Re: [lfs-support] Broken link on "lfs-support Info Page"

2013-07-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 09:20:24PM +0100, Jeremy Henty wrote:
> 
> The link "lfs-support Archives"
> (http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/) in "lfs-support
> Info Page" (http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support/)
> returns "Page not found!".
> 
> Hang on, I guess that before I  report this I should check the mailing
> list archives ... **STACK LIMIT EXCEEDED**

 Not (yet) restored after the server migration.

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Re: [lfs-support] Any reason to run "loadkeys" before building Linux?

2013-07-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:20:23PM +0200, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> On 2013-07-29 22:10, Jeremy Henty wrote:
> > 
> > My build scripts for Linux run
> > 
> > loadkeys -v -m /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/uk.map.gz > \
> > drivers/char/defkeymap.c
> > 
> > before running make.  I am 99% sure that I copied that command from an
> > old LFS, but the current version has no such instruction.  Does anyone
> > know why  this changed?   Does running  "loadkeys" do  anything useful
> > these days?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Jeremy Henty
> > 
> I use it when running in text screens (when there is no graphical window
> manager / desktop environment.
> 
> Best regards
> Nio

 In a normal LFS system, the LFS bootscripts will set up the
keyboard (if you configured the console).  Without that, ISTR that a
system will come up (if you aren't using a login manager) with a USA
keymap.  I think the invocation during the kernel build was for when
things went wrong (filesystem damage) or for using init=/bin/bash.
I think using init=/bin/bash on a keyboard far distant from the
american layout (e.g. QWERTZ or AZERTY) might be painful, but for
normal recovery most people probably use a rescue CD or chroot from
another install.

 I also have a vague memory that something in this area of the
kernel might have changed - probably during the 2.6 timeframe - but
I'm probably mistaken!

 For a GB keyboard, the US console keymap is not _too_ far off.  I
use my own uk variant (extra unicode, very different Compose -
somewhat similar to en_GB Xorg for the accents - it's in ~/ken at
lfs), and I don't remember if the default map has mappings for the
pipe : I think it does, but not sure (AltGr something).  # is of
course on £, @ and " swap places.  The \| key (to left of Z) is not
operational in the US map - it's an extra key.

 Of course, mostly I live in Xorg and urxvt - I only really use the
keyboard on my server occasionally - and *that* has an american
keyboard, but with uk mappings (previous keyboard broke!) so the \|
key is physically missing :)  Can't check the map at the moment, I'm
using my netbook which doesn't have my own keymap.

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Re: [blfs-support] Error in Junit installation instructions?

2013-07-29 Thread David B.
On 29/07/13 15:25, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> We need a url that can be used with wget.  I couldn't find one at junit.org.

Will this do the job?

https://github.com/junit-team/junit/archive/r4.11.tar.gz

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Re: [lfs-support] Any reason to run "loadkeys" before building Linux?

2013-07-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-07-29 22:10, Jeremy Henty wrote:
> 
> My build scripts for Linux run
> 
> loadkeys -v -m /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/uk.map.gz > \
> drivers/char/defkeymap.c
> 
> before running make.  I am 99% sure that I copied that command from an
> old LFS, but the current version has no such instruction.  Does anyone
> know why  this changed?   Does running  "loadkeys" do  anything useful
> these days?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeremy Henty
> 
I use it when running in text screens (when there is no graphical window
manager / desktop environment.

Best regards
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[lfs-support] Broken link on "lfs-support Info Page"

2013-07-29 Thread Jeremy Henty

The link "lfs-support Archives"
(http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/) in "lfs-support
Info Page" (http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support/)
returns "Page not found!".

Hang on, I guess that before I  report this I should check the mailing
list archives ... **STACK LIMIT EXCEEDED**
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[lfs-support] Any reason to run "loadkeys" before building Linux?

2013-07-29 Thread Jeremy Henty

My build scripts for Linux run

loadkeys -v -m /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/uk.map.gz > \
drivers/char/defkeymap.c

before running make.  I am 99% sure that I copied that command from an
old LFS, but the current version has no such instruction.  Does anyone
know why  this changed?   Does running  "loadkeys" do  anything useful
these days?

Regards,

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Re: [lfs-support] make: gcc: Command not found - chap. 6.7.1

2013-07-29 Thread Unix User


>root:/sources/linux-3.10.2# make mrproper
>>make: gcc: Command not found
>
>When you encounter issues like these, don't rely on ldd.
>
>
>Rely on readelf.
>
>
>readelf -e /tools/bin/gcc | grep interpreter
>
>
>or any other binary.
>
>
>Especially when cross compiling, ldd isn't valid. Learn to use readelf.
>
>
>If you know what the output should be when looking for the interpreter, you'll 
>be better off.
>
>
>Usually if your interpreter is wrong with gcc or binutils after chroot, it 
>means that gcc source and/or build directories were not removed before the 
>next build.


Dear William,

ok, thank you also for your information! New manpage(s) to read.^^

Thanks,
Seba

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Re: [lfs-support] make: gcc: Command not found - chap. 6.7.1

2013-07-29 Thread William Harrington


On Jul 28, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Unix User wrote:


root:/sources/linux-3.10.2# make mrproper
make: gcc: Command not found


When you encounter issues like these, don't rely on ldd.

Rely on readelf.

readelf -e /tools/bin/gcc | grep interpreter

or any other binary.

Especially when cross compiling, ldd isn't valid. Learn to use readelf.

If you know what the output should be when looking for the  
interpreter, you'll be better off.


Usually if your interpreter is wrong with gcc or binutils after  
chroot, it means that gcc source and/or build directories were not  
removed before the next build.


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