Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-19 Thread Charley Foell via LegacyUserGroup 
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Thank you Mike and Brian!!

> On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Michael Feldman <mfeld...@gwu.edu> wrote:
> 
> That's it. You can select to move a single box, an entire generation, or a 
> line of boxes. I suggest playing around with the single-box option to see how 
> a box's attached lines behave when the box is moved.
> 
> Mike Feldman
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> 
>> On June 18, 2017 5:05:21 AM Brian Kelly <exma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not have charting running but from memory there is a column on the
>> left with choices on how moves will affect the chart. One of those is
>> the option to move only the person not their line. Look for an option
>> with only one box highlighted.
>> 
>> Brian Kelly
>> 
>> On 18-Jun-17 12:41 AM, Charley Foell via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting
>> From: Charley Foell <sard...@ymail.com>
>> Date: 18-Jun-17 12:40 AM
>> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
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>> Thanks for all your insight! The work around will the do the trick.
>> I will need to move the spouses apart a bit to make room for "div". What
>> is the method to do that without moving their whole line?
>> 
>> Thanks!!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-18 Thread Michael Feldman 
That's it. You can select to move a single box, an entire generation, or a 
line of boxes. I suggest playing around with the single-box option to see 
how a box's attached lines behave when the box is moved.


Mike Feldman


On June 18, 2017 5:05:21 AM Brian Kelly <exma...@gmail.com> wrote:


I do not have charting running but from memory there is a column on the
left with choices on how moves will affect the chart. One of those is
the option to move only the person not their line. Look for an option
with only one box highlighted.

Brian Kelly

On 18-Jun-17 12:41 AM, Charley Foell via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting
From: Charley Foell <sard...@ymail.com>
Date: 18-Jun-17 12:40 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Thanks for all your insight! The work around will the do the trick.
I will need to move the spouses apart a bit to make room for "div". What
is the method to do that without moving their whole line?

Thanks!!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-18 Thread Brian Kelly 
I do not have charting running but from memory there is a column on the 
left with choices on how moves will affect the chart. One of those is 
the option to move only the person not their line. Look for an option 
with only one box highlighted.


Brian Kelly

On 18-Jun-17 12:41 AM, Charley Foell via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting
From: Charley Foell <sard...@ymail.com>
Date: 18-Jun-17 12:40 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Thanks for all your insight! The work around will the do the trick.
I will need to move the spouses apart a bit to make room for "div". What 
is the method to do that without moving their whole line?


Thanks!!


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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-18 Thread Brian Kelly 
Do not have charting running but from memory there is a column on the 
left with choices on how moves will affect the chart. One of those is 
the option to move only the person not their line. Look for an option 
with only one box highlighted.


Brian Kelly

On 18-Jun-17 12:41 AM, Charley Foell via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-17 Thread Charley Foell via LegacyUserGroup 
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Thanks for all your insight! The work around will the do the trick. 
I will need to move the spouses apart a bit to make room for "div". What is the 
method to do that without moving their whole line? 

Thanks!! 

> On Jun 16, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Michael Feldman  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've just completed a set of descendant charts for a reunion of my mother's 
> extended family. The event -- the first such in 50 years -- took place last 
> Saturday in Philadelphia with splendid turnout, and everyone had a wonderful 
> time. 
> 
> Many in attendance were wowed by the 20-page booklet showing the 5 
> generations starting with my grandparents who arrived in the US in 1907. My 
> mom was the youngest of their eight children. Using v8, I was able to control 
> the chart content on each page by adjusting its starting point and number of 
> generations displayed. This allowed me to produce a very attractive set of 
> sub-family charts (one or a few pages for each of the eight). A number of my 
> relatives made clear that this would be a tremendous resource for them and 
> their kids.
> 
> I handled the divorce issue by inserting a little text box with "div" just 
> above the double line that connects spouses. (See the "Insert" tab -- 3rd 
> item in the chart menu.) Luckily there weren't too many of these. I also 
> confirmed with divorced family members whether or not they wanted the "div" 
> to be published in the chart. Some did, some didn't. I made a policy decision 
> to prioritize family harmony over genealogical precision -- this was 
> definitely the right choice for the circumstances.
> 
> I found the ability to hand-edit a chart -- move boxes to better fit them on 
> a page, add text boxes, etc. -- to be a useful feature. I do wish the chart 
> were better integrated with the database; as it is, even a slight change to a 
> box's content (correct a typo or whatever) requires the chart to be 
> regenerated from scratch, so any hand-editing is lost and must be re-done. 
> I'd like to see a Legacy chart work more like one in a spreadsheet -- the 
> chart is dynamically linked to its content so a change in the database is 
> automagically reflected in the chart.
> 
> I'd also like to be able to specify that a date be displayed as year-only. In 
> this era of privacy concerns, one's birth date has become an important 
> identifier (especially in health care). I'd like to be able to flip a switch 
> to suppress month and day, so as to show the approximate age of a relative 
> without exposing their full birth date. Perhaps I'm missing something, but 
> with v8, I found no way to do this except to physically delete month and day 
> from their record in the database.
> 
> I'll put these in as suggestions. All in all, I was satisfied with Legacy as 
> a vehicle for this. For now, my project is complete; we'll see what the 
> future brings.
> 
> Michael Feldman
> Portland, Oregon
> 
> Linda wrote:
>> Done --- suggestion entered! 
>> 
>>  
>> Linda YorkIn God I trust !   
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, June 16, 2017 9:05 AM, Sherry  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Charley,
>> 
>> Showing the marriage status on charts, both in Legacy Charting and on the 
>> charts in Legacy, is something that's been requested for years. Sadly, this 
>> request has been ignored.
>> 
>> Please go to the Legacy Home tab and in the Support section, click on the 
>> link "Make a Suggestion".
>> 
>> Let's keep bugging them for this very important piece of data!!! Without it, 
>> it looks like the people in our tree are a bunch of bigamists!!! 
>> 
>> Sherry
>> 
>> 
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>> From: Charley Foell 
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 08:47:21 -0400
>>  
>> Subject: Divorce in Legacy Charting
>> I am doing a family tree for my wife's family reunion. Several have 
>> requested that divorce show on the Legacy chart.
>> I don't see a means to do that.
>> 
>> Thanks, Charley
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-16 Thread szada 
Really useful tips, comments and suggestions - thank you Michael.

June 17, 2017 3:28 AM, "Michael Feldman"  wrote:
Hi all,

I've just completed a set of descendant charts for a reunion of my mother's 
extended family. The event -- the first such in 50 years -- took place last 
Saturday in Philadelphia with splendid turnout, and everyone had a wonderful 
time.

Many in attendance were wowed by the 20-page booklet showing the 5 generations 
starting with my grandparents who arrived in the US in 1907. My mom was the 
youngest of their eight children. Using v8, I was able to control the chart 
content on each page by adjusting its starting point and number of generations 
displayed. This allowed me to produce a very attractive set of sub-family 
charts (one or a few pages for each of the eight). A number of my relatives 
made clear that this would be a tremendous resource for them and their kids.

I handled the divorce issue by inserting a little text box with "div" just 
above the double line that connects spouses. (See the "Insert" tab -- 3rd item 
in the chart menu.) Luckily there weren't too many of these. I also confirmed 
with divorced family members whether or not they wanted the "div" to be 
published in the chart. Some did, some didn't. I made a policy decision to 
prioritize family harmony over genealogical precision -- this was definitely 
the right choice for the circumstances.

I found the ability to hand-edit a chart -- move boxes to better fit them on a 
page, add text boxes, etc. -- to be a useful feature. I do wish the chart were 
better integrated with the database; as it is, even a slight change to a box's 
content (correct a typo or whatever) requires the chart to be regenerated from 
scratch, so any hand-editing is lost and must be re-done. I'd like to see a 
Legacy chart work more like one in a spreadsheet -- the chart is dynamically 
linked to its content so a change in the database is automagically reflected in 
the chart.

I'd also like to be able to specify that a date be displayed as year-only. In 
this era of privacy concerns, one's birth date has become an important 
identifier (especially in health care). I'd like to be able to flip a switch to 
suppress month and day, so as to show the approximate age of a relative without 
exposing their full birth date. Perhaps I'm missing something, but with v8, I 
found no way to do this except to physically delete month and day from their 
record in the database.

I'll put these in as suggestions. All in all, I was satisfied with Legacy as a 
vehicle for this. For now, my project is complete; we'll see what the future 
brings.

Michael Feldman
Portland, Oregon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-16 Thread Michael Feldman 

  
  
Hi all,

I've just completed a set of descendant charts for a reunion of my
mother's extended family. The event -- the first such in 50 years --
took place last Saturday in Philadelphia with splendid turnout, and
everyone had a wonderful time. 

Many in attendance were wowed by the 20-page booklet showing the 5
generations starting with my grandparents who arrived in the US in
1907. My mom was the youngest of their eight children. Using v8, I
was able to control the chart content on each page by adjusting its
starting point and number of generations displayed. This allowed me
to produce a very attractive set of sub-family charts (one or a few
pages for each of the eight). A number of my relatives made clear
that this would be a tremendous resource for them and their kids.

I handled the divorce issue by inserting a little text box with
"div" just above the double line that connects spouses. (See the
"Insert" tab -- 3rd item in the chart menu.) Luckily there weren't
too many of these. I also confirmed with divorced family members
whether or not they wanted the "div" to be published in the chart.
Some did, some didn't. I made a policy decision to prioritize family
harmony over genealogical precision -- this was definitely the right
choice for the circumstances.

I found the ability to hand-edit a chart -- move boxes to better fit
them on a page, add text boxes, etc. -- to be a useful feature. I do
wish the chart were better integrated with the database; as it is,
even a slight change to a box's content (correct a typo or whatever)
requires the chart to be regenerated from scratch, so any
hand-editing is lost and must be re-done. I'd like to see a Legacy
chart work more like one in a spreadsheet -- the chart is
dynamically linked to its content so a change in the database is
automagically reflected in the chart.

I'd also like to be able to specify that a date be displayed as
year-only. In this era of privacy concerns, one's birth date has
become an important identifier (especially in health care). I'd like
to be able to flip a switch to suppress month and day, so as to show
the approximate age of a relative without exposing their full birth
date. Perhaps I'm missing something, but with v8, I found no way to
do this except to physically delete month and day from their record
in the database.

I'll put these in as suggestions. All in all, I was satisfied with
Legacy as a vehicle for this. For now, my project is complete; we'll
see what the future brings.

Michael Feldman
Portland, Oregon

Linda wrote:


  
Done ---
suggestion entered! 

  
 
Linda
  York    In God I trust !   

  


  

   On Friday,
  June 16, 2017 9:05 AM, Sherry
   wrote:

  
  
  

  

  Charley,

Showing the marriage status on charts, both in
Legacy Charting and on the charts in Legacy, is
something that's been requested for years.
Sadly, this request has been ignored.

  
  Please
go to the Legacy Home tab and in the Support
section, click on the link "Make a Suggestion".

  
  Let's
keep bugging them for this very important piece
of data!!! Without it, it looks like the people
in our tree are a bunch of bigamists!!!


  
  Sherry
  
  

  
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Subject: Divorce
  in Legacy Charting
  I am doing a family tree for my wife's
  family reunion. Several have requested
  that divorce show on the Legacy chart.

Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-16 Thread Linda 
Done --- suggestion entered! 
 Linda York    In God I trust !    

On Friday, June 16, 2017 9:05 AM, Sherry  wrote:
 

 Charley,

Showing the marriage status on charts, both in Legacy Charting and on the 
charts in Legacy, is something that's been requested for years. Sadly, this 
request has been ignored.

Please go to the Legacy Home tab and in the Support section, click on the link 
"Make a Suggestion".

Let's keep bugging them for this very important piece of data!!! Without it, it 
looks like the people in our tree are a bunch of bigamists!!! 

Sherry



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To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 08:47:21 -0400

 
Subject: Divorce in Legacy Charting
I am doing a family tree for my wife's family reunion. Several have requested 
that divorce show on the Legacy chart.
I don't see a means to do that.

Thanks, Charley



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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-16 Thread Sherry 
Charley,

Showing the marriage status on charts, both in Legacy Charting and on the
charts in Legacy, is something that's been requested for years. Sadly, this
request has been ignored.

Please go to the Legacy Home tab and in the Support section, click on the
link "Make a Suggestion".

Let's keep bugging them for this very important piece of data!!! Without
it, it looks like the people in our tree are a bunch of bigamists!!! 

Sherry


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> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 08:47:21 -0400
>


> Subject: Divorce in Legacy Charting
> I am doing a family tree for my wife's family reunion. Several have
> requested that divorce show on the Legacy chart.
> I don't see a means to do that.
>
> Thanks, Charley
>
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[LegacyUG] Divorce in Legacy Charting

2017-06-16 Thread Charley Foell via LegacyUserGroup 
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that divorce show on the Legacy chart. 
I don't see a means to do that. 

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