Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-15 Thread Kent Tenney
Happy birthday Edward!
Leo has been a big deal to me. I found Leo pre-python
and have been hooked ever since. Then I discovered you
live across the street from my high school sweetheart ...

This list is the only one I read every msg, this one here
is 5 of 15,221 ...

You've reached so many from the Leo bunker, I've heard
that Linus drives Linux from a basement room, so you're
in good company.

Thanks,
Kent

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 5:57 AM lewis  wrote:

> Congratulations on your birthday, I hope all the family enjoys the
> celebrations.
> Thank you for Leo, it is a great place to learn, both in the community and
> the editor. I look forward to new projects and it's continuing evolution.
>
> I always enjoy stories about your brother Speed, even though they only
> offer glimpses of his knowledge :)
>
> Thanks
> Lewis
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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-15 Thread lewis
Congratulations on your birthday, I hope all the family enjoys the 
celebrations.
Thank you for Leo, it is a great place to learn, both in the community and 
the editor. I look forward to new projects and it's continuing evolution.

I always enjoy stories about your brother Speed, even though they only 
offer glimpses of his knowledge :) 

Thanks
Lewis

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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-15 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:41 PM Zoom.Quiet  wrote:

> Happy Birthday 令德华
>

:-)

in china there is one big theory:
> if coder old 35, is can not coding great program,
> but look u, double 35, is always happy hacking.
>

Hehe.  To paraphrase Hokusai , I am
an old man, crazy about programming.

so glory
> so inspirit me.
>
> thanx for all,
> Leo is upgrade my life.
>

You're welcome.  I'm touched by your remarks.

Edward

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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-15 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 9:30 AM vitalije  wrote:

> You have already mentioned on several occasions a wish for someone to be
your successor in the Leo project. As a 70 years old man, it is the time to
consider what is going to happen to Leo once you are gone.

Imo, there is no need for something like Python's Steering Counci
l. Instead, we can use an
informal version of the Apache Way .
I particularly recommend Shane's interpretation ,
particularly the section on merit .

There is little doubt about Leonine merit.  We all know the contributions
of the members of Team Leo.

> IMHO you would do very good to use the rest of your time to refactor and
polish Leo's code base.

I'm going to spend the rest of my time pushing Leo forward. Having said
that, I welcome specific proposals for useful refactorings.  Those
proposals will compete with all other enhancement proposals.

As always, the way to get my attention is to write working code.  I am
always happy to answer questions about Leo's code.

> You're the only one with necessary authority for such task. Once you are
gone, the remaining developers may have some difficulties to fully agree on
such refactorings.

I'm not going to micro manage what happens after I am gone.  Imo, following
the Apache Way will suffice.  What really matters is that Team Leo
continues without me.

Edward

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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-14 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Dear Edward!

Happy birthday and thanks a lot for the two decades gift that you have
done continuously, year after year, for all of us (I started using Leo
around 2005).

Your insight, momentum, public thinking and craftsmanship has been
really inspiring and energizing for many of us.

Leo legacy lives even beyond Python. For example, when I made my
elevator pitch for Grafoscopio to technical minded people I resume it
as: Combining ideas from Leo, Jupyter and Pharo (and some of my own
cooking).

I hope you enjoy this celebration with you and your family. This
community for sure is enriched day to day with your presence and so, we
share part of the joy with your family.

Cheers,

Offray

On 13/08/19 4:00 p. m., Edward K. Ream wrote:
> Today is my 70th birthday.  Here's how it started.
>
> At 7 a.m. I was working in my basement office when I got a call from
> my daughter, Linda.  She wished me a happy birthday, and asked if I
> gotten her package.  I said "it's too early for a delivery."  She said
> "they said it had been delivered".  I was skeptical, but went
> upstairs.  Whom should I see, but Linda herself!  When I opened the
> door we both burst out into gales of laughter.  Btw, Linda lives in
> Seattle.  She had taken the red eye.
>
> Later, I called my brother Speed.  As usual, we had a lovely chat.  I
> told him how excited I was that so much remains to do with Leo. At the
> end, I told him, "I love you", something I almost never say to anyone
> directly.  I told Speed that I don't much care for those actual three
> words. They're a trite formula. Much better, imo, to say, in more
> specific, ever changing ways, just how and why my life is enriched by
> those that I do love.
>
> And so it is with you, my dears. Team Leo, with all your enthusiasms,
> questions, suggestions and invaluable contributions, are one of the
> great blessings of my life.
>
> Edward
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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-14 Thread vitalije

>
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 11:00:54 PM UTC+2, Edward K. Ream wrote:

Today is my 70th birthday.  Here's how it started.


Happy birthday! Best wishes!

I am surprised that you are already seventy. Who would have thought! I 
thought you were 58 or so.

I wish to offer you a small gift in the form of an idea, or an inspiration. 
But I'll wait for you to finish all your current pyzo integration ideas and 
tasks. Once you are ready to change your focus to something else, please 
let me know and I will describe some ideas that I believe would be worthy 
of your time.

You have already mention on several occasions a wish for someone to be your 
successor in the Leo project. As a 70 years old man, it is the time to 
consider what is going to happen to Leo once you are gone. IMHO you would 
do very good to use the rest of your time to refactor and polish Leo's code 
base. To remove everything that can be removed rather than to add something 
new to it. You're the only one with necessary authority for such task. Once 
you are gone, the remaining developers may have some difficulties to fully 
agree on such refactorings. It would be much easier to deal with those 
refactorings, while you are still able to work on Leo.

By polishing Leo's code base, and doing all these cleanings and 
refactorings publicly on this forum, you will pass (and make a public 
record of) all your insights and knowledge. That would greately increase 
chances for finding your successor.

In the past I have already tried to persuade you to make some changes in 
Leo and it didn't go very well. Perhaps, I have started from the wrong end 
and my ideas came to you as too drastic to accept. That is why I intend to 
try once again, by pointing to some less drastic refactorings that 
hopefully we will be able to agree on. Once we make a few less drastic 
refactorings, and by doing them we improve Leo's code base a little and 
make it easier to grasp, it may turn out, that we will be able to agree on 
a bit larger refactorings as well.

All the best to you and your familly
Vitalije

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Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-14 Thread Robert Cholette
Been using Leo since 2002. Happy birthday Edward!!

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Re: invite vlog for PyCon2019China [via] Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-14 Thread Rob
Awesome stories! Thanks for sharing yourself, not just Leo (though it is a 
very large reflection).

We share a birthday month, mine just a week ago (65, ready for Medicare!). 
One thing that attracted me to Leo years ago was the name, being a Leo 
myself.

Best wishes for many more! Regards,

Rob...

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invite vlog for PyCon2019China [via] Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-14 Thread Zoom.Quiet
Edward K. Ream  于2019年8月14日周三 下午5:29写道:
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 4:01 PM Edward K. Ream  wrote:
>>
>> Today is my 70th birthday.  Here's how it started.
>
>
> Thanks for all your good wishes.  It's great to be part of this community.
>

Thanks for EKR created Leo,
BTW:
invite u say some thing for Chinese Pythoneer,
like 6years ago:
http://0.zoomquiet.top/pychina/PyCon2013China/PyConChina2013-EKR-final-v2.mp4

this year, is Python 30th birthday,
so PyChina.org organizing 6 city conference, for celebrate and sharing
last year''s Pythonic story;
https://cn.pycon.org/

should u record one video to Chinese Pythoneer:
+ blessing PyConChina well do
+ introduce Leo 20 years update story
+ and the introduce maybe the oldest Pythoneer story from uself?
how to found the favor career;
and how to happy hacking forever?

that will very spirit Chinese Pythonista.

Yours old user, DAMA(Zoom.Quiet)

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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 4:01 PM Edward K. Ream  wrote:

> Today is my 70th birthday.  Here's how it started.
>

Thanks for all your good wishes.  It's great to be part of this community.

Edward

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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-13 Thread Viktor Ransmayr
Hello Edward,

A belated Happy Birthday from Europe!

What a great story to read in the morning. - Thanks for sharing it with us.

With kind regards

Viktor

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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-13 Thread Zoom.Quiet
Happy Birthday 令德华
in china there is one big theory:
if coder old 35, is can not coding great program,
but look u, double 35, is always happy hacking.

so glory
so inspirit me.

thanx for all,
Leo is upgrade my life.

Matt Wilkie  于2019年8月14日周三 上午7:30写道:
>
> Happy Birthday Edward!
>
> What a wonderful sense of delivery your daughter has (pun fully intended). 
> Verbal formula's can be trite, most especially when overused, but when held 
> back for rare occasions, especially powerful.
>
> Thank you for your gifts to the world. I really appreciate their presence 
> when I find them overlapping my explorations and studies.
>
> -matt
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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-13 Thread Matt Wilkie
Happy Birthday Edward! 

What a wonderful sense of delivery your daughter has (pun fully intended). 
Verbal formula's can be trite, most especially when overused, but when held 
back for rare occasions, especially powerful.

Thank you for your gifts to the world. I really appreciate their presence 
when I find them overlapping my explorations and studies.

-matt

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Re: Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-13 Thread Xavier G. Domingo

Happy birthday Edward!

It's being a pleasure being a part, though little, of your life and 
walking this path with you. The love and enthusiasm in Leo *are first of 
all yours*, and this profoundly shapes the enriching atmosphere of the 
whole Leo team.


Thanks for being who you are! I'm learning from you every day.

My most sincere hug!
Xavier

El 13/08/2019 a las 18:00, Edward K. Ream escribió:

Today is my 70th birthday.  Here's how it started.

At 7 a.m. I was working in my basement office when I got a call from 
my daughter, Linda.  She wished me a happy birthday, and asked if I 
gotten her package.  I said "it's too early for a delivery."  She said 
"they said it had been delivered".  I was skeptical, but went 
upstairs.  Whom should I see, but Linda herself!  When I opened the 
door we both burst out into gales of laughter.  Btw, Linda lives in 
Seattle.  She had taken the red eye.


Later, I called my brother Speed.  As usual, we had a lovely chat.  I 
told him how excited I was that so much remains to do with Leo. At the 
end, I told him, "I love you", something I almost never say to anyone 
directly.  I told Speed that I don't much care for those actual three 
words. They're a trite formula. Much better, imo, to say, in more 
specific, ever changing ways, just how and why my life is enriched by 
those that I do love.


And so it is with you, my dears. Team Leo, with all your enthusiasms, 
questions, suggestions and invaluable contributions, are one of the 
great blessings of my life.


Edward
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Two birthday stories on my 70th birthday

2019-08-13 Thread Edward K. Ream
Today is my 70th birthday.  Here's how it started.

At 7 a.m. I was working in my basement office when I got a call from my 
daughter, Linda.  She wished me a happy birthday, and asked if I gotten her 
package.  I said "it's too early for a delivery."  She said "they said it 
had been delivered".  I was skeptical, but went upstairs.  Whom should I 
see, but Linda herself!  When I opened the door we both burst out into 
gales of laughter.  Btw, Linda lives in Seattle.  She had taken the red eye.

Later, I called my brother Speed.  As usual, we had a lovely chat.  I told 
him how excited I was that so much remains to do with Leo. At the end, I 
told him, "I love you", something I almost never say to anyone directly.  I 
told Speed that I don't much care for those actual three words. They're a 
trite formula. Much better, imo, to say, in more specific, ever changing 
ways, just how and why my life is enriched by those that I do love.

And so it is with you, my dears. Team Leo, with all your enthusiasms, 
questions, suggestions and invaluable contributions, are one of the great 
blessings of my life.

Edward

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