Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Explicitly adding some licenses in 4.4 iii

2008-10-28 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Rob Myers schrieb:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 One of the main problems with sharealike/copyleft is the large number of
 incompatible licenses. I suggest explicitly adding some important such
 licenses to 4.4 iii, so we don't lock too many other free communities
 out from using OSM data.
 
 This is a problem but the licence authors are working on it.
 
 At least the most common ones like GPLv2 or later, LGPL, GFDL and
 CC-BY-SA should be added.
 
 This will make things worse rather than better as it will fork some
 OSM derivatives into four different incompatible streams.
 

I don't think this will make forks more likely. Thinking of the use
cases I mentioned I think people will improve OSM to suit their needs,
then create the flyer/movie/whatever as a derived work from both the OSM
data and something else. The flyer wouldn't make sense to somehow merge
back into OSM anyway.

Philipp


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Explicitly adding some licenses in 4.4 iii

2008-10-27 Thread Rob Myers
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of the main problems with sharealike/copyleft is the large number of
 incompatible licenses. I suggest explicitly adding some important such
 licenses to 4.4 iii, so we don't lock too many other free communities
 out from using OSM data.

This is a problem but the licence authors are working on it.

 At least the most common ones like GPLv2 or later, LGPL, GFDL and
 CC-BY-SA should be added.

This will make things worse rather than better as it will fork some
OSM derivatives into four different incompatible streams.

 Use case 1:
 Creating a flyer about some topic where images from wikimedia commons
 are combined with a map created from OSM data. According to
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GNU_licenses there are
 1319405 GFDLed, 6127 LGPLed, 13575 GPLed and over 40 CC-BY-SA
 (different versions) images on Wikimedia commons.

CC and the FSF are discussing FDL/BY-SA compatibility and Wikipedia is
committed to moving to BY-SA.

BY-SA 1.0 is gone, we have to let it go. ;-) Versions after 2.0 are
compatible with each other and with OSM.

 Use case 2:
 Using OSM in a documentary movie: Places relevant to the movie's topic
 are shown on a map created from OSM data. Zoom in to a place, then
 there's a movie sequence about that place, repeat for other places. For
 the documentary footage placed under a CC license from archive.org's
 moving image archive is used.

This use case seems like it should be possible with the current
licence unless I've missed something again?

- Rob.

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