Re: How big is Leo on disk?

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

Hi,

I coined the term "pocket infrastructures" for the ones which are
self-contained, simple and can run from USB drives to humble laptops and
anything in between and beyond. Now my combination includes:

- Pandoc: ~ 15 Mb, For markup processing and conversion.
- Fossil; ~ 3 Mb, kind of a "GitHub in a box" and totally distributed,
providing DVCS, tickets (issues), wiki and embedded web server.
- Sqlite: ~1 Mb, for data manipulation and spreadsheet related task.
- Grafoscopio / Pharo: 164 Mb  Development environment including live
coding, source code manager, data visualization & interactive
notebooks/outlines.

So, is nice to have such set of well diverse but coupled tasks covered
under 200 Mb, compared with the alternatives these days. Even, complex
data intensive research, like the Panama Papers, can be approached by
these "pocket infrastructures" as shown in [1].

BTW, Leo Editor was recently mentioned in a talk about metasystems for
reproducible research [2]

[1] http://mutabit.com/offray/blog/en/entry/panama-papers-1
[2] https://twitter.com/khinsen/status/938834204892254208

Cheers,

Offray

On 07/12/17 20:22, Zoom.Quiet wrote:
> 42M Leo-5.4
> not include Py 2.7.10 + PyQt ...ect.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Matt Wilkie  wrote:
>>> For anyone wondering what you could possibly do with a 20 Mb drive,
>>> apps. and games were all much less than 1 Mb back then, so it was quite
>>> useful.
>> The most amazing program under 1mb I ever encountered was World Construction
>> Set. At a time when the expensive GIS software used to make our daily bread
>> came on 20 to 30 floppy disks (~1995), depending on extensions, it showed up
>> in a measly cardboard envelope, and blew my socks off. It could render a 3D
>> perspective view of rocks, trees, clouds, distance haze and more from
>> real-world spatial data while said expensive GIS software could only draw
>> wire frames.
>> http://www.maphew.com/archive/patawi/matt/polargeo/gallery/3D/Minto_View2.htm
>>
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Re: How big is Leo on disk?

[Zoom.Quiet]

42M Leo-5.4
not include Py 2.7.10 + PyQt ...ect.


On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Matt Wilkie  wrote:
>> For anyone wondering what you could possibly do with a 20 Mb drive,
>> apps. and games were all much less than 1 Mb back then, so it was quite
>> useful.
>
> The most amazing program under 1mb I ever encountered was World Construction
> Set. At a time when the expensive GIS software used to make our daily bread
> came on 20 to 30 floppy disks (~1995), depending on extensions, it showed up
> in a measly cardboard envelope, and blew my socks off. It could render a 3D
> perspective view of rocks, trees, clouds, distance haze and more from
> real-world spatial data while said expensive GIS software could only draw
> wire frames.
> http://www.maphew.com/archive/patawi/matt/polargeo/gallery/3D/Minto_View2.htm
>
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Re: How big is Leo on disk?

[Matt Wilkie]

> For anyone wondering what you could possibly do with a 20 Mb drive,
> apps. and games were all much less than 1 Mb back then, so it was quite
> useful.​

The most amazing program under 1mb I ever encountered was World
Construction Set. At a time when the expensive GIS software used to make
our daily bread came on 20 to 30 floppy disks (~1995), depending on
extensions, it showed up in a measly cardboard envelope, and blew my socks
off. It could render a 3D perspective view of rocks, trees, clouds,
distance haze and more from real-world spatial data while said expensive
GIS software could only draw wire frames.
http://www.maphew.com/archive/patawi/matt/polargeo/gallery/3D/Minto_View2.htm

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Re: How big is Leo on disk?

[Chris George]

My first computer was a TRS-80 with 16k RAM and a cassette tape drive.

My first PC was an XT with 640k RAM and a 5MB hard disk.


Chris

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Kent Tenney  wrote:

> Hey kids, I was thrilled when I got a machine with 2! 5"
> floppies, boot disk AND data disk!
>
> get off my lawn
>
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Terry Brown  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 13:00:14 -0800
>> Matt Wilkie  wrote:
>>
>> > *(Who remembers buying his first hard drive for $$$. A 330mb scsi disk
>>
>> Heh, I paid $$$ for a 20 Mb (yes, megabyte) hard disk.  And now you can
>> get a 128 Gb microSD card for < $25 USD.
>>
>> For anyone wondering what you could possibly do with a 20 Mb drive,
>> apps. and games were all much less than 1 Mb back then, so it was quite
>> useful.
>>
>> Another place Leo can consume a lot of disk space is in the .leo folder
>> in your home directory - old db cache entries can add up a lot.
>>
>> Cheers -Terry
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Re: How big is Leo on disk?

[Kent Tenney]

Hey kids, I was thrilled when I got a machine with 2! 5"
floppies, boot disk AND data disk!

get off my lawn

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Terry Brown  wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 13:00:14 -0800
> Matt Wilkie  wrote:
>
> > *(Who remembers buying his first hard drive for $$$. A 330mb scsi disk
>
> Heh, I paid $$$ for a 20 Mb (yes, megabyte) hard disk.  And now you can
> get a 128 Gb microSD card for < $25 USD.
>
> For anyone wondering what you could possibly do with a 20 Mb drive,
> apps. and games were all much less than 1 Mb back then, so it was quite
> useful.
>
> Another place Leo can consume a lot of disk space is in the .leo folder
> in your home directory - old db cache entries can add up a lot.
>
> Cheers -Terry
>
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Re: How big is Leo on disk?

[Terry Brown]

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 13:00:14 -0800
Matt Wilkie  wrote:

> *(Who remembers buying his first hard drive for $$$. A 330mb scsi disk

Heh, I paid $$$ for a 20 Mb (yes, megabyte) hard disk.  And now you can
get a 128 Gb microSD card for < $25 USD.

For anyone wondering what you could possibly do with a 20 Mb drive,
apps. and games were all much less than 1 Mb back then, so it was quite
useful.

Another place Leo can consume a lot of disk space is in the .leo folder
in your home directory - old db cache entries can add up a lot.

Cheers -Terry

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Re: How big is Leo on disk?

[Mike Hodson]

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Matt Wilkie  wrote:

>
> *(Who remembers buying his first hard drive for $$$. A 330mb scsi disk
> drive that was 5cm/2inch thick and could be used as a boat anchor or to
> crush the skull of a troll. Awesomely strong magnets inside too.)*
>
I remember my first Linux install.
It was on 2 disks, in a 486...
An 80MB and a 204MB.  the 204 was /usr. the 80 was / ..
I tried for no less than 2 days to get RedHat 5.1 installed... Note: do NOT
install TeTeX! (i thought 'hey this sounds cool' without ever knowing how
massive it was)

Ah...Memories...

Mike

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How big is Leo on disk?

[Matt Wilkie]

I've been wondering how much storage am I devoting to Leo. I have one
install for each type (user, develop, git) in a virtual env. Here's what's
on my Win7 machine:

Foundation:

280 mb - Bare bones dependencies: python3 + pyqt5
322 mb - Leo user dependencies: {bare} + docutils + sphinx
330 mb - Leo develop dependencies: {user} + pylint + pylakes + twine + ...

Leo:

036 mb - Leo itself (what gets put into `site-packages` with pip install)
040 mb - Leo git export (everything in git master branch but nothing else)
217 mb - Leo git checkout ({export} + .git folder which has several
branches)

So right now my total is 1,225 MB.

matt


*(Who remembers buying his first hard drive for $$$. A 330mb scsi disk
drive that was 5cm/2inch thick and could be used as a boat anchor or to
crush the skull of a troll. Awesomely strong magnets inside too.)*

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