Re: [LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 11th ggf?

2019-10-26 Thread Chris Hill 

Hi Gloria

The Relationship Calculator is extremely easy to use, once you are 
used to it. By default, the Left Person will be your default person. If 
you are viewing any other person in the tree then that person will 
become the Right Person. Otherwise, from the Select.  Person buttons 
you can decide who are the pair of people that you want to look at the 
relationship between them.


If there is a common ancestor above both of them, or potentially 
multiple, the display will show the ancestor and its spouse at the top 
along with the relationship between the pair. Below that it will show 
the descent line from the common ancestor. If there are multiple common 
ancestors then they will be listed as the top and you can select them to 
show the descent line from them.
If the Right Person is you ancestor, it will only show the ancestor at 
the top and the direct line on the left, or potentially multiple 
relationships at the top that you can select from.


If there is no common ancestor the display will show Not Related at 
the top, with the path from Left to Right on the left and a description 
of the relationship on the right.


Also note that at the bottom left you can specify how far apart the 
people can be before the relationship is to far away. Personally, I 
normally run with the maximum values of 999 Blood Relationships and 10  
Non-blood Relationships.


From the Print button you can generate a report to show the 
relationship(s and from the Options button you can tag the people in the 
relationship.


In your case, if you have multiple marriages between cousins, and at 
different generations, then you will be getting these cases of ancestors 
being flagged as being nth and n+1th relationships. First you need to 
understand how the people involved in the tree are related, by using the 
report from the Relationship Calculator and building a map of the tree 
to show how the family was built. Secondly, I would be asking the 
question of 'is this correct?'.


Regards

Chris

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From: "Gloria DeSousa" 
To: "Legacy User Group" 
Sent: 26/10/2019 14:16:05
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 
11th ggf?



Thank you Cathy. I don't know how I didn't see that before.

Chris, is it possible that the 10th ggf that I mentioned can also be my 
12th ggf? If I am understanding the Relationship Calculator correctly, 
then he is my 10th on my mother's side, and my 12th on my father's 
side. Does it help to know that this 10th, also 12th, gave birth to two 
of my great grandparents?


I have difficulty understanding the Relationship Calculator in general. 
When I set it for the son who is my 11th ggf, it then shows the son of 
this 11th ggf, as my 9th great-great uncle and also as my 11th 
great-great uncle. Is that possible?


If my tree is correct, then my parents were distant cousins many times 
over according to the Relationship Calculator. Not surprising actually. 
I have first cousins who married first cousins. My grandparents were 
3rd cousins, and two sisters married two brothers often. Most of my 
parent's village are related. I'm sharing this in case it's of any use 
to know.


I agree CE. I'd rather have quality than quantity. My wish would be 
that bugs are fixed before adding more to fix. I can't see the choices 
that you suggest. Probably right in front of my eyes again :-)


Thank you for all your help,
Gloria

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 12:06 AM Cathy Pinner  
wrote:

Gloria

Re Direct Line in bold.
You set the Direct line from the Tools Ribbon bar in the Family File
Tools section. It says Set Direct Line.
You can set Direct lines all over the place in your tree to aid
navigation when you click beside the child list.
The one you set last is the one that is bolded when you have that 
option

set in Options > Customise 3.8

Others have given you ways to check out your relationship issue.

Cathy
> Gloria DeSousa <mailto:gdesou...@gmail.com>
> Saturday, 26 October 2019 5:34 AM
> Hi,
> I have in my tree a 10th great grandfather who's son is my 11th 
great
> grandfather. Is this possible? Or is it an error in my tree that I 
can

> not find? I set relationships several times.
>
> In addition to this problem, I tried to make my direct line bold 
like

> it used to be by clicking on the "Indicate direct line children in
> list (bold)" in 3.8 in Customize. I get a box that says "'Set Direct
> Line' Option from the Tools tab of the Ribbon to enable the bolding 
of

> names". I do not see the option "Set Direct Line", at least not in
> those words, but even the choices that come close, do not give me 
the

> option to bold. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Gloria
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 11th ggf?

2019-10-26 Thread Gloria DeSousa 
Thank you Cathy. I don't know how I didn't see that before.

Chris, is it possible that the 10th ggf that I mentioned can also be my
12th ggf? If I am understanding the Relationship Calculator correctly, then
he is my 10th on my mother's side, and my 12th on my father's side. Does it
help to know that this 10th, also 12th, gave birth to two of my great
grandparents?

I have difficulty understanding the Relationship Calculator in general.
When I set it for the son who is my 11th ggf, it then shows the son of this
11th ggf, as my 9th great-great uncle and also as my 11th great-great
uncle. Is that possible?

If my tree is correct, then my parents were distant cousins many times over
according to the Relationship Calculator. Not surprising actually. I have
first cousins who married first cousins. My grandparents were 3rd cousins,
and two sisters married two brothers often. Most of my parent's village are
related. I'm sharing this in case it's of any use to know.

I agree CE. I'd rather have quality than quantity. My wish would be that
bugs are fixed before adding more to fix. I can't see the choices that you
suggest. Probably right in front of my eyes again :-)

Thank you for all your help,
Gloria

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 12:06 AM Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Gloria
>
> Re Direct Line in bold.
> You set the Direct line from the Tools Ribbon bar in the Family File
> Tools section. It says Set Direct Line.
> You can set Direct lines all over the place in your tree to aid
> navigation when you click beside the child list.
> The one you set last is the one that is bolded when you have that option
> set in Options > Customise 3.8
>
> Others have given you ways to check out your relationship issue.
>
> Cathy
> > Gloria DeSousa 
> > Saturday, 26 October 2019 5:34 AM
> > Hi,
> > I have in my tree a 10th great grandfather who's son is my 11th great
> > grandfather. Is this possible? Or is it an error in my tree that I can
> > not find? I set relationships several times.
> >
> > In addition to this problem, I tried to make my direct line bold like
> > it used to be by clicking on the "Indicate direct line children in
> > list (bold)" in 3.8 in Customize. I get a box that says "'Set Direct
> > Line' Option from the Tools tab of the Ribbon to enable the bolding of
> > names". I do not see the option "Set Direct Line", at least not in
> > those words, but even the choices that come close, do not give me the
> > option to bold. What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gloria
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 11th ggf?

2019-10-25 Thread Cathy Pinner 

Gloria

Re Direct Line in bold.
You set the Direct line from the Tools Ribbon bar in the Family File 
Tools section. It says Set Direct Line.
You can set Direct lines all over the place in your tree to aid 
navigation when you click beside the child list.
The one you set last is the one that is bolded when you have that option 
set in Options > Customise 3.8


Others have given you ways to check out your relationship issue.

Cathy

Gloria DeSousa 
Saturday, 26 October 2019 5:34 AM
Hi,
I have in my tree a 10th great grandfather who's son is my 11th great 
grandfather. Is this possible? Or is it an error in my tree that I can 
not find? I set relationships several times.


In addition to this problem, I tried to make my direct line bold like 
it used to be by clicking on the "Indicate direct line children in 
list (bold)" in 3.8 in Customize. I get a box that says "'Set Direct 
Line' Option from the Tools tab of the Ribbon to enable the bolding of 
names". I do not see the option "Set Direct Line", at least not in 
those words, but even the choices that come close, do not give me the 
option to bold. What am I doing wrong?


Thanks,
Gloria





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Re: [LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 11th ggf?

2019-10-25 Thread Chris Hill 
If you go to Tools / Relationships and put you as one side and your 10th
GGF as the other it will show you the path route between you. If there are
multiple paths it should show you all of them. Then you can print out the
structure for them so that you can check through them.

Did the same for your 11th GGF and compare them.

And, technically, it is possible if the line from your 10th GGF has split
and then joined in a later generation, and one of them managed to generate
2 more generations. Rather unlikely, but I have marriages in my line which
are across different generations.

Also, for 10 generations you are probably back into the 16th or 17th
century so be aware that records might be wrong or missing.

Regards

Chris

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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019, 22:36 Gloria DeSousa,  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have in my tree a 10th great grandfather who's son is my 11th great
> grandfather. Is this possible? Or is it an error in my tree that I can not
> find? I set relationships several times.
>
> In addition to this problem, I tried to make my direct line bold like it
> used to be by clicking on the "Indicate direct line children in list
> (bold)" in 3.8 in Customize. I get a box that says "'Set Direct Line'
> Option from the Tools tab of the Ribbon to enable the bolding of names". I
> do not see the option "Set Direct Line", at least not in those words, but
> even the choices that come close, do not give me the option to bold. What
> am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Gloria
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Re: [LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 11th ggf?

2019-10-25 Thread CE WOOD 
You can choose between

Show the closest relationship, which would display for example, 3rd Great-Grand 
Uncle before it would show 4th Great-Grandfather,

or

Show the closest direct-line relationship (if any), which would show 4th 
Great-Grandfather before 3rd Great-Grand Uncle.


Someone familiar with version 9 can tell you where to set that. The first and 
many subsequent updates to version 9 had so many bugs that I couldn't it , so I 
had to revert to version 7.5. I have had neither the time nor need to try out 
all the new bells and whistles that the MyHeritage versions contain.


​CE


From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Gloria DeSousa 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 2:34 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 11th ggf?

Hi,
I have in my tree a 10th great grandfather who's son is my 11th great 
grandfather. Is this possible? Or is it an error in my tree that I can not 
find? I set relationships several times.

In addition to this problem, I tried to make my direct line bold like it used 
to be by clicking on the "Indicate direct line children in list (bold)" in 3.8 
in Customize. I get a box that says "'Set Direct Line' Option from the Tools 
tab of the Ribbon to enable the bolding of names". I do not see the option "Set 
Direct Line", at least not in those words, but even the choices that come 
close, do not give me the option to bold. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Gloria
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[LegacyUG] Could my 10th great grandfather give birth to my 11th ggf?

2019-10-25 Thread Gloria DeSousa 
Hi,
I have in my tree a 10th great grandfather who's son is my 11th great
grandfather. Is this possible? Or is it an error in my tree that I can not
find? I set relationships several times.

In addition to this problem, I tried to make my direct line bold like it
used to be by clicking on the "Indicate direct line children in list
(bold)" in 3.8 in Customize. I get a box that says "'Set Direct Line'
Option from the Tools tab of the Ribbon to enable the bolding of names". I
do not see the option "Set Direct Line", at least not in those words, but
even the choices that come close, do not give me the option to bold. What
am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Gloria
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