Re: [liberationtech] Frei PiratenPartei

2013-05-17 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:18:09PM +, andreas.ba...@nachtpult.de wrote:

 I am a Member of the Piraten in Germany.
 Let me answer with a question. Do you really think a party like that has a 
 chance in the USA?

Failure is default if you never try.
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Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Accesses Skype Chats

2013-05-17 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 09:14:19PM +0530, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
 Heise Security is reporting that Microsoft accesses links sent over
 Skype chat.[1]

Everyone who thinks that's the *only* thing that Microsoft is quietly
doing behind everyone's back, raise your hand.

And incidentally, the proffered rationale for this doesn't fly, given
that (a) they're only sending HEAD: actually scanning destination URLs
for malware et.al. would require fetching the whole page and (b) they're
only retrieving HTTPS URLs (per Heise) which is not what someone actually
looking for malware would do.  Moreover (c) even if they classified
a URL as malicious, let's say https://example.net/blah, the recipient
of said URL is likely to access it via a data path outside their control,
thus -- unless they blocked it *inside* Skype -- they have no way to
prevent access to it and delivery of whatever malware payload awaits.

Source code is truth; all the rest is smoke and mirrors, hype and PR.
If Microsoft had the *slightest* interest in telling y'all the truth,
then they would have answered the group letter earlier this spring with
code, not with glib prose crafted by a committee of talented spokesliars.

---rsk

p.s. Heise's discovery is an existence proof that it's possible to
intercept the contents.  Therefore we must presume that other entities
besides Microsoft may have this capability -- doubly so given that some
of those entities have not only the resources, but the motivation.
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Re: [liberationtech] Frei PiratenPartei

2013-05-17 Thread Richard Brooks
We are unipolar:

We have the best government that money can buy.

Mark Twain



On 05/16/2013 10:33 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote:
 This whole list, and many others, and we even have at least a martyr
 in Aaron Swartz, are for the tenets of the Swedish Pirate Party. So!
 What do we do? Sit on our BUTS, and not do something else in the
 political arena? Are we bipolar (either Republican or Democrat), or
 multipolar, as in diversity?
 
 That's the question :D
 
 
 Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
 
 Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
 a...@acm.org
 +1 (817) 271-9619
 
 
 On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
 alps6...@gmail.com wrote:
 Correction: 34 people now! :D XD LMFAO
 Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,

 Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
 a...@acm.org
 +1 (817) 271-9619


 On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
 alps6...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, that shows 33 people subscribed to the Pirate Party email list in
 Texas, where I live! :D (there are 38 people in the US congressional
 delegation of Texas..) Let's try a different angle!
 Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,

 Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
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 +1 (817) 271-9619


 On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Scott Elcomb pse...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
 alps6...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there something like this in the US?

 http://www.piratenpartei.de/

 It's been awhile since last I looked in on the US Pirates - I
 should've before posting my earlier response.

 Anyway, I'm happy to see that it's growing; you can find them here:
 http://www.uspirates.org/

 Best
 --
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   @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github  more

   Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems
   http://code.google.com/p/atomos/

   Member of the Pirate Party of Canada
   http://www.pirateparty.ca/
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Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Accesses Skype Chats

2013-05-17 Thread Jon Camfield
On 05/17/2013 07:31 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 09:14:19PM +0530, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
 Heise Security is reporting that Microsoft accesses links sent over
 Skype chat.[1]
 
 Everyone who thinks that's the *only* thing that Microsoft is quietly
 doing behind everyone's back, raise your hand.
 
 And incidentally, the proffered rationale for this doesn't fly, given
 that (a) they're only sending HEAD: actually scanning destination URLs
 for malware et.al. would require fetching the whole page and (b) they're
 only retrieving HTTPS URLs (per Heise) which is not what someone actually
 looking for malware would do.

Let me address (b) first - I want to clarify that there is HEAD scanning
on HTTP URLs, *not just HTTPS*.

This comes from the same IP, with a 2-3 hour delay from posting in skype
to seeing in the logs:

65.52.100.214 - - [15/May/2013:09:16:33 -0700] HEAD /skype.html
HTTP/1.1 200 320 - -

I'm doing some follow-up tests to see if it follows redirects, links
posted without http:// or https:// , links without www.* and so on.
This could inform the utility of (a) (I'm arguing as a devil's advocate
here).  Given that MS might have an existing catalog of malware sites
and/or a separate method for finding new ones; this HEAD scanning may be
looking for new, unknown redirects to known malware sites. (However,
this wouldn't find in-page redirects or javascript redirects/additions,
and a number of other popular malware/adspam distribution tools).

  Moreover (c) even if they classified
 a URL as malicious, let's say https://example.net/blah, the recipient
 of said URL is likely to access it via a data path outside their control,
 thus -- unless they blocked it *inside* Skype -- they have no way to
 prevent access to it and delivery of whatever malware payload awaits.

Skype does detect and activate links based on some regex-like system, so
it's remotely possible that this same process could have an overridden
link to a pass-through warning page/etc.

Also could be worth testing...

 
 Source code is truth; all the rest is smoke and mirrors, hype and PR.
 If Microsoft had the *slightest* interest in telling y'all the truth,
 then they would have answered the group letter earlier this spring with
 code, not with glib prose crafted by a committee of talented spokesliars.
 
 ---rsk
 
 p.s. Heise's discovery is an existence proof that it's possible to
 intercept the contents.  Therefore we must presume that other entities
 besides Microsoft may have this capability -- doubly so given that some
 of those entities have not only the resources, but the motivation.

It's also possible that the skype client is reporting these urls
separately from the content of a chat as part of its link-verification
and activation.  As you say, without the source, it's not really knowable.

More interesting, the IP is listed by ARIN as being from Redmond, which
means that at the very least, the URLs pass through the US and could be
subject to warrants, NSLs, and so forth; which is somewhat at odds with
the Skype-data-is-in-Luxembourg text from
http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/reporting/transparency/
:

What is Microsoft and Skype’s position on CALEA?
The U.S. law, Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, does
not apply to any of Microsoft’s services, including Skype, as Microsoft
is not a telecommunications carrier. Skype is an independent division
headquartered and operating under Luxembourg law.

J

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[liberationtech] Drone Warfare and Research Awareness Rally! 5/21 in White Plaza @ 12 PM!

2013-05-17 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Joshua Schott jdsch...@stanford.edu

Join ten Stanford student organizations for a rally in White Plaza on
Tuesday May 21st from 12 PM - 1 PM to raise awareness about the increasing
use of drone warfare throughout the Middle East, South Asia, Central Asia,
and Africa and the research being done at Stanford contributing to the
development of drones. The use of drones has inflicted severe hardship on
the subjected civilian populations of these regions particularly in
Pakistan, Afghanistan and Yemen. The use of drones has killed many
civilians (only 2% of drone victims are high level militant targets),
inflicted direct property damage, economic hardship, mental health
problems, inhibited education opportunities, impacted burial traditions and
willingness to attend funerals, harmed community trust, and impacted many
other economic, social and cultural activities. We cannot be silent on this
issue. Join us.

[image: Inline image 1]


For more information on drone warfare:
http://www.livingunderdrones.org/
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/category/projects/drone-data/
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/12/04/revealed-us-and-britain-launched-1200-
drone-strikes-in-recent-wars/
http://www.propublica.org/article/everything-we-know-so-far-about-drone
-strikes
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/armed-drones-afghanistan/
http://adamhudson.org/2012/11/12/obamas-first-term-record-of-militarism/
http://adamhudson.org/2012/07/23/u-s-expands-its-shadow-wars-in-africa/
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Re: [liberationtech] New Yorker debut's Aaron Swartz's 'Strongbox.'

2013-05-17 Thread The Doctor
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 My god, literally *everyone* lurks on libtech.
 
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Re: [liberationtech] New Yorker debut's Aaron Swartz's 'Strongbox.'

2013-05-17 Thread Mark Belinsky
Without taking sides on Strongbox, I made an easy interactive tutorial
on how to easily access it from a mobile so that journalists can take
a peek for themselves:
https://guardianproject.info/2013/05/16/strongbox/

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 Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote:
 Sarah Lai Stirland:

 My god, literally *everyone* lurks on libtech.

 currently sitting with six people who *all* lurk here,

 Hee hee hee.

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Re: [liberationtech] New Yorker debut's Aaron Swartz's 'Strongbox.'

2013-05-17 Thread Kevin Poulsen
That's awesome! But you write that the dot-onion can only be reached
from mobile Android devices. What about this?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onion-browser/id519296448?mt=8

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Mark Belinsky mark.belin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Without taking sides on Strongbox, I made an easy interactive tutorial
 on how to easily access it from a mobile so that journalists can take
 a peek for themselves:
 https://guardianproject.info/2013/05/16/strongbox/

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 Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote:
 Sarah Lai Stirland:

 My god, literally *everyone* lurks on libtech.

 currently sitting with six people who *all* lurk here,

 Hee hee hee.

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Re: [liberationtech] New Yorker debut's Aaron Swartz's 'Strongbox.'

2013-05-17 Thread Griffin Boyce
Kevin Poulsen k...@hacknet.com wrote:

 That's awesome! But you write that the dot-onion can only be reached
 from mobile Android devices. What about this?

 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onion-browser/id519296448?mt=8


  An Apple app is not the best option.  You could set up your own
customized tor2web service and serve the onion that way.  It seems more
practical long-term, since it can't be blocked by Apple or abused by a
developer.

best,
Griffin

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