Re: Package users: wrapper script for mkdir

2006-09-07 Thread Angel Tsankov

The addition of this feature is desired since the glibc 2.3.4
installation (from LFS 6.1.1) calls mkdir with relative paths 


You'll have a hard time convincing me of that. No glibc version I've ever
installed did this. I have an LFS system lying around that used 2.3.4
which has /usr/share/locale/* with proper permissions and I'm certain that
I didn't manually change the permissions of /usr/share/locale.
I've also installed glibc-2.4 just a few weeks ago and it worked fine.

I'm sorry but I think you are doing something wrong, probably a messed up
PATH.


Yes! You are devishly right:

(as root): echo 'echo $PATH' | su glibc
/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/tools/bin

(as root): su glibc
package glibc:/usr/src/glibc echo $PATH
/usr/lib/pkgusr:/bin:/usr/bin:/tools/bin

I am using the first approach to automate the LFS build process. It looks like 
in this case the .bash_profile file is not read. Why?
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Re: Switching users in a bash script?

2006-09-07 Thread Brandon Peirce

Angel Tsankov wrote:


 exit
 END FILE

 Then simply call:
 echo build-package-name.txt | su

What will happen if I do not append an 'exit' at the end of the file?


Then it will get stuck I think and you will have to hit C-c to get out of 
it.


No, it does not. I tried with and without 'exit' and I get the same result, 
at least visually, i.e. I did not chech if some process is left waiting 
or anything like this.


That's not surprising.
Non-interactive shell should terminate when it encounters EOF on input 
stream.



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Booting problems

2006-09-07 Thread Luca

   Hi there!

   Just finished LFS SVN-20060906 with some modifications (Glibc-2.4 
plus Glibc-LibIDN-2.4 built as per book and Linux-2.6.17.11 plus 
Linux-Headers-2.6.17.11-08232006 from Cross-LFS SVN-20060906-x86) and 
had no problems in compilation. Now I tried various times to boot but 
had no success, always ended up with a kernel panic.
   The error message is  VFS: Cannot open root device sdb3 or 
unknown-block (0,0)

   Please append a correct root= boot option
   Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 
unknown-block (0,0).


   Host is OpenSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 i386 on first ide hd (hda) (hda1 swap, 
hda2 root, hda3 home); dvdrecorder is hdc and dvd is hdd; I built into 
sata hard disk 2 (sdb with LFS on sdb3)  (first sata is sda with M$). I 
built reiserfs (file system of my LFS system while OpenSUSE use xfs) and 
libata plus sata_via compiled into the kernel while scsi and other 
devices (ide etc...) as modules.

   Boot is from grub os OpenSUSE configured like this:
   title OpenSUSE
   root (hd0,1)
   kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2

   and then

   title LFS SVN-20060906
   root (hd?,?) # I tried various options with no success
   kernel /boot/lfskernel-2.6.17.11 root=/dev/sdb3

   Where is the error and how to solve it? If something else is 
needed (kernel-configurations or what please ask).


   Thanks in advance,
   Luca 


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Re: Booting problems

2006-09-07 Thread dave frost
If i were you id have all hard drive based support compiled into the 
kernel, and none as modules, its the safest way.


Id try that.

Dave

Luca wrote:

   Hi there!

   Just finished LFS SVN-20060906 with some modifications (Glibc-2.4 
plus Glibc-LibIDN-2.4 built as per book and Linux-2.6.17.11 plus 
Linux-Headers-2.6.17.11-08232006 from Cross-LFS SVN-20060906-x86) and 
had no problems in compilation. Now I tried various times to boot but 
had no success, always ended up with a kernel panic.
   The error message is  VFS: Cannot open root device sdb3 or 
unknown-block (0,0)

   Please append a correct root= boot option
   Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 
unknown-block (0,0).


   Host is OpenSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 i386 on first ide hd (hda) (hda1 
swap, hda2 root, hda3 home); dvdrecorder is hdc and dvd is hdd; I 
built into sata hard disk 2 (sdb with LFS on sdb3)  (first sata is sda 
with M$). I built reiserfs (file system of my LFS system while 
OpenSUSE use xfs) and libata plus sata_via compiled into the kernel 
while scsi and other devices (ide etc...) as modules.

   Boot is from grub os OpenSUSE configured like this:
   title OpenSUSE
   root (hd0,1)
   kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2

   and then

   title LFS SVN-20060906
   root (hd?,?) # I tried various options with no success
   kernel /boot/lfskernel-2.6.17.11 root=/dev/sdb3

   Where is the error and how to solve it? If something else is 
needed (kernel-configurations or what please ask).


   Thanks in advance,
   Luca



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Linux KVM Switch Support

2006-09-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
I've been looking into getting another box at home, but I really don't 
have the space to support another full desktop setup. So, I figured I 
could just get a KVM switch and save some space.


The question is, can anyone recommend a model to use that will work well 
with the current kernel? I'd prefer a switch that has DVI inputs since 
the monitor is an LCD and both cards should be able to drive it 
digitally. How do these switches interact with X? I've never used a KVM 
switch before, so any information would be helpful.


Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.

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Re: Linux KVM Switch Support

2006-09-07 Thread Jaqui Greenlees

--- Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 09/07/06 11:27
 CST:
 
  The question is, can anyone recommend a model to
 use that will work well 
  with the current kernel?
 
 I use an *old* Linksys KVM without any issues
 whatsoever. It is a
 ProConnect 4-station, model #SVIEW04.

and I'm using a newer Startech SV411 4 way kvm switch.
[ SV411, came with the cables, at just under $100 CDN
]

 
  I'd prefer a switch that has DVI inputs since 
  the monitor is an LCD and both cards should be
 able to drive it 
  digitally.
 
 Can't help you there, my switch does not have DVI
 capability.

Mine is svga monitor connection, but drives flat
screen monitor no problem.
 
 
  How do these switches interact with X?
 
 Mine works just fine, without any issues whatsoever.
 

Same here, if there is zero client software they
should work, so the smart switches are not good, the
software is windows only.

  I've never used a KVM 
  switch before, so any information would be
 helpful.
 
 I know I wasn't able to provide very much help,
 other than
 I use one without any issues whatsoever. :-)
 
 It is as simple as pushing Ctrl-Alt-RightShift and
 then 1, 2,
 3 or 4 depending on the box I want. Different video
 resolution,
 scan rates, color settings, etc. don't matter. The
 monitor
 adjusts according to the signal it receives.
 

My keyboard controls are slightly simpler, left
control+left control then 1-4 to pick system.


Jeff Henager: If the average user can put a CD in and boot the system and 
follow the prompts, he can install and use Linux. If he can't do that simple 
task, he doesn't need to be around technology.

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Re: Linux KVM Switch Support

2006-09-07 Thread Alan Lord

Dan Nicholson wrote:
The question is, can anyone recommend a model to use that will work well 
with the current kernel? I'd prefer a switch that has DVI inputs since 
the monitor is an LCD and both cards should be able to drive it 
digitally. How do these switches interact with X? I've never used a KVM 
switch before, so any information would be helpful.


Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.

--
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I use (now) a Belkin Omniview Pro which takes PS/2 inputs from the kbd 
and mouse and connects to your host computers via USB. It is VGA for the 
monitor.


Only problem I have is with my mouse (It is a logitech MX1000) and I 
have it connected to the KVM via a USB/PS/2 converter.


The hosts only see (unsurprisingly) the KVM interface as far as the USB 
is concerned so I loose the ablility to make a nice device for my 
mouse. I don't move things about much and it always appears on 
/dev/event1 so it isn't a problem.


The other thing which Ken (Moffat?) also seemed to suffer with along 
with me was the loss of the pipe key (On a UK kbd this is a shifted 
\). This seems to be a kernel issue rather than something specific 
with KVMs but now I access that host using SSH or VNC and it goes away!


Hope that helps some.

Alan

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Re: Booting problems

2006-09-07 Thread kriss

Luca a écrit :

   Hi there!

   Just finished LFS SVN-20060906 with some modifications (Glibc-2.4 
plus Glibc-LibIDN-2.4 built as per book and Linux-2.6.17.11 plus 
Linux-Headers-2.6.17.11-08232006 from Cross-LFS SVN-20060906-x86) and 
had no problems in compilation. Now I tried various times to boot but 
had no success, always ended up with a kernel panic.
   The error message is  VFS: Cannot open root device sdb3 or 
unknown-block (0,0)

   Please append a correct root= boot option
   Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 
unknown-block (0,0).


   Host is OpenSUSE 10.2 Alpha 3 i386 on first ide hd (hda) (hda1 
swap, hda2 root, hda3 home); dvdrecorder is hdc and dvd is hdd; I 
built into sata hard disk 2 (sdb with LFS on sdb3)  (first sata is sda 
with M$). I built reiserfs (file system of my LFS system while 
OpenSUSE use xfs) and libata plus sata_via compiled into the kernel 
while scsi and other devices (ide etc...) as modules.

   Boot is from grub os OpenSUSE configured like this:
   title OpenSUSE
   root (hd0,1)
   kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2

   and then

   title LFS SVN-20060906
   root (hd?,?) # I tried various options with no success
   kernel /boot/lfskernel-2.6.17.11 root=/dev/sdb3

   Where is the error and how to solve it? If something else is 
needed (kernel-configurations or what please ask).


   Thanks in advance,
   Luca

it should be root (hd2,2)

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No sound from speakers

2006-09-07 Thread Richard Melville
Please can somebody help.  I've reached the stage of desperation.  I've
compiled the via drivers and alsa into the kernel and installed the alsa
library, plug-ins, utilities and alsa oss.  I've run the speaker-test and
played a wav file and everything on the terminal screen looks good.  I
have not been able to get any failures, but I still cannot get any sound
from the speakers.  I've tested the speakers and cable on another box
and they are good.  Does anybody know what the problem could be? It must
be something simple that's eluding me.

Thanks in advance.

Richard
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Re: Booting problems

2006-09-07 Thread Mag. Leonhard Landrock
Am Donnerstag, 7. September 2006 18:19 schrieb Luca:
 Hi there!

Hi Luca!

[...]

 Now I tried various times to boot but
 had no success, always ended up with a kernel panic.
 The error message is  VFS: Cannot open root device sdb3 or
 unknown-block (0,0)
 Please append a correct root= boot option
 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
 unknown-block (0,0).

[...]

 Where is the error and how to solve it? If something else is
 needed (kernel-configurations or what please ask).

Well, just have a look 
at http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2006-August/031351.html;.

Maybe you just need to ad a rootdelay= option.

 Thanks in advance,
 Luca

HTH,
Leonhard.

PS: Let us know about your forthcoming. :-)
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Re: Linux KVM Switch Support

2006-09-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 09:27:49AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
 I've been looking into getting another box at home, but I really don't 
 have the space to support another full desktop setup. So, I figured I 
 could just get a KVM switch and save some space.
 
 The question is, can anyone recommend a model to use that will work well 
 with the current kernel? I'd prefer a switch that has DVI inputs since 
 the monitor is an LCD and both cards should be able to drive it 
 digitally. How do these switches interact with X? I've never used a KVM 
 switch before, so any information would be helpful.
 
 For consumer-level devices, no!  If you downgrade works well to
works fairly well, any of them, at least for PS/2.  Problems I see
are occasional garbled display in X (change to another resolution,
if you can, or to a tty then come back) and very occasional
uncontrollable bursts of mouse activity (in menu bars) for no
obvious reason (perhaps once a week on one of the machines).

 As Alan noted, I've got a problem with a PS/2 KVM feeding a
usb-only machine (mac G5).  I think it's a kernel problem, and
probably doesn't affect most key layouts (we Brits seem to have an
extra keycode for these glyphs) - I've got my compose key working
on that box, so compose-v-l or compose-/-/ give me | and \.  FWIW,
my posts to usb-devel didn't get through and I haven't got around
to looking at my email config to try to fix that.  That box also
suffers from fairly consistent excesses of vertical scroll-up events
in windows and xterms, I've been assuming it's the nvidia graphics
card but it could be the KVM.

 But KVMs with DVI ? - never seen one.

Ken
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Re: Linux KVM Switch Support

2006-09-07 Thread Mag. Leonhard Landrock
Hi Dan!

Am Donnerstag, 7. September 2006 18:27 schrieb Dan Nicholson:
 I've been looking into getting another box at home, but I really don't
 have the space to support another full desktop setup. So, I figured I
 could just get a KVM switch and save some space.

Good idea. :-)

 The question is, can anyone recommend a model to use that will work well
 with the current kernel?

Recommend? Well, we have a Belkin model in use and are quite happy with it. No 
real problems so far. :-)

(German) part number is: F1DB104Pg

Take a look 
at http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=123878; 
where you can get a picture of it.

 I'd prefer a switch that has DVI inputs since 
 the monitor is an LCD and both cards should be able to drive it
 digitally.

Sorry, no idea.

 How do these switches interact with X? I've never used a KVM 
 switch before, so any information would be helpful.

The swith we use behaves just like the monitor itself. Beside that it, of 
course, gives you keyboard and mouse.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Thanks.

 --
 Dan

HTH,
Leonhard.
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Re: No sound from speakers

2006-09-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 08:57:02PM +0100, Richard Melville wrote:
 Please can somebody help.  I've reached the stage of desperation.  I've
 compiled the via drivers and alsa into the kernel and installed the alsa
 library, plug-ins, utilities and alsa oss.  I've run the speaker-test and
 played a wav file and everything on the terminal screen looks good.  I
 have not been able to get any failures, but I still cannot get any sound
 from the speakers.  I've tested the speakers and cable on another box
 and they are good.  Does anybody know what the problem could be? It must
 be something simple that's eluding me.

 Sound is like that, I'm afraid.  If you try to play through a
driver for which the hardware is not present, I'm not sure if they
all report errors, so perhaps you have the wrong driver - has sound
ever worked on this hardware ?

 Non-software possibilities - input on amp not connected or not
selected, speaker cables fell out of amp (I've had both of those),
amp turned down too far.

 Alsa possibilities - a 'hidden' control which is muted (some
drivers have more controls than fit on the screen, and everything
defaults to off and muted).  For testing, it can help to set
everything to unmuted and fairly high level, but it depends how
sensitive your amp is - you may need to be ready to turn down a
physical volume control.

 There can also be 64/32 or endian issues with obscure combinations
of hardware and sound cards, but those usually lead to either error
messages or aplay taking a persistent 100% cpu.

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Re: Linux KVM Switch Support

2006-09-07 Thread Dan Nicholson

First, thanks to everyone for sharing.

Ken Moffat wrote:

 For consumer-level devices, no!  If you downgrade works well to
works fairly well, any of them, at least for PS/2.  Problems I see
are occasional garbled display in X (change to another resolution,
if you can, or to a tty then come back) and very occasional
uncontrollable bursts of mouse activity (in menu bars) for no
obvious reason (perhaps once a week on one of the machines).


I was afraid of that. A couple years ago a friend of mine was trying to 
use a KVM switch on a RedHat system that didn't work. I think it was a 
kernel issue that got fixed. That's the closest to experience I have.


So, it sounds like people have had mixed experiences, mostly positive, 
though. Is there any online resource with information? Something similar 
to this:


http://www.linux-usb.org/

Oh, I found this:

http://www.keylabs.com/linux/results_kvm.html


 But KVMs with DVI ? - never seen one.


Here's some I found. They're not cheap. It would be nice though, since 
all the components otherwise are capable. VGA would be work, so it's not 
a showstopper.


http://www.kvm-switches-online.com/dvi-kvm-switch.html
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=262900

I'm also thinking about PS/2 vs. USB. Seems like the switches have one 
or the other. Not a big deal there, but I want it to work. I'll probably 
stick with PS/2 as that's what I know how to work with.


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P.S., Ken. Don't know if this will help, but I stumbled upon a blog 
where a guy was having issues with a KVM on a MacMini using a PS/2 to 
USB converter. Fix came a while back, but maybe this could help. The 
guy, Hubert Figuiere, is a developer of some GNOME applications.


http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2005/03/08/110-kvm-and-linux
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Re: Linux KVM Switch Support

2006-09-07 Thread Tyler Packer
I've had a few minor problems with X losing the mouse device when
switching between windows and linux boxes on a couple different (older)
Belkin models.  I then switched to Cybex (also an older model) and I've
had no problems switching between any of the OS's I use.  I'm currently
using an 8 port Cybex Autoview Commander and it has never given me
problems.   

Because it's an older kvm, it does not support usb or dvi, but works
great with Hi-res svga (1600+), 3D desktop (gset-compiz), and Ultra-wide
monitors.

Good luck!

-Tyler


On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 09:27 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
 I've been looking into getting another box at home, but I really don't 
 have the space to support another full desktop setup. So, I figured I 
 could just get a KVM switch and save some space.
 
 The question is, can anyone recommend a model to use that will work well 
 with the current kernel? I'd prefer a switch that has DVI inputs since 
 the monitor is an LCD and both cards should be able to drive it 
 digitally. How do these switches interact with X? I've never used a KVM 
 switch before, so any information would be helpful.
 
 Anyone have any suggestions?
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
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Re: Switching users in a bash script?

2006-09-07 Thread veritosproject

Assuming that you meant

cat build-package-name.txt | su

this makes bash read neither /etc/bash_profile, nor ~/.bash_profile. This is 
the case even if su is invoked with -. With package
users, I need bash to read ~/.bash_profile before I execute the instructions in 
build-package-name.txt.


I did mean with cat.  Just throw a

'source ~/.bash_profile' just after the root password.
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Re: Booting problems

2006-09-07 Thread Luca
Thanks to all for the replays, after sending the post I tried 
recompiling the kernel including internal support for xfs, ide_core, 
ide_disk, scsi, sd_mod and via82cxxx and not as modules and this solved 
the problem, now I will try with your indications about grub...


By the way, actually it seems working well my system using Cross-LFS 
headers instead of Linux-Libc-Headers from Mazurk, Glibc-2.4 includes 
inotify.h so it would be unnecessary to patch it and copy the header 
manually.


Luca 


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