Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

2013-08-17 Thread Unix User


Hi


  2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as 
 a base that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host 
 requirements 
 page (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html) 
 as 
 all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo, 
 etc) all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while others 
 on 
 GCC, a package I suspect to be rather important in this endeavour.
 
 I'd say some Debian or Gentoo LiveCD works fine. At the starting of the 
 book,
 you'll be able to check wether you have host prerequisities and, otherwise, 
 install
 the needed. Ubuntu seems to cause, sometimes, issues, but maybe things have 
 changed.

Indeed, using Ubuntu as host system you will see /bin/sh - /bin/dash in 
version-check output (host system requirements). Since you will encounter 
errors using dash shell you really want to change from dash to bash - as you 
can read in the archive [1] I had to learn it, too. 

[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lfs.support/37167

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

2013-08-17 Thread Philippe Delavalade
Le vendredi 16 août à 20:46, inquiring.m...@hushmail.com a écrit :
 Hello all,

 1. I just saw the LFS site and would like to try it but can't see the
 section that says how to download the source file packages ready to work
 through the programme.

Hi.

To buld LFS, a minimal knowledge about linux is required. You should know
how to get the packages :-)

 2. I'd also like to know which LIVE CD/DVD you can recommend to use as a
 base that satisfies all the criteria from the script on the host
 requirements page
 (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/prologue/hostreqs.html)
 as all the distro's I've chosen (major ones like Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo,
 etc) all fail on one or more element. Some of them fail on BISON while
 others on GCC, a package I suspect to be rather important in this
 endeavour.

The grml livecd based on debian was fine except you had to change from zsh
to bash but I don't know about it now. Have a look at http://grml.org/

 3. I recently bought a new computer with no OS on it just for installing
 Linux on it and learning more about it so LFS seemed to be ideal. It's a
 new platform with UEFI instead of the older BIOS a 3TB HDD. I read that
 on drives like this, the old fdisk tool is insufficient but the only
 instructions I've seen in the manual are for the older, fdisk
 programme. I read something about needing to install a FAT32 partition at
 the start or something like that but wasn't sure if this was right or not
 as I know that FS is quite different to any *nix based filesystems.

You need gdisk.

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Re: [lfs-support] Newbie

2013-08-17 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:32:57 -0500
William Harrington kb0...@berzerkula.org wrote:

 
 On Aug 16, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote:
 
  As stated above, you can use the LFS live CD although it is rather  
  old.
 
 Can't build current LFS with LFS 6.3 livecd. That's why I've updated  
 it. But that will soon come to an end with gcc-4.8.x targets.
 
 the 6.3 livecd uses gcc 4.1.2 which has no Wno-narrowing and another  
 variable which causes issues when cross compiling.
 
 I'd need to update the livecd to at least gcc 4.4 or 4.5 to get rid
 of it, not a problem, just letting you know.
 
 A new LFS livecd needs to be available, or get rid of it and have a  
 wiki for people to look toward to hosts that work wtih LFS and the  
 commands required to get them to the point if they don't meet the
 host system requirements.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 William Harrington

I had a general idea that there are people who maintain the livecd, but
I didn't know much more about it.

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