Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

2011-05-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/15 Mike  Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com:
 On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

 Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use
 cc-by-sa data in the future.

 Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we cannot
 provide proper attribution.

 I would be willing to looking into that, did anyone raise this issue
 with wikipedia or creative commons? Does it even matter now?


AFAIK there is wikipedia derived publications which cite every single
author that contributed.

Cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

2011-05-15 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

Mike Dupont wrote:

Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use
cc-by-sa data in the future.


Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we cannot 
provide proper attribution.


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

2011-05-15 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

 Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use
 cc-by-sa data in the future.

 Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we cannot
 provide proper attribution.

I would be willing to looking into that, did anyone raise this issue
with wikipedia or creative commons? Does it even matter now?
mike

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[OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

2011-05-14 Thread Kolossos
This september will be a relative large event from Wikimedia-side across 
europe: Wiki Loves Monuments. It is a public photo contest around 
monuments (overview of the cultural heritage, also small houses) and we 
will create lists of monuments in Wikipedia:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011

We (Wikipedia-people) will ask different official side for the object 
lists they have as starting point for us. This lists will contains a lot 
of objects (10.000) with adresses, descriptions, coordinates (with 
luck), year of build, architect,


My question is now under which license or terms we should ask for these 
list so that they later reusable for OpenStreetMap. Would a CC-BY-SA ok 
or should it be ODBL?


Greatings Tim alias Kolossos

 P.S: Are there other ideas to involve OSM in this project?


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

2011-05-14 Thread Rob Myers

On 05/14/2011 06:01 PM, Mike Dupont wrote:

Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use
cc-by-sa data in the future.


Hence the question, I imagine. :-)

PDDL/CC0 for the data would avoid this question, or dual-licencing 
ODbL/BY-SA might be good.


- Rob.

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

2011-05-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 14 May 2011 18:49, Kolossos tim.al...@s2002.tu-chemnitz.de wrote:
 This september will be a relative large event from Wikimedia-side across
 europe: Wiki Loves Monuments. It is a public photo contest around
 monuments (overview of the cultural heritage, also small houses) and we will
 create lists of monuments in Wikipedia:
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011

 We (Wikipedia-people) will ask different official side for the object lists
 they have as starting point for us. This lists will contains a lot of
 objects (10.000) with adresses, descriptions, coordinates (with luck), year
 of build, architect,

 My question is now under which license or terms we should ask for these list
 so that they later reusable for OpenStreetMap. Would a CC-BY-SA ok or should
 it be ODBL?

One additional thing OSM asks is that the coordinates be derived from
a free source and not Google Maps and the like.  I'm just mentioning
it because it's often a surprise for wikipedians who want to
contribute to OSM something they previously made for wikipedia.

We had a discussion about the Wiki Loves Monuments project on osm
Polish forums in the context of collaboration between Wikimedia local
chapter and the osm to-be local chapter, and this Google question came
up again.

Cheers

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