Re: Backlink plugin questions

[Largo84]

OK, I see that now. Looks like a similar bug with this plugin as changes to 
the graph don't 'dirty' the .leo outline and prompt for file saving.

Rob..

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 12:07:05 PM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
> Try selecting a node in the graph you want open at startup, and 
> run graph-toggle-autoload, I think that will load all the explicitly (i.e. 
> backlinks, not just Leo tree relationship) linked nodes in that graph on 
> startup.  You can have multiple unconnected graphs in an outline, this only 
> loads one of them.
>
> Regardless of being loaded at startup, node positions in the graph should 
> always be saved and restored when the node's added back to the graph 
> display.
>
> Cheers -Terry
>
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Backlink plugin questions
>
> Yes, looks good, thanks!
>
> On a related note, I see that graphs aren't saved at all, regardless of 
> file saving. I know that's from a different plugin.
>
> Rob.
>
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 10:31:36 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
> I think all the things you pointed out are fixed in
>
> https://github.com/leo-editor/ leo-editor/commit/bf397a6e 
> <https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/commit/bf397a6e46cad49b483f6be795246373f9d25b73>
>
> let me know if that seem to be the case, or not.
>
> Cheers -Terry
>
>
> --
> *From:* Largo84 <lar...@gmail.com>
> *To:* leo-editor <leo-e...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Backlink plugin questions
>
> Thanks, Terry. While you're at it, can you see why the links don't show up 
> right away until after refreshing, leaving the node and then coming back?
>
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
>
> I'd call it a bug.  I'll try and fix it soon. 
>
> > 2) Is there a way to create links to nodes in other .leo files? If 
> > so, it's not obvious how to do it. 
>
>
> I don't think you can do that with backlinks, unless I'm forgetting 
> something.  The bookmarks plugin can definitely do that. 
>
>
> Yeah, forgot about the bookmarks plugin. I have used that one before also. 
>  
>
>
> Also you probably know this, but the graphcanvas plugin visualizes the 
> links defined by the backlinks plugin. 
>
>
> That's an odd one. there's almost no documentation about it that I can 
> find. It looks like it has potential for a sort of mind-mapping 
> visualization, but it's really not intuitive how to make it work. Still 
> slogging through trying to figure it out. For example, there's a mention to 
> load pygraphviz or pydot for 'layouts', but I got lost trying to figure out 
> how to do either one. Links in the docstring to a blog post are dead.
>
> Rob..
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Re: Backlink plugin questions

['Terry Brown' via leo-editor]

Try selecting a node in the graph you want open at startup, and run 
graph-toggle-autoload, I think that will load all the explicitly (i.e. 
backlinks, not just Leo tree relationship) linked nodes in that graph on 
startup.  You can have multiple unconnected graphs in an outline, this only 
loads one of them.
Regardless of being loaded at startup, node positions in the graph should 
always be saved and restored when the node's added back to the graph display.
Cheers -Terry

 
  From: Largo84 <larg...@gmail.com>
 To: leo-editor <leo-editor@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: terry_n_br...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:39 AM
 Subject: Re: Backlink plugin questions
   
Yes, looks good, thanks!
On a related note, I see that graphs aren't saved at all, regardless of file 
saving. I know that's from a different plugin.
Rob.

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 10:31:36 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
I think all the things you pointed out are fixed in
https://github.com/leo-editor/ leo-editor/commit/bf397a6e
let me know if that seem to be the case, or not.
Cheers -Terry

 
  From: Largo84 <lar...@gmail.com>
 To: leo-editor <leo-e...@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:29 AM
 Subject: Re: Backlink plugin questions
  
Thanks, Terry. While you're at it, can you see why the links don't show up 
right away until after refreshing, leaving the node and then coming back?

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:

I'd call it a bug.  I'll try and fix it soon.

> 2) Is there a way to create links to nodes in other .leo files? If
> so, it's not obvious how to do it.



I don't think you can do that with backlinks, unless I'm forgetting
something.  The bookmarks plugin can definitely do that.


Yeah, forgot about the bookmarks plugin. I have used that one before also.  

Also you probably know this, but the graphcanvas plugin visualizes the
links defined by the backlinks plugin.



That's an odd one. there's almost no documentation about it that I can find. It 
looks like it has potential for a sort of mind-mapping visualization, but it's 
really not intuitive how to make it work. Still slogging through trying to 
figure it out. For example, there's a mention to load pygraphviz or pydot for 
'layouts', but I got lost trying to figure out how to do either one. Links in 
the docstring to a blog post are dead.
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Re: Backlink plugin questions

[Largo84]

Yes, looks good, thanks!

On a related note, I see that graphs aren't saved at all, regardless of 
file saving. I know that's from a different plugin.

Rob.

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 10:31:36 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
> I think all the things you pointed out are fixed in
>
> https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/commit/bf397a6e 
> <https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/commit/bf397a6e46cad49b483f6be795246373f9d25b73>
>
> let me know if that seem to be the case, or not.
>
> Cheers -Terry
>
>
> --
> *From:* Largo84 <lar...@gmail.com >
> *To:* leo-editor <leo-e...@googlegroups.com > 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Backlink plugin questions
>
> Thanks, Terry. While you're at it, can you see why the links don't show up 
> right away until after refreshing, leaving the node and then coming back?
>
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
>
> I'd call it a bug.  I'll try and fix it soon. 
>
> > 2) Is there a way to create links to nodes in other .leo files? If 
> > so, it's not obvious how to do it. 
>
>
> I don't think you can do that with backlinks, unless I'm forgetting 
> something.  The bookmarks plugin can definitely do that. 
>
>
> Yeah, forgot about the bookmarks plugin. I have used that one before also. 
>  
>
>
> Also you probably know this, but the graphcanvas plugin visualizes the 
> links defined by the backlinks plugin. 
>
>
> That's an odd one. there's almost no documentation about it that I can 
> find. It looks like it has potential for a sort of mind-mapping 
> visualization, but it's really not intuitive how to make it work. Still 
> slogging through trying to figure it out. For example, there's a mention to 
> load pygraphviz or pydot for 'layouts', but I got lost trying to figure out 
> how to do either one. Links in the docstring to a blog post are dead.
>
> Rob..
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Re: Backlink plugin questions

['Terry Brown' via leo-editor]

I think all the things you pointed out are fixed in
https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/commit/bf397a6e
let me know if that seem to be the case, or not.
Cheers -Terry

 
  From: Largo84 <larg...@gmail.com>
 To: leo-editor <leo-editor@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:29 AM
 Subject: Re: Backlink plugin questions
   
Thanks, Terry. While you're at it, can you see why the links don't show up 
right away until after refreshing, leaving the node and then coming back?

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:

I'd call it a bug.  I'll try and fix it soon.

> 2) Is there a way to create links to nodes in other .leo files? If
> so, it's not obvious how to do it.



I don't think you can do that with backlinks, unless I'm forgetting
something.  The bookmarks plugin can definitely do that.


Yeah, forgot about the bookmarks plugin. I have used that one before also.  

Also you probably know this, but the graphcanvas plugin visualizes the
links defined by the backlinks plugin.



That's an odd one. there's almost no documentation about it that I can find. It 
looks like it has potential for a sort of mind-mapping visualization, but it's 
really not intuitive how to make it work. Still slogging through trying to 
figure it out. For example, there's a mention to load pygraphviz or pydot for 
'layouts', but I got lost trying to figure out how to do either one. Links in 
the docstring to a blog post are dead.
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Re: Backlink plugin questions

[Largo84]

Thanks, Terry. While you're at it, can you see why the links don't show up 
right away until after refreshing, leaving the node and then coming back?

On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 8:08:58 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:
>
>
> I'd call it a bug.  I'll try and fix it soon. 
>
> > 2) Is there a way to create links to nodes in other .leo files? If 
> > so, it's not obvious how to do it. 
>

I don't think you can do that with backlinks, unless I'm forgetting 
> something.  The bookmarks plugin can definitely do that. 
>

Yeah, forgot about the bookmarks plugin. I have used that one before also.  

>
> Also you probably know this, but the graphcanvas plugin visualizes the 
> links defined by the backlinks plugin. 
>
>
That's an odd one. there's almost no documentation about it that I can 
find. It looks like it has potential for a sort of mind-mapping 
visualization, but it's really not intuitive how to make it work. Still 
slogging through trying to figure it out. For example, there's a mention to 
load pygraphviz or pydot for 'layouts', but I got lost trying to figure out 
how to do either one. Links in the docstring to a blog post are dead.

Rob..

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Re: Backlink plugin questions

['Terry Brown' via leo-editor]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 02:04:53 -0800 (PST)
Largo84  wrote:

> 1) I am using the backlink plugin more now and find that if I create
> links between nodes, the .leo file is not marked 'dirty', so the
> links don't survive if I close the file and reopen (unless I
> explicitly save the file or make other changes that prompt a file
> save). Is this intentional or a bug?

I'd call it a bug.  I'll try and fix it soon.

> 2) Is there a way to create links to nodes in other .leo files? If
> so, it's not obvious how to do it.

I don't think you can do that with backlinks, unless I'm forgetting
something.  The bookmarks plugin can definitely do that.

Also you probably know this, but the graphcanvas plugin visualizes the
links defined by the backlinks plugin.

Cheers -Terry

> Thanks in advance for ideas.
> 
> Rob.
> 

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Backlink plugin questions

[Largo84]

1) I am using the backlink plugin more now and find that if I create links 
between nodes, the .leo file is not marked 'dirty', so the links don't 
survive if I close the file and reopen (unless I explicitly save the file 
or make other changes that prompt a file save). Is this intentional or a 
bug?
2) Is there a way to create links to nodes in other .leo files? If so, it's 
not obvious how to do it.

Thanks in advance for ideas.

Rob.

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