[liberationtech] Burundi

2015-05-18 Thread Richard Brooks
We have noticed that Burundi bloggers are off-line. No
doubt related to the President's crack down after the
failed coup.

Does anyone have any news as to whether this silence is
due to:
-Internet blackout?
-Physical threat/imprisonment?
-Fear?
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Re: [liberationtech] Burundi

2015-05-18 Thread Brian Conley
The Burundians I am in contact with have not mentioned a new internet issue
since blocking of whatsapp and facebook which was easily circumvented with
the use of VPNs.

I last heard from my colleagues about 8 hours ago. At least one of them was
tweeting an hour ago.

There is definitely a climate of fear at the moment and a lack of access to
basic necessities in communities with large populations of opposition to
Nkurunziza.
On May 18, 2015 7:19 AM, Richard Brooks r...@g.clemson.edu wrote:

 We have noticed that Burundi bloggers are off-line. No
 doubt related to the President's crack down after the
 failed coup.

 Does anyone have any news as to whether this silence is
 due to:
 -Internet blackout?
 -Physical threat/imprisonment?
 -Fear?
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Re: [liberationtech] Burundi

2015-05-18 Thread Brian Conley
That may be so, but Burundians are definitely online, as I noted one whom I
know tweeting within the last hour or so.
On May 18, 2015 7:22 AM, Jorge SoydelBierzo berci...@soydelbierzo.com
wrote:


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 El 18/05/15 a las 16:22, Richard Brooks escribió:
  We have noticed that Burundi bloggers are off-line. No
  doubt related to the President's crack down after the
  failed coup.
 
  Does anyone have any news as to whether this silence is
  due to:
  -Internet blackout?
  -Physical threat/imprisonment?
  -Fear?

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Re: [liberationtech] Burundi

2015-05-18 Thread Jorge SoydelBierzo

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That's good news

El 18/05/15 a las 16:24, Brian Conley escribió:

 That may be so, but Burundians are definitely online, as I noted one
whom I know tweeting within the last hour or so.

 On May 18, 2015 7:22 AM, Jorge SoydelBierzo
berci...@soydelbierzo.com mailto:berci...@soydelbierzo.com wrote:


 Blackout, 4 days ago
https://twitter.com/BBCAfrica/status/598458138887585792


 El 18/05/15 a las 16:22, Richard Brooks escribió:
  We have noticed that Burundi bloggers are off-line. No
  doubt related to the President's crack down after the
  failed coup.

  Does anyone have any news as to whether this silence is
  due to:
  -Internet blackout?
  -Physical threat/imprisonment?
  -Fear?


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Re: [liberationtech] Burundi

2015-05-18 Thread Jorge SoydelBierzo

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Blackout, 4 days ago https://twitter.com/BBCAfrica/status/598458138887585792


El 18/05/15 a las 16:22, Richard Brooks escribió:
 We have noticed that Burundi bloggers are off-line. No
 doubt related to the President's crack down after the
 failed coup.

 Does anyone have any news as to whether this silence is
 due to:
 -Internet blackout?
 -Physical threat/imprisonment?
 -Fear?

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Re: [liberationtech] Whatsapp + textsecure?

2015-05-18 Thread Peter Micek
+1 to the question

As a related issue, at a recent event I raised whether Whatsapp or
textsecure could be a suitable replacement for SMS in interaction with
clients in mobile health programs. It seems like it could be a more
privacy-protecting technology to transmit sensitive health records than
SMS, if open whisper encryption really is implemented. However, those in
the field said that without a public API, whatsapp is not currently a
suitable SMS alternative.

Does anyone have more info on why/whether this assertion is true? Does
textsecure have this problem solved?

Thanks

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Brian Conley bri...@smallworldnews.tv
wrote:

 Anyone know with certainty whether whatsapp has actually implemented the
 textsecure encryption?

 There was big talk about this some months back but I haven't seen ajy
 update mention it nor is it mentioned in the playstore as a feature.

 Thanks

 Brian

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Re: [liberationtech] Whatsapp + textsecure?

2015-05-18 Thread Tom Ritter
There was a recent article that dug into it:
http://www.hackinsight.org/news,326.html

I would say there's several things that need improvement - but the
crypto is present... some of the time :)

-tom

On 18 May 2015 at 11:08, Brian Conley bri...@smallworldnews.tv wrote:
 Anyone know with certainty whether whatsapp has actually implemented the
 textsecure encryption?

 There was big talk about this some months back but I haven't seen ajy update
 mention it nor is it mentioned in the playstore as a feature.

 Thanks

 Brian


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Re: [liberationtech] Whatsapp + textsecure?

2015-05-18 Thread Joshua Kopstein

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IIRC Moxie mentioned something a while back about trying to implement
some kind of transparent encryption/key exchange for WhatsApp, but for
now there's really no telling what the app is actually doing

Until WA gets that and the ability to manually compare fingerprints,
Signal/Textsecure is far more trustworthy

On 05/18/2015 12:08 PM, Brian Conley wrote:

 Anyone know with certainty whether whatsapp has actually implemented
the textsecure encryption?


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[liberationtech] Whatsapp + textsecure?

2015-05-18 Thread Brian Conley
Anyone know with certainty whether whatsapp has actually implemented the
textsecure encryption?

There was big talk about this some months back but I haven't seen ajy
update mention it nor is it mentioned in the playstore as a feature.

Thanks

Brian
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Re: [liberationtech] Whatsapp + textsecure?

2015-05-18 Thread Frederic Jacobs
Hi Brian,

I can only encourage you to read the announcement of the partnership: 
https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp/ 
https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp/

As stated in the post:

 Your messages may already be encrypted

Messages are opportunistically encrypted (if both receiving and sending client 
support it).

 We’ll also be surfacing options for key verification in clients as the 
 protocol integrations are completed.

A partnership was announced, not a full deployment.

Best,

Frederic Jacobs https://twitter.com/FredericJacobs
(Developer Signal - Open Whisper Systems)

 On 18 May 2015, at 18:08, Brian Conley bri...@smallworldnews.tv wrote:
 
 Anyone know with certainty whether whatsapp has actually implemented the 
 textsecure encryption?
 
 There was big talk about this some months back but I haven't seen ajy update 
 mention it nor is it mentioned in the playstore as a feature.
 
 Thanks
 
 Brian
 
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Re: [liberationtech] Burundi

2015-05-18 Thread John Gaynard
Hi Brian,

The Burundians we are a little worried about belong to a group that call
themselves Yaga Burundi @YBurundi on Twitter with blog at
http://www.yaga-burundi.com/

An article in Le Monde gave them a pretty high profile just before
Nkurunziza came back

http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2015/05/14/au-burundi-la-tentative-de-coup-d-etat-en-direct-avec-les-blogueurs-de-yaga-burundi_4633538_3212.html#CJSoKA175JojfRed.99



Le 18/05/2015 16:23, Brian Conley a écrit :

 The Burundians I am in contact with have not mentioned a new internet
 issue since blocking of whatsapp and facebook which was easily
 circumvented with the use of VPNs.

 I last heard from my colleagues about 8 hours ago. At least one of
 them was tweeting an hour ago.

 There is definitely a climate of fear at the moment and a lack of
 access to basic necessities in communities with large populations of
 opposition to Nkurunziza.

 On May 18, 2015 7:19 AM, Richard Brooks r...@g.clemson.edu
 mailto:r...@g.clemson.edu wrote:

 We have noticed that Burundi bloggers are off-line. No
 doubt related to the President's crack down after the
 failed coup.

 Does anyone have any news as to whether this silence is
 due to:
 -Internet blackout?
 -Physical threat/imprisonment?
 -Fear?
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