Re: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard
On 10/01/2012 23:17, Kathy Jones wrote: I have two questions and probably I should send two separate e-mails but I will number them. 1.I have two different types of census sources for several people for one year – e.g. 1901 census – one is erroneously shown as a census form a book and the other is from an on-line database. The correct sourcing is from an on-line database. Is there any way to change the source from the book to an on-line data base so I can combine the two sources and have the correct sourcing for everyone in the two master sources? And I do hope this question makes sense. Presumably you are talking about SourceWriter? If so, it is not possible to merge 2 Sources which use different templates. Well, I think it might be using Access or possibly Ltools. Dennis will be along in a minute to tell you if Ltools will do that (I know it works for combining Basic and SW Sources.) Message to all posters: when writing about Sources, please always specify whether you are using SourceWriter or Basic Sources as it may make a difference to any answers. 2.Where is the Legacy clipboard? I have references to missing multimedia files that are not attached anywhere. So I assume they are on the clipboard and if I can remove them from the clipboard, then I won’t be constantly reminded that I have missing multi-media sources. I'm afraid you're assuming wrongly. The Legacy clipboard is just like the Windows clipboard - it's a temporary storage space for one item that you have copied, preparatory to pasting it elsewhere. When copying an Event, it copies ALL the Event details plus any attached Sources. Missing multimedia files means that Legacy can't find the files in the place where it expects to. For example, you attached a file stored in C:\Legacy\Pictures and later you moved it to another folder or deleted it, so Legacy now doesn't know where it is. Or possibly you changed the name of a file so Legacy doesn't know it should now look for John + Jane wedding.jpg instead of John + Jane weeding.jpg. If you go to OptionsCustomiseLocations and click Test all multimedia paths you can get a list of all the missing media and then re-attach them or unlink them. If you need further help with that, let us know. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:37:16 +, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Dennis will be along in a minute to tell you if Ltools will do that (I know it works for combining Basic and SW Sources.) It won't. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard
1. - I think the real question here is what's the best way to fix a source? If it is just one source on one fact for one person, deleting and recreating is probably the best. But if it is a source used by many facts and/or by many people, just finding all the entries that need fixing could be a royal pain - let alone doing the actual deletion and re-adding. For place names, we can change a misspelling in the master location list and the fix is now reflected on all people that used it. Is there something similar than can be done for a source - fix it once and have the change reflected for everyone? I guess you can tell that I'm new to sourcing - which I guess means most of my genealogy is, in fact, mythology!As I do more and more data entry and run into things where I say to myself where did I come up with that info?, I'm beginning to see the logic behind the phrase: Genealogy without Documentation is Mythology! Bob On 01/10/2012 19:10, Ron Ferguson wrote: Kathy, 1. I may not have understood this question properly, as I cannot understand why you don’t just delete the wrong one and attach the correct one. 2. I think that you have a basic misunderstanding here. The images are not on the clipboard, but are. or were at some time, on your hard drive and attached to some records. You have to choices: i. Use windows Explorer to find the current files locations and reattach them, or ii. Use the Test all multimedia Paths option; checking the option to unlink missing links. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ *From:* Kathy Jones mailto:ka...@flyingneedle.ca *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:17 PM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard I have two questions and probably I should send two separate e-mails but I will number them. 1.I have two different types of census sources for several people for one year – e.g. 1901 census – one is erroneously shown as a census form a book and the other is from an on-line database. The correct sourcing is from an on-line database. Is there any way to change the source from the book to an on-line data base so I can combine the two sources and have the correct sourcing for everyone in the two master sources? And I do hope this question makes sense. 2.Where is the Legacy clipboard? I have references to missing multimedia files that are not attached anywhere. So I assume they are on the clipboard and if I can remove them from the clipboard, then I won’t be constantly reminded that I have missing multi-media sources. Thanks for any insight anyone has on these two problems. */Kathy Jones/* www.flyingneedle.ca http://www.flyingneedle.ca/ mailto:ka...@flyingneedle.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard
On 11/01/2012 13:27, Robert57P_gmail wrote: For place names, we can change a misspelling in the master location list and the fix is now reflected on all people that used it. Is there something similar than can be done for a source - fix it once and have the change reflected for everyone? Yes and no! If you simply enter some incorrect information (or omit some information) in a Master Source, you can amend the Master Source once and you have the option apply that amendment to every instance of that Master Source in use. If you make an error in a Source Detail or wish to change it in some way, you *may* be able to use Search and Replace, depending on the nature of the change to be made. What you cannot do within Legacy is merge 2 SourceWriter Sources which are based on different templates, merge a Basic Source with a SW one or convert a Basic Source to a SW one. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard
Kathy, To take care of #1 manually, here's what I generally do: Find the WRONG source in the Master Source list and highlight it. Click on Show List to get all the Individuals currently citing that Source. Select a Tag number you are not already using and click on 'Tag Everyone in List'. Get out of the Master Source list. Make sure the Tag number you selected is set to show. (Right click on a tag number for an individual to get to the Advanced Tagging window and click 'Tags to Show'.) Go to the first person tagged. (Click on 'Indi. Tag #' at the bottom and be sure to 'Use' the tag # you selected, then click on the right arrow / triangle.) For this first person, set up the CORRECT citation in the Source Clipboard: Click on the 'books' icon to get to the source citation list for this person. Highlight the Census Event and click 'Cite a Master Source'. Select the CORRECT Master Source. Enter the Detail information for the citation and click 'Save'. With this newly-added citation still highlighted, PUT IT ON THE SOURCE CLIPBOARD. (Click on the little copy icon on the left side of the Assigned Sources window, near the bottom. (copy/overwrite existing? yes) ) To double-check the Source Clipboard, I always also then click on the up arrow / blue triangle just above that. (In that window you can also 'Save a Clipboard' so you can continue this activity at another time... should it be a lengthy task!) and 'Save'. Lastly, delete the WRONG citation from the Census Event for that Individual and 'Close'. Then UNTAG this person. **Move to the next tagged person: Click on the 'book' icon. Highlight the WRONG citation and click 'Remove'. With the Census Event still highlighted, click on the blue minus sign '-' (between the up arrow/blue triangle and the copy icon on the left side)... which adds the CORRECT citation. Click 'Close' and untag this person. Repeat from ** until you reach the end of the tagged individuals. Find the WRONG source in the Master Source list again. Double-check your work: Click 'Show List' and there should be NO ONE. Delete the WRONG Master Source... click 'Options'. Voila! That gets the citations changed. If you are wanting to also change something(s) about the Census Event, there is an Event Clipboard well, if that *IS* what you want to do, I would approach it slightly differently, I think. Let us know. ;) Another consideration: Are you sure all the same people are included in the new source? I mean, what was wrong with the old source? And there may be MORE people to which the new source applies... you can use the clipboard for them, too. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Kathy Jones ka...@flyingneedle.ca To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, January 10, 2012 5:17:51 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard I have two questions and probably I should send two separate e-mails but I will number them. 1. I have two different types of census sources for several people for one year – e.g. 1901 census – one is erroneously shown as a census form a book and the other is from an on-line database. The correct sourcing is from an on-line database. Is there any way to change the source from the book to an on-line data base so I can combine the two sources and have the correct sourcing for everyone in the two master sources? And I do hope this question makes sense. snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard
I have two questions and probably I should send two separate e-mails but I will number them. 1. I have two different types of census sources for several people for one year - e.g. 1901 census - one is erroneously shown as a census form a book and the other is from an on-line database. The correct sourcing is from an on-line database. Is there any way to change the source from the book to an on-line data base so I can combine the two sources and have the correct sourcing for everyone in the two master sources? And I do hope this question makes sense. 2. Where is the Legacy clipboard? I have references to missing multimedia files that are not attached anywhere. So I assume they are on the clipboard and if I can remove them from the clipboard, then I won't be constantly reminded that I have missing multi-media sources. Thanks for any insight anyone has on these two problems. Kathy Jones www.flyingneedle.ca http://www.flyingneedle.ca/ mailto:ka...@flyingneedle.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard
Kathy, 1. I may not have understood this question properly, as I cannot understand why you don’t just delete the wrong one and attach the correct one. 2. I think that you have a basic misunderstanding here. The images are not on the clipboard, but are. or were at some time, on your hard drive and attached to some records. You have to choices: i. Use windows Explorer to find the current files locations and reattach them, or ii. Use the Test all multimedia Paths option; checking the option to unlink missing links. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Kathy Jones Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:17 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Census source changes and Legacy clipboard I have two questions and probably I should send two separate e-mails but I will number them. 1. I have two different types of census sources for several people for one year – e.g. 1901 census – one is erroneously shown as a census form a book and the other is from an on-line database. The correct sourcing is from an on-line database. Is there any way to change the source from the book to an on-line data base so I can combine the two sources and have the correct sourcing for everyone in the two master sources? And I do hope this question makes sense. 2. Where is the Legacy clipboard? I have references to missing multimedia files that are not attached anywhere. So I assume they are on the clipboard and if I can remove them from the clipboard, then I won’t be constantly reminded that I have missing multi-media sources. Thanks for any insight anyone has on these two problems. Kathy Jones www.flyingneedle.ca mailto:ka...@flyingneedle.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
