Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM data on copy-protected storage
On 9 April 2013 21:43, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: The ODbL has a provision for parallel distribution in 4.7b: You may impose terms or technological measures on the Database ... in contravention of Section 4.74 a. only if You also make a copy of the Database or a Derivative Database available to the recipient of the Restricted Database ... So I guess they are fine; the recipient of the card (the Derivative Database) must have access to the data; it doesn't say how this access should work, i.e. the recipient has no right to an unencumbered database that is playable on his specific device. Or has he? 4.7b iii says that the unrestricted database must be at least as accessible to the recipient as a practical matter as the Restricted Database. - so if the recipient *only* has this special hardware device that can *only* play the encrypted cards, would a here's the pbf download link not be less accessible for him...? Thanks for your observations. I'll be checking with them if they can perhaps publish both raw OSM data and a version with OSM data alone that the device can read. (I'm not sure how that encryption works. For example if each layer was a separate file and the files were encrypted individually then it shouldn't be hard to do) However... the second piece you quote kind of makes it difficult to make use of section 4.7b that you quote first. Except in the cases where anyone can produce that Restricted Database from the original database and I imagine normally that's not the case. (?) Cheers ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] OSM data on copy-protected storage
Hi, I'm relaying a license question from a company that collects lake bathymetry data and sells specialised GPS devices to fishers and sailors. They don't make the software on those devices and have to pay to get their data converted to the format understood by that software. They'd like to add layers of OpenStreetMap data to the storage cards shipped with a new device, but they'd like to keep their bathymetry and coastline data proprietary. The cards are copy-protected (encrypted, I believe). Their question is whether OpenStreetMap data can be distributed encrypted on those cards together with their own data. The company can publish, e.g. on their website, whatever files are necessary but they can't publish the conversion process or their own data unencrypted. My understanding is that if their coastline data is not merged with OSM coastline data (one or the other is shown), and if they publish raw OSM data or information on how they extracted it, then they are fine. But I will appreciate any comment from someone who deals with OSM licensing more. Cheers ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM data on copy-protected storage
Even if keeping their data proprietary goes against the nature of OSM, yes OSM data can be used as described - that is if the data is not mixed with mentioned proprietary data. Copyright attribution is still required. LM_1 2013/4/9 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com Hi, I'm relaying a license question from a company that collects lake bathymetry data and sells specialised GPS devices to fishers and sailors. They don't make the software on those devices and have to pay to get their data converted to the format understood by that software. They'd like to add layers of OpenStreetMap data to the storage cards shipped with a new device, but they'd like to keep their bathymetry and coastline data proprietary. The cards are copy-protected (encrypted, I believe). Their question is whether OpenStreetMap data can be distributed encrypted on those cards together with their own data. The company can publish, e.g. on their website, whatever files are necessary but they can't publish the conversion process or their own data unencrypted. My understanding is that if their coastline data is not merged with OSM coastline data (one or the other is shown), and if they publish raw OSM data or information on how they extracted it, then they are fine. But I will appreciate any comment from someone who deals with OSM licensing more. Cheers ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
