Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France
On what basis do they claim ownership of the routes, exactly? As I understand it, many of these routes link up lots of little trails that had been around for decades. How did copyright get transferred from the people who created the trails to the FFRP? Or do they claim ownership only over new sections? Or only over a particular representation? They established a route that for instance allows to from city A to city B but not with the short way. Instead, it is going left and right to visit points of interest, alpine hutch and so on. They claim that such a work is an original work. For a comparison, I would say it is like a tourist car route. The castle route (or usually wine routes in France ;-) is using existing roads (national, local...) to visit a maximum castles. Along the route, you will find signpost marked castle route. Eric ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France
This point has been long discussed on our local list. What you see on the ground is the trail markers. One problem is that the markers are also copyrighted (the colours and shapes) like a logo. Of course, if you put the McDonalds logo on OSM maps, McDo will be happy for the free ads and maps are not their business. MacDo may not be happy because you put on the same map all fast-food networks. Or because on your smart-phone app Find your MacDo, you allowed user to share (bad) comments. Using brand/logo is alway legally dangerous. If we consider that everything that the use may be dangerous should be removed from OSM, then all brands everywhere in the world must be removed. Indeed, I consider that this the way we are using it that is dangerous i.e. this is the responsibility of the guy doing the extract from OSM and organizing the data that is involved. But it might be different if you put an OS or USGS logo on your OSM maps. I don't see any problem if you put USGS logo on USGS offices/shops. Of course, you will get in trouble if you put a big USGS logo on the cover of your map. Again, this is the way you are using it that is critical. Éric ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk