Re: [lfs-support] DBus-Broker
On March 1, 2020, at 16:26, Scott Andrews wrote: > >On 3/1/20 4:54 PM, Rob wrote: >> Ken Moffat wrote: >> Do you have links to whatever speed or other efficiency this package >> provides ? As a user of the sysvinit books I've never found DBus to >> be an obvious cause of pain or "ooh, this is so slow!" thoughts. >> >> >> All I have is word on the street. I'm no kind of analyst or >> benchmark expert. >> I know Fedora is using it >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DbusBrokerAsTheDefaultDbusImplementation >> which is my main source without branching into the wilds of Reddit. >> People I talk to on other lists say some services are faster. >> Just wondered if this project had been given consideration for inclusion. >I think is works only for systems with systemd. >Non starter for me. I may not need dbus if I am successful building lumina. >The requirements for dbus-broker are: > Linux kernel >= 4.14 (>=4.10 works, but lacks important > security-related AF_UNIX patches) > glibc >= 2.16 > libaudit >= 2.7 (optional) > libselinux >= 2.5 (optional) >Additionally, the compatibility launcher requires: > systemd >= 230 > expat >= 2.2 >At build-time, the following software is required: > meson >= 0.44 > pkg-config >= 0.29 > python-docutils >= 0.13 > linux-api-headers >= 4.13 > dbus >= 1.10 (optional: only for tests) >-- >http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support >FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html >Unsubscribe: See the above information page >Do not top post on this list. >A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >A: Top-posting. >Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style I'm getting that it's not simply the reference implementation that we've been using. I don't see any reason to add it to LFS. BLFS might benefit though. Flareon Zulu-- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
Re: [lfs-support] DBus-Broker
On 3/1/20 4:54 PM, Rob wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Do you have links to whatever speed or other efficiency this package provides ? As a user of the sysvinit books I've never found DBus to be an obvious cause of pain or "ooh, this is so slow!" thoughts. All I have is word on the street. I'm no kind of analyst or benchmark expert. I know Fedora is using it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DbusBrokerAsTheDefaultDbusImplementation which is my main source without branching into the wilds of Reddit. People I talk to on other lists say some services are faster. Just wondered if this project had been given consideration for inclusion. I think is works only for systems with systemd. Non starter for me. I may not need dbus if I am successful building lumina. The requirements for dbus-broker are: Linux kernel >= 4.14 (>=4.10 works, but lacks important security-related AF_UNIX patches) glibc >= 2.16 libaudit >= 2.7 (optional) libselinux >= 2.5 (optional) Additionally, the compatibility launcher requires: systemd >= 230 expat >= 2.2 At build-time, the following software is required: meson >= 0.44 pkg-config >= 0.29 python-docutils >= 0.13 linux-api-headers >= 4.13 dbus >= 1.10 (optional: only for tests) -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
Re: [lfs-support] DBus-Broker
Ken Moffat wrote: Do you have links to whatever speed or other efficiency this package provides ? As a user of the sysvinit books I've never found DBus to be an obvious cause of pain or "ooh, this is so slow!" thoughts. All I have is word on the street. I'm no kind of analyst or benchmark expert. I know Fedora is using it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DbusBrokerAsTheDefaultDbusImplementation which is my main source without branching into the wilds of Reddit. People I talk to on other lists say some services are faster. Just wondered if this project had been given consideration for inclusion. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
Re: [lfs-support] DBus-Broker
On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 01:38:52PM -0600, Rob wrote: > Are we considering switching from traditional DBus to this > implementation? I'm told many distros are switching over, that this one > is faster and more efficient. > What says LFS? Do you have links to whatever speed or other efficiency this package provides ? As a user of the sysvinit books I've never found DBus to be an obvious cause of pain or "ooh, this is so slow!" thoughts. ĸen -- We hope and trust that our valued and loyal customers will bear with us in the coming months as we interact synergistically with change management in our striving for excellence. That is our mission. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
Re: [lfs-support] DBus-Broker
On 3/1/20 1:38 PM, Rob wrote: Are we considering switching from traditional DBus to this implementation? I'm told many distros are switching over, that this one is faster and more efficient. What says LFS? We would really need a lot of testing and documentation. What is the URL? Faster for what? What is slowed down with the current version? -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
[lfs-support] DBus-Broker
Are we considering switching from traditional DBus to this implementation? I'm told many distros are switching over, that this one is faster and more efficient. What says LFS? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
[lfs-support] LFS and BLFS Version 9.1 are released
The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of LFS Version 9.1, LFS Version 9.1 (systemd), BLFS Version 9.1, and BLFS Version 9.1 (systemd). This release is a major update to both LFS and BLFS. The LFS release includes updates to glibc-2.31, and binutils-2.34. A total of 35 packages have been updated. A new package, zstd-1.4.4, has also been added. Changes to text have been made throughout the book. The Linux kernel has also been updated to version 5.5.3. The BLFS version includes approximately 1000 packages beyond the base Linux From Scratch Version 9.1 book. This release has over 840 updates from the previous version in addition to numerous text and formatting changes. Thanks for this release goes to many contributors. Notably: Douglas Reno DJ Lucas Ken Moffat Thomas Trepl Pierre Labastie Tim Tassonis Xi Ruoyao You can read the books online[0]-[3], or download[4]-[7] to read locally. Please direct any comments about this release to the LFS development team at lfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org or blfs-...@linuxfromscratch.org. Registration for the mailing lists is required to avoid junk email. -- Bruce Dubbs LFS [0] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/9.1/ [1] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/9.1/ [2] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/9.1-systemd/ [3] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/9.1-systemd/ [4] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/9.1/ [5] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/9.1/ [6] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/9.1-systemd/ [7] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/downloads/9.1-systemd/ -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
