Re: [lfs-support] Brand new and confused. Mostly about the 7.5 book.

2014-03-31 Thread Simon Geard
On Sun, 2014-03-30 at 18:14 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Ken Moffat wrote:
  /usr : A separate /usr is a very old idea.  Useful if you are on a
  network where /usr is an nfs mount shared by several machines.  I'm
  sure there are other use cases, but I can't think of any at the
  moment.  For most of us, giving /usr on its own filesystem makes no
  sense.
 
 We still support the capability, although I agree that it's not very 
 common any more.  I haven't done it in many years.

I think it made sense back when disk was more expensive... when a
gigabyte was a crazy-big number. But now, when a full desktop weighs in
at about 1% of the capacity of the cheapest disk? Not so much...

Much easier to use some kind of imaging process now, if you need a bunch
of identical machines...

Simon.

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Re: [lfs-support] Brand new and confused. Mostly about the 7.5 book.

2014-03-31 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 14:57:22 -0700
Al Szymanski a...@mac.com wrote:

 Thank you all for your rapid responses. In specific, Aleksandar asked:
  Are these numbers your own estimates, or did you pick them up
  somewhere? I'm asking because they overestimate. 
 
 These numbers came directly from the 7.5 book; 2.2.1.1. through
 2.2.1.3 : pages 12 and 13.

Aha, OK. I see it now.

Ever since I built my system for the third time, I have been rarely
looking at the book. Especially after 7.0.

The list in 2.2.1.3. and the recomendation in 2.2.1.1. are, in
principle, mutually exclusive. A ~10GB root partition from 2.2.1.1.
includes within itself a 5GB /usr, a 5GB /opt and a couple of
GB /tmp. /bin, /lib and friends in / are rarely heavier than
200-300MB and can therefore be ignored in this calculation.

10GB for system, that is, everything excluding /home, whereever you
keep your sources and possibly the build dir, should be quite enough.

 On a related topic : if I find an error in the 7.5 book, to whom
 should the notice go? In the process of downloading each of the
 required parts, I found that the source site for Bzip2 failed. I used
 the Google code search and found it just fine. I also created a curl
 script to make the downloading mostly a bulk job with the exceptions
 of the files that come from SourceForge - can't curl them. Al

I think lfs-support is good, but lfs-dev may be better. If you don't
mind being on two mail-lists (and your mail program can handle it with
reasonable ease), lfs-dev is better.

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[lfs-support] Linux From Scratch - Version SVN-20140328 6.22. Attr-2.4.47 Multiple failures on tests

2014-03-31 Thread Robin
If I run 'make tests root-tests' I get 65 failures.
Running the tests separately i.e. 'make tests'  then  'make
root-tests'  and all tests were successful.

My MAKEFLAGS='-j 4' if that is signicant.

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