Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp;amp;amp; the new license
Rob Myers r...@... writes: I'm coming to the conclusion that individual contributor of original data to OSM and institutional importer of a third party database should be treated differently, Perhaps... but who gets the power to decide which is which? You start to introduce political decisions into the process, with all the accompanying disadvantages. I think there is a lot to be said for giving every user, and every contributor, exactly the same rights to use or contribute to the project under exactly the same terms, without special privileges for any particular group or organization. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp;amp;amp; the new license
Ed, Ed Avis wrote: And vice versa. I want to import dataset and that's why we cannot use license is tail-wagging-dog as well. Are you saying that any argument based on data imports is irrelevant to the choice of licence? What, then, would be an admissible reason for not using licence, in your view? In my opinion, the license must be chosen according to what's best for the project in the long term; short term considerations should not apply. Admissible reasons for not using license would be, for example, that license doesn't work, isn't enforcable, leaves too much doubt, runs the risk of sidelining OSM in the long run, or such. We already have some data that is not compatible with license is not one of them. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp;amp;amp; the new license
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: In my opinion, the license must be chosen according to what's best for the project in the long term; short term considerations should not apply. Admissible reasons for not using license would be, for example, ... that license doesn't work ... ODbL has been extensively tested in the courts over many years, how can you possibly say that it doesn't work? ... isn't enforcable ... OSMF has massive legal resources and an excellent track record of relentlessly pursuing and enforcing copyright violations, of course ODbL is enforceable. ... leaves too much doubt ... Legal counsel has advised that ODbL only uses well established and universally understood legal principles. It is clear and easy to understand and contains nothing that is controversial. ... runs the risk of sidelining OSM in the long run ... Everyone is using ODbL, this is mainstream, there's no chance that ODbL would sideline OSM. or such. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk