Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Working Group 2013

2013-01-22 Thread Jeff Meyer
Would this be an appropriate forum to discuss whether or own slippy map
requires our own copyright mark?

The response to this question in a separate thread on this list has been
vague and non-definitive.

Thanks, Jeff

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Michael Collinson  wrote:

> The LWG will hold its first post-license change meeting provisionally
> Tuesday 22nd January at 18:00 GMT/UTC.
>
> I would like to draw your attention to the following:
>
> We'll be discussing our future role and any input on that, preferably to
> this list, is most welcome.  We've started putting together a remit
> document here:
> https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1D3KwSM_**BO7KkcbVADQVVn7eFwkD-**
> RNauMwidhhlVPsI/pub<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D3KwSM_BO7KkcbVADQVVn7eFwkD-RNauMwidhhlVPsI/pub>
>
> We welcome new members and diverse views. If you are interested in opening
> up geospatial data and imagery for anyone to use, please join us.  You can
> contact me at my email address if you want more details or you can join us
> for one meeting to see if you like it.
>
> If you cannot or do not want to join us long term but have a particular
> issue that is important to you and it is in the best interests of OSM, we
> can make it a project and you can join us for one meeting or a few weeks.
> In the UK, example projects might be freeing up postcodes or public right
> of way route definitions.  Do you have important issues in your country?
> Are you an organisation that is finding OSM data difficult to use for legal
> reasons?
>
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?

2013-01-17 Thread Jeff Meyer
from http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright:

"For a browsable electronic map, the credit should appear in the corner of
the map. For example:"

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Tobias Knerr  wrote:

> On 17.01.2013 08:56, Jeff Meyer wrote:
> > If we require others to put (c) OpenStreetMap contributors on their
> > tiles [...]
>
> We don't.
>
> Like ourselves, they can also put it elsewhere, as long as it's
> findable. For example behind a link labelled "Copyright and License", or
> an about box in an app.
>
> At least that was my impression from previous discussions on that topic
> and that's how I do it on my own maps. It's also the only practical
> solution when you have more than one source and limited screen space.
>
> That there is no copyright information on the mobile version of osm.org
> *at all* is undesirable, though - I used to consider this a bug.
>
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?

2013-01-16 Thread Jeff Meyer
Paul -

Are you talking about the link to "Copyright and License" under "Help" in
the left-nav or the statement "The data is free to
download<http://planet.openstreetmap.org/>
 and use <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OpenStreetMap>
under its open
license <http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright>," which is also in the
left-nav?

I would contend that neither of those are a copyright mark.

If we require others to put (c) OpenStreetMap contributors on their tiles,
I believe we are obligated to do the same in order to demonstrate that we
are taking appropriate steps to protect our copyrights.

- Jeff



On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Martin Holmgren  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Maybe you are talking about different versions of the site? I just checked
> with my phone, and on the mobile version I can't find any copyright
> information, as the left menu column displayed in the desktop version is
> hidden on the mobile site.
>
> Kind regards,
> Marty
>
> 17 jan 2013 kl. 05:26 skrev Jeff Meyer :
>
> Where is it? I didn't see any copyright on osm.org.
>
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Paul Norman wrote:
>
>> There is a prominent copyright & license link on the openstreetmap.orgpage 
>> outlining the copyright information in detail.
>> osm.org is a bit of a unique case because all the content on the site is
>> openstreetmap data and the copyright information is content in its own
>> right.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:30 PM
>> *To:* legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject:* [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy
>> map?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi legal types - 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Should we be marking our own map at openstreetmap.org with the same
>> markings we ask others to use?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> My impression is that you're supposed to mark a copyright in any use of
>> the copyrighted material - is that incorrect?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> This is the practice Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and MapQuest use for their
>> maps.
>>
>
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?

2013-01-16 Thread Jeff Meyer
Where is it? I didn't see any copyright on osm.org.

On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Paul Norman wrote:

> There is a prominent copyright & license link on the openstreetmap.orgpage 
> outlining the copyright information in detail.
> osm.org is a bit of a unique case because all the content on the site is
> openstreetmap data and the copyright information is content in its own
> right.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org  'j...@gwhat.org');>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:30 PM
> *To:* legal-talk@openstreetmap.org  'legal-talk@openstreetmap.org');>
> *Subject:* [OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Hi legal types - 
>
> ** **
>
> Should we be marking our own map at openstreetmap.org with the same
> markings we ask others to use?
>
> ** **
>
> My impression is that you're supposed to mark a copyright in any use of
> the copyrighted material - is that incorrect?****
>
> ** **
>
> This is the practice Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and MapQuest use for their
> maps.
>


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[OSM-legal-talk] (c) statement on openstreetmap.org slippy map?

2013-01-16 Thread Jeff Meyer
Hi legal types -

Should we be marking our own map at openstreetmap.org with the same
markings we ask others to use?

My impression is that you're supposed to mark a copyright in any use of the
copyrighted material - is that incorrect?

This is the practice Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and MapQuest use for their
maps.

Thanks,
Jeff


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