On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Luis
The LWG has spent considerable time discussing the geocoding issue, so
it is not as if we've ignored the subject.
Didn't mean to imply that work hasn't been done! I've read all the public
threads I can find :) But the wiki doesn't reflect that, and the wiki is
where most outsiders are going to go to try to figure out the question,
since it is most googleable, linked to from many places, etc.
So, yes, I think it might be fair to say that the LWG has punted on the
geocoding issue at least for now, to spend its time on issues which are
more likely to be resolved.
I think it would be helpful if the wiki at least reflected that. If there
were links from there to the relevant mailing list threads, it would (1)
warn people that this is a tough issue and (2) they might find some useful
analysis/background in them.
Normally I'd try to organize some of that myself, but since I'm a lawyer
for an organization that will likely consider some sort of geocoding at
some point in the future I'm extremely reluctant to put words in anyone's
mouth or in anyone's wiki.
Luis
Am 08.05.2014 01:27, schrieb Luis Villa:
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
mailto:m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
We also have a number of issues that are very immature in terms of
constructing a useful guideline. What we have been lacking, with
some notable exceptions, is data users prepared to give a real use
case that they can share in a reasonable level of detail. Being
able to deal with concrete rather than myriad hypothetical cases
makes progress much faster. If you are user or potential user of OSM
data, do share real-world issues here. Or, contact us at
le...@osmfoundation.org mailto:le...@osmfoundation.org. We can
handle commercial-in-confidence provided that the end result is
shareable publicly and applies to all equally within the parameters
of our license.
I would suggest that writing down and working through even basic,
non-detailed use cases would likely help clarify a lot of the
Guidelines. Even if all they do is result in saying it depends,
explaining what it depends on can be helpful to everyone.
For example, to kickstart the geocoding Guideline, it would probably be
great to start with some of the basic examples/use cases from the
mailing list discussion last year:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-June/007553.html
and
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-June/007554.html
Which isn't to say that people shouldn't describe detailed use cases :)
Just that a lot of progress could be made by walking through more basic
ones as well.
Luis
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