Share the TRIvial Packager please

2009-07-29 Thread michael kapelko
Hello.
I'd like to know if anyone can share the TRIvial Packager
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/package_management_using_trip.txt
because it is no longer available at
http://things.1000wallpaper.com/trip/trip.tar
Thanks.
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Re: Error when trying make the kernel

2009-07-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Justin P. Mattock wrote:

Justin,
   Trim your posts to the minimum needed to reply.

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Re: Share the TRIvial Packager please

2009-07-29 Thread RaptorX
I am not sure if trip is still online but i found this:

Here...[http://www.howtoforge.com/IHLFS]http://www.howtoforge.com/ihlfs_full_control_over_what_youre_installing

He mentions that it is based on TRIP the same that you are talking about.
Maybe it helps.

if i get a hold of a copy of trip i will mail back to you.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM, michael kapelko korn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 I'd like to know if anyone can share the TRIvial Packager

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/package_management_using_trip.txt
 because it is no longer available at
 http://things.1000wallpaper.com/trip/trip.tar
 Thanks.
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Re: Error when trying make the kernel

2009-07-29 Thread Justin P. Mattock
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Justin P. Mattock wrote:

 Justin,
 Trim your posts to the minimum needed to reply.

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Alright.
(posting on lkml teaches me to do this)
I'll write a post-it note so I don't do this for
LFS.

Justin P. Mattock

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Re: Make a bootable LFS iso. [continued, part 2]

2009-07-29 Thread Robert A. Lerche
I ran my build and found one minor glitch: links to fetch tcl and
e2fsprogs from sourceforge have changed.

(If someone knows the right way to make a permanent sourceforge link,
please tell me. :-)

Here is a patch to fix it.  cd /mnt/newlfs/newlfs-livecd; patch -p0 
lfs-sourceforge-patch

lfs-sourceforge-patch
-

diff -Naur packages/e2fsprogs/Makefile updated-packages/e2fsprogs/Makefile
--- packages/e2fsprogs/Makefile 2009-04-14 21:57:02.0 -0700
+++ updated-packages/e2fsprogs/Makefile 2009-07-29 08:56:46.0 -0700
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 DIR= $(NM)-$(VRS)
 
 FILE= $(DIR).tar.gz
-URL-$(FILE)= 
http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/e2fsprogs/$(FILE)
+URL-$(FILE)= 
http://softlayer.dl.sourceforge.net/project/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs/$(VRS)/$(FILE)
 SHA-$(FILE)= d85f05b7bcef1adf8306a789f3ac0325c3c67e8d
 
 # Targets
diff -Naur packages/tcl/Makefile updated-packages/tcl/Makefile
--- packages/tcl/Makefile   2009-04-14 21:45:51.0 -0700
+++ updated-packages/tcl/Makefile   2009-07-29 08:56:18.0 -0700
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 DIR= $(NM)$(VRS)
 
 FILE= $(DIR)-src.tar.gz
-URL-$(FILE)= http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/tcl/$(FILE)
+URL-$(FILE)= http://softlayer.dl.sourceforge.net/project/tcl/Tcl/$(VRS)/$(FILE)
 SHA-$(FILE)= af0433feaa7be1da945a1f414c4b10485ffbd386
 
 # Targets


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Re: Share the TRIvial Packager please

2009-07-29 Thread RaptorX
I found the original trip.

http://www.mail-archive.com/hi...@linuxfromscratch.org/msg00378.html

Pierre changed his address and it was not updated in the lfs-hints page.

in that email you should get the new link and a better (cleaner) explanation
of his work.

good luck pal.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:08 PM, RaptorX grapt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not sure if trip is still online but i found this:

 Here...[http://www.howtoforge.com/IHLFS]http://www.howtoforge.com/ihlfs_full_control_over_what_youre_installing

 He mentions that it is based on TRIP the same that you are talking about.
 Maybe it helps.

 if i get a hold of a copy of trip i will mail back to you.


 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:37 PM, michael kapelko korn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello.
 I'd like to know if anyone can share the TRIvial Packager

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/downloads/files/package_management_using_trip.txt
 because it is no longer available at
 http://things.1000wallpaper.com/trip/trip.tar
 Thanks.
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Advice TRIP 0.3

2009-07-29 Thread RaptorX
While i have been searching for a package management system different from
the common ones thinking about security I tripped [pun not intended] on this
one...:

Trip 0.3 made by Pierre Hebert.
http://www.pierrox.net/trip/

I love the simplicity... its just a bash script that you can modify yourself
at any point which handles tar-balls. It provides a little better security
as far as I understand.

Now, I am not sure if i understand correctly but the main point is that he
uses unionfs to overlap the root system in read only mode and a temporal
mount called /mnt/pkg in which the packages will be temporally installed
using a command like:
 Code:

trip -i foopkg.tar.gz

Now what i dont get is if root is read only how does trip installs the
package?

also, why the need of a binary tar ball?
he says that you need to do:

 Code:

trip -b foo12.3

and then

 Code:

trip -i foo12.3.tar.bz

as I understand it will first Quote:
  create a package named foo12.3.tar.bz in the current directory,
containing the standard directory structure
which you will install, but I mean isnt it empty because you didnt specify
any sources...or I am missing something?

I would also like to know why did he mention this warning:

 Quote:
  WARNING : Trip wont work as expected if your system is based on several
file systems, for example / and /usr. In this case /usr will not be visible
inside /mnt/union and so a lot of things will probably not work. Work is in
progress to drop this limitation.
When he mentions *file systems* what do you think he means because as far as
I know / and /usr are folders of the same file system or I am missing
something there too?

Finally Im aware that he is using this mainly for LFS but I am thinking
[after finish reading Advanced Bash Scripting] on maybe expanding this
script to fit my needs on other distros and maybe generalize it so other
people can benefit of it!!

So, can you guys tell me your opinion on this approach, downfalls that you
might see, problems that he doesnt mention... [well, he does says that his
work is in beta and that bugs may be found] etc.

--
In an almost totally off topic

Is there a repository of just tarballs similar to ex. slackbuild
repository??

The reason being that as trip handles tarballs maybe I can modify the script
to search in a repository for a specific program that i want to download,
since he made it clear that *Trip is not RPM nor DPKG (to name only two).
It will not fetch packages automatically for you from internet.* but maybe
it is a good idea to at least point to a web page where it download the
sources that you are searching for!

Im thinking something as a:

 Code:

wget $1* http//foo.com/sources/

(sorry if there's any mistake there but Im a newbie in bash scripting, I
just have so many ideas that i cant put in to script that hopefully when i
finish with the ABS book it will be little better)

when you do something like

 Code:

trip -ds bash
[ds = download source, which is just made up as an example]

I hope to get some constructive criticism here

Thanks in advance guys!

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Re: Error when trying make the kernel

2009-07-29 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 07/29/09 10:58 CST:
 Justin,
Trim your posts to the minimum needed to reply.

To be honest, I've not been responding to lfs-support recently because
of all the top-posting and non-trimming going on there. Both bug the
sh*t out of me. Non-trimming because I have to scroll down hundreds of
lines to then try and find the new text, the top-posting because you
still have to scroll down to the end to see if there is additional
material after the quoted stuff.

I'd bet you guys asking questions over there would get a whole lot
more advice to your issues if you just followed those two simple
net-etiquette requests.

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LFS-6.5-RC2 released

2009-07-29 Thread Matthew Burgess
Hi,

The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of
LFS Version 6.5 Release Candidate 2. This release includes numerous
changes from LFS-6.4 (including updates to Linux-2.6.30.2, GCC-4.4.1,
and Glibc-2.10.1) and security fixes. It also includes editorial work on
the explanatory material throughout the book, improving both the clarity
and accuracy of the text.

You can read the book online[0], or download to read locally [1].

It is our intention to release LFS-6.5 final within 1 week.  Please
direct any comments about this release to the LFS development team at
lfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org. Please note that registration for the
lfs-dev mailing list is required to avoid junk email.

[0] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.5-rc2/
[1] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/6.5-rc2/

Regards,

Matt.

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