Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Cathy Pinner]

Jane,

If you're going to the Assigned Sources screen to use the Source 
Clipboard, then you're not using it as efficiently as you can when using 
it from data entry screens. It may be time to rethink your work flow.


Cathy


Jane Linkswiler <mailto:jcl...@cox.net>
Friday, 28 July 2017 4:14 AM
Oh! I was going to say that's no so on v8 but then in looking further, I see 
that the button with the 3 horizontal lines is on the Individual Information 
screen. I pretty much use the individual's Sources screen where there is no 
button with the 3 horizontal lines.

Jane in Phoenix

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
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To: Legacy User Group<LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

There are two buttons with horizontal bars, one has a single bar and that one 
will only assign the clipboard source to the currently selected field. the one 
with three bars is below that single bar button, it will assign the clipboard 
source to all date, including any entered events.

The button with the solid square will assign the clipboard source to the 
"unspecified" field. This is a general assignment to the person not a specific 
piece of data.

Are you sure you are clicking on the button with three bars when you only get 
the source assigned to a single piece of data?

Brian Kelly

On 27-Jul-17 10:41 AM, Dennis Birke wrote:

Leon, regarding your first option, you say that “1 click on triple bar on left 
side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for 
that person.”



When I try this, the clipboard source is copied into only one field – the field 
where the arrow is then located.  I understood you to be saying that if I 
proceeded in the manner you suggested, the clipboard source would be copied 
into every field where data had been entered for that person.  Is that correct? 
 If so, what do you think I’m doing wrong?

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
On Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source&  
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all 
the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data entry to 
assign the source to that persons data.

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source
A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.
B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
 A.  Create 1 master source for these people
 B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
 C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.

Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

Good luck.

Leon Chapman


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Dennis Birke <mailto:dpbi...@gmail.com>
Thursday, 27 July 2017 10:41 PM

Leon, regarding your first option, you say that “1 click on triple bar 
on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all 
the fields for that person.”


When I try this, the clipboard source is copied into only one field – 
the field where the arrow is then located.  I understood you to be 
saying that if I proceeded in the manner you suggested, the clipboard 
source would be copied into every field where data had been entered 
for that person.  Is that correct?  If so, what do you think I’m doing 
wrong?


*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Leon 
Chapman

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master 
source & clipboard

Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Leon Chapman]

Hope this helps.
Jane — I am in Surprise, AZ

Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com



> On Jul 27, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Jane Linkswiler <jcl...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh! I was going to say that's no so on v8 but then in looking further, I see 
> that the button with the 3 horizontal lines is on the Individual Information 
> screen. I pretty much use the individual's Sources screen where there is no 
> button with the 3 horizontal lines.
> 
> Jane in Phoenix
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
> <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>] On Behalf Of Brian Kelly
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: Legacy User Group <LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 
> <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source
> 
> There are two buttons with horizontal bars, one has a single bar and that one 
> will only assign the clipboard source to the currently selected field. the 
> one with three bars is below that single bar button, it will assign the 
> clipboard source to all date, including any entered events.
> 
> The button with the solid square will assign the clipboard source to the 
> "unspecified" field. This is a general assignment to the person not a 
> specific piece of data.
> 
> Are you sure you are clicking on the button with three bars when you only get 
> the source assigned to a single piece of data?
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> On 27-Jul-17 10:41 AM, Dennis Birke wrote:
>> Leon, regarding your first option, you say that “1 click on triple bar on 
>> left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all the 
>> fields for that person.”
> 
>> When I try this, the clipboard source is copied into only one field – the 
>> field where the arrow is then located.  I understood you to be saying that 
>> if I proceeded in the manner you suggested, the clipboard source would be 
>> copied into every field where data had been entered for that person.  Is 
>> that correct?  If so, what do you think I’m doing wrong?
>> 
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Leon Chapman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
>> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source
>> 
>> You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.
>> 
>> You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.
>> 
>> 1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source 
>> & clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the 
>> master source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 
>> click on triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard 
>> source to all the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click 
>> on data entry to assign the source to that persons data.
>> 
>> 2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then 
>> create 1 master source
>>   A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.
>>   B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
>> common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.
>> 
>> 3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
>>A.  Create 1 master source for these people
>>B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
>> information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
>>C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
>> everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.
>> 
>> Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more 
>> knowledge of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less 
>> that about 15-20 people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 
>> people, then option 2 or 3 will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of 
>> everyone’s information.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Leon Chapman
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Jane Linkswiler]

Oh! I was going to say that's no so on v8 but then in looking further, I see 
that the button with the 3 horizontal lines is on the Individual Information 
screen. I pretty much use the individual's Sources screen where there is no 
button with the 3 horizontal lines.

Jane in Phoenix

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:01 PM
To: Legacy User Group <LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

There are two buttons with horizontal bars, one has a single bar and that one 
will only assign the clipboard source to the currently selected field. the one 
with three bars is below that single bar button, it will assign the clipboard 
source to all date, including any entered events.

The button with the solid square will assign the clipboard source to the 
"unspecified" field. This is a general assignment to the person not a specific 
piece of data.

Are you sure you are clicking on the button with three bars when you only get 
the source assigned to a single piece of data?

Brian Kelly

On 27-Jul-17 10:41 AM, Dennis Birke wrote:
> Leon, regarding your first option, you say that “1 click on triple bar on 
> left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields 
> for that person.”

> When I try this, the clipboard source is copied into only one field – the 
> field where the arrow is then located.  I understood you to be saying that if 
> I proceeded in the manner you suggested, the clipboard source would be copied 
> into every field where data had been entered for that person.  Is that 
> correct?  If so, what do you think I’m doing wrong?
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
> On Behalf Of Leon Chapman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source
> 
> You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.
> 
> You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.
> 
> 1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source 
> & clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the 
> master source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 
> click on triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard 
> source to all the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click 
> on data entry to assign the source to that persons data.
> 
> 2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then 
> create 1 master source
>A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.
>B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
> common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.
> 
> 3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
> A.  Create 1 master source for these people
> B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
> information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
> C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
> everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.
> 
> Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more 
> knowledge of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that 
> about 15-20 people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then 
> option 2 or 3 will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s 
> information.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Leon Chapman

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Brian Kelly]

There are two buttons with horizontal bars, one has a single bar and 
that one will only assign the clipboard source to the currently selected 
field. the one with three bars is below that single bar button, it will 
assign the clipboard source to all date, including any entered events.


The button with the solid square will assign the clipboard source to the 
"unspecified" field. This is a general assignment to the person not a 
specific piece of data.


Are you sure you are clicking on the button with three bars when you 
only get the source assigned to a single piece of data?


Brian Kelly

On 27-Jul-17 10:41 AM, Dennis Birke wrote:

Leon, regarding your first option, you say that “1 click on triple bar on left 
side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for 
that person.”



When I try this, the clipboard source is copied into only one field – the field 
where the arrow is then located.  I understood you to be saying that if I 
proceeded in the manner you suggested, the clipboard source would be copied 
into every field where data had been entered for that person.  Is that correct? 
 If so, what do you think I’m doing wrong?

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source & 
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all 
the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data entry to 
assign the source to that persons data.

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source
   A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.
   B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
A.  Create 1 master source for these people
B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.

Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

Good luck.

Leon Chapman


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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Brian Kelly]

There are two buttons with horizontal bars, one has a single bar and 
that one will only assign the clipboard source to the currently selected 
field. the one with three bars is below that single bar button, it will 
assign the clipboard source to all date, including any entered events.


The button with the solid square will assign the clipboard source to the 
"unspecified" field. This is a general assignment to the person not a 
specific piece of data.


Are you sure you are clicking on the button with three bars when you 
only get the source assigned to a single piece of data?


Brian Kelly

On 27-Jul-17 10:41 AM, Dennis Birke wrote:

Leon, regarding your first option, you say that “1 click on triple bar on left 
side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for 
that person.”



When I try this, the clipboard source is copied into only one field – the field 
where the arrow is then located.  I understood you to be saying that if I 
proceeded in the manner you suggested, the clipboard source would be copied 
into every field where data had been entered for that person.  Is that correct? 
 If so, what do you think I’m doing wrong?

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source & 
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all 
the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data entry to 
assign the source to that persons data.

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source
   A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.
   B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
A.  Create 1 master source for these people
B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.

Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

Good luck.

Leon Chapman


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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Dennis Birke]

Leon, regarding your first option, you say that “1 click on triple bar on left 
side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for 
that person.”  

 

When I try this, the clipboard source is copied into only one field – the field 
where the arrow is then located.  I understood you to be saying that if I 
proceeded in the manner you suggested, the clipboard source would be copied 
into every field where data had been entered for that person.  Is that correct? 
 If so, what do you think I’m doing wrong?

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

 

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

 

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source & 
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to 
all the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data 
entry to assign the source to that persons data.

 

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source

  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.   

  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

 

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing

   A.  Create 1 master source for these people

   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)

   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to everyone 
with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.

 

 

Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

 

Good luck.


Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com> 



 

On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Dennis Birke <dpbi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dpbi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’ve been using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to cite 
sources.  So, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to handle citations.  
Here is the situation I’m currently grappling with:

 

Until recently, my family database did not include information about the 
descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s sisters.  I recently connected 
with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with fairly complete 
information about all of the sister’s descendants – about 40 people when you 
include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight in getting this treasure trove of 
information in one fell swoop!)

 

Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I’d like to cite the source 
(i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels like 
“overkill” to generate a citation to this source for each of four or five 
fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That’s a lot of repetitive work 
(even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of duplicate 
footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I most 
frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one citation 
(probably connected with the sister) saying something like:  “Unless otherwise 
noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her descendants was 
obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated .”  

 

The problem I see with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports, the 
single citation tied to the sister may not be included in the report and there 
will be nothing cited for a the many descendants.  

 

How would those of you familiar with citation practices handle this situation?

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Cathy Pinner]

Dennis,

If you cite it for every piece of information (as you should and you'll 
be glad you did later when you find other sources for it), if you don't 
change it every time (by making the source detail specific to the actual 
fact) then in a Descendant Book it will be referenced many times and 
only listed once UNLESS you are using footnotes and/or combining 
citations in one paragraph.
For this reason I usually find my citations list shorter (by pages) when 
I don't combine into one paragraph.


For it to be listed once the whole source has to be identical down to 
the last space or period.


Cathy


Dennis Birke <mailto:dpbi...@gmail.com>
Thursday, 27 July 2017 5:27 AM

Thanks to everyone who responded.  I’ll try some of the suggested 
options tonight.


*From:* LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Leon 
Chapman

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master 
source & clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - 
create the master source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each 
person’s data and 1 click on triple bar on left side of data entry 
screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for that person. 
 So, basically, it is 1 more click on data entry to assign the source 
to that persons data.


2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and 
then create 1 master source


  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.

  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will 
need one common person in both databases to aid with the 
import/merging of people.


3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing

   A.  Create 1 master source for these people

   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave 
you the information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)


   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.


Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more 
knowledge of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have 
less that about 15-20 people, I would use option 1.  When you more 
than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 will be much easier to accomplish 
the sourcing of everyone’s information.


Good luck.


Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com>

Leon Chapman <mailto:chap...@gmail.com>
Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:02 AM
You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.
1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master 
source & clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - 
create the master source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each 
person’s data and 1 click on triple bar on left side of data entry 
screen assigns the clipboard source to all the fields for that person. 
 So, basically, it is 1 more click on data entry to assign the source 
to that persons data.


2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and 
then create 1 master source

  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.
  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will 
need one common person in both databases to aid with the 
import/merging of people.


3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
   A.  Create 1 master source for these people
   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave 
you the information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to 
everyone with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.



Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more 
knowledge of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have 
less that about 15-20 people, I would use option 1.  When you more 
than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 will be much easier to accomplish 
the sourcing of everyone’s information.


Good luck.

Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com>




Dennis Birke <mailto:dpbi...@gmail.com>
Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:36 PM

I’ve been using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to 
cite sources.  So, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to 
handle citations.  Here is the situation I’m currently grappling with:


Until recently, my family database did not include information about 
the descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s sisters.  I recently 
connected with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with 
fairly complete information about all of the sister’s descendants – 
about 40 people when you include spouses.  (You can imagin

Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Dennis Birke]

Thanks to everyone who responded.  I’ll try some of the suggested options 
tonight.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

 

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

 

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.

1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source & 
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to 
all the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data 
entry to assign the source to that persons data.

 

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source

  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.   

  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

 

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing

   A.  Create 1 master source for these people

   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)

   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to everyone 
with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.

 

 

Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

 

Good luck.


Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com <mailto:chap...@gmail.com> 



 

On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Dennis Birke <dpbi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dpbi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’ve been using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to cite 
sources.  So, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to handle citations.  
Here is the situation I’m currently grappling with:

 

Until recently, my family database did not include information about the 
descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s sisters.  I recently connected 
with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with fairly complete 
information about all of the sister’s descendants – about 40 people when you 
include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight in getting this treasure trove of 
information in one fell swoop!)

 

Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I’d like to cite the source 
(i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels like 
“overkill” to generate a citation to this source for each of four or five 
fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That’s a lot of repetitive work 
(even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of duplicate 
footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I most 
frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one citation 
(probably connected with the sister) saying something like:  “Unless otherwise 
noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her descendants was 
obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated .”  

 

The problem I see with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports, the 
single citation tied to the sister may not be included in the report and there 
will be nothing cited for a the many descendants.  

 

How would those of you familiar with citation practices handle this situation?

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Leon Chapman]

You MUST cite each piece of data for every person.

You can do the sourcing in a few different ways.
1. Source each person and their data as you enter them using 1 master source & 
clipboard - this is what I would do.  This is pretty easy - create the master 
source and copy it to the clipboard.  Enter each person’s data and 1 click on 
triple bar on left side of data entry screen assigns the clipboard source to 
all the fields for that person.  So, basically, it is 1 more click on data 
entry to assign the source to that persons data.

2. Create a blank Legacy database and enter all the new people and then create 
1 master source
  A. Then, source everyone and all their data using advanced sourcing.   
  B.  Import these people into your main database (Note:  you will need one 
common person in both databases to aid with the import/merging of people.

3. You can enter all the new people without any sourcing
   A.  Create 1 master source for these people
   B.  Tag all Descendants from the oldest person (sister) that gave you the 
information (Tag all of the new people with Tag 1)
   C.  Use Advanced Sourcing (From Tools) and assign the new source to everyone 
with a Tag 1 and all their data fields.


Any of these options work, but Options 2 and 3 require a little more knowledge 
of importing / merging / Tagging / Sourcing.  If you have less that about 15-20 
people, I would use option 1.  When you more than 20 people, then option 2 or 3 
will be much easier to accomplish the sourcing of everyone’s information.

Good luck.

Leon Chapman
chap...@gmail.com



> On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Dennis Birke  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to cite 
> sources.  So, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to handle 
> citations.  Here is the situation I’m currently grappling with:
>  
> Until recently, my family database did not include information about the 
> descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s sisters.  I recently connected 
> with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with fairly complete 
> information about all of the sister’s descendants – about 40 people when you 
> include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight in getting this treasure trove 
> of information in one fell swoop!)
>  
> Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I’d like to cite the 
> source (i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels like 
> “overkill” to generate a citation to this source for each of four or five 
> fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That’s a lot of repetitive work 
> (even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of duplicate 
> footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I most 
> frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one citation 
> (probably connected with the sister) saying something like:  “Unless 
> otherwise noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her 
> descendants was obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated .”  
>  
> The problem I see with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports, 
> the single citation tied to the sister may not be included in the report and 
> there will be nothing cited for a the many descendants.  
>  
> How would those of you familiar with citation practices handle this situation?
>  
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source

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For what it's worth:  I always cite every entry.  I've learned over the years 
that I prefer it that way.  However, when printing off information for family 
or those interested only in the tree and information, I do NOT include the 
sources unless they specifically as for it (I ask them individually before I 
print).  Most casual people aren't interested in the sources.  If I'm sharing 
with another researcher, etc.  I then include my sources and they are willing 
to check the info.  

BTW there is a button on the print button were you can include all info 
connected to a single entry in one paragraph.  This is on the page were info 
(footnotes) is printed NOT on the end notes.


  From: Dennis Birke <dpbi...@gmail.com>
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:37 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing a Source
   
I’ve been 
using Legacy for several years, but I’m only beginning to cite sources.  So, 
I’m still trying to figure out the best way to handle citations.  Here is the 
situation I’m currently grappling with:  Until recently, my family database did 
not include information about the descendants of one of my great-grandfather’s 
sisters.  I recently connected with the daughter of the sister and she has 
provided me with fairly complete information about all of the sister’s 
descendants – about 40 people when you include spouses.  (You can imagine my 
delight in getting this treasure trove of information in one fell swoop!)  
Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I’d like to cite the source 
(i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels like 
“overkill” to generate a citation to this source for each of four or five 
fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That’s a lot of repetitive work 
(even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of duplicate 
footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I most 
frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one citation 
(probably connected with the sister) saying something like:  “Unless otherwise 
noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her descendants was 
obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated .”    The problem I see 
with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports, the single citation 
tied to the sister may not be included in the report and there will be nothing 
cited for a the many descendants.    How would those of you familiar with 
citation practices handle this situation?  Thanks for any assistance you can 
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[LegacyUG] Citing a Source

[Dennis Birke]

I've been using Legacy for several years, but I'm only beginning to cite
sources.  So, I'm still trying to figure out the best way to handle
citations.  Here is the situation I'm currently grappling with:

 

Until recently, my family database did not include information about the
descendants of one of my great-grandfather's sisters.  I recently connected
with the daughter of the sister and she has provided me with fairly complete
information about all of the sister's descendants - about 40 people when you
include spouses.  (You can imagine my delight in getting this treasure trove
of information in one fell swoop!)

 

Since this information was fairly hard to come by, I'd like to cite the
source (i.e., personal correspondence from the daughter).  But, it feels
like "overkill" to generate a citation to this source for each of four or
five fields of data for each of about 40 people.  That's a lot of repetitive
work (even when using the clipboard) and that will generate a lot of
duplicate footnotes in a descendants report (which is the type of report I
most frequently generate).  So, I have been considering preparing one
citation (probably connected with the sister) saying something like:
"Unless otherwise noted, all cited information regarding [Sister X} and her
descendants was obtained from [Name of daughter] by letter dated ."  

 

The problem I see with this approach is that for certain kinds of reports,
the single citation tied to the sister may not be included in the report and
there will be nothing cited for a the many descendants.  

 

How would those of you familiar with citation practices handle this
situation?

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a source more than once

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

Hi,

I am new to this board and hope this is the correct place to ask for advice
on the Legacy Family Tree.

In the Deluxe Edition of Legacy 7.4 I am trying to find a way to list all
source citations (created using the SourceWriter method) which do NOT have
'Include this Citation on Reports' checked.

Is there a way to do this? The reason for this is that I would like to
review these records to decide whether I might want to include the source in
future reports. Alternatively, is there a way to find this from one of the
source citation reports?

I did not see this earlier because the question was not posted in plain
text. I found it in the archives by accident.

***

I do not think you can do this in any of the existing Legacy reports.

You could do this in MS Access (or another tool that allows SQL
queries), but it would involve multiple queries (if you want something
easy to read) because of the way Legacy source citations are stored.

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[LegacyUG] Citing a source more than once

[Joshua Crump]

Legacy Users,

I am citing people in my tree and would like to know how to cite the
same source more than once for a person. Example: birth certificate for
name and birth.

Thanks for the help,
Josh




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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing a source more than once

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Josh,

 I ... would like to know how to cite the same source more than once for a 
 person.

The easiest thing to do is use the Source Clipboard.  Set it up, and
then you can apply the same source citation to multiple items of data
across different people.

There's a good explanation in the Help files, if I recall correctly.

Kind Regards,
Wendy



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RE: [LegacyUG] Citing a source more than once

[Jennifer Crockett]

Josh,

When you have cited the first item, such as the name, in the assigned sources 
screen click on the two pages icon on the left to copy the source to the 
clipboard and then highlight the next item and click on the - sign.

Regards,

Jennifer
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing a source more than once

Legacy Users,

I am citing people in my tree and would like to know how to cite the
same source more than once for a person. Example: birth certificate for
name and birth.

Thanks for the help,
Josh





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