[OSM-legal-talk] Review of IndianaMap as potential datasource

2014-04-18 Thread Eric Jiang
Greetings,
I am interested in better data for Indiana, USA, and would like to
have someone else double-check that there are no legal/policy issues
with using GIS data from IndianaMap[1] in OSM. I talked to one of
their employees over the phone, and he said that the data is
completely public, with no usage or attribution requirements or
restrictions, and specifically confirmed that using it in OSM is OK.
Terms on the metadata for what I'm interested in seem to say the
same[2].

Basically, I want to get a confirmation from more experienced OSM
contributors before I explore the feasibility of importing any of this
data. There might be general issues that I'm not aware of yet.

[1] http://www.indianamap.org/resources.php
[2] http://maps.indiana.edu/metadata/Reference/Land_Parcels_County_IDHS.html

Thanks!
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Suite 300W | 748 E. Bates Street | Indianapolis, IN 46202
www.doublemap.com | Office +1(855) 463-6655

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Review of IndianaMap as potential datasource

2014-04-18 Thread Mike Dupont
the wikipedia has a nice otrs system, I supposed you could use it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTRS

so let them sign something that allows the data to be used by wikipedia and
that should cover osm as well.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Eric Jiang e...@doublemap.com wrote:

 Greetings,
 I am interested in better data for Indiana, USA, and would like to
 have someone else double-check that there are no legal/policy issues
 with using GIS data from IndianaMap[1] in OSM. I talked to one of
 their employees over the phone, and he said that the data is
 completely public, with no usage or attribution requirements or
 restrictions, and specifically confirmed that using it in OSM is OK.
 Terms on the metadata for what I'm interested in seem to say the
 same[2].

 Basically, I want to get a confirmation from more experienced OSM
 contributors before I explore the feasibility of importing any of this
 data. There might be general issues that I'm not aware of yet.

 [1] http://www.indianamap.org/resources.php
 [2]
 http://maps.indiana.edu/metadata/Reference/Land_Parcels_County_IDHS.html

 Thanks!
 --
 Eric Jiang, DoubleMap
 Suite 300W | 748 E. Bates Street | Indianapolis, IN 46202
 www.doublemap.com | Office +1(855) 463-6655

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Review of IndianaMap as potential datasource

2014-04-18 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mike Dupont 
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:

 the wikipedia has a nice otrs system, I supposed you could use it
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTRS

 so let them sign something that allows the data to be used by wikipedia
 and that should cover osm as well.


I'm not aware of data donations being made through OTRS. Not impossible to
do, of course, but it would have to be done carefully if it were actually
going to be useful for both Wikidata and OSM (given the licensing
differences).

Lydia, do you know of any cases where contributions have been made through
OTRS to Wikidata?

[I thought OSM already had a procedure for this, but I couldn't find it, so
I thought I'd reply to clarify that our process may or may not be enough.]

Luis



 On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Eric Jiang e...@doublemap.com wrote:

 Greetings,
 I am interested in better data for Indiana, USA, and would like to
 have someone else double-check that there are no legal/policy issues
 with using GIS data from IndianaMap[1] in OSM. I talked to one of
 their employees over the phone, and he said that the data is
 completely public, with no usage or attribution requirements or
 restrictions, and specifically confirmed that using it in OSM is OK.
 Terms on the metadata for what I'm interested in seem to say the
 same[2].

 Basically, I want to get a confirmation from more experienced OSM
 contributors before I explore the feasibility of importing any of this
 data. There might be general issues that I'm not aware of yet.

 [1] http://www.indianamap.org/resources.php
 [2]
 http://maps.indiana.edu/metadata/Reference/Land_Parcels_County_IDHS.html

 Thanks!
 --
 Eric Jiang, DoubleMap
 Suite 300W | 748 E. Bates Street | Indianapolis, IN 46202
 www.doublemap.com | Office +1(855) 463-6655

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Review of IndianaMap as potential datasource

2014-04-18 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Mike  Dupont
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
 the wikipedia has a nice otrs system, I supposed you could use it
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTRS

 so let them sign something that allows the data to be used by wikipedia and
 that should cover osm as well.

Well no, Mike, I don't think so.  What rights a publisher grants to
Wikipedia has nothing to do with what rights a publisher grants to
OpenStreetMap.  Wikipedia has no ownership interest in OpenStreetMap,
nor vice-versa.

Eric, please do take advantage of the imports@ and imports-us@ lists.
You'll need to clear your plan and each step with them as you
investigate, as well as talk-us@.

The verbal permission is a good start.  See if you can get it in
writing.  Others have had email with permission to publish the email,
then add it to the wiki.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports-us
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Best regards and happy mapping,

Richard

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