Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-cz] czech republic: data wrongly marked as ODbL compatible was Re: Hromadné importy změna licence

2012-04-04 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
Petr Morávek [Xificurk] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I went through Pavel's changesets and I think I've found all the tainted
 data. Here is what I did:
 
 1) I went through Pavel's changesets (except the big ones already
 identified as ODbL compatible imports).
 2) Counted the number of created or modified nodes that had tags place=*
 or railway=station,halt,tram_stop. This gave me 17 changesets that have
 at least 10 such nodes.
 3) Then I checked them manually and identified the mass imports.
 
 Pavel's tainted changesets incompatible with ODbL+CT:
 720911, 720263, 187327, 189654, 188101, 197352, 593595
 
 Special case of changeset 473203: contains mostly import of forests, but
 also 12 place nodes from wikipedia,etc., only 3 of them (27716,
 27734, 27739) are still in the database. I would suggest we keep
 this changeset and remove only those 3 offending nodes when the database
 comes from read-only mode.
 
 In the process I've found another changeset with import of places from
 wikipedia,geonames,etc. performed by Bilbo. This should be marked for
 removal as well:
 312633

Hello,

I've deleted the incompatible nodes. Now, I wonder what's going to
happen next?

Will Pavel accept ODbL+CT in his profile? Or is it no longer possible?

As far as I know there isn't a list of incompatible changesets yet (only
the other way around - list of compatible changesets of decliners). But
we need it at least because of the Bilbo's changeset 312633. Where
should this be directed?

Once Pavel's account is marked ODbL+CT compatible and the new list with
incompatible changesets (total 8 changesets),
720911, 720263, 187327, 189654, 188101, 197352, 593595, 312633,
is set into place, we no longer need to override Pavel's other bulk
imports listed on [1].

Best regards,
Petr Morávek aka Xificurk

[1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quick_History_Service/Changeset_Lists#Pavel_imports_in_Czech_Republic



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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-cz] czech republic: data wrongly marked as ODbL compatible was Re: Hromadné importy změna licence

2012-04-04 Thread Simon Poole

There is a list of incompatbile changesets here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quick_History_Service/Changeset_Lists#Tainted_Changesets

IMHO the best would be for Pavel to accept, but that naturally depends
on him.

Simon

Am 04.04.2012 11:53, schrieb Petr Morávek [Xificurk]:
 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] wrote:
 Hello,

 I went through Pavel's changesets and I think I've found all the tainted
 data. Here is what I did:

 1) I went through Pavel's changesets (except the big ones already
 identified as ODbL compatible imports).
 2) Counted the number of created or modified nodes that had tags place=*
 or railway=station,halt,tram_stop. This gave me 17 changesets that have
 at least 10 such nodes.
 3) Then I checked them manually and identified the mass imports.

 Pavel's tainted changesets incompatible with ODbL+CT:
 720911, 720263, 187327, 189654, 188101, 197352, 593595

 Special case of changeset 473203: contains mostly import of forests, but
 also 12 place nodes from wikipedia,etc., only 3 of them (27716,
 27734, 27739) are still in the database. I would suggest we keep
 this changeset and remove only those 3 offending nodes when the database
 comes from read-only mode.

 In the process I've found another changeset with import of places from
 wikipedia,geonames,etc. performed by Bilbo. This should be marked for
 removal as well:
 312633
 Hello,

 I've deleted the incompatible nodes. Now, I wonder what's going to
 happen next?

 Will Pavel accept ODbL+CT in his profile? Or is it no longer possible?

 As far as I know there isn't a list of incompatible changesets yet (only
 the other way around - list of compatible changesets of decliners). But
 we need it at least because of the Bilbo's changeset 312633. Where
 should this be directed?

 Once Pavel's account is marked ODbL+CT compatible and the new list with
 incompatible changesets (total 8 changesets),
 720911, 720263, 187327, 189654, 188101, 197352, 593595, 312633,
 is set into place, we no longer need to override Pavel's other bulk
 imports listed on [1].

 Best regards,
 Petr Morávek aka Xificurk

 [1]
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quick_History_Service/Changeset_Lists#Pavel_imports_in_Czech_Republic



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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Creative-Commons 4.0 (first draft)

2012-04-04 Thread Ed Avis
I guess the number 1 requirement for CC4, from an OSM point of view,
is that it be interoperable with the ODbL.  Firstly so that those who
are building applications using OSM data today would be able to keep
doing what they are doing even if OSM started using CC4 in future, and
secondly so that any such switchover would not have to delete any
non-compliant data (such as imports where permission has been granted
for ODbL but not for CC).

This is something that Open Data Commons would have to take part in
too, since Creative Commons cannot create an ODbL-to-CC migration path
on their own.

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Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com


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