How to skip two settings
Hi, When system starting, there are two settings, namely 'regional settings' and 'edit settings', at which the process of starting will pause and I have to press enter key twice to finish them. Is there any configurations by which I can skip them automatically every time. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: priority in install of packages
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:23 -0400, Neal Murphy wrote: To be absolutely clear, and to directly answer the question, yes, it is a problem because Expect will fail to compile if the TCL programs and libraries are not found. Or worse, will find the chapter 5 versions of those programs libraries in /tools, hardcode references to them, and break one /tools is deleted in the future. Simon. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: priority in install of packages
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 21:45 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: In appendex (Dependency section), we have 2 part for each package: The appendix is for information only. When it comes to installing packages, follow the *exact* instructions in the main book, in the *exact* order they're in. Simon. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to skip two settings
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:34:34 +0800 Parmenides mobile.parmeni...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, When system starting, there are two settings, namely 'regional settings' and 'edit settings', at which the process of starting will pause and I have to press enter key twice to finish them. Is there any configurations by which I can skip them automatically every time. This is in which part of the boot?? BIOS, Grub, Linux? Virtual machine? Other OS-es bootloader? Something else? -AKuktin -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Cannot execute grub-install
Hey y'all, i've recently passed all prior steps of chapter 8.4.2 (LFS 6.6). But now, without any error messages, I'm not able to execute grub-install --grub-setup=/bin/true /dev/sda. grub-install can be found and sda is the system's hdd but the system doesn't confirm the command. Nothing happens. The only thing I can do is Ctrl+C. Does someone else have the same problem or can give me a hint? Many Thanks, Michael -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: priority in install of packages
I'm in top of Chapter 5. Constructing a Temporary System.At this chapter some package is introduced that we must compile them.My question is: Do they have Chapter priority in compile same listed in chapter?For example if i compile package 5.12.expet before 5.11.tcl, is it problem? It's possible, but without trying it it's hard to know for sure. The simplest, safest way to proceed is to simply follow the book, compiling the packages in the order the book gives you. Andy The order of the packages is carefully crafted to make sure prerequisites are built in the correct order. See the appendix for each packages dependencies. For instance, expect requires tcl. When we had a choice for the next package, it is added alphabetically, but there is really no reason to deviate from the order given in the book. You may, of course, do what pleases you, but be prepared to start over if it doesn't work. -- Bruce I think there is an assumption being made that everybody around the world would automagically relate to books the way we native English speakers do. There are people who read books back to front. moh...@pahlevanzadeh.org It's clear Mohsen is not a native English speaker, and a minimal knowledge of world history suggests (without doing a host lookup) that pahlevanzadeh.org is a Persian/Iranian site. Obviously, because he asked the question, the book isn't clear enough to non-English speakers about the sequence of building. Saying Follow book, book good isn't helpful when one doesn't grasp, for cultural or linguistic reasons, what you mean by follow. -- Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm http://www.xprt.net/~pgrogers/ Rogers' Second Law: Everything you do communicates. (I do not personally endorse any additions after this line. TANSTAAFL :-) -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to skip two settings
On 06/16/2010 05:34 AM, Parmenides wrote: Hi, When system starting, there are two settings, namely 'regional settings' and 'edit settings', at which the process of starting will pause and I have to press enter key twice to finish them. Is there any configurations by which I can skip them automatically every time. An LFS system does not ask you anything (except to login) when you boot. This sounds like you're using the livecd, in which case you cannot change the startup procedure without rebuilding a new CD. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: priority in install of packages
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 22:54 +1200, Simon Geard wrote: On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 21:45 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: In appendex (Dependency section), we have 2 part for each package: The appendix is for information only. When it comes to installing packages, follow the *exact* instructions in the main book, in the *exact* order they're in. Simon. Dear Simon, Do you mean i follow exact same book 5-1 5-2 and 5-end ? --Mohsen -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to skip two settings
2010/6/16 Chris Staub ch...@beaker67.com: On 06/16/2010 05:34 AM, Parmenides wrote: Hi, When system starting, there are two settings, namely 'regional settings' and 'edit settings', at which the process of starting will pause and I have to press enter key twice to finish them. Is there any configurations by which I can skip them automatically every time. An LFS system does not ask you anything (except to login) when you boot. This sounds like you're using the livecd, in which case you cannot change the startup procedure without rebuilding a new CD. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Yes, this is the effect of a live CD indeed. But, I have clone the live CD onto a partition of hard disk, and tried to altenate some default settings of it. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: priority in install of packages
Paul Rogers wrote:
I think there is an assumption being made that everybody around the
world would automagically relate to books the way we native English
speakers do. There are people who read books back to front.
Not by me. My presumption was that he did have a problem knowing
what the different entries in the appendix exactly meant. That's
why I provided an explanation for one of them. I speak three languages
tolerably, myself, and English is not my first language (though my
first language is a european one, so left-to-right). At one time
I could somewhat get by in Arabic.
In any case, everyone who reads English has access to a dictionary,
and so can look up the word appendix. Be that as it may, he's
specifically mentioned that he knows he's deviating from the established
order.
moh...@pahlevanzadeh.org It's clear Mohsen is not a native English
speaker, and a minimal knowledge of world history suggests (without
Yes.
doing a host lookup) that pahlevanzadeh.org is a Persian/Iranian
site. Obviously, because he asked the question, the book isn't clear
enough to non-English speakers about the sequence of building. Saying
That I don't grasp. Anyone who reads English knows what direction
to read a book.
Follow book, book good isn't helpful when one doesn't grasp, for
cultural or linguistic reasons, what you mean by follow.
Agreed. That's why I presented an analysis of one of the appendix
entries.
Mike
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Re: How to skip two settings
On 06/16/2010 01:11 PM, Parmenides wrote: 2010/6/16 Chris Staubch...@beaker67.com: On 06/16/2010 05:34 AM, Parmenides wrote: Yes, this is the effect of a live CD indeed. But, I have clone the live CD onto a partition of hard disk, and tried to altenate some default settings of it. Well, the LiveCD simply isn't made for the purpose of being installed to a hard drive. If you want a Linux system on your hard drive you should just use it to build an LFS system. On the other hand, if you were installing the LiveCD to the hard drive in order to get around the time-consuming task of building LFS, you're much better off simply downloading and installing Ubuntu, Fedora, or some other distro. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: priority in install of packages
Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 22:54 +1200, Simon Geard wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 21:45 +0430, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
In appendex (Dependency section), we have 2 part for each package:
The appendix is for information only. When it comes to installing
packages, follow the *exact* instructions in the main book, in the
*exact* order they're in.
Simon.
Dear Simon,
Do you mean i follow exact same book 5-1 5-2 and 5-end ?
You need to download a copy of the book from the web site,
so it doesn't change as you read it. You need to start at
the beginning of the book, and follow each instruction as
you encounter it. I'm reluctant to say follow it exactly
since some of them are not exact instructions. For example,
the instruction to partition the disc drive. No one can
put _exact_ instructions on how to partition your disc,
and different people have different ideas about how exactly
a disc should be set up.
That said, you need to start at the beginning, and perform
each step in the order you encounter it as you read,
and conform as closely as possible to the literal content
you read.
You need to do this each time you build, until you become
familiar enough with the process to know where, and by
how much, it is safe to deviate from the instructions
as they are written.
If you don't do that, then you are almost surely going to
encounter a problem somewhere along the way, likely requiring
you to start over from the beginning.
Mike
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Re: priority in install of packages
On 16 June 2010 17:43, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh moh...@pahlevanzadeh.org wrote: Dear Simon, Do you mean i follow exact same book 5-1 5-2 and 5-end ? --Mohsen I'm not Simon, but I'll answer anyway (even though Mike has probably answered most of the points while I was thinking about it). Begin at chapter 1 (section 1.1 - How To Build An LFS System). First, *read* each page in your browser, then click on the next link. Do this until you get to section 9 (The End). By doing this, you have read everything in the book before you start, so you'll have some idea how you are going to build the new system,. Then if you haven't already done so, download *all* the packages and patches, Then start again, but this time follow all the instructions, for each package in the book's order. If this goes well, you will end up with a minimal LFS system. You need to understand how the book is going to tell you build this system (for example, there is important information such as delete the source (and -build) directories after you have installed the package. The versions of the packages in a released version of the book are believed to work well together, and all of them are required. For your first build you should use the LFS-6.6 book. ĸen -- After tragedy, and farce, OMG poneys! -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to skip two settings
2010/6/17 Chris Staub ch...@beaker67.com: On 06/16/2010 01:11 PM, Parmenides wrote: 2010/6/16 Chris Staubch...@beaker67.com: On 06/16/2010 05:34 AM, Parmenides wrote: Yes, this is the effect of a live CD indeed. But, I have clone the live CD onto a partition of hard disk, and tried to altenate some default settings of it. Well, the LiveCD simply isn't made for the purpose of being installed to a hard drive. If you want a Linux system on your hard drive you should just use it to build an LFS system. On the other hand, if you were installing the LiveCD to the hard drive in order to get around the time-consuming task of building LFS, you're much better off simply downloading and installing Ubuntu, Fedora, or some other distro. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page There are some excellent distro actually, but not my favourite. They will install many packages I do not need. What's more, I very like a clean and fast linux and the console mode is enough. So, I choose the LFS. Additionally, the LFS give me a chance to get familiar with Linux more and more. Actually, I want to configure a virtual Linux running on VMWare and play a server's role. But, the default settings make automatical boot impossible. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to skip two settings
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 16:23:09 Parmenides wrote: There are some excellent distro actually, but not my favourite. They will install many packages I do not need. What's more, I very like a clean and fast linux and the console mode is enough. So, I choose the LFS. Additionally, the LFS give me a chance to get familiar with Linux more and more. Actually, I want to configure a virtual Linux running on VMWare and play a server's role. But, the default settings make automatical boot impossible. What you are looking to change is 'hidden' inside the initramfs/initrd. For the purpose of learning, you can unpack the LiveCD, disassemble it, unpack the initramfs (or initrd, whichever it uses), adjust it as you desire, repack it and repack the CD (or pack it into a hard drive partition or image file for VMware/QEMU/etc.) I've done this many times while tweaking Smoothwall until I finally got udev and the initramfs archive to work as I wanted them to (read: learned how udev and initramfs really work). I did this with both the ISO image and tweaking the early boot stuff on the hard drive. Only unfamiliarity prevents you from unpacking the live CD and fiddling with it until it does what you want. Using the live CD is not optimal, but it can't be beat for hands-on learning. Once you dive into that, though, you are kind-of on your own; not many people grok isolinux, initramfs/initrd, and the early boot environment, and it's way outside of building Linux from scratch. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to skip two settings
Thanks for your clue to learn. It seems be necessary to modify ramdisk and they deserve more efforts. 2010/6/17 Neal Murphy neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu: On Wednesday 16 June 2010 16:23:09 Parmenides wrote: There are some excellent distro actually, but not my favourite. They will install many packages I do not need. What's more, I very like a clean and fast linux and the console mode is enough. So, I choose the LFS. Additionally, the LFS give me a chance to get familiar with Linux more and more. Actually, I want to configure a virtual Linux running on VMWare and play a server's role. But, the default settings make automatical boot impossible. What you are looking to change is 'hidden' inside the initramfs/initrd. For the purpose of learning, you can unpack the LiveCD, disassemble it, unpack the initramfs (or initrd, whichever it uses), adjust it as you desire, repack it and repack the CD (or pack it into a hard drive partition or image file for VMware/QEMU/etc.) I've done this many times while tweaking Smoothwall until I finally got udev and the initramfs archive to work as I wanted them to (read: learned how udev and initramfs really work). I did this with both the ISO image and tweaking the early boot stuff on the hard drive. Only unfamiliarity prevents you from unpacking the live CD and fiddling with it until it does what you want. Using the live CD is not optimal, but it can't be beat for hands-on learning. Once you dive into that, though, you are kind-of on your own; not many people grok isolinux, initramfs/initrd, and the early boot environment, and it's way outside of building Linux from scratch. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Cannot execute grub-install
Michael Vahl wrote: Hey y'all, i've recently passed all prior steps of chapter 8.4.2 (LFS 6.6). But now, without any error messages, I'm not able to execute grub-install --grub-setup=/bin/true /dev/sda. grub-install can be found and sda is the system's hdd but the system doesn't confirm the command. Nothing happens. The only thing I can do is Ctrl+C. Does someone else have the same problem or can give me a hint? Do you have /dev poopulated according to section 6.2.2? What grub-install does though is copy files to /boot/grub. Is that happening? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
LVM2
I am looking for help installing lfs on logical volumes. The only information I could find was from 2009 and used a version of lvm2 that is no longer available also the only patch is for this version LVM2.2.02.53 I made an attempt to install lfs and got to the kernel were I not able to compile the kernel sources. A little background I have been using linux since about 1997 and I now use gentoo on all my machines I was looking at lfs to install on my hp mini 311 with an atom processor I have gentoo booting from an external usb hard drive and was hoping to do a lfs installation in the same manner also do I need a 2 to 3 g partition for the / directory or a 10 g partition the reason I ask is my gentoo / partition is 750 m and my partition layout for lfs on lvm would be. I thank you for your time / /usr /usr/local /usr/src /var /var/tmp /tmp /opt /opt/playground (For applications like arduino eclipse and others) /home -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
