[LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events
Thanks to all for your suggestions and questions on using census data in Legacy. I had not experimented with Firefox or Chrome to see how they handle the copy and paste into Legacy, and the comments on that may be very helpful. One comment that I need to make is that I normally put my census data in events, not in notes or sources. Our original source entries in the first genealogy programs available went in the Notes section, the only place available for them. Many are still there. When the ability to put sources in the Source section became available in newer programs, I put most of the new entries there. I use the option to print sources at the end of books, which means people must look there to find sources. I find that awkward. Once Legacy added the option to put in events that print with the individuals data, and then added the ability to copy the event to the clipboard, I started putting census and other events there. Bill Boswell asked: Do you create the top part for each household member or just the head of household? I edit the census data for the first person I work on in the family, and then copy it to the clipboard and paste it into the next family or household members event. For each person, I usually edit the data applicable to them, which is at least the first line, so it is readable while looking at the list of events for that person. This way, I can tell their age in each census, where they lived, and the state where they were born without opening any event. Sometimes the list of events shows the women losing years as they age, sometimes it indicates the person giving the info did not really know when or where their fellow household member was born, and even what their name was G. Normally the portion of the census data for each person, beginning with the list of people in the household and the source info, will not change after creating the record for the first person I work on in the household. Some Ancestry census records copy and paste differently with IE depending on the census year and even where I start and stop the highlighting before pressing Control-C. Whenever it gets too messy, I paste into Notepad, and then copy and paste that into the Legacy Event. A few times, on some web pages, I have copied a web page and pasted it into my trial version of Word or Open Office, saved it as a plain text (.txt) file, and then opened the plain text file and copied and pasted that into Legacy. That can save the basic format and avoid a lot of editing time with some web pages. If anyone wants to see a jpg copy of how my lists of events look, write to me at jay_inga...@pipeline.com and I can send you a screen save jpg of what I see when looking at the Individuals Information screen in Legacy. Jay Ingalls Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events
Hi Jay, Your method is just great. It gives all the essential information to make an informed decision regarding this family. I will also list the neighbors (Surnames at least) if I recognize any that might be of interest. Sometimes my first best guess was incorrect and this allows for an easy scan to see the proof of the line. In your example I would be keen to know (show) the relationship of the Gott children living with the Ingalls (stepchildren, grandchildren, ?). Louise married George Ingalls at the age of 20; married for 10 years; the children have all been born since their marriage; Louise was not likely married before; these are not likely her children; etc. Of course I don't expect you to elaborate or answer this, as I'm sure you have it covered. I have been doing research for many years and do it my way for my own enjoyment. I have not published it, and I'm not trying to impress anyone with it. Yet I hope someone, sometime will be interested to have a look and carry it on. I do work very closely on the tree with a cousin and exchange complete information and files yet our ways are different as well. I do get family inquiries and am known as the Keeper of the Tree. Great hobby - keep digging. Bob A -Original Message- From: J.M. Jay Ingalls [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 1:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events Below is an example of my copied, pasted, and edited census info from Ancestry.com. I usually check the actual census image and edit the Ancestry.com version to show either both the original Ancestry version and my corrections, often within [] brackets. Part of the time I list the occupation and birth place and relationship for each person in the family in table format. I also try to add alternate names and info to the Ancestry page. When I think it may help me in the future, I also add the list of all the neighbors, using the index and Copy all options on the Ancestry copy of the census page image. I like having the first line as shown, it is visible when viewing the list of events, and lets me see the age and state where born in each census easily. I use the option to copy the event to the clipboard, and paste it into the Legacy record for each person in that census record, changing the data as required for the individual. Then each persons record stands alone. I do not save the census image, hoping it will always be available somewhere if anyone needs it. Jay Ingalls . George F Ingalls, Age 51, Born Jun 1848 in Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace: Maine Mother's Birthplace: Maine Occupation: Farmer, Owns Farm Household Members: Name Age George F Ingalls 51 Louise A Ingalls 30 Harry H Gott 9 Mabel L Gott 7 Ester E Gott 6 Mildred S Gott1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Boarder Sarah S Mccaslin 77 Boarder Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Surry, Hancock, Maine; Roll: 593; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 67; FHL microfilm: 1240593. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events
I really like the condensed formatting. Do you create the top part for each household member or just the head of household? I always save the census image in case it isn't available or if I have to subscribe to get it again. I'm a short-term subscriber to Ancestry because they don't have a lot of records for the areas I'm researching. FamilySearch also doesn't have too many images anymore and we have to get them from Ancestry or elsewhere. I prefer copying and pasting rather than typing so either your template or Bob's will give me ideas. I would just hate to redo all of them because I have thousands of census sources. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: J.M. Jay Ingalls [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 4:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events Below is an example of my copied, pasted, and edited census info from Ancestry.com. I usually check the actual census image and edit the Ancestry.com version to show either both the original Ancestry version and my corrections, often within [] brackets. Part of the time I list the occupation and birth place and relationship for each person in the family in table format. I also try to add alternate names and info to the Ancestry page. When I think it may help me in the future, I also add the list of all the neighbors, using the index and Copy all options on the Ancestry copy of the census page image. I like having the first line as shown, it is visible when viewing the list of events, and lets me see the age and state where born in each census easily. I use the option to copy the event to the clipboard, and paste it into the Legacy record for each person in that census record, changing the data as required for the individual. Then each persons record stands alone. I do not save the census image, hoping it will always be available somewhere if anyone needs it. Jay Ingalls . George F Ingalls, Age 51, Born Jun 1848 in Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace: Maine Mother's Birthplace: Maine Occupation: Farmer, Owns Farm Household Members: Name Age George F Ingalls 51 Louise A Ingalls 30 Harry H Gott 9 Mabel L Gott 7 Ester E Gott 6 Mildred S Gott1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Boarder Sarah S Mccaslin 77 Boarder Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Surry, Hancock, Maine; Roll: 593; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 67; FHL microfilm: 1240593. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events
Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace:Maine Mother's Birthplace:Maine Neighbors: Willins; Carter; Haskele; Carter; Ingalls, Gott; McCaslin; Lenfkin; Trundy; Rankin; Cunnigham; Saunders; Gray Household Members: George F IngallsSurry, Hancock, Maine Jun 1848Maine Head Farmer Louise A IngallsSurry, Hancock, Maine Aug 1869Maine Wife Harry H GottSurry, Hancock, Maine Nov 1890Maine Step Son At School Mabel L GottSurry, Hancock, Maine Aug 1892Maine Step Daughter At School Ester E GottSurry, Hancock, Maine Aug 1893Maine Step Daughter At School Mildred S Gott Surry, Hancock, Maine Jul 1898Maine Step Daughter Alexander Mccaslin Surry, Hancock, Maine Nov 1816Maine Boarder Sarah S MccaslinSurry, Hancock, Maine Apr 1823Maine Boarder NameAge George F Ingalls51 Louise A Ingalls30 Harry H Gott9 Mabel L Gott7 Ester E Gott6 Mildred S Gott 1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Sarah S Mccaslin77 This looks better in Legacy. Copy this into a Research Notes for someone - Save it/reopen it and have a look at it. Hope you find your method. Bob -Original Message- From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 4:22 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events I really like the condensed formatting. Do you create the top part for each household member or just the head of household? I always save the census image in case it isn't available or if I have to subscribe to get it again. I'm a short-term subscriber to Ancestry because they don't have a lot of records for the areas I'm researching. FamilySearch also doesn't have too many images anymore and we have to get them from Ancestry or elsewhere. I prefer copying and pasting rather than typing so either your template or Bob's will give me ideas. I would just hate to redo all of them because I have thousands of census sources. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: J.M. Jay Ingalls [mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 4:06 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Formatting Ancestry.com Census Data for Legacy Events Below is an example of my copied, pasted, and edited census info from Ancestry.com. I usually check the actual census image and edit the Ancestry.com version to show either both the original Ancestry version and my corrections, often within [] brackets. Part of the time I list the occupation and birth place and relationship for each person in the family in table format. I also try to add alternate names and info to the Ancestry page. When I think it may help me in the future, I also add the list of all the neighbors, using the index and Copy all options on the Ancestry copy of the census page image. I like having the first line as shown, it is visible when viewing the list of events, and lets me see the age and state where born in each census easily. I use the option to copy the event to the clipboard, and paste it into the Legacy record for each person in that census record, changing the data as required for the individual. Then each persons record stands alone. I do not save the census image, hoping it will always be available somewhere if anyone needs it. Jay Ingalls . George F Ingalls, Age 51, Born Jun 1848 in Maine Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Louise A Ingalls Marriage Year: 1890 Years Married: 10 Father's Birthplace: Maine Mother's Birthplace: Maine Occupation: Farmer, Owns Farm Household Members: Name Age George F Ingalls 51 Louise A Ingalls 30 Harry H Gott 9 Mabel L Gott 7 Ester E Gott 6 Mildred S Gott1 Alexander Mccaslin 43 Boarder Sarah S Mccaslin 77 Boarder Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Surry, Hancock, Maine; Roll: 593; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 67; FHL microfilm: 1240593. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
