Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Imagery CC-BY-NC 4.0 + OSM Specific allowance

2017-04-07 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi Simon, Kathleen, all,

Is there any concern that the specific exemptions for cc-by 4 and some
extent 2/3, which specifically mention the attribution method and URL,
license and version number, will cause an issue should the means of
OSM attribution or the license change (even a version number bump) in
the future?

I fear that as written, any changes to any of the above would make
these exemptions non-valid anymore and data contributed under them
could potentially be candidates for removal.

The generic waiver seems better.

It is not clear to me why there are different versions either if the
generic waiver applies to the same cc-* licenses as the two version
specific references.

Cheers
Blake



On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
> Sorry this took so long, I've added suggested wording here
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Waiver_and_Permission_Templates
>
> Thanks again to Kathleen Lu for drafting this.
>
> Simon
>
>
> Am 23.01.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Simon Poole:
>
> The LWG has 3 US based legal professionals on it, no need for me to
> climb out on a limb :-). I'll ask for an opinion internally and get back
> to you.
>
> Simon
>
>
> Am 23.01.2017 um 23:23 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM:
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
>
> Blake where is the imagery provider in question based?
>
> United States
>
> Cheers
> blake
>
>
> Simon
>
>
> Am 23.01.2017 um 22:01 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM:
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Simon Poole  wrote:
>
> In any case, getting permission to distribute on ODbL terms only would
> seem to be suboptimal and endangers any contributions based on so
> licensed material as any license change, even in name only, would cause
> issues that require going back to the licensor.
>
> Simon, can you give an example of language you think would be best for this?
>
> Something like:
>
> "Specific permission is granted to use this imagery for digitizing
> data into OpenStreetMap and the resulting OpenStreetMap data to be be
> released under the OSM project's license of choice."
>
> Is that what you have in mind?
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
> 
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[OSM-legal-talk] use of OSM data in combination with CC BY-SA data

2017-04-07 Thread Simone Aliprandi
Dear all,
I would like to share in this mailing list use case related use of OSM
data in combination with CC BY-SA data.
I am a consultant for the Global Earthquake Model Foundation,
non-profit international body (based in Italy) which produces open
data and open source software for earthquake risk assessment (read
more: https://www.globalquakemodel.org/gem/).

I hope that this is the correct "place" to post this kind of request.
If not, please excuse me and please suggest any other "place".

The use case is about the Administrative Boundaries in SVIR project.
GEM produces a QGIS plugin which permits the user to construct a model
of Social Vulnerability and Integrated Risk in a GIS environment.  The
user selects one or more countries or sub-national regions and a
series of socio-economic indicators, the tool then downloads
administrative boundary geometries from the GEM’s OpenQuake platform
along with the associated values for the selected indicators. The
indicator values are distributed under the terms of the CC BY-SA v4
license.
Ideally, GEM would like to be able to use OSM administrative boundary
data for the geometry field and distribute the entire file under the
terms of the CC BY-SA v4.  Is this possible?
As a next-best solution we think it should be possible to work with
two separate files: one “geometry” file containing OSM administrative
boundaries and an ID (perhaps an OSM supplied id, perhaps a new ID
assigned by the software) and another containing the indicator values
and a reference to the geometry.
The geometry file would be distributed under the terms of the ODbL,
while the indicator file would be distributed under the terms of the
CC BY-SA license.   Would this approach be acceptable?  If we were to
distribute both files (and associated metadata, README and license
files) in a single ZIP archive, would this be acceptable?

For a more precise description of the structure of GEM data, please
see this document showing tables and maps:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17t3gBwzR9MwEIdJpEdLZQSrYPRRNI0TgVBui7C_VkRU/edit?usp=sharing.

We read the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases (case
4) page but it does not completely answer to our doubts.
We also studied the OSM-WikiVoyage case
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikivoyage)
which is similar to our case but has some substantial differences.
[NOTE: the WikiSherpa link seems to be broken]

Thanks very much for your attention.
Regards,

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