RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gray
Glad that it worked. There is often (not always) a workaround to be found.



Paul



From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-09-14 12:43 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Thanks Paul.



A solution that worked.



In fact, after I renamed 1 TITL to 1 TITX in the gedcom, performed the import, 
it actually let me assign it to a Title (!) in the program (and not create an 
event).  It imported perfectly.  I found a TITX in the tag list, and a quick 
edit  it’s now Title.  And I’m back down to a reasonable amount (113) of tags.



Thanks for the solution!



Robert



From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Hi again Robert,



It’s clear that Legacy isn’t handling TITL the same as Roots Magic. In fact, 
standard Legacy doesn’t seem to have a ‘Title’ fact as RM does. I’m not going 
to debate which is right and which is wrong, the simple fact of the matter is 
that each program has their own data structures and imports and exports data as 
they best see fit, and inconsistencies occur.



However, you need a solution, not a debate. I may have found one. This was my 
workaround test.







1.  In RM, I added a Title (Nobility) fact (which seems to be a RM standard 
fact) to myself. I am guessing this is the RM fact type you used.



2.  Exported Gedcom



3.  Used a text editor (Notepad) to view/modify the GEDCOM to change the 
TITL tag to TITX. That changes it from a tag that Legacy recognizes and 
processes in a way you don’t want, to an unrecognized tag.



4.  Imported modified GEDCOM into Legacy.



5.  After the first step (analysis) you will see a popup saying there are 
unrecognized items. Click Yes to review them. TITX will be in the box at the 
upper left. Click ‘Create an Event for this Tag’, Enter ‘Title’ or whatever you 
want, and proceed. Seemed to work for me and created a ‘Title’ event with 
description, date, and place.



The only thing that’s a bit limiting about this is you seem to need to create a 
new event. I couldn’t seem to map to an existing event type.



Perhaps this is a solution for you?



Paul












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RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

2014-04-09 Thread Robert Stewart
Thanks Paul.



A solution that worked.



In fact, after I renamed 1 TITL to 1 TITX in the gedcom, performed the import, 
it actually let me assign it to a Title (!) in the program (and not create an 
event).  It imported perfectly.  I found a TITX in the tag list, and a quick 
edit  it’s now Title.  And I’m back down to a reasonable amount (113) of tags.



Thanks for the solution!



Robert



From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Hi again Robert,



It’s clear that Legacy isn’t handling TITL the same as Roots Magic. In fact, 
standard Legacy doesn’t seem to have a ‘Title’ fact as RM does. I’m not going 
to debate which is right and which is wrong, the simple fact of the matter is 
that each program has their own data structures and imports and exports data as 
they best see fit, and inconsistencies occur.



However, you need a solution, not a debate. I may have found one. This was my 
workaround test.







1.  In RM, I added a Title (Nobility) fact (which seems to be a RM standard 
fact) to myself. I am guessing this is the RM fact type you used.



2.  Exported Gedcom



3.  Used a text editor (Notepad) to view/modify the GEDCOM to change the 
TITL tag to TITX. That changes it from a tag that Legacy recognizes and 
processes in a way you don’t want, to an unrecognized tag.



4.  Imported modified GEDCOM into Legacy.



5.  After the first step (analysis) you will see a popup saying there are 
unrecognized items. Click Yes to review them. TITX will be in the box at the 
upper left. Click ‘Create an Event for this Tag’, Enter ‘Title’ or whatever you 
want, and proceed. Seemed to work for me and created a ‘Title’ event with 
description, date, and place.



The only thing that’s a bit limiting about this is you seem to need to create a 
new event. I couldn’t seem to map to an existing event type.



Perhaps this is a solution for you?



Paul











From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-09-14 9:33 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



I’d agree except that DSCR is handled fine.  TITL is not.  Both appear to be 
valid gedcom 5.5 tags, and least in the standards I’ve found online, since 1995 
from what I see, and I’d assume both would be processed the same way.



 nDSCR  {1:1}p.

+1 <>{0:1}p.



nTITL {1:1}p.

+1 <>{0:1}p.





(Both have details, dates, etc.)



Legacy accepts the DSCR just fine, but ignores the TITL, considering each 
instance of TITL a unique custom tag.



The reason I have Titles and not just Alt.Names is that the peerage acquired, 
retained, and lost various titles over their lives, so dates are a prominent 
fact of the title.  Once using a witness feature, and now I think I could do 
the same with share, I even linked the titles from predecessor, holder, 
successor.  So I could move up and down the change of “Earls of Suffolk” for 
example, from the 1st to the nth.



Not sure if I can do a bulk change of every TITL to EVEN-STYLE in RM.



I must have nearly 3,000 TITL entries in my gedcom.  That’s 1) a lot of data 
that’s suddenly lost, and 2) a lot of trash in my events selection.



If TITL were a custom, user-made, tag, I’d understand having to format it like 
Style which comes through as EVEN-STYLE.



What’s funny is that all the rest of my old custom tags came through just fine 
as custom tags.  (Like my Style, Arms, Annals 4M, and so on.)  What I can’t 
account for is TITL is transferred out of RM as a gedcom tag but  Legacy won’t 
accept it as a standard gedcom tag, and since it’s not formatted as a custom 
tag (which it isn’t) it makes a mess of it and treats each instance as a new 
unique custom tag.



Any ideas of how to convert some 3,000 1 TITL entries into 1 EVEN 2 Title and 
retain the text would be great.



I’m confident I can’t do it in RM, it would require some fancy text replacement 
machinations in GedPAD, and while MS Access 2013 will open all the tables, a 
primer on what table I should tackle to affect the changes (not the first time 
I’ve worked a massive database into shape) I’d try it.



Sorry to belabor this, but where was the information regarding which of the 
standard gedcom tags Legacy supports and which they don’t.  For a program with 
surprising attention to detail this seems to be a big issue.  (Or I’m not 
familiar enough with it to make the fix myself.)







From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Hello Robert,



If I understand you correctly, you want ‘events’ or ‘facts’ called title. In 
your first export example that did not 

RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gray
Hi again Robert,



It’s clear that Legacy isn’t handling TITL the same as Roots Magic. In fact, 
standard Legacy doesn’t seem to have a ‘Title’ fact as RM does. I’m not going 
to debate which is right and which is wrong, the simple fact of the matter is 
that each program has their own data structures and imports and exports data as 
they best see fit, and inconsistencies occur.



However, you need a solution, not a debate. I may have found one. This was my 
workaround test.







1.  In RM, I added a Title (Nobility) fact (which seems to be a RM standard 
fact) to myself. I am guessing this is the RM fact type you used.



2.  Exported Gedcom



3.  Used a text editor (Notepad) to view/modify the GEDCOM to change the 
TITL tag to TITX. That changes it from a tag that Legacy recognizes and 
processes in a way you don’t want, to an unrecognized tag.



4.  Imported modified GEDCOM into Legacy.



5.  After the first step (analysis) you will see a popup saying there are 
unrecognized items. Click Yes to review them. TITX will be in the box at the 
upper left. Click ‘Create an Event for this Tag’, Enter ‘Title’ or whatever you 
want, and proceed. Seemed to work for me and created a ‘Title’ event with 
description, date, and place.



The only thing that’s a bit limiting about this is you seem to need to create a 
new event. I couldn’t seem to map to an existing event type.



Perhaps this is a solution for you?



Paul









From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-09-14 9:33 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



I’d agree except that DSCR is handled fine.  TITL is not.  Both appear to be 
valid gedcom 5.5 tags, and least in the standards I’ve found online, since 1995 
from what I see, and I’d assume both would be processed the same way.



 nDSCR  {1:1}p.

+1 <>{0:1}p.



nTITL {1:1}p.

+1 <>{0:1}p.





(Both have details, dates, etc.)



Legacy accepts the DSCR just fine, but ignores the TITL, considering each 
instance of TITL a unique custom tag.



The reason I have Titles and not just Alt.Names is that the peerage acquired, 
retained, and lost various titles over their lives, so dates are a prominent 
fact of the title.  Once using a witness feature, and now I think I could do 
the same with share, I even linked the titles from predecessor, holder, 
successor.  So I could move up and down the change of “Earls of Suffolk” for 
example, from the 1st to the nth.



Not sure if I can do a bulk change of every TITL to EVEN-STYLE in RM.



I must have nearly 3,000 TITL entries in my gedcom.  That’s 1) a lot of data 
that’s suddenly lost, and 2) a lot of trash in my events selection.



If TITL were a custom, user-made, tag, I’d understand having to format it like 
Style which comes through as EVEN-STYLE.



What’s funny is that all the rest of my old custom tags came through just fine 
as custom tags.  (Like my Style, Arms, Annals 4M, and so on.)  What I can’t 
account for is TITL is transferred out of RM as a gedcom tag but  Legacy won’t 
accept it as a standard gedcom tag, and since it’s not formatted as a custom 
tag (which it isn’t) it makes a mess of it and treats each instance as a new 
unique custom tag.



Any ideas of how to convert some 3,000 1 TITL entries into 1 EVEN 2 Title and 
retain the text would be great.



I’m confident I can’t do it in RM, it would require some fancy text replacement 
machinations in GedPAD, and while MS Access 2013 will open all the tables, a 
primer on what table I should tackle to affect the changes (not the first time 
I’ve worked a massive database into shape) I’d try it.



Sorry to belabor this, but where was the information regarding which of the 
standard gedcom tags Legacy supports and which they don’t.  For a program with 
surprising attention to detail this seems to be a big issue.  (Or I’m not 
familiar enough with it to make the fix myself.)







From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Hello Robert,



If I understand you correctly, you want ‘events’ or ‘facts’ called title. In 
your first export example that did not work as you wished , the level 1 tag is 
not 1 EVEN.



Looking at the second example that did work as you wanted, level 1 is EVEN and 
level 2 is TYPE of ‘Style’.



If you want Legacy to treat them them the same (create events or tags) I would 
think the export would need to have level 1 of EVEN and level 2 of TYPE with 
value of Title or something similar.



To create an event/fact for title, I suspect Legacy needs level 1 needs to be 
EVEN.





Paul Gray



From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-08-14 11:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



TITL is a standard Gedcom 5.5 tag.

RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

2014-04-09 Thread Robert Stewart
I’d agree except that DSCR is handled fine.  TITL is not.  Both appear to be 
valid gedcom 5.5 tags, and least in the standards I’ve found online, since 1995 
from what I see, and I’d assume both would be processed the same way.



 nDSCR  {1:1}p.

+1 <>{0:1}p.



nTITL {1:1}p.

+1 <>{0:1}p.





(Both have details, dates, etc.)



Legacy accepts the DSCR just fine, but ignores the TITL, considering each 
instance of TITL a unique custom tag.



The reason I have Titles and not just Alt.Names is that the peerage acquired, 
retained, and lost various titles over their lives, so dates are a prominent 
fact of the title.  Once using a witness feature, and now I think I could do 
the same with share, I even linked the titles from predecessor, holder, 
successor.  So I could move up and down the change of “Earls of Suffolk” for 
example, from the 1st to the nth.



Not sure if I can do a bulk change of every TITL to EVEN-STYLE in RM.



I must have nearly 3,000 TITL entries in my gedcom.  That’s 1) a lot of data 
that’s suddenly lost, and 2) a lot of trash in my events selection.



If TITL were a custom, user-made, tag, I’d understand having to format it like 
Style which comes through as EVEN-STYLE.



What’s funny is that all the rest of my old custom tags came through just fine 
as custom tags.  (Like my Style, Arms, Annals 4M, and so on.)  What I can’t 
account for is TITL is transferred out of RM as a gedcom tag but  Legacy won’t 
accept it as a standard gedcom tag, and since it’s not formatted as a custom 
tag (which it isn’t) it makes a mess of it and treats each instance as a new 
unique custom tag.



Any ideas of how to convert some 3,000 1 TITL entries into 1 EVEN 2 Title and 
retain the text would be great.



I’m confident I can’t do it in RM, it would require some fancy text replacement 
machinations in GedPAD, and while MS Access 2013 will open all the tables, a 
primer on what table I should tackle to affect the changes (not the first time 
I’ve worked a massive database into shape) I’d try it.



Sorry to belabor this, but where was the information regarding which of the 
standard gedcom tags Legacy supports and which they don’t.  For a program with 
surprising attention to detail this seems to be a big issue.  (Or I’m not 
familiar enough with it to make the fix myself.)







From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Hello Robert,



If I understand you correctly, you want ‘events’ or ‘facts’ called title. In 
your first export example that did not work as you wished , the level 1 tag is 
not 1 EVEN.



Looking at the second example that did work as you wanted, level 1 is EVEN and 
level 2 is TYPE of ‘Style’.



If you want Legacy to treat them them the same (create events or tags) I would 
think the export would need to have level 1 of EVEN and level 2 of TYPE with 
value of Title or something similar.



To create an event/fact for title, I suspect Legacy needs level 1 needs to be 
EVEN.





Paul Gray



From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-08-14 11:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



TITL is a standard Gedcom 5.5 tag.



>From the gedcom I exported from RootMagic 6 and imported into Legacy 8, I have 
>two examples of titles.  One uses the TITL tag, the other was a custom tag I 
>created called Style.



1 TITL Earl of Mercia

2 DATE ABT 886

2 SOUR @S438@

3 PAGE pg. xlix

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page

5 VALUE pg. xlix



This is how it is exported.



But upon being imported by Legacy, “Earl of Mercia” is now the tag.  (And the 
1000s of other titles I’ve created are now also custom tags, each one of them, 
quite obscuring the “real” tags I want to use.)



I also, at some point, created a tag, called it Style, and it imported 
correctly.



It works, it displays as it ought to, and I’ve got a Style tag on the list to 
choose from, build a sentence around, etc.



1 EVEN

2 TYPE Style

2 DATE 1177

2 NOTE Dei Gratia Rex Anglorum, dux Normannorum, dux Aquitanorum et comes Ande

3 CONC gavorum, dominus Hiberniae



I understand that this is still an EVENT but the type has the event called 
Style where a name is required.



But TITL is on the same level as EVEN (Will, Probate, etc.) in the gedcom 5.5 
standard.  Why isn’t it treated the same way by Legacy?



TITL {TITLE}: =
A description of a specific writing or other work, such as the title of a book 
when used in a source context, or a formal designation used by an individual in 
connection with positions of royalty or other social status, such as Grand Duke.



EVEN {EVENT}: =
A noteworthy happening related to an individual, a group, or an organization.



TYPE {TYPE}: =
A further qualification to the meaning

RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

2014-04-09 Thread Paul Gray
Hello Robert,



If I understand you correctly, you want ‘events’ or ‘facts’ called title. In 
your first export example that did not work as you wished , the level 1 tag is 
not 1 EVEN.



Looking at the second example that did work as you wanted, level 1 is EVEN and 
level 2 is TYPE of ‘Style’.



If you want Legacy to treat them them the same (create events or tags) I would 
think the export would need to have level 1 of EVEN and level 2 of TYPE with 
value of Title or something similar.



To create an event/fact for title, I suspect Legacy needs level 1 needs to be 
EVEN.





Paul Gray



From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-08-14 11:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



TITL is a standard Gedcom 5.5 tag.



>From the gedcom I exported from RootMagic 6 and imported into Legacy 8, I have 
>two examples of titles.  One uses the TITL tag, the other was a custom tag I 
>created called Style.



1 TITL Earl of Mercia

2 DATE ABT 886

2 SOUR @S438@

3 PAGE pg. xlix

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page

5 VALUE pg. xlix



This is how it is exported.



But upon being imported by Legacy, “Earl of Mercia” is now the tag.  (And the 
1000s of other titles I’ve created are now also custom tags, each one of them, 
quite obscuring the “real” tags I want to use.)



I also, at some point, created a tag, called it Style, and it imported 
correctly.



It works, it displays as it ought to, and I’ve got a Style tag on the list to 
choose from, build a sentence around, etc.



1 EVEN

2 TYPE Style

2 DATE 1177

2 NOTE Dei Gratia Rex Anglorum, dux Normannorum, dux Aquitanorum et comes Ande

3 CONC gavorum, dominus Hiberniae



I understand that this is still an EVENT but the type has the event called 
Style where a name is required.



But TITL is on the same level as EVEN (Will, Probate, etc.) in the gedcom 5.5 
standard.  Why isn’t it treated the same way by Legacy?



TITL {TITLE}: =
A description of a specific writing or other work, such as the title of a book 
when used in a source context, or a formal designation used by an individual in 
connection with positions of royalty or other social status, such as Grand Duke.



EVEN {EVENT}: =
A noteworthy happening related to an individual, a group, or an organization.



TYPE {TYPE}: =
A further qualification to the meaning of the associated superior tag. The 
value does not have any computer processing reliability. It is more in the form 
of a short one or two word note that should be displayed any time the 
associated data is displayed.



Another example:



1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army

2 DATE 20 FEB 1968

2 SOUR @S485@

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page



Created a tag called “Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army”.



1 DSCR Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of Eyes Blue, Color of Hair Red/B

2 DATE 3 MAY 1972

2 SOUR @S460@

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page



Does not create a tag called “Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of Eyes 
Blue, Color of Hair Red/B”.



I don’t see how I can make RootsMagic export these TITLs more “properly” into a 
gedcom that Legacy will read and process correctly so that these 1,000s of 
titles, now tags, are all handled by one tag called Title.



Creating a dummy file in Legacy, and looking to add tags, I see 62 tags to pick 
from, albeit Title is not one of them.  Physical Description (DSCR) is.



Is there software that will convert



1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army



in a gedcom to



1 EVEN

2 TYPE Title

2 NOTE Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army



That’s where LTools could come in?  A global replace, with wildcards, and 
multiple lines?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

2014-04-09 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Robert
I would expect gedcom tag TITL to map to the Name Suffix field except that
you have an associated date which may be why it's mapping to an Event.
Is the solution to edit the Event/Fact in RM so that they all use "Style"?
I would think that was easier than editing the gedcom.
Just a thought.  In transferring from one program to another it's best to
play with options when the result is unsatisfactory.
Cathy
On 09/04/2014 1:59 PM, "Robert Stewart"  wrote:

> TITL is a standard Gedcom 5.5 tag.
>
>
>
> From the gedcom I exported from RootMagic 6 and imported into Legacy 8, I
> have two examples of titles.  One uses the TITL tag, the other was a custom
> tag I created called Style.
>
>
>
> 1 TITL Earl of Mercia
>
> 2 DATE ABT 886
>
> 2 SOUR @S438@
>
> 3 PAGE pg. xlix
>
> 3 _TMPLT
>
> 4 FIELD
>
> 5 NAME Page
>
> 5 VALUE pg. xlix
>
>
>
> This is how it is exported.
>
>
>
> But upon being imported by Legacy, "Earl of Mercia" is now the tag.  (And
> the 1000s of other titles I've created are now also custom tags, each one
> of them, quite obscuring the "real" tags I want to use.)
>
>
>
> I also, at some point, created a tag, called it Style, and it imported
> correctly.
>
>
>
> It works, it displays as it ought to, and I've got a Style tag on the list
> to choose from, build a sentence around, etc.
>
>
>
> 1 EVEN
>
> 2 TYPE Style
>
> 2 DATE 1177
>
> 2 NOTE Dei Gratia Rex Anglorum, dux Normannorum, dux Aquitanorum et comes
> Ande
>
> 3 CONC gavorum, dominus Hiberniae
>
>
>
> I understand that this is still an EVENT but the type has the event called
> Style where a name is required.
>
>
>
> But TITL is on the same level as EVEN (Will, Probate, etc.) in the gedcom
> 5.5 standard.  Why isn't it treated the same way by Legacy?
>
>
>
> *TITL {TITLE}:* =
> A description of a specific writing or other work, such as the title of a
> book when used in a source context, or a formal designation used by an
> individual in connection with positions of royalty or other social status,
> such as Grand Duke.
>
>
>
> *EVEN {EVENT}:* =
> A noteworthy happening related to an individual, a group, or an
> organization.
>
>
>
> *TYPE {TYPE}:* =
> A further qualification to the meaning of the associated superior tag. The
> value does not have any computer processing reliability. It is more in the
> form of a short one or two word note that should be displayed any time the
> associated data is displayed.
>
>
>
> Another example:
>
>
>
> 1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army
>
> 2 DATE 20 FEB 1968
>
> 2 SOUR @S485@
>
> 3 _TMPLT
>
> 4 FIELD
>
> 5 NAME Page
>
>
>
> Created a tag called "Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army".
>
>
>
> 1 DSCR Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of Eyes Blue, Color of Hair
> Red/B
>
> 2 DATE 3 MAY 1972
>
> 2 SOUR @S460@
>
> 3 _TMPLT
>
> 4 FIELD
>
> 5 NAME Page
>
>
>
> Does not create a tag called "Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of
> Eyes Blue, Color of Hair Red/B".
>
>
>
> I don't see how I can make RootsMagic export these TITLs more "properly"
> into a gedcom that Legacy will read and process correctly so that these
> 1,000s of titles, now tags, are all handled by one tag called Title.
>
>
>
> Creating a dummy file in Legacy, and looking to add tags, I see 62 tags to
> pick from, albeit Title is not one of them.  Physical Description (DSCR) is.
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> Is there software that will convert
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> 1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army
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> in a gedcom to
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> 1 EVEN
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> 2 TYPE Title
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> 2 NOTE Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army
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> That's where LTools could come in?  A global replace, with wildcards, and
> multiple lines?
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[LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

2014-04-08 Thread Robert Stewart
TITL is a standard Gedcom 5.5 tag.



>From the gedcom I exported from RootMagic 6 and imported into Legacy 8, I
have two examples of titles.  One uses the TITL tag, the other was a custom
tag I created called Style.



1 TITL Earl of Mercia

2 DATE ABT 886

2 SOUR @S438@

3 PAGE pg. xlix

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page

5 VALUE pg. xlix



This is how it is exported.



But upon being imported by Legacy, "Earl of Mercia" is now the tag.  (And
the 1000s of other titles I've created are now also custom tags, each one of
them, quite obscuring the "real" tags I want to use.)



I also, at some point, created a tag, called it Style, and it imported
correctly.



It works, it displays as it ought to, and I've got a Style tag on the list
to choose from, build a sentence around, etc.



1 EVEN

2 TYPE Style

2 DATE 1177

2 NOTE Dei Gratia Rex Anglorum, dux Normannorum, dux Aquitanorum et comes
Ande

3 CONC gavorum, dominus Hiberniae



I understand that this is still an EVENT but the type has the event called
Style where a name is required.



But TITL is on the same level as EVEN (Will, Probate, etc.) in the gedcom
5.5 standard.  Why isn't it treated the same way by Legacy?



TITL {TITLE}: =
A description of a specific writing or other work, such as the title of a
book when used in a source context, or a formal designation used by an
individual in connection with positions of royalty or other social status,
such as Grand Duke.



EVEN {EVENT}: =
A noteworthy happening related to an individual, a group, or an
organization.



TYPE {TYPE}: =
A further qualification to the meaning of the associated superior tag. The
value does not have any computer processing reliability. It is more in the
form of a short one or two word note that should be displayed any time the
associated data is displayed.



Another example:



1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army

2 DATE 20 FEB 1968

2 SOUR @S485@

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page



Created a tag called "Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army".



1 DSCR Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of Eyes Blue, Color of Hair
Red/B

2 DATE 3 MAY 1972

2 SOUR @S460@

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page



Does not create a tag called "Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of
Eyes Blue, Color of Hair Red/B".



I don't see how I can make RootsMagic export these TITLs more "properly"
into a gedcom that Legacy will read and process correctly so that these
1,000s of titles, now tags, are all handled by one tag called Title.



Creating a dummy file in Legacy, and looking to add tags, I see 62 tags to
pick from, albeit Title is not one of them.  Physical Description (DSCR) is.



Is there software that will convert



1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army



in a gedcom to



1 EVEN

2 TYPE Title

2 NOTE Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army



That's where LTools could come in?  A global replace, with wildcards, and
multiple lines?




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