[LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
Hello Everyone, I was wondering what everyone else was doing with their older sources that were made with the basic source templates from older versions, are you keeping them just the way they are? Or, are you changing them over to the SourceWriter? If so, what is the easiest way of doing this? I have been slowly re-adding my sources using SourceWriter one at a time, but there has to be an easier way of associating that older source with the newer one so I don't have to reconnect to each person again. I tried making a mock source with the basic format, connecting it to 1-2 people and also creating another mock source using SourceWriter and then combining them to see if that would be an easier way of connecting the people to the source. But it would not allow me to combine them. When the 7.0 was created, was there any discussion about how users could convert their older sources to the newer SourceWriter format? Thanks for any help on this Angelique Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
Angelique Welch angeli...@porphyrins.org wrote: I was wondering what everyone else was doing with their older sources that were made with the basic source templates from older versions, are you keeping them just the way they are? Or, are you changing them over to the SourceWriter? If so, what is the easiest way of doing this? My database was originally started in a different program back in the 1980s. I have much better uses for my time than trying to go back and update every source citation. I update them a few at a time when I'm working again on an individual or a particular family group. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
I still keep them - in fact I even enter new ones in my old format - I find the output in reports more to my liking and think they are quite good at sending anyone wishing to check them to the correct source - in my mind the only requirement for a source. If I have a totally new source - unlike any others - I have used SW. Keith -- Find-A-Grave County Keeper for Schuylkill County, PA Keith A. McKain McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 - # Mc17936 Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 Email: geosc...@comcast.net On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com wrote: Angelique Welch angeli...@porphyrins.org wrote: I was wondering what everyone else was doing with their older sources that were made with the basic source templates from older versions, are you keeping them just the way they are? Or, are you changing them over to the SourceWriter? If so, what is the easiest way of doing this? My database was originally started in a different program back in the 1980s. I have much better uses for my time than trying to go back and update every source citation. I update them a few at a time when I'm working again on an individual or a particular family group. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
Dennis Kowallek, a user on this list has created a program with alot of utilities. He has a tool that will do that for you. http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/ Tim Rosenlof (No Affiliation) Marvin Angelique Welch wrote: Hello Everyone, I was wondering what everyone else was doing with their older sources that were made with the basic source templates from older versions, are you keeping them just the way they are? Or, are you changing them over to the SourceWriter? If so, what is the easiest way of doing this? I have been slowly re-adding my sources using SourceWriter one at a time, but there has to be an easier way of associating that older source with the newer one so I don't have to reconnect to each person again. I tried making a mock source with the basic format, connecting it to 1-2 people and also creating another mock source using SourceWriter and then combining them to see if that would be an easier way of connecting the people to the source. But it would not allow me to combine them. When the 7.0 was created, was there any discussion about how users could convert their older sources to the newer SourceWriter format? Thanks for any help on this Angelique Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
This is a question that I had also and was very interested in the replies. I have looked at steps from Deborah but have a question. I see that you have the New Master Source and can delete the Old Master Source but what about the Source Detail that was part of the old source citation for each individual where you used the Old Master Source. This is different for each individual and I don't see anything that brings that over ? Lucy From: Deborah Trounstine dtrounst...@comcast.net 1. create your new SW source 2. go to View Master Lists Source 3. find your original old source in basic format and select it 4. click on show list - you will see a list of all the people attached to that source. 5. (very important) decide what # tag you want to use for this exercise, make sure it's showing in the Individual tag: box - then click Untag Everyone in File. This will clear all the tags of that number in your file. 6. then, on the same screen, click tag everyone in list. This will tag all of the people that you want associated with your new SW source. 7. close that window and get back to your main screen. 8. go to Tools Advanced Sourcing 9. on the which records to use tab, select Assign to all individuals with tag: (whatever # tag you chose in step 6 above) 10. on the where to assign citations tab, select Assign Citations to individual information and specific fields and chose which field/s you want this source assigned to 11. then, click on the Source Clipboard button 12. when that opens, you will see step 1: click here to select or change the master source to cite - click! 13. highlight and select your NEW SW source that you want to assign to all these people, add any detail that you want and click save 14. now you should be back at the source clipboard window - click apply 15. all of your individuals now have the new source in the fields that you chose. If you want to no longer have any reference to your original old source in these files: 16. return to View Master Lists Source 17. find your old source and click show list 18. choose delete this master source and all citations to it And you're done :) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
Hi Lucy, When I create my new SW source, I copy and paste from my original old source. Then I copy and paste any detail from the old source into the detail section of SW as well. Fortunately for me, I didn't know how to use detail so I have had very little of that to move over to the new type of source. I don't know how the L-tools program works but I have purchased it and plan to try it on a test source to see. Someone suggested that as a solution. Deborah Lucy Abbott wrote: This is a question that I had also and was very interested in the replies. I have looked at steps from Deborah but have a question. I see that you have the New Master Source and can delete the Old Master Source but what about the Source Detail that was part of the old source citation for each individual where you used the Old Master Source. This is different for each individual and I don't see anything that brings that over ? Lucy *From:* Deborah Trounstine dtrounst...@comcast.net 1. create your new SW source 2. go to View Master Lists Source 3. find your original old source in basic format and select it 4. click on show list - you will see a list of all the people attached to that source. 5. (very important) decide what # tag you want to use for this exercise, make sure it's showing in the Individual tag: box - then click Untag Everyone in File. This will clear all the tags of that number in your file. 6. then, on the same screen, click tag everyone in list. This will tag all of the people that you want associated with your new SW source. 7. close that window and get back to your main screen. 8. go to Tools Advanced Sourcing 9. on the which records to use tab, select Assign to all individuals with tag: (whatever # tag you chose in step 6 above) 10. on the where to assign citations tab, select Assign Citations to individual information and specific fields and chose which field/s you want this source assigned to 11. then, click on the Source Clipboard button 12. when that opens, you will see step 1: click here to select or change the master source to cite - click! 13. highlight and select your NEW SW source that you want to assign to all these people, add any detail that you want and click save 14. now you should be back at the source clipboard window - click apply 15. all of your individuals now have the new source in the fields that you chose. If you want to no longer have any reference to your original old source in these files: 16. return to View Master Lists Source 17. find your old source and click show list 18. choose delete this master source and all citations to it And you're done :) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Basic Sources v. SourceWriter
Lucy Abbott said the following on 2009/12/30 00:34: This is a question that I had also and was very interested in the replies. I have looked at steps from Deborah but have a question. I see that you have the New Master Source and can delete the Old Master Source but what about the Source Detail that was part of the old source citation for each individual where you used the Old Master Source. This is different for each individual and I don't see anything that brings that over ? 16. return to View Master Lists Source 17. find your old source and click show list 18. choose delete this master source and all citations to it See last step :-) -- Regards a Prosperous New Year to All, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
