Re: NFS Boot

2010-01-18 Thread Jan-Christoph Bornschlegel
Am Sonntag 17 Januar 2010 17:10:38 schrieb Mikie:
 I'm a 46 year old IT and Automation professional.

 I have people from business, government, and education (small  schools)
 screaming for an alternatives to Windows.
 The malware is disrupting everyone these days and people are drowning.

 It's to the point where we can't keep a working PC on people's desktops.

 I want to develop a solution whereby PC's can be booted from a PXE NFS
 server to get Linux with a Firefox browser so peeps can migrate to web
 based business apps, web based email, and Microsoft terminal servers for
 those Microsoft apps that can't be replaced with web versions (via a
 Linux RDP client).

You might be interested in another project:
http://kiwi.berlios.de/
http://en.opensuse.org/Kiwi

This project has a solution for exactly that situation, quite some good 
documentation and a vivid and helpful ML and IRC[1] channels. The tradeoff is 
that it is designed for RPM based distros.

Some usecases were PoS (terminals) and preloads and there are a lot of 
examples available.

Cheers,
Jan
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RE: NFS Boot

2010-01-17 Thread Mikie
Just my opinion, but the questions you have been asking the last few
weeks just scream of a school project. If it is, you would be better
off figuring this stuff out yourself. If not, disregard my message.

If it weren't that I navigated to your website and found
Would you like Closet Rambo to come out of the Closet and open a
six pack-O-whoop ass on you? and that you apparently are a big
gamer, it just fits the student profile to me.

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[K. Mike Bradley] 

I'm a 46 year old IT and Automation professional.

I have people from business, government, and education (small  schools)
screaming for an alternatives to Windows.
The malware is disrupting everyone these days and people are drowning.

It's to the point where we can't keep a working PC on people's desktops.

I want to develop a solution whereby PC's can be booted from a PXE NFS
server to get Linux with a Firefox browser so peeps can migrate to web
based business apps, web based email, and Microsoft terminal servers for
those Microsoft apps that can't be replaced with web versions (via a
Linux RDP client).

... and yes I do play games to end my day.

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RE: NFS Boot

2010-01-17 Thread Mikie
Maybe that you want: http://www.ltsp.org/

[K. Mike Bradley] 

This would require servers and I want to be able to drop one or more cheap PC's 
around the networks and run all on the client.

 

Thanks though.

 

 

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Re: NFS Boot

2010-01-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On 16/01/10 16:34, Mikie wrote:
 Hello,

 I am converting my LFS to NFS boot by coping files to the NFS root.

 My question is:

 Would it be better to create a local hard drive swap and file system for
 certain root dir?


It would be easier for / to be on a local filesystem, that way you have 
all your networking tools available and you don't need to create an initrd

 Should Tmp  be local rather than on the NFS root?


Personally I mount a tmpfs on /tmp it stays in ram and disappears on reboot

Andy
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RE: NFS Boot

2010-01-16 Thread Mikie
I will have 100 PC's booting PXE from an NFS root.
That is the goal.

The reason is so I won't have to maintain 100 PC's but rather an image
on one server.
I am trying to understand what part of the file system should be on the
image (under NFS root) and what should be on the local hard drive.

Thanks.

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Re: NFS Boot

2010-01-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mikie wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am converting my LFS to NFS boot by coping files to the NFS root.
 
 My question is:
 
 Would it be better to create a local hard drive swap and file system for
 certain root dir?
 
 Should Tmp  be local rather than on the NFS root?
 
 Any suggestions on what to keep local would help.

Unless you are trying to create a completely diskless workstation, I'd 
recommend putting /bin, /boot, /dev, /etc, /lib, /root, /sbin, and swap 
on the local system.

5.3M/bin
59M /boot
64K /dev
19M /etc
16M /lib
62M /root
5.7M/sbin

That could probably be tightened up by removing some files from /root 
and /boot and stripping binaries and libraries.

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Re: NFS Boot

2010-01-16 Thread Randy McMurchy
Mikie wrote these words on 01/16/10 11:19 CST:
 I will have 100 PC's booting PXE from an NFS root.
 That is the goal.
 
 The reason is so I won't have to maintain 100 PC's but rather an image
 on one server.
 I am trying to understand what part of the file system should be on the
 image (under NFS root) and what should be on the local hard drive.

Just my opinion, but the questions you have been asking the last few
weeks just scream of a school project. If it is, you would be better
off figuring this stuff out yourself. If not, disregard my message.

If it weren't that I navigated to your website and found
Would you like Closet Rambo to come out of the Closet and open a
six pack-O-whoop ass on you? and that you apparently are a big
gamer, it just fits the student profile to me.

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Re: NFS Boot

2010-01-16 Thread Michael Tsang
On Sunday 17 January 2010 00:34:00 Mikie wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am converting my LFS to NFS boot by coping files to the NFS root.
 
 My question is:
 
 Would it be better to create a local hard drive swap and file system for
 certain root dir?
 
 Should Tmp  be local rather than on the NFS root?
 
 Any suggestions on what to keep local would help.
 
 Thanks.
 

I recommend you to put 
/home
/usr
on the NFS and other things on an initramfs. Then you can configure init to 
probe for an IP address automatically and you can create a diskless 
workstation with / mounted on initramfs


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Re: NFS Boot

2010-01-16 Thread Dominic Ringuet
Maybe that you want: http://www.ltsp.org/
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