the Family Group Report. Click the Report Options button. Make sure you
are on the Include tab. Near the top of the left column Uncheck Alternate
given and surnames.
 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
Legacy Educator
Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/   


From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Helen Whyte
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

Helen Whyte in Wales



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[LegacyUG] AKA on Family Group Reports

2019-04-01 Thread Helen Whyte
Can someone tell me how to remove this 'Also Known As' from the top line of
my Family Group Sheets?  Thanks, for any help.

 

Helen Whyte in Wales

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

2019-03-19 Thread Ian Thomas
Pete
I would have the same preference as you – birth name, then add the AKA given 
names (Edward George) and the familiar Eddie.

Really, what I was asking was whether Legacy software when searching for 
“Hints”, in whichever targets I had selected for Hints, would use the AKA as 
well as the birth names.

If it does NOT, then I would keep 2 separate individuals (RIN would be 
distinct). Parents, siblings would be “common”.

Fortunately, this individual kept his surname the same.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pete
Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 5:17 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

Ian,
I have seen some of the type entries:
Adam [Eddie, Edward]
Addam/Eddie/Edward
Adam
I prefer using the Birth name and then add the “called” names as an AKA.  I 
have several such occurnace and

Pete Beatty

From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:57 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

Hi

Your question is whether to two people are actually one person. If you believe 
that they are then you should merge them and document your decision.

It is not uncommon for people to have multiple names, quite often as a nickname 
or because the family decided to use a different name.
Regards

Chris

From my Motorola G6+

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, 13:56 Ian Thomas, 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:
This is a question about how Legacy software uses an individual’s AKA entries, 
but I need to explain with a preface.

For a year or so I have wondered how to resolve this problem with an ancestor 
who changed his given names at some time between 1896 and 1900, when he moved 
from Melbourne to Cape Colony, South Africa.  Online (and still remaining) 
there are some family trees that list 2 members of the same family, with 
Identical birth date (ie, twins). That has been proven to be incorrect.  BDM 
registration information doesn’t support that and I don’t believe the records 
were lost.

He was born Adam James Douglass LANDELLS  in 1876. In 1882, on a younger 
brother’s birth certificate, his mother lists all children and he is “Eddie”, 
aged 6. There is an 1896 Police Gazette report of his deserting his 
illegitimate child – he is named and described: Edward Landells, correct age, 
same suburb.

In 1900, he marries in South Africa as Edward George LANDELLS - and there are 
numerous records of children born with father’s name Edward George LANDELLS. 
Documents in the possession of the next generations of those children give his 
exact date of birth as is known in Australia, for the Adam James Douglass  
LANDELLS above. And for this Edward George, various Australian connections are 
known and documented in South Africa and have been seen by still-living 
descendants.

Until now, I have found it convenient to retain 2 individuals within that part 
of the Landells family – they are (I believe) the same person, same birth date, 
different names  (and the Legacy Hints make use of those data and connections). 
 The “Adam” has no wife or children; the “Edward” has wife, children.

Question: should I retain the “Adam” individual (RIN 1303), and amalgamate all 
the “Edward” family connections and add an AKA – then delete the “Edward” 
individual (RIN 1304) ?

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

2019-03-19 Thread Pete
Ian,
I have seen some of the type entries:
Adam [Eddie, Edward]
Addam/Eddie/Edward
Adam 
I prefer using the Birth name and then add the “called” names as an AKA.  I 
have several such occurnace and
 
Pete Beatty
 
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Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:57 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?
 
Hi
 
Your question is whether to two people are actually one person. If you believe 
that they are then you should merge them and document your decision.
 
It is not uncommon for people to have multiple names, quite often as a nickname 
or because the family decided to use a different name.
Regards

Chris

>From my Motorola G6+
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, 13:56 Ian Thomas, mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> > wrote:
This is a question about how Legacy software uses an individual’s AKA entries, 
but I need to explain with a preface. 
 
For a year or so I have wondered how to resolve this problem with an ancestor 
who changed his given names at some time between 1896 and 1900, when he moved 
from Melbourne to Cape Colony, South Africa.  Online (and still remaining) 
there are some family trees that list 2 members of the same family, with 
Identical birth date (ie, twins). That has been proven to be incorrect.  BDM 
registration information doesn’t support that and I don’t believe the records 
were lost. 
 
He was born Adam James Douglass LANDELLS  in 1876. In 1882, on a younger 
brother’s birth certificate, his mother lists all children and he is “Eddie”, 
aged 6. There is an 1896 Police Gazette report of his deserting his 
illegitimate child – he is named and described: Edward Landells, correct age, 
same suburb.  
 
In 1900, he marries in South Africa as Edward George LANDELLS - and there are 
numerous records of children born with father’s name Edward George LANDELLS. 
Documents in the possession of the next generations of those children give his 
exact date of birth as is known in Australia, for the Adam James Douglass  
LANDELLS above. And for this Edward George, various Australian connections are 
known and documented in South Africa and have been seen by still-living 
descendants. 
 
Until now, I have found it convenient to retain 2 individuals within that part 
of the Landells family – they are (I believe) the same person, same birth date, 
different names  (and the Legacy Hints make use of those data and connections). 
 The “Adam” has no wife or children; the “Edward” has wife, children. 
 
Question: should I retain the “Adam” individual (RIN 1303), and amalgamate all 
the “Edward” family connections and add an AKA – then delete the “Edward” 
individual (RIN 1304) ?
 
Ian Thomas 
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

2019-03-19 Thread Chris Hill
Hi

Your question is whether to two people are actually one person. If you
believe that they are then you should merge them and document your decision.

It is not uncommon for people to have multiple names, quite often as a
nickname or because the family decided to use a different name.

Regards

Chris

>From my Motorola G6+

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, 13:56 Ian Thomas,  wrote:

> This is a question about how Legacy software uses an individual’s AKA
> entries, but I need to explain with a preface.
>
>
>
> For a year or so I have wondered how to resolve this problem with an
> ancestor who changed his given names at some time between 1896 and 1900,
> when he moved from Melbourne to Cape Colony, South Africa.  Online (and
> still remaining) there are some family trees that list 2 members of the
> same family, with Identical birth date (ie, twins). That has been proven to
> be incorrect.  BDM registration information doesn’t support that and I
> don’t believe the records were lost.
>
>
>
> He was born Adam James Douglass LANDELLS  in 1876. In 1882, on a younger
> brother’s birth certificate, his mother lists all children and he is
> “Eddie”, aged 6. There is an 1896 Police Gazette report of his deserting
> his illegitimate child – he is named and described: Edward Landells,
> correct age, same suburb.
>
>
>
> In 1900, he marries in South Africa as Edward George LANDELLS - and there
> are numerous records of children born with father’s name Edward George
> LANDELLS. Documents in the possession of the next generations of those
> children give his exact date of birth as is known in Australia, for the
> Adam James Douglass  LANDELLS above. And for this Edward George, various
> Australian connections are known and documented in South Africa and have
> been seen by still-living descendants.
>
>
>
> Until now, I have found it convenient to retain 2 individuals within that
> part of the Landells family – they are (I believe) the same person, same
> birth date, different names  (and the Legacy Hints make use of those data
> and connections).  The “Adam” has no wife or children; the “Edward” has
> wife, children.
>
>
>
> Question: should I retain the “Adam” individual (RIN 1303), and amalgamate
> all the “Edward” family connections and add an AKA – then delete the
> “Edward” individual (RIN 1304) ?
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
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[LegacyUG] AKA - can the Legacy Hints use them effectively?

2019-03-19 Thread Ian Thomas
This is a question about how Legacy software uses an individual's AKA entries, 
but I need to explain with a preface.

For a year or so I have wondered how to resolve this problem with an ancestor 
who changed his given names at some time between 1896 and 1900, when he moved 
from Melbourne to Cape Colony, South Africa.  Online (and still remaining) 
there are some family trees that list 2 members of the same family, with 
Identical birth date (ie, twins). That has been proven to be incorrect.  BDM 
registration information doesn't support that and I don't believe the records 
were lost.

He was born Adam James Douglass LANDELLS  in 1876. In 1882, on a younger 
brother's birth certificate, his mother lists all children and he is "Eddie", 
aged 6. There is an 1896 Police Gazette report of his deserting his 
illegitimate child - he is named and described: Edward Landells, correct age, 
same suburb.

In 1900, he marries in South Africa as Edward George LANDELLS - and there are 
numerous records of children born with father's name Edward George LANDELLS. 
Documents in the possession of the next generations of those children give his 
exact date of birth as is known in Australia, for the Adam James Douglass  
LANDELLS above. And for this Edward George, various Australian connections are 
known and documented in South Africa and have been seen by still-living 
descendants.

Until now, I have found it convenient to retain 2 individuals within that part 
of the Landells family - they are (I believe) the same person, same birth date, 
different names  (and the Legacy Hints make use of those data and connections). 
 The "Adam" has no wife or children; the "Edward" has wife, children.

Question: should I retain the "Adam" individual (RIN 1303), and amalgamate all 
the "Edward" family connections and add an AKA - then delete the "Edward" 
individual (RIN 1304) ?

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA

2016-11-22 Thread Jenny M Benson

On 22-Nov-16 01:17 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:

I’m sure there is a standard practice for this, but I’m not sure of it.

I have a more recent relative who died in 1917 in Perth, Australia and
her surname was spelled McEwan. Scottish Births and Baptisms lists her
(and corroborating family members) with the spelling Mcune (as shown:
not McCune or other variants).

My preference is (within Legacy FT) to record her, and each of her
siblings and her father, with the “recent” surname (McEwan) and use the
AKA Mcune (eg, Jane Mcune). Is this sensible, or should I use the SBB
records’ spellings, and only for the individual who died in Western
Australia change that to McEwan?



I'm not sure about "standard practice", but MY system is to use as the 
main spelling (in the Surname field) the one which occurs most often in 
documents (including those referring to parents or siblings), or given 
only 1 instance each of a couple of variants I will use the one which 
seems most likely to be "correct".  In your example, I would definitely 
consider "McEwan" to be the correct spelling.


I am very literal in my interpretation of the term AKA.  If I know that 
a person was actually known by one name for a period of time and by a 
different name for a period of time, I will use the earlier name as the 
definitive one and record the other as an AKA.  However, if - as in the 
case of McEwan and Mcune - it is merely a matter of a variant spelling I 
do not record this as an AKA, but will transcribe it exactly as written 
when I am creating Citations.


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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA

2016-11-21 Thread CE WOOD
If you want to be able to find any references to a person, regardless of how 
the name was spelled, pick one for the patronymic and use any and all others as 
AKAs. That way, when you find a mention of that patronymic, it will be in your 
database, and you will be able to see if the mention refers to your person.


I have thousands of entries in mediaeval times. The multiplicity of spellings, 
titles, French variants, Saxon variants, etc., that occur in various sources is 
amazing. Whatever variant I find, I enter as an AKA. That way, when I encounter 
a mention, I can easy and quickly check if that is the person in my database.


There really is no reason to not include any and all AKAs for persons, now that 
computers have so much memory. []


Remember, with Legacy, standard practice is not something to which you must 
adhere! That is one of its great strengths; you can do what you prefer!


CE



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Ian Thomas <il.tho...@outlook.com>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA


I’m sure there is a standard practice for this, but I’m not sure of it.

I have a more recent relative who died in 1917 in Perth, Australia and her 
surname was spelled McEwan. Scottish Births and Baptisms lists her (and 
corroborating family members) with the spelling Mcune (as shown: not McCune or 
other variants).

My preference is (within Legacy FT) to record her, and each of her siblings and 
her father, with the “recent” surname (McEwan) and use the AKA Mcune (eg, Jane 
Mcune). Is this sensible, or should I use the SBB records’ spellings, and only 
for the individual who died in Western Australia change that to McEwan?



Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia


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[LegacyUG] AKA

2016-11-21 Thread Ian Thomas
I'm sure there is a standard practice for this, but I'm not sure of it.
I have a more recent relative who died in 1917 in Perth, Australia and her 
surname was spelled McEwan. Scottish Births and Baptisms lists her (and 
corroborating family members) with the spelling Mcune (as shown: not McCune or 
other variants).
My preference is (within Legacy FT) to record her, and each of her siblings and 
her father, with the "recent" surname (McEwan) and use the AKA Mcune (eg, Jane 
Mcune). Is this sensible, or should I use the SBB records' spellings, and only 
for the individual who died in Western Australia change that to McEwan?

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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[LegacyUG] AKA vs. Nicknames [WAS: Duplicate search]

2013-04-24 Thread Ward Walker
Roland, I think you have to use double quotes for the nickname. I haven’t 
tested the Legacy reports, but I got a bunch of errors on my import of a GEDCOM 
that had used only single quotes.

I see the quoted nickname as appropriate when you want that name to be used in 
the reports. I.e., the person was usually called by that nickname by those who 
matter. However, if you have an alternative name for a person that is not their 
nickname, then the AKA seems a good place to record it. For example, this might 
be a spelling variant or the old-country version of the name, or it might apply 
when the person has changed their name.

   Ward

From: Roland Rhoades
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate search

This brings up another issue with Legacy. I NEVER use their aka names box 
because then you get that weird sentence Another name for Johanna Maria is 
Anna. I'd enter the name as Johanna Maria 'Anna' Schampers and then I can also 
see it immediately in Family View and the name index without looking at Notes.



Roland Rhoades

Maine Families Genealogist

www.RolandRhoades.com

see...@maine.rr.com

2010: 30 Years as a Genealogist



From: Mary Young [mailto:m...@cmy.org.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate search



Jay,

This looks likely to be the same person, named Johanna Maria aka Anna. Perhaps 
the Johanna Maria info. came from official sources, and the Anna info. from 
a family member who would know her aka. To be sure, one would have to verify 
the birth and death of Johanna, and make a full (unsuccessful) search for Anna.

However, you cannot expect Legacy to report them as potential duplicates unless 
you untick the option to Compare Given Names.

Mary Young





On 24 April 2013 19:19, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com wrote:

YET again today I found a duplicate that did not show up in my regular search 
for duplicates.

WHY can't Legacy show me simple easy potential duplicates like this:

Johanna Maria Schampers  born 2/8/1884 died 12/23/1974

Anna   Schampers  born 2/8/1884 died 12/23/1974

The surname AND birth and death dates are exactly the same, yet this potential 
duplicate does not show in my duplicate search 

This is one area Legacy gets an F in my book.

Jay








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[LegacyUG] AKA Names

2013-04-04 Thread John Gregson
In Legacy deluxe.

When I print the Family Group Record, the AKA Name is always there.
I did experiment with this, but I have now removed the only  AKA name.,
but it still
prints as a blank space, also AKA Fields with other people.
How do I remove the AKA field from my reports.
Have I missed something?

John.


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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

2013-04-04 Thread JLB
Go to the Options for that report and un-tick the box under Include that
says Alternate given and surnames.
-
JL Beeken
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://jlog.jgen.ws/

On 4/4/2013 1:35 PM, John Gregson wrote:
 In Legacy deluxe.

 When I print the Family Group Record, the AKA Name is always there.
 I did experiment with this, but I have now removed the only  AKA name.,
 but it still
 prints as a blank space, also AKA Fields with other people.
 How do I remove the AKA field from my reports.
 Have I missed something?

 John.




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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

2013-04-04 Thread John Gregson
That option is already un - ticked.

John.


On 04-Apr-13 2:01 PM, JLB wrote:
 Go to the Options for that report and un-tick the box under Include that
 says Alternate given and surnames.
 -
 JL Beeken
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://jlog.jgen.ws/

 On 4/4/2013 1:35 PM, John Gregson wrote:
 In Legacy deluxe.

 When I print the Family Group Record, the AKA Name is always there.
 I did experiment with this, but I have now removed the only  AKA name.,
 but it still
 prints as a blank space, also AKA Fields with other people.
 How do I remove the AKA field from my reports.
 Have I missed something?

 John.


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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

2013-04-04 Thread JLB
Ok then, try hitting the Reset button and starting from scratch.
-
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On 4/4/2013 2:21 PM, John Gregson wrote:
 That option is already un - ticked.

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RE: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

2013-04-04 Thread Don Brown
John
Look under the Format tab on the report you are using and make sure that you 
have not clicked the Do Not remove blank lines

Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

 -Original Message-
 From: John Gregson [mailto:jfgreg...@shaw.ca]
 Sent: April-04-13 5:22 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

 That option is already un - ticked.

 John.


 On 04-Apr-13 2:01 PM, JLB wrote:
  Go to the Options for that report and un-tick the box under Include
  that says Alternate given and surnames.
  -
  JL Beeken
  JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
  http://jlog.jgen.ws/
 
  On 4/4/2013 1:35 PM, John Gregson wrote:
  In Legacy deluxe.
 
  When I print the Family Group Record, the AKA Name is always there.
  I did experiment with this, but I have now removed the only  AKA
  name., but it still prints as a blank space, also AKA Fields with
  other people.
  How do I remove the AKA field from my reports.
  Have I missed something?
 
  John.
 







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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

2013-04-04 Thread John Gregson
Thanks Don.

That was the problem.

John
Dawson Creek, BC, Canada
---

On 04-Apr-13 2:46 PM, Don Brown wrote:
 John
 Look under the Format tab on the report you are using and make sure that you 
 have not clicked the Do Not remove blank lines

 Don Brown
 Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

 -Original Message-
 From: John Gregson [mailto:jfgreg...@shaw.ca]
 Sent: April-04-13 5:22 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] AKA Names

 That option is already un - ticked.

 John.


 On 04-Apr-13 2:01 PM, JLB wrote:
 Go to the Options for that report and un-tick the box under Include
 that says Alternate given and surnames.
 -
 JL Beeken
 JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
 http://jlog.jgen.ws/

 On 4/4/2013 1:35 PM, John Gregson wrote:
 In Legacy deluxe.

 When I print the Family Group Record, the AKA Name is always there.
 I did experiment with this, but I have now removed the only  AKA
 name., but it still prints as a blank space, also AKA Fields with
 other people.
 How do I remove the AKA field from my reports.
 Have I missed something?

 John.





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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA and Printing Family Tree

2012-06-20 Thread Lavern Hall
Thanks for the input everyone!
Jenny, I like the way the reports read using
the Quoted Given Name and will join you
and Virginia in adapting this style for Concettina/Clara. Thanks for
walking me
through it as well. :-)

Have a great day!
Lavern Hall

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:

 On 19/06/2012 22:16, Lavern Hall wrote:
  I'd like to know how others would handle this type of AKA entering.
  My cousin has been known by the name of Clara all of her life and
  this is the name that appears on all documents (marriage, school,
  SS index, will, etc.) except her birth record. Her birth record gives
  her name as Concettina. There is no formal change of name recorded
  in the court system. I know this information to be factual as I knew
  this individual myself and we discussed this issue as it relates to
  the genealogy file in our family tree.
  I have kept to the practice of entering the name that appears
  on the person's birth record in their individual record. All other
  names have been entered in the AKA file. In this case, I am
  wondering if I should make an exception for the sake of clarity
  when printing out the family tree, or if some sort of note should
  be make  (what/where?)
  Any thoughts on this?

 I would use a Quoted Given Name - ie, enter her forename as Concettina
 Clara on her Individual's Information page.  When printing Reports
 select the Format tab on Report Options and tick the boxes for Use
 quoted names for narratives and Remove quoted given names.

 By making those selections you will make Clara's entry in Reports read
 something like Concettina Doe, daughter of X and Y   She was
 usually known as Clara Clara married ... and so on.

 No need for any Notes!

 --
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[LegacyUG] AKA and Printing Family Tree

2012-06-19 Thread Lavern Hall
Hello everyone,

I'd like to know how others would handle this type of AKA entering.
My cousin has been known by the name of Clara all of her life and
this is the name that appears on all documents (marriage, school,
SS index, will, etc.) except her birth record. Her birth record gives
her name as Concettina. There is no formal change of name recorded
in the court system. I know this information to be factual as I knew
this individual myself and we discussed this issue as it relates to
the genealogy file in our family tree.

I have kept to the practice of entering the name that appears
on the person's birth record in their individual record. All other
names have been entered in the AKA file. In this case, I am
wondering if I should make an exception for the sake of clarity
when printing out the family tree, or if some sort of note should
be make  (what/where?)

Any thoughts on this?
Thanks,
Lavern Hall



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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA and Printing Family Tree

2012-06-19 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 19/06/2012 22:16, Lavern Hall wrote:
 I'd like to know how others would handle this type of AKA entering.
 My cousin has been known by the name of Clara all of her life and
 this is the name that appears on all documents (marriage, school,
 SS index, will, etc.) except her birth record. Her birth record gives
 her name as Concettina. There is no formal change of name recorded
 in the court system. I know this information to be factual as I knew
 this individual myself and we discussed this issue as it relates to
 the genealogy file in our family tree.
 I have kept to the practice of entering the name that appears
 on the person's birth record in their individual record. All other
 names have been entered in the AKA file. In this case, I am
 wondering if I should make an exception for the sake of clarity
 when printing out the family tree, or if some sort of note should
 be make  (what/where?)
 Any thoughts on this?

I would use a Quoted Given Name - ie, enter her forename as Concettina
Clara on her Individual's Information page.  When printing Reports
select the Format tab on Report Options and tick the boxes for Use
quoted names for narratives and Remove quoted given names.

By making those selections you will make Clara's entry in Reports read
something like Concettina Doe, daughter of X and Y   She was
usually known as Clara Clara married ... and so on.

No need for any Notes!

--
Jenny M Benson





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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA and Printing Family Tree

2012-06-19 Thread Sébastien Comeau
I would keep the standard of having the birth name as the default and the usual 
name as the AKA entry.

Sebastien

On 2012-06-19, at 17:16, Lavern Hall lavernh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I'd like to know how others would handle this type of AKA entering.
 My cousin has been known by the name of Clara all of her life and
 this is the name that appears on all documents (marriage, school,
 SS index, will, etc.) except her birth record. Her birth record gives
 her name as Concettina. There is no formal change of name recorded
 in the court system. I know this information to be factual as I knew
 this individual myself and we discussed this issue as it relates to
 the genealogy file in our family tree.

 I have kept to the practice of entering the name that appears
 on the person's birth record in their individual record. All other
 names have been entered in the AKA file. In this case, I am
 wondering if I should make an exception for the sake of clarity
 when printing out the family tree, or if some sort of note should
 be make  (what/where?)

 Any thoughts on this?
 Thanks,
 Lavern Hall


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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA and Printing Family Tree

2012-06-19 Thread Virginia Dunham
Lavern,

I use the method suggested by Jenny Benson...entering the formal name
followed by the Known as name in quotes.  Reports have clarity
without being too wordy..

Virginia



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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA/Nickname problem

2011-07-11 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 11/07/2011 03:33, Robert E. Carneal wrote:
 I swore this would never happen. I finally found some ancestors for
 whom have more than one AKA or more than one Nickname. How best to
 handle that in the name fields? Just pick the one I think was his/her
 most used AKA and run with that? I surely can't do this:

 Robert Robby Bobby Bob Rob Gene Eugene

 For the first name field. Reports would not interpret that correctly.
 Just choose one, say Bobby and run with that? So that it looks like:

 Robert Bobby

 in the first name field? And that way, Bobby would get used in
 reports. And put the other AKAs/Nicknames in the AKA field instead.
 Would that be the best approach?

I use AKAs a little differently to what many people (including Geoff, I
note from his webinars!) do.  I only create an AKA where it is obvious
that someone actually took and used an alternate name.  Examples of this
would be Reginald Dwight, AKA Elton Hercules John, my daughter who
decided to use her step-father's surname about a year after my second
marriage, a person on my tree who started using a different surname at
about the age of 21 for a reason I have not determined.

What I don't do is use AKA for alternative spellings or occasional
nicknames as found, for example, in Censuses and other documents.  When
entering the Event and the Citation I do spell the name exactly as given
in the document but if it is just a one-off spelling variant I do not
consider it to be an AKA.

Then there are nicknames or quoted names.  I would enter Robert
Bobby if I knew, or it was obvious, that that was his preferred
nickname and was in common usage:  not so much also known as as
usually known as.  If any nickname only cropped up a couple of times I
probably wouldn't use it as a quoted name, simply record it as it occurred.

In your case I think I might create a Nickname Event/Fact to formally
record all the variants of his name that seemed to have been used.  I
would only pick one as the quoted name if I was sure it was the one that
he was generally known by.
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Re: [LegacyUG] AKA/Nickname problem

2011-07-11 Thread cranberryfrog
I use the AKA field to record every variation of a name I find in the
records.  I use the name field to record the name that I believe to be their
given name.   When I run a report in Legacy, I always edit it so that it
doesn't come out too stiff if that makes sense.   When I am editing, I
would probably put some explanation in there.  For example, the Robert
Eugene that you used...  I would probably put something like this.

Robert Eugene Smith, known as Bob to most of his friends and family but in
his later years he seemed to prefer Gene.   Or, Robert Eugene Smith, known
as Bobby during his childhood but as he got older more people started
calling him Gene.  Then I would pick which name I wanted to continue with.

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[LegacyUG] AKA/Nickname problem

2011-07-10 Thread Robert E. Carneal
I swore this would never happen. I finally found some ancestors for
whom have more than one AKA or more than one Nickname. How best to
handle that in the name fields? Just pick the one I think was his/her
most used AKA and run with that? I surely can't do this:

Robert Robby Bobby Bob Rob Gene Eugene

For the first name field. Reports would not interpret that correctly.
Just choose one, say Bobby and run with that? So that it looks like:

Robert Bobby

in the first name field? And that way, Bobby would get used in
reports. And put the other AKAs/Nicknames in the AKA field instead.
Would that be the best approach?

Thank you.

Robert


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[LegacyUG] AKA in sentence definition ?

2011-07-08 Thread Robert E. Carneal
Also, one more thing. Suppose I don't want the first name in the
sentence definiton. What if I want a person's AKA? I didn't see AKA
nor nicknames in the list of possible fields. Can I select an AKA for
the sentence?

Thank you.

Robert


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[LegacyUG] AKA on Cemeteries, Hospitals, etc.

2010-02-14 Thread Betty
I am new to the board, so please be gentle if this question has already been
discussed. How do you handle cemeteries with several different names? I
would like to be able to reference that they are indeed the same cemetery
instead of cluttering my event addresses with the same information over and
over again. An example would be Cherry Tree E.U.B. Cemetery and Uniontown
Cemetery are one and the same. I would like to be able to pull a report on
who is buried in these cemeteries, so it is vital that I be able to cross
reference them. Any suggestions?




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RE: [LegacyUG] AKA on Cemeteries, Hospitals, etc.

2010-02-14 Thread leo macdonald

Hi,

Welcome to the list.

First I would enter the name of the cemetery as it was called when the person 
was buried.

Second I would click on the show master location list, highlight the name of 
the cemetery, click on the Edit button, in the next screen under the short 
location there is a section for notes, this is where I would enter a brief 
history of the cemetery like: from 1835 until 1957 this cemetery was called 
Cherry ..., from 1957 until the present day the name was changed to Uniontown 
Cemetery because ..., I would enter this information under both cemetery names. 
By entering it here you now can see that the one cemetery has two names.

To do a report on the one cemetery with two different names, highlight the 
first name of the cemetery in the location list, select options (on the right) 
then tagHighlighted records, select the second cemetery name, select 
options,then tagHighlighted records. Go to options again and select 
printLocation report choose the options you want for this report and choose 
either the preview or print.

Third, you could also enter this cemetery information in the notes section 
listed under the + sign to the right of the location, but you would have to add 
this information for each person who was burried in the cemetery.

I hope this helps,
Leo

 From: b...@nc.rr.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] AKA on Cemeteries, Hospitals, etc.
 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:34:20 -0500

 I am new to the board, so please be gentle if this question has already been
 discussed. How do you handle cemeteries with several different names? I
 would like to be able to reference that they are indeed the same cemetery
 instead of cluttering my event addresses with the same information over and
 over again. An example would be Cherry Tree E.U.B. Cemetery and Uniontown
 Cemetery are one and the same. I would like to be able to pull a report on
 who is buried in these cemeteries, so it is vital that I be able to cross
 reference them. Any suggestions?




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