Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-12 Thread Jenny M Benson
Rick Merrill wrote
I am rather new to Legacy so I have a question about Event
Descriptions.  In the training video by Legacy, Geoff explains how to
use Events, but in the two examples he enters the Event Definition and
leaves the Description blank.  And the help file gives no real clue or
example of what kind of information you would put in that field.  Could
ya'll give me some examples of what you put in there?  Like for a
Census event it would seem redundent to but census, or the place or
date beacuse they are listed in other fields. So what would you put there?

I tend to take things very literally, so what I put in Event Description
is usually exactly that, a description of the Event which took place.
Don't forget that Events might also be Facts, so then I'd enter the
actual fact.

You mention Census, so here is an example from my file of an Event
Description for a Census:  John Nosworthy; head of household; married;
aged 60; born in Llandulas, Denbighshire; Wine  Spirit Merchant.  In
the case of a Census, in the Notes I list the other members of the
household.

One other example of an Event Description, this one for a Witness event:
the Marriage of her sister Eliza Courtney Russ to Charles Malcolm
Magill.  The full sentence would read Witness:  On 05 October 1880 he
was a witness to the marriage of his sister Eliza Courtney Russ to
Charles Malcolm Magill at Holy Trinity Church, Clapham, Surrey,
England.

For a fact-type Event such as Occupation, the Description would be the
person's Trade or Profession.  For Physical Description it would be
something like 5'9 tall, with a very fresh complexion, brown hair and
grey eyes.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-12 Thread Virginia Dunham
There is one other option you can consider: do away with the Description
field...you can edit any event by clicking on it from the event list. You
will then see the various fields available and decide which you want to
include for any event category...

Try some different ways...run a report or two and see which one SUITS your
fancy.

Virginia





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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-12 Thread John Roose
Diane -

I tend (because I haven't been consistent and haven't gone back - yet) to
use Property as the event. I do this because it may not be a residence
(often in the case of some ancestors). For description I enter info (acres,
price, property name, etc) that is easy to identify when it is sold; or if
the first instance is a sale of the property, then when I find it was
purchased.

Again, just the way I do it. This is one reason I'm a strong supporter of
Legacy - I have a strong distaste for the cookie cutter approach!

Regards, John
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Diane Murach dmur...@starstream.netwrote:

  Liked John's idea for events, but interested in what John might do with a
 grantee deed.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread Cathy-0

Well, here's what I use for a Census event and I don't see placing the
census info in the Description field as being redundant. Instead, I think it
clarifies things.

 Event:  Census
 Description:  1900 Federal
 Date:  1 June 1900
 Place:Hoboken, Hudson County, NJ

The first sentence would then read as follows:  He appeared on the 1900
Federal census in 1 Jun 1900 in Hoboken, Hudson County, NJ.

Cathy-0


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From: Rick Merrill [mailto:1eagle...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Event Description

I am rather new to Legacy so I have a question about Event Descriptions.  In
the training video by Legacy, Geoff explains how to use Events, but in the
two examples he enters the Event Definition and leaves the Description
blank.  And the help file gives no real clue or example of what kind of
information you would put in that field.  Could ya'll give me some examples
of what you put in there?  Like for a Census event it would seem redundent
to but census, or the place or date beacuse they are listed in other fields.
So what would you put there?

Rick Merrill




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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread circe
Cathy-0, one way of looking at things is by asking yourself What did we
do for censuses before computers? or If I print a book of descendants
for old Aunt Ida who doesn't have a computer, what would she want to see?

If I wanted to go to a lot of trouble, I could list Events like Religion
and enter the person's religion from each census, noting the year. Same
for Occupation, Residence, Marital Status, and any other categories you
can think of.

Too much like work. Let old Aunt Ida read for herself. I simply type out
or Control-C when I can, everything the census shows, eg.

1891 Census of Canada
Name:   Joshua Adams
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age:57
Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion:   Church of England
French Canadian:No
Father's Birth Place:   Ontario
Mother's Birth Place:   England
Province:   Ontario
District Number:127
District:   Wellington South
Subdistrict:Guelph City
Archive Roll #: T-6377
Household Members:
NameAge
Joshua Adams57
Maria Adams 48
Harriet Adams   27
Annie Adams 23
Edith Adams 15
Helen Adams 13
Source Citation: 1891 Census Place: Guelph City, Wellington South,
Ontario. Roll: T-6377, Family No: 141.

I copy the image and attach it to the Event so it's there to check when
i want, especially if something in the transcription seems out of
kilter. Then when printing a book, Aunt Ida sees everything I do,
without having to print each image too.

But, as it's been said many times here, everyone has their own way of
doing things, so whatever works for you..  One caution though -
think about it from every aspect - who is going to see your work, will
they have a computer, will they be able to see the images, etc. It's a
lot more work to change everything midstream than to start off doing a
thorough job.

Helen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread GeoSci
I put whatever the census gives as information in the description.
One entry for 1900 looks like this:

The household headed by Alfred C Fry, age 30, a brakeman on the
RailRoad and his wife of 10 years Minnie, age 30 with children Jennie,
age 10; Alfred F, age 9; Charles L, age 5 and Emily E, age 1.

Keith


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On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM,  ci...@treadles.ca wrote:
 Cathy-0, one way of looking at things is by asking yourself What did we
 do for censuses before computers? or If I print a book of descendants
 for old Aunt Ida who doesn't have a computer, what would she want to see?

 If I wanted to go to a lot of trouble, I could list Events like Religion
 and enter the person's religion from each census, noting the year. Same
 for Occupation, Residence, Marital Status, and any other categories you
 can think of.

 Too much like work. Let old Aunt Ida read for herself. I simply type out
 or Control-C when I can, everything the census shows, eg.

 1891 Census of Canada
 Name:           Joshua Adams
 Gender:         Male
 Marital Status: Married
 Age:            57
 Birth Year:     abt 1834
 Birthplace:     Ontario
 Relation to Head of House: Head
 Religion:       Church of England
 French Canadian:        No
 Father's Birth Place:   Ontario
 Mother's Birth Place:   England
 Province:       Ontario
 District Number:        127
 District:       Wellington South
 Subdistrict:    Guelph City
 Archive Roll #: T-6377
 Household Members:
 Name    Age
 Joshua Adams    57
 Maria Adams     48
 Harriet Adams   27
 Annie Adams     23
 Edith Adams     15
 Helen Adams     13
 Source Citation: 1891 Census Place: Guelph City, Wellington South,
 Ontario. Roll: T-6377, Family No: 141.

 I copy the image and attach it to the Event so it's there to check when
 i want, especially if something in the transcription seems out of
 kilter. Then when printing a book, Aunt Ida sees everything I do,
 without having to print each image too.

 But, as it's been said many times here, everyone has their own way of
 doing things, so whatever works for you..  One caution though -
 think about it from every aspect - who is going to see your work, will
 they have a computer, will they be able to see the images, etc. It's a
 lot more work to change everything midstream than to start off doing a
 thorough job.

 Helen



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RE: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread Robert Mann
I'm with you, Helen. I name master sources at the highest level possible, e.g. 
1870 US Federal Census, then I use the source detail fields to differentiate 
subcategories, like state, district, etc. That way the same master source 
captures any number of entries.

-Original Message-
From: ci...@treadles.ca
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

Cathy-0, one way of looking at things is by asking yourself What did we
do for censuses before computers? or If I print a book of descendants
for old Aunt Ida who doesn't have a computer, what would she want to see?

If I wanted to go to a lot of trouble, I could list Events like Religion
and enter the person's religion from each census, noting the year. Same
for Occupation, Residence, Marital Status, and any other categories you
can think of.

Too much like work. Let old Aunt Ida read for herself. I simply type out
or Control-C when I can, everything the census shows, eg.

1891 Census of Canada
Name:   Joshua Adams
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age:57
Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion:   Church of England
French Canadian:No
Father's Birth Place:   Ontario
Mother's Birth Place:   England
Province:   Ontario
District Number:127
District:   Wellington South
Subdistrict:Guelph City
Archive Roll #: T-6377
Household Members:
NameAge
Joshua Adams57
Maria Adams 48
Harriet Adams   27
Annie Adams 23
Edith Adams 15
Helen Adams 13
Source Citation: 1891 Census Place: Guelph City, Wellington South,
Ontario. Roll: T-6377, Family No: 141.

I copy the image and attach it to the Event so it's there to check when
i want, especially if something in the transcription seems out of
kilter. Then when printing a book, Aunt Ida sees everything I do,
without having to print each image too.

But, as it's been said many times here, everyone has their own way of
doing things, so whatever works for you..  One caution though -
think about it from every aspect - who is going to see your work, will
they have a computer, will they be able to see the images, etc. It's a
lot more work to change everything midstream than to start off doing a
thorough job.

Helen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread John Roose
Rick -

I've been using Legacy since before training videos. Some of my old ways
I've changed because of the videos, LUG, the instruction book and the Help
files.

However, I continue to do one thing that works for me: I do not use a
census event. Nor do I use a Tax list event; nor a City Directory
event. I use a Residence event - it's important to me to know who lived
where, when. Thus, I use the description field to enter Census, tax list,
city directory, etc.

Just my way.

Regards, John

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Rick Merrill 1eagle...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 I am rather new to Legacy so I have a question about Event Descriptions.
  In
 the training video by Legacy, Geoff explains how to use Events, but in the
 two examples he enters the Event Definition and leaves the Description
 blank.  And the help file gives no real clue or example of what kind of
 information you would put in that field.  Could ya'll give me some examples
 of what you put in there?  Like for a Census event it would seem redundent
 to but census, or the place or date beacuse they are listed in other
 fields.
 So what would you put there?

 Rick Merrill



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RE: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread Robert Mann
I do it that way, too, John.



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From: John Roose [mailto:jbro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description



Rick -



I've been using Legacy since before training videos. Some of my old ways
I've changed because of the videos, LUG, the instruction book and the Help
files.



However, I continue to do one thing that works for me: I do not use a
census event. Nor do I use a Tax list event; nor a City Directory
event. I use a Residence event - it's important to me to know who lived
where, when. Thus, I use the description field to enter Census, tax list,
city directory, etc.



Just my way.



Regards, John

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Rick Merrill 1eagle...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

I am rather new to Legacy so I have a question about Event Descriptions.  In
the training video by Legacy, Geoff explains how to use Events, but in the
two examples he enters the Event Definition and leaves the Description
blank.  And the help file gives no real clue or example of what kind of
information you would put in that field.  Could ya'll give me some examples
of what you put in there?  Like for a Census event it would seem redundent
to but census, or the place or date beacuse they are listed in other fields.
So what would you put there?

Rick Merrill




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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread Diane Murach
Liked John's idea for events, but interested in what John might do with a 
grantee deed.

Thanks,Diane
  - Original Message -
  From: Robert Mann
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Description


  I do it that way, too, John.




--

  From: John Roose [mailto:jbro...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:37 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description



  Rick -



  I've been using Legacy since before training videos. Some of my old ways 
I've changed because of the videos, LUG, the instruction book and the Help 
files.



  However, I continue to do one thing that works for me: I do not use a 
census event. Nor do I use a Tax list event; nor a City Directory event. 
I use a Residence event - it's important to me to know who lived where, when. 
Thus, I use the description field to enter Census, tax list, city directory, 
etc.



  Just my way.



  Regards, John

  On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Rick Merrill 1eagle...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  I am rather new to Legacy so I have a question about Event Descriptions.  In
  the training video by Legacy, Geoff explains how to use Events, but in the
  two examples he enters the Event Definition and leaves the Description
  blank.  And the help file gives no real clue or example of what kind of
  information you would put in that field.  Could ya'll give me some examples
  of what you put in there?  Like for a Census event it would seem redundent
  to but census, or the place or date beacuse they are listed in other fields.
  So what would you put there?

  Rick Merrill




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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread Rick Merrill
So what would you put in the Event Definition and Description for

alt. Birth

alt. Death

Rick

  - Original Message -
  From: Diane Murach
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description


  Liked John's idea for events, but interested in what John might do with a 
grantee deed.

  Thanks,Diane
- Original Message -
From: Robert Mann
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Description


I do it that way, too, John.






From: John Roose [mailto:jbro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description



Rick -



I've been using Legacy since before training videos. Some of my old ways 
I've changed because of the videos, LUG, the instruction book and the Help 
files.



However, I continue to do one thing that works for me: I do not use a 
census event. Nor do I use a Tax list event; nor a City Directory event. 
I use a Residence event - it's important to me to know who lived where, when. 
Thus, I use the description field to enter Census, tax list, city directory, 
etc.



Just my way.



Regards, John

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Rick Merrill 1eagle...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:

I am rather new to Legacy so I have a question about Event Descriptions.  In
the training video by Legacy, Geoff explains how to use Events, but in the
two examples he enters the Event Definition and leaves the Description
blank.  And the help file gives no real clue or example of what kind of
information you would put in that field.  Could ya'll give me some examples
of what you put in there?  Like for a Census event it would seem redundent
to but census, or the place or date beacuse they are listed in other fields.
So what would you put there?

Rick Merrill




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RE: [LegacyUG] Event Description

2010-01-11 Thread Robert Mann
I would use a Land or Property event, and then include the specific's in
the source detail, with test on the Note tab, or on the Multimedia tab, if
it's a document scan.



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From: Diane Murach [mailto:dmur...@starstream.net]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:18 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description



Liked John's idea for events, but interested in what John might do with a
grantee deed.



Thanks,Diane

- Original Message -

From: Robert Mann mailto:roem...@bellsouth.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Description



I do it that way, too, John.




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From: John Roose [mailto:jbro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description



Rick -



I've been using Legacy since before training videos. Some of my old ways
I've changed because of the videos, LUG, the instruction book and the Help
files.



However, I continue to do one thing that works for me: I do not use a
census event. Nor do I use a Tax list event; nor a City Directory
event. I use a Residence event - it's important to me to know who lived
where, when. Thus, I use the description field to enter Census, tax list,
city directory, etc.



Just my way.



Regards, John

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Rick Merrill 1eagle...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

I am rather new to Legacy so I have a question about Event Descriptions.  In
the training video by Legacy, Geoff explains how to use Events, but in the
two examples he enters the Event Definition and leaves the Description
blank.  And the help file gives no real clue or example of what kind of
information you would put in that field.  Could ya'll give me some examples
of what you put in there?  Like for a Census event it would seem redundent
to but census, or the place or date beacuse they are listed in other fields.
So what would you put there?

Rick Merrill




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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-08 Thread Jenny M Benson
Mike Fry wrote
 I agree that is what should happen, but I tried it with my file and it
 didn't work:  brought up every record.  I know there was at least one
 record with a blank Description because I created it just for this test.

Mine works with build 109. File of 5500 individuals. Above selects 162
of them. What more can I say? :-)

I stand corrected.  It *does* work for me.  My brain just works for me
when I am not tired and give it time to think about things sensibly!
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[LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Wilby
Hi all,

Is there a way of searching for events with blank
descriptions.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-07 Thread Connie Sheets
Mark,

Search
Detailed Search Tab
Look for Whom?  Individual
Where to Look?  Event-Description
How to Look?  Equal to
What to look for?  [Leave it blank]

should do it, I would think.  (I almost always leave the event description 
blank, so for me, this brings up most of my database).

Connie

Mark Wilby wrote:


    
 Is
 there a way of searching for events with blank
 descriptions.

   

 Regards Mark.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-07 Thread Jenny M Benson
Mark Wilby wrote
I'm afraid that brings up every event. Blank or otherwise

I rather think this might be a bug in the programme because I would
expect it to work and indeed the Help topic specifically says:

4.  What To Look For

Type in the information you want to find, or, for some searches like
Tags or Child Statuses, select the item from the drop-down list box. If
you want to search for blank fields, don't enter anything in this field.

(Note the last sentence.)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-07 Thread Margaret Turner
Mark,

Search
Detailed Search Tab
Look for Whom?  Individual
Where to Look?  Event-Description
How to Look?  Wildcard
What to look for?  [Leave it blank]

:)

Margaret

On 07/01/2010, Mark Wilby mark.wil...@virgin.net wrote:
 Hi all,

 Is there a way of searching for events with blank
 descriptions.



 Regards Mark.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-07 Thread Mike Fry
Mark Wilby said the following on 2010/01/07 18:31:

 I'm afraid that brings up every event. Blank or otherwise

 Search
 Detailed Search Tab
 Look for Whom?  Individual
 Where to Look?  Event-Description
 How to Look?  Equal to
 What to look for?  [Leave it blank]

Try again Mark! Don't type exactly what Connie wrote. As she said, leave the
last part of the condition empty: no spaces nothing.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-07 Thread Jenny M Benson
Mike Fry wrote
 I'm afraid that brings up every event. Blank or otherwise

 Search
 Detailed Search Tab
 Look for Whom?  Individual
 Where to Look?  Event-Description
 How to Look?  Equal to
 What to look for?  [Leave it blank]

Try again Mark! Don't type exactly what Connie wrote. As she said,
leave the last part of the condition empty: no spaces nothing.

I agree that is what should happen, but I tried it with my file and it
didn't work:  brought up every record.  I know there was at least one
record with a blank Description because I created it just for this test.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Description search

2010-01-07 Thread Mike Fry
Jenny M Benson said the following on 2010/01/08 00:09:
 Mike Fry wrote
 I'm afraid that brings up every event. Blank or otherwise

 Search
 Detailed Search Tab
 Look for Whom?  Individual
 Where to Look?  Event-Description
 How to Look?  Equal to
 What to look for?  [Leave it blank]

 Try again Mark! Don't type exactly what Connie wrote. As she said,
 leave the last part of the condition empty: no spaces nothing.

 I agree that is what should happen, but I tried it with my file and it
 didn't work:  brought up every record.  I know there was at least one
 record with a blank Description because I created it just for this test.

Mine works with build 109. File of 5500 individuals. Above selects 162 of
them. What more can I say? :-)

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Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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