Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-30 Thread Jenny M Benson 

On 30/06/2018 01:52, johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
I would like to respond to this matter. Before I do, I would like to 
clarify something- the subject line is now “Warning about MyHeritage / 
OFF LIST / Personal Emails”. Does this mean the current thread is off 
list even though in the “To:” field it says “Legacy User Group”? If it 
is off line who could read it? The “From:” field only shows Arnold 
Sprague. I want everybody who received this thread to be able to read my 
response to it. If select “Reply” (instead of “Reply All”) would that 
achieve what I want? To me it looks like the whole LUG has received the 
thread.


I think what happened was that someone wished to respond privately to a 
particular person, following up a message to this lis,  they marked the 
subject line "Off List" for the benefit of the intended recipient but 
then accidentally sent their message to the entire list.


Exactly how you respond to a message, intending your reply to go to the 
whole list or only to the original poster, rather depends on the 
software you are using .  In my case, with Thunderbird, I need to 
"Reply" for a private e-mail or "Reply List" to send to LUG.  In your 
case, "Reply All" will send your message to the group.


It is not sufficient simply to change the subject line when one wishes 
to start a new topic or swerve from the original one.  Most e-mail 
programs will not thread the messages correctly if this is done, so some 
people may not see or read the re-titled message because it is in the 
middle of a thread they are ignoring.  To start a new topic, swerve from 
the original one or to "resurrect" a swerved/re-titled topic (which is 
what you want to do) you should start a NEW thread with the correct 
subject line and either repeat your original message or quote from the 
last on-topic response to it.


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Wrexham, UK

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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-29 Thread johnbernacki1 

Hi Sherry,

I would like to respond to this matter. Before I do, I would like to clarify 
something- the subject line is now “Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / 
Personal Emails”. Does this mean the current thread is off list even though 
in the “To:” field it says “Legacy User Group”? If it is off line who could 
read it? The “From:” field only shows Arnold Sprague. I want everybody who 
received this thread to be able to read my response to it. If select “Reply” 
(instead of “Reply All”) would that achieve what I want? To me it looks like 
the whole LUG has received the thread.


John

-Original Message- 
From: Sherry H

Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 11:36 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal 
Emails


A lot of people are not interested in a particular subject line. If
someone changes the topic without starting a new thread without an
appropriate subject line, it's their loss. People who *may* have been
able to help them are skipping the email because of the subject line.

It is frustrating for those who are interested in the subject, only to
find out that the subject has been hijacked. So from that point on,
you need to realize that the original topic is gone. If you wish to
continue the discussion, start a new thread!

S.


On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Arnold Sprague
 wrote:

John, Cathy, and CE,
I would like to voice my complaint that this message, with the
Subject line, "Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST /
Personal Emails" has been hijacked and changed into something far 
different.

Those of us interested in the original thread have been thwarted.
"...Having difficulty deleting MyHeritage from my computer" was 
not
even close to the existing discussion. The responders should have, at 
least,

changed the subject line to something relevant.
  Arnold Sprague


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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-29 Thread Roberta Montpetit 
Amen Sherry!

On 29 June 2018 at 09:36, Sherry H  wrote:

> A lot of people are not interested in a particular subject line. If
> someone changes the topic without starting a new thread without an
> appropriate subject line, it's their loss. People who *may* have been
> able to help them are skipping the email because of the subject line.
>
> It is frustrating for those who are interested in the subject, only to
> find out that the subject has been hijacked. So from that point on,
> you need to realize that the original topic is gone. If you wish to
> continue the discussion, start a new thread!
>
> S.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Arnold Sprague
>  wrote:
> > John, Cathy, and CE,
> > I would like to voice my complaint that this message, with the
> > Subject line, "Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST /
> > Personal Emails" has been hijacked and changed into something far
> different.
> > Those of us interested in the original thread have been thwarted.
> > "...Having difficulty deleting MyHeritage from my computer" was
> not
> > even close to the existing discussion. The responders should have, at
> least,
> > changed the subject line to something relevant.
> >   Arnold Sprague
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-29 Thread Sherry H 
A lot of people are not interested in a particular subject line. If
someone changes the topic without starting a new thread without an
appropriate subject line, it's their loss. People who *may* have been
able to help them are skipping the email because of the subject line.

It is frustrating for those who are interested in the subject, only to
find out that the subject has been hijacked. So from that point on,
you need to realize that the original topic is gone. If you wish to
continue the discussion, start a new thread!

S.


On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:58 AM, Arnold Sprague
 wrote:
> John, Cathy, and CE,
> I would like to voice my complaint that this message, with the
> Subject line, "Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST /
> Personal Emails" has been hijacked and changed into something far different.
> Those of us interested in the original thread have been thwarted.
> "...Having difficulty deleting MyHeritage from my computer" was not
> even close to the existing discussion. The responders should have, at least,
> changed the subject line to something relevant.
>   Arnold Sprague

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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-29 Thread Arnold Sprague 

John, Cathy, and CE,
I would like to voice my complaint that 
this message, with the Subject line, "Re: 
[LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF 
LIST / Personal Emails" has been hijacked and 
changed into something far different.

Those of us interested in the original thread have been thwarted.
"...Having difficulty deleting 
MyHeritage from my computer" was not even close 
to the existing discussion. The responders should 
have, at least, changed the subject line to something relevant.

  Arnold Sprague




At 10:28 PM 6/26/2018, you wrote:
I am having difficulty deleting MyHeritage from 
my computer. I found its folder on my C drive 
within another folder named “Program Files 
(x86)”. When I right-click then click delete, 
a pop-up message says “The action can’t be 
completed because the folder or a file in it is 
open in another program”. All my other 
programs were however closed. Could the problem 
be that Legacy keeps a connection to MyHeritage 
in order to conduct the background website 
searches on family trees? I cannot think of any 
other program that may be using MyHeritage. It 
was previously pinned to the taskbar but not 
now. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My 
computer uses Windows 7. I have deleted 
MyHeritage on the “All Programs” list but it 
cannot be deleted as noted above. John 
-Original Message- From: Arnold Sprague 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:13 PM To: Legacy 
User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning 
about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails 
Ward,  As we like to say, "It's 
confusing."  Here is part of the 
overhead in your message: --> From: "Ward 
Walker"  To: "Legacy User 
Group"  Date: 
Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:23:11 -0400 X-Mailer: 
Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about 
MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails --> 
Reply-To: Legacy User Group 
 Sender: 
"LegacyUserGroup" 
 
When one replies, one expects, at least I do, 
that the reply will go to the person/e-mail 
address in the FROM line.  However, the 
reply will actually go to 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com, in the REPLY-TO 
line.  Please note: I've added --> 
to make my message easier to 
read.Arnold At 01:23 PM 6/23/2018, 
you wrote: >Carrie, it looks to me like you 
received the e-mail off list. The rest of >us 
did not receive it. That’s why Arnold pd put 
“OFF LISTâ€Â in the >subject line. Did you 
you mean e-mail addresses? I think that the 
sender’s s >address has always 
appeared. > >   Ward > >From: Carrie 
Pillow >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:11 PM >To: 
'Legacy User Group' ; 
aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu >Cc: 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com >Subject: 
[LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF 
LIST / Personal >Emails > > >Arnold > >Ok I 
wasn’t really dissing Norton, but I have 
workerked in IT for over 30 >years , teaching 
accounting software and databases, rebuilding 
systems when >people have lost data dur to 
viruses. > >Norton has it place and it kept 
vigilantly up to date can look after 
the >average home computer, > >but in my 
experience when a virus has got past it, it 
hasn’t the ability >deal with it, and nd a 
much more robust package to deal with it, > >I 
am a little concerned that personal emails are 
appearing on this list >though!!! Please see 
Highlighted below  > >Carrie > >From: Arnold 
Sprague  >Sent: 21 
June 2018 15:40 >To: Carrie Pillow 
 >Subject: Re: 
[LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage / OFF 
LIST > >OFF LIST > >Carrie > In the 
future, when you bad mouth a program, I would 
like for you > to give us your creds and for you 
to support your statement about 
Norton. > I think that we deserve to 
know if you are giving us fake 
news. > Thank 
you, >   Arnold > > > >At 07:44 AM 
6/21/2018, you wrote: >Content-Language: 
en-US >Content-Type: 
multipart/alternative; > >boundary="_000_HE1PR03M 
B284397A2E04A64D677D75046CC760HE1PR03MB2843eurp_" 
 > >It can also be a virus on your own email 
account, using and old email on >your system as 
a back door. > >I would suggest running a good 
anti-virus (Not Norton) in safe mode, > >I would 
also amend you paypal password ­ on a different 
machhine and NEVEER >allow you pc to remember a 
banking or payment passwork > >You may be best 
taking it to be cleaned. > >But this is off 
legacy topic, so ill leave it 
there > >Regards > >Carrie > >From: 
LegacyUserGroup 
 On 
Behalf >Of Cathy Pinner >Sent: 21 June 2018 
08:54 >To: Legacy User Group 
; Jennie 
Matheson > >Subject: Re: 
[LegacyUG] Warning about 
MyHeritage

Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-27 Thread Cathy Pinner 
I only load a skeleton tree (just BDM info) to online trees and I don't 
invite people to join my tree apart from those who have given me 
permission to manage their DNA.  I don't ask to join other sites either.


I don't add photos etc - so my tree is very boring.
That may change when we can sync between Legacy and MyHeritage but maybe 
not.


So if I replace it again, no big deal. I do the same on Ancestry.

Cathy


CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
Wednesday, 27 June 2018 2:17 PM

I agree that Family Tree Builder is far inferior to Legacy. I am 
sure feedback to that effect from many like me made them anxious to 
acquire Legacy.



The problem with uploading new gedcoms and deleting the old ones is 
that any relationships and photos of people in your previous gedcom 
will have to be reconnected. If you have a large list of members, you 
must manually reenter ALL of those!



Also, so far, MyHeritage is unable to calculate relationships beyond 
the first cousins (sometimes second) if you have a large gedcom. Their 
support sometimes is willing to enter those relationships for you, but 
if you delete the old gedcom, you must again prevail upon them to do 
do it all over again. For photos, you will have to reenter them 
yourself. But even if your thirs cousins are not so identified, 
MyHeritage will not include those specially entered relatives in your 
list of people whose birthdays and anniversaries are in the calendar!



Your only option, if you have, say a third cousins, is to choose ALL 
relatives! It will keep you busy responding to your members about who 
those people are! That is, if you have have reconnected them. Many 
will wonder why their photos are not visible. I have not the time nor 
energy to reconnect photos to all the people in my tree each time I 
upload a new gedcom! That is not why I am doing genealogy!



I have had to prune my members because I am more interested in having 
correctly sourced facts and relatives than padding my database with 
dubious connections. I am appalled at the totally false matches that 
MyHeritage presents (internet trees are NOT sources!)



Was Legacy is such dire straits? They could have raised their prices 
and maintained their integrity rather than lose their place as a 
premier program. Such a shame!




CE



*From:* LegacyUserGroup  on 
behalf of Cathy Pinner 

*Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:22 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group; johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / 
Personal Emails

John,
It sounds as if you've at some time installed Family Tree Builder, the 
MyHeritage desktop program that syncs with MyHeritage trees.

If you want to remove it, you need to uninstall the program.
It should be in your Apps list (Settings - Apps in Windows 10) and 
called MyHeritage Family Tree Builder


It's nothing to do with Legacy.
Note that it is set by default to start on Starting your computer so 
you'll need to go to your computer Task Manager (in windows 10 you can 
right click the Taskbar to access) Startup Tab, find it and disable it.


I installed it last week just to take a look and see if it was a 
viable way to upload to MyHeritage. I decided it was probably easier 
to make a new gedcom of the people I wanted to upload and just upload 
a new tree and delete the old one than work out whether I could import 
and merge (wanting to add another branch to my online tree for DNA 
matching as my cousin has given me permission to manage her DNA on MH).


Apologies if I've given you more information than you need. I don't 
know how computer literate you are.


Cathy



Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
Wednesday, 27 June 2018 1:22 PM
John,
It sounds as if you've at some time installed Family Tree Builder, the 
MyHeritage desktop program that syncs with MyHeritage trees.

If you want to remove it, you need to uninstall the program.
It should be in your Apps list (Settings - Apps in Windows 10) and 
called MyHeritage Family Tree Builder


It's nothing to do with Legacy.
Note that it is set by default to start on Starting your computer so 
you'll need to go to your computer Task Manager (in windows 10 you can 
right click the Taskbar to access) Startup Tab, find it and disable it.


I installed it last week just to take a look and see if it was a 
viable way to upload to MyHeritage. I decided it was probably easier 
to make a new gedcom of the people I wanted to upload and just upload 
a new tree and delete the old one than work out whether I could import 
and merge (wanting to add another branch to my online tree for DNA 
matching as my cousin has given me permission to manage her DNA on MH).


Apologies if I've given you more information than you need. I don't 
know how computer literate you are.


Cathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-27 Thread CE WOOD 
I agree that Family Tree Builder is far inferior to Legacy. I am sure feedback 
to that effect from many like me made them anxious to acquire Legacy.


The problem with uploading new gedcoms and deleting the old ones is that any 
relationships and photos of people in your previous gedcom will have to be 
reconnected. If you have a large list of members, you must manually reenter ALL 
of those!


Also, so far, MyHeritage is unable to calculate relationships beyond the first 
cousins (sometimes second) if you have a large gedcom. Their support sometimes 
is willing to enter those relationships for you, but if you delete the old 
gedcom, you must again prevail upon them to do do it all over again. For 
photos, you will have to reenter them yourself. But even if your thirs cousins 
are not so identified, MyHeritage will not include those specially entered 
relatives in your list of people whose birthdays and anniversaries are in the 
calendar!


Your only option, if you have, say a third cousins, is to choose ALL relatives! 
It will keep you busy responding to your members about who those people are! 
That is, if you have have reconnected them. Many will wonder why their photos 
are not visible. I have not the time nor energy to reconnect photos to all the 
people in my tree each time I upload a new gedcom! That is not why I am doing 
genealogy!


I have had to prune my members because I am more interested in having correctly 
sourced facts and relatives than padding my database with dubious connections. 
I am appalled at the totally false matches that MyHeritage presents (internet 
trees are NOT sources!)


Was Legacy is such dire straits? They could have raised their prices and 
maintained their integrity rather than lose their place as a premier program. 
Such a shame!



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:22 PM
To: Legacy User Group; johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal 
Emails

John,
It sounds as if you've at some time installed Family Tree Builder, the 
MyHeritage desktop program that syncs with MyHeritage trees.
If you want to remove it, you need to uninstall the program.
It should be in your Apps list (Settings - Apps in Windows 10) and called 
MyHeritage Family Tree Builder

It's nothing to do with Legacy.
Note that it is set by default to start on Starting your computer so you'll 
need to go to your computer Task Manager (in windows 10 you can right click the 
Taskbar to access) Startup Tab, find it and disable it.

I installed it last week just to take a look and see if it was a viable way to 
upload to MyHeritage. I decided it was probably easier to make a new gedcom of 
the people I wanted to upload and just upload a new tree and delete the old one 
than work out whether I could import and merge (wanting to add another branch 
to my online tree for DNA matching as my cousin has given me permission to 
manage her DNA on MH).

Apologies if I've given you more information than you need. I don't know how 
computer literate you are.

Cathy
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au<mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:28 PM
I am having difficulty deleting MyHeritage from my computer. I found its folder 
on my C drive within another folder named “Program Files (x86)”. When I 
right-click then click delete, a pop-up message says “The action can’t be 
completed because the folder or a file in it is open in another program”. All 
my other programs were however closed. Could the problem be that Legacy keeps a 
connection to MyHeritage in order to conduct the background website searches on 
family trees? I cannot think of any other program that may be using MyHeritage. 
It was previously pinned to the taskbar but not now. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

My computer uses Windows 7. I have deleted MyHeritage on the “All Programs” 
list but it cannot be deleted as noted above.

John

-Original Message- From: Arnold Sprague
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:13 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal 
Emails

Ward,
As we like to say, "It's confusing."
Here is part of the overhead in your message:

--> From: "Ward Walker" <mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com>
To: "Legacy User Group" 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:23:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about
MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails
--> Reply-To: Legacy User Group 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Sender: "LegacyUserGroup" 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>

When one replies, one expects, at least
I do, that the reply will go to the person/e-mail address in the FROM line.

Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-26 Thread Cathy Pinner 

John,
It sounds as if you've at some time installed Family Tree Builder, the 
MyHeritage desktop program that syncs with MyHeritage trees.

If you want to remove it, you need to uninstall the program.
It should be in your Apps list (Settings - Apps in Windows 10) and 
called MyHeritage Family Tree Builder


It's nothing to do with Legacy.
Note that it is set by default to start on Starting your computer so 
you'll need to go to your computer Task Manager (in windows 10 you can 
right click the Taskbar to access) Startup Tab, find it and disable it.


I installed it last week just to take a look and see if it was a viable 
way to upload to MyHeritage. I decided it was probably easier to make a 
new gedcom of the people I wanted to upload and just upload a new tree 
and delete the old one than work out whether I could import and merge 
(wanting to add another branch to my online tree for DNA matching as my 
cousin has given me permission to manage her DNA on MH).


Apologies if I've given you more information than you need. I don't know 
how computer literate you are.


Cathy

johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Wednesday, 27 June 2018 12:28 PM
I am having difficulty deleting MyHeritage from my computer. I found 
its folder on my C drive within another folder named “Program Files 
(x86)”. When I right-click then click delete, a pop-up message says 
“The action can’t be completed because the folder or a file in it is 
open in another program”. All my other programs were however closed. 
Could the problem be that Legacy keeps a connection to MyHeritage in 
order to conduct the background website searches on family trees? I 
cannot think of any other program that may be using MyHeritage. It was 
previously pinned to the taskbar but not now. Any help would be 
greatly appreciated.


My computer uses Windows 7. I have deleted MyHeritage on the “All 
Programs” list but it cannot be deleted as noted above.


John

-Original Message- From: Arnold Sprague
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:13 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / 
Personal Emails


Ward,
As we like to say, "It's confusing."
Here is part of the overhead in your message:

--> From: "Ward Walker" 
To: "Legacy User Group" 
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:23:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about
MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails
--> Reply-To: Legacy User Group 
Sender: "LegacyUserGroup" 

When one replies, one expects, at least
I do, that the reply will go to the person/e-mail address in the FROM 
line.

However, the reply will actually go to
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com, in the REPLY-TO line.
Please note: I've added --> to make my message easier to 
read.

  Arnold








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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-26 Thread johnbernacki1 
I am having difficulty deleting MyHeritage from my computer. I found its 
folder on my C drive within another folder named “Program Files (x86)”. When 
I right-click then click delete, a pop-up message says “The action can’t be 
completed because the folder or a file in it is open in another program”. 
All my other programs were however closed. Could the problem be that Legacy 
keeps a connection to MyHeritage in order to conduct the background website 
searches on family trees? I cannot think of any other program that may be 
using MyHeritage. It was previously pinned to the taskbar but not now. Any 
help would be greatly appreciated.


My computer uses Windows 7. I have deleted MyHeritage on the “All Programs” 
list but it cannot be deleted as noted above.


John

-Original Message- 
From: Arnold Sprague

Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:13 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal 
Emails


Ward,
As we like to say, "It's confusing."
Here is part of the overhead in your message:

--> From: "Ward Walker" 
To: "Legacy User Group" 
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:23:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about
MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails
--> Reply-To: Legacy User Group 
Sender: "LegacyUserGroup" 

When one replies, one expects, at least
I do, that the reply will go to the person/e-mail address in the FROM line.
However, the reply will actually go to
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com, in the REPLY-TO line.
Please note: I've added --> to make my message easier to read.
  Arnold



At 01:23 PM 6/23/2018, you wrote:
Carrie, it looks to me like you received the e-mail off list. The rest of 
us did not receive it. That’s why Arnold put “OFF LIST” in the 
subject line. Did you mean e-mail addresses? I think that the sender’s 
address has always appeared.


  Ward

From: Carrie Pillow
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:11 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' ; aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu
Cc: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal 
Emails



Arnold

Ok I wasn’t really dissing Norton, but I have worked in IT for over 30 
years , teaching accounting software and databases, rebuilding systems when 
people have lost data dur to viruses.


Norton has it place and it kept vigilantly up to date can look after the 
average home computer,


but in my experience when a virus has got past it, it hasn’t the ability 
deal with it, and a much more robust package to deal with it,


I am a little concerned that personal emails are appearing on this list 
though!!! Please see Highlighted below 


Carrie

From: Arnold Sprague 
Sent: 21 June 2018 15:40
To: Carrie Pillow 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST

OFF LIST

Carrie
In the future, when you bad mouth a program, I would like for you 
to give us your creds and for you to support your statement about Norton.

I think that we deserve to know if you are giving us fake news.
Thank you,
  Arnold



At 07:44 AM 6/21/2018, you wrote:
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary="_000_HE1PR03MB284397A2E04A64D677D75046CC760HE1PR03MB2843eurp_"

It can also be a virus on your own email account, using and old email on 
your system as a back door.


I would suggest running a good anti-virus (Not Norton) in safe mode,

I would also amend you paypal password – on a different machhine and NEVER 
allow you pc to remember a banking or payment passwork


You may be best taking it to be cleaned.

But this is off legacy topic, so ill leave it there

Regards

Carrie

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf 
Of Cathy Pinner

Sent: 21 June 2018 08:54
To: Legacy User Group ; Jennie Matheson 


Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage

John,
Contact MyHeritage direct.
There are phone numbers and I think email is
supp...@myheritage.com

Others have had refunds on complaint. MyHeritage tends to renew 
subscription without advance warning.  Their support has improved though 
seems to have some way to go.


On the other hand, as Jennie says, it may not have been MyHeritage.

Cathy

Jennie Matheson wrote:
John
Are you sure the email was definitely from MY Heritage not someone
spoofing their email. Sounds more like the later to me.
Jennie
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, < johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au

mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au%20%0b%3cmailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>> 
wrote:

About an hour ago I received an update notice for MyHeritage
software. I clicked on the update to ensure that my computer was
protected with the latest patches. Very shortly afterward I
received an email confirming a subscription to My Heritage. I did
not want it. I did not see anything asking if I wanted a

Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-25 Thread Arnold Sprague 

Ward,
As we like to say, "It's confusing."
Here is part of the overhead in your message:

--> From: "Ward Walker" 
To: "Legacy User Group" 
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:23:11 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about 
MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

--> Reply-To: Legacy User Group 
Sender: "LegacyUserGroup" 

When one replies, one expects, at least 
I do, that the reply will go to the person/e-mail address in the FROM line.
However, the reply will actually go to 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com, in the REPLY-TO line.

Please note: I've added --> to make my message easier to read.
  Arnold



At 01:23 PM 6/23/2018, you wrote:
Carrie, it looks to me like you received the 
e-mail off list. The rest of us did not receive 
it. That’s why Arnold put “OFF LIST” in 
the subject line. Did you mean e-mail addresses? 
I think that the sender’s address has always appeared.


  Ward

From: Carrie Pillow
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:11 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' ; aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu
Cc: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails


Arnold

Ok I wasn’t really dissing Norton, but I have 
worked in IT for over 30 years , teaching 
accounting software and databases, rebuilding 
systems when people have lost data dur to viruses.


Norton has it place and it kept vigilantly up to 
date can look after the average home computer,


but in my experience when a virus has got past 
it, it hasn’t the ability deal with it, and a 
much more robust package to deal with it,


I am a little concerned that personal emails are 
appearing on this list though!!! Please see Highlighted below 


Carrie

From: Arnold Sprague 
Sent: 21 June 2018 15:40
To: Carrie Pillow 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST

OFF LIST

Carrie
In the future, when you bad mouth a 
program, I would like for you to give us your 
creds and for you to support your statement about Norton.

I think that we deserve to know if you are giving us fake news.
Thank you,
  Arnold



At 07:44 AM 6/21/2018, you wrote:
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary="_000_HE1PR03MB284397A2E04A64D677D75046CC760HE1PR03MB2843eurp_"

It can also be a virus on your own email 
account, using and old email on your system as a back door.


I would suggest running a good anti-virus (Not Norton) in safe mode,

I would also amend you paypal password – on a 
different machhine and NEVER allow you pc to 
remember a banking or payment passwork


You may be best taking it to be cleaned.

But this is off legacy topic, so ill leave it there

Regards

Carrie

From: LegacyUserGroup 
 On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner

Sent: 21 June 2018 08:54
To: Legacy User Group 
; Jennie Matheson 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage

John,
Contact MyHeritage direct.
There are phone numbers and I think email is
supp...@myheritage.com

Others have had refunds on complaint. MyHeritage 
tends to renew subscription without advance 
warning.  Their support has improved though seems to have some way to go.


On the other hand, as Jennie says, it may not have been MyHeritage.

Cathy

Jennie Matheson wrote:
John
Are you sure the email was definitely from MY Heritage not someone
spoofing their email. Sounds more like the later to me.
Jennie
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, < johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au

mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au%20%0b%3cmailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>> 
wrote:

About an hour ago I received an update notice for MyHeritage
software. I clicked on the update to ensure that my computer was
protected with the latest patches. Very shortly afterward I
received an email confirming a subscription to My Heritage. I did
not want it. I did not see anything asking if I wanted a
subscription. It was paid via PayPal even though I had not touched
my PayPal account.
I had not used a MyHeritage subscription for a very long time
because I did not like MyHeritage. Their software was however
still on my computer. I was short of time and am not tech savvy so
I clicked on the software update to protect my computer from
“backdoorâ€Â  cyber attacks. With 
hindsight, it was a bit odd because

I do not recall ever receiving software update notices from
MyHeritage in the past.
I am disgusted with MyHeritage and fear that they will eventually
corrupt Millennia / Legacy. When I have time, I will try to delete
MyHeritage software from my computer.
Be warned!
John

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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-23 Thread Ward Walker 
Carrie, it looks to me like you received the e-mail off list. The rest of us 
did not receive it. That’s why Arnold put “OFF LIST” in the subject line. Did 
you mean e-mail addresses? I think that the sender’s address has always 
appeared.

  Ward

From: Carrie Pillow 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 4:11 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' ; aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu 
Cc: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

 

Arnold

 

Ok I wasn’t really dissing Norton, but I have worked in IT for over 30 years , 
teaching accounting software and databases, rebuilding systems when people have 
lost data dur to viruses. 

 

Norton has it place and it kept vigilantly up to date can look after the 
average home computer, 

 

but in my experience when a virus has got past it, it hasn’t the ability deal 
with it, and a much more robust package to deal with it, 

 

I am a little concerned that personal emails are appearing on this list 
though!!! Please see Highlighted below 

 

Carrie

 

From: Arnold Sprague  
Sent: 21 June 2018 15:40
To: Carrie Pillow 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST

 

OFF LIST

Carrie
In the future, when you bad mouth a program, I would like for you to 
give us your creds and for you to support your statement about Norton.
I think that we deserve to know if you are giving us fake news.
Thank you,
  Arnold



At 07:44 AM 6/21/2018, you wrote:

  Content-Language: en-US
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   
boundary="_000_HE1PR03MB284397A2E04A64D677D75046CC760HE1PR03MB2843eurp_"

  It can also be a virus on your own email account, using and old email on your 
system as a back door.
   
  I would suggest running a good anti-virus (Not Norton) in safe mode, 
   
  I would also amend you paypal password – on a different machhine and NEVER 
allow you pc to remember a banking or payment passwork
   
  You may be best taking it to be cleaned.
   
  But this is off legacy topic, so ill leave it there
   
  Regards
   
  Carrie
   
  From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
  Sent: 21 June 2018 08:54
  To: Legacy User Group ; Jennie Matheson 

  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage
   
  John,
  Contact MyHeritage direct.
  There are phone numbers and I think email is
  supp...@myheritage.com

  Others have had refunds on complaint. MyHeritage tends to renew subscription 
without advance warning.  Their support has improved though seems to have some 
way to go.

  On the other hand, as Jennie says, it may not have been MyHeritage.

  Cathy

  Jennie Matheson wrote:

  John

  Are you sure the email was definitely from MY Heritage not someone 

  spoofing their email. Sounds more like the later to me.

  Jennie

  On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, < johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au 



  
mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au%20%0b%3cmailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>>
 wrote:

  About an hour ago I received an update notice for MyHeritage

  software. I clicked on the update to ensure that my computer was

  protected with the latest patches. Very shortly afterward I

  received an email confirming a subscription to My Heritage. I did

  not want it. I did not see anything asking if I wanted a

  subscription. It was paid via PayPal even though I had not touched

  my PayPal account.

  I had not used a MyHeritage subscription for a very long time

  because I did not like MyHeritage. Their software was however

  still on my computer. I was short of time and am not tech savvy so

  I clicked on the software update to protect my computer from

  “backdoor” cyber attacks. With hindsight, it was a bit odd because

  I do not recall ever receiving software update notices from

  MyHeritage in the past.

  I am disgusted with MyHeritage and fear that they will eventually

  corrupt Millennia / Legacy. When I have time, I will try to delete

  MyHeritage software from my computer.

  Be warned!

  John
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[LegacyUG] FW: Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST / Personal Emails

2018-06-22 Thread Carrie Pillow 

Arnold

Ok I wasn’t really dissing Norton, but I have worked in IT for over 30 years , 
teaching accounting software and databases, rebuilding systems when people have 
lost data dur to viruses.

Norton has it place and it kept vigilantly up to date can look after the 
average home computer,

but in my experience when a virus has got past it, it hasn’t the ability deal 
with it, and a much more robust package to deal with it,

I am a little concerned that personal emails are appearing on this list 
though!!! Please see Highlighted below 

Carrie

From: Arnold Sprague 
mailto:aspra...@gsb.uchicago.edu>>
Sent: 21 June 2018 15:40
To: Carrie Pillow mailto:elkerlo...@outlook.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage / OFF LIST

OFF LIST

Carrie
In the future, when you bad mouth a program, I would like for you to 
give us your creds and for you to support your statement about Norton.
I think that we deserve to know if you are giving us fake news.
Thank you,
  Arnold



At 07:44 AM 6/21/2018, you wrote:
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 
boundary="_000_HE1PR03MB284397A2E04A64D677D75046CC760HE1PR03MB2843eurp_"

It can also be a virus on your own email account, using and old email on your 
system as a back door.

I would suggest running a good anti-virus (Not Norton) in safe mode,

I would also amend you paypal password – on a different machhine and NEVER 
allow you pc to remember a banking or payment passwork

You may be best taking it to be cleaned.

But this is off legacy topic, so ill leave it there

Regards

Carrie

From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: 21 June 2018 08:54
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>; 
Jennie Matheson mailto:jenniem...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Warning about MyHeritage

John,
Contact MyHeritage direct.
There are phone numbers and I think email is
supp...@myheritage.com

Others have had refunds on complaint. MyHeritage tends to renew subscription 
without advance warning.  Their support has improved though seems to have some 
way to go.

On the other hand, as Jennie says, it may not have been MyHeritage.

Cathy

Jennie Matheson wrote:
John
Are you sure the email was definitely from MY Heritage not someone
spoofing their email. Sounds more like the later to me.
Jennie
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, < johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au


>>
 wrote:
About an hour ago I received an update notice for MyHeritage
software. I clicked on the update to ensure that my computer was
protected with the latest patches. Very shortly afterward I
received an email confirming a subscription to My Heritage. I did
not want it. I did not see anything asking if I wanted a
subscription. It was paid via PayPal even though I had not touched
my PayPal account.
I had not used a MyHeritage subscription for a very long time
because I did not like MyHeritage. Their software was however
still on my computer. I was short of time and am not tech savvy so
I clicked on the software update to protect my computer from
“backdoor” cyber attacks. With hindsight, it was a bit odd because
I do not recall ever receiving software update notices from
MyHeritage in the past.
I am disgusted with MyHeritage and fear that they will eventually
corrupt Millennia / Legacy. When I have time, I will try to delete
MyHeritage software from my computer.
Be warned!
John
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