Re: [lfs-dev] Editors only: stable vs development

2016-10-31 Thread DJ Lucas



On 10/31/2016 02:58 PM, Samuel Tyler wrote:

I have a few questions for the editors:

For your main (production) system, do you use a stable build of LFS or
the development build?
And why?

Thanks,

Samuel


Define main system. :-) If you are referring to the laptop that I use 
most, development constantly. I've been playing with our toolchain build 
a bit lately, so it's been getting replaced frequently--I don't bother 
with updates on it unless it affects something that I plan to commit. 
Build, boot, test with a shared /home (and network storage). If no good, 
scrap it. If good (or close enough), remove original, do it over again 
on that partition.


If you are inquiring of production systems (plural), main is not 
something I'd care to define. This message gets much longer and includes 
Arch, CentOS, as well as LFS - though LFS has the prominent role of 
primary network storage, and is updated much more conservatively than 
any of the others (except for maybe the CentOS box). Latest != greatest. 
I'm guessing that updating is at least part of the question above. An 
intelligent backup scheme (including packaging), and planning/testing on 
a similar box go a long way to avoiding and/or circumventing any 
surprises that result in any significant downtime.


HTH

--DJ

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Re: [lfs-dev] Editors only: stable vs development

2016-10-31 Thread Douglas R. Reno
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Samuel Tyler <
samuel.ty...@education.nsw.gov.au> wrote:

> I have a few questions for the editors:
>
> For your main (production) system, do you use a stable build of LFS or the
> development build?
> And why?
>
>
I use a development build (I am a nut for security, and as a result, I
don't like having vulnerabilities open). My workstation is running
SVN-20161014-systemd. I am still building it though, and I probably use a
lot more packages regularly than Bruce does. The programming environment
that I need to use for one of my classes has a ton of GNOME integration /
dependencies, so I have to build a large majority of GNOME in order for it
to work properly (or reliably, for that matter).

Thanks,
>
> Samuel
>
>
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Re: [lfs-dev] : Editors only: stable vs development

2016-10-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 06:58:48AM +1100, Samuel Tyler wrote:
> I have a few questions for the editors:
> 
> For your main (production) system, do you use a stable build of LFS or the
> development build?
> And why?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Samuel
> 
Both.   I suppose that arguably my main production system is my
SandyBridge i3, and for that I now only normally build stable LFS
and the corresponding BLFS release (takes so long, even for only the
parts I use!).

If I manage to get time (not likely now), my machine for photo
editing and sound recording happens to be running svn from a few
weeks before 7.10.  For what I want to do there (particularly, more
playing with 16-bit photos in gimp-2.9) that build is good enough.

My Haswell is running 7.10.  I build LFS svn and enough of BLFS
(openssl, openssh, ntp, nfs, git, etc) to check it was usable when I
did the updates the other week.  But now it is waiting for the next
Xorg server upgrade to be released.  In any case, if I tag a package
in BLFS for 7.10 then I ought to be running close to 7.10.

But in practice I'm not going to do much at the moment - too many
other problems, mostly not computer.

ĸen
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[lfs-dev] Editors only: stable vs development

2016-10-31 Thread Samuel Tyler
I have a few questions for the editors:

For your main (production) system, do you use a stable build of LFS or the
development build?
And why?

Thanks,

Samuel


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