Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Exception in Open DataLicense/Community Guidelines for temporary file

2011-07-01 Thread jynus
2011/7/1 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de:
 Most of these concerns could be alleviated by dual-licensing under both ODbL
 and CC-BY-SA.

 I'm not fond of the ODbL and would be happy with a CT + CC-BY-SA
 solution (it could achieve most of the declared aims of CT + ODbL and
 avoid most of the problems), but dual-licensing would of course be even
 more convenient from the perspective of a data user.

Dual licensing has a really big problem for the project:
1) We release the data under CC OR ODbL
2) A third party uses data under only one of the licenses
3) Even if they are both ShareAlike, the transformations made by
third party cannot be returned to OSM, as they are incompatible with
unused license

When Wikipedia changed it license from GFDL to CC, old texts remained
also GFDL, but new ones are only CC, because of this.

--
Jaime

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[OSM-legal-talk] Coloriuris compatibility

2011-02-02 Thread jynus
Hi,

I have just left a meeting with representatives of my local concil
(Zaragoza, a Spanish city with 700.000 inhabitants). They have the
willing to provide transparency and open data to its citizens,
however, I have not been able to make a clear agreement to license
their data under CC-BY-SAODBL. They have their own custom license
which is equivalent in spirit (free usage even commercial,
attribution) and have even more relaxed terms, but I am afraid that it
may not be compatible with current OSM license(s). Upon asked for
explicit permission, they answered that their lawyers had to have a
look at the details of our license. Conversations are still open.

The license is this one [0]. Sorry, it is only in Spanish, but a copy
and paste to Google translate will provide you something more or less
readable.

Another odd thing is that every data set can only be downloaded,
separately, after having signed that you are ok with the license. I do
not know who should be the entity to sign it from our part, in case it
would be useful (the Spanish chapter, the OSMF?). I would not bother
you with the problems with this concrete import I am trying to
negotiate if it weren't because this Coloriouris licenses[1],
although not so popular as CCs, are being used for other potential
data sources both in Spain and Latin America. In this case, for
example, it is vector data (some of it, real time!), of all services
of one of the largest municipalities in Spain.

Any help or advice about license compatibility or how to deal with
this subject will be grateful,

[0] https://www.coloriuris.net/risp-ayto-zaragoza/contenido/104
[1] http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloriuris
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Jynus

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