Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents (was: Best license for future tiles?)

2010-11-23 Thread Ed Avis
Grant Slater openstreet...@... writes:

The relationship between ODbL and DbCL is not very clear and I'm not
convinced that lawyers really understand the distinction between a database
and it's content.

Database definition as per the ODbL (definition modelled on EU
Database Directive 96/9/EC):
“Database” – A collection of material (the Contents) arranged in a
systematic or methodical way and individually accessible by electronic
or other means offered under the terms of this License.

That would apply to anything created from OSM, wouldn't it?
Even a printed map is certainly arranged in a systematic and methodical way.

Anything substantial is governed by the ODbL otherwise DbCL.
See the guideline on substantial here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline

Thanks, this is something concrete.  Less than 100 features - you're in the
clear.  More than that (with some exceptions) - considered substantial and
must be produced under ODbL.

I still don't quite get what the 'contents' are, though, and how some 'contents'
can ever be considered in isolation from the 'database' that holds them.  Even
if you extract only half a square mile of the map you still have a database,
albeit a smaller one.  Even if you only want a list of all coffee shops you 
still
have a database.

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Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com


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[OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents (was: Best license for future tiles?)

2010-11-22 Thread Ed Avis
80n 80n...@... writes:

The relationship between ODbL and DbCL is not very clear and I'm not convinced
that lawyers really understand the distinction between a database and it's
content.  I'm certain that it isn't understood by most ordinary people.

I work with databases every day and I don't understand how the 'database' versus
'contents' distinction is meant to apply to maps and to OSM in particular.

Does anybody?

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