Re: [liberationtech] Facebook: Building Global Community - What's your response to Mark Zuckerberg?
On 17/02/17 17:24, Thomas Delrue wrote: > On February 17, 2017 1:32:46 PM EST, Steven Clift > wrote: >> I invite everyone to read and comment on Mark Zuckerberg's important >> "Building Global Community" letter: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/buildingglobalcommunity >> >> This is a special Facebook Group I've created to connect lots of >> disparate communities for a unified conversation that I will share >> with my contacts at Facebook. >> >> You'll find a link to his letter and posts organized by the five key >> questions Mark asks and posts to share media reports and more: >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/buildingglobalcommunity/permalink/502366400151315/ >> >> Or jump straight to his letter: http://po.st/zuckglobal >> >> Also, while I don't have my first tele meeting with a foundation on >> this until next week, now seems like a good time to share >> E-Democracy's draft proposal for Local Civic Facebook Groups: >> http://po.st/civicfacebookgroupsgoogledoc >> >> Zuckerberg's letter highlights the absolutely vital role of "engaged >> leaders" creating "meaningful groups." E-Democracy's magic mix is >> supporting YOU - those leaders - in local communities working to >> create local community and civic life Facebook Groups that foster >> inclusive and supportive local online communities that foster civic >> engagement and informed communities. So, if you want to add your city >> to the list of the 22 cities with volunteer interest, email me - >> cl...@e-democracy.org - with "Civic Facebook Groups" in the subject >> line. We drafted most of this proposal in December, so we are ecstatic >> that Facebook's next mission is so well aligned with our scrappy work. >> >> Thanks, >> Steven Clift >> E-Democracy.org >> >> P.S. You can jump in deeper now (we are just getting started): >> > "Facebook guy tells world it needs to use more Facebook or face bad times", > is that roughly the right summary of his 'insights' or am I way off? > > -- > Thomas > (Sent from my mobile device, please forgive brevity or typos.) It seems as a joke if wouldn't be posted HERE, on *Liberation tech* mailing list: since when Facebook serves to the liberation of people!? I must be reading a lot of fake news about Facebook the last5 years? (and i think I'm getting short). So funny... My 1st impulse to answer this email was to simply put: One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor Surveillance where the Shadows lie. 99 -- Esta comunicación puede ser legal y/o ilegalmente recogida, almacenada y utilizada por distintos actores. Si duda sobre el contenido a compartir, evite enviarlo sin cifrar. -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?
me too On 05/02/17 10:45, Jorge SoydelBierzo wrote: > I agree > > > My take on this: > > - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all type >of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes into the >same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged so they can >be easily filtered. > > - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't it be >better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone could >start a discussion based on it. > > My 2 cents. > > JMM. > > -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Security Without Borders
On 21/01/17 20:51, Yosem Companys wrote: > Awesome. Critical and needed initiative. A thank you goes out to > Claudio Guarnieri, Collin Anderson, and their colleagues for putting > this together. I certainly could have benefited from a project like > this during the Arab Spring in my advice to pro-democracy activists. > > Claudio and Collin, if you need any help getting this project off the > ground, please let us know. We'd be happy to put whatever resources we > can assemble at Stanford University to help you. [You are welcome, Cecilia.] Yosem: I think they will be very happy to read you if you tell them the same to their official channel. I asked them about the chat the announced on twitter (on twitter) and I didn't receive an answer yet because they seem very busy. Is just my suggestion, but I really believe they will appreciate your offer if you go right there on the communication place they use. Sincerely yours, Cristina (99) -- Esta comunicación puede ser legal y/o ilegalmente recogida, almacenada y utilizada por distintos actores. Si duda sobre el contenido a compartir, evite enviarlo sin cifrar. -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]
On 14/01/17 10:02, carlo von lynX wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 07:26:29PM -0500, Sebastian Benthall wrote: >> https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/13/ > I've also read > http://www.golem.de/news/schluesselaustausch-aufregung-um-angebliche-whatsapp-backdoor-1701-125571.html > and https://tobi.rocks/pdf/whatsappslides.pdf > and to me it seems like all of the articles are > technically describing the same procedure. > The difference is only in the framing. > > For Facebook it is a necessity that people not be > bothered by key changes, for anyone in the libtech > business it is an alarming signal that MITM is > technicaly possible by default and users must be > specifically aware of the issue to avoid it. > > But why is anyone even expecting any true privacy > from an American proprietary product? Have the > PRISM and MUSCULAR programs suddenly been discontinued? > Has Freedom Act amended NSLs also for non-Americans? > How could Facebook afford not to pump everything they > can get into XKEYSCORE as before? Why did the European > Supreme Court rule that the US is not a safe harbor > for EU citizen data? Did I miss any recent developments? > > Is it the general strategy to have people debate whether > there is a backdoor when by law Whatsapp MUST have some > backdoor? > this just can be answer with a : <3 thanks Carlo! amnesic seems to be the sign of our society, thanks to the ones that remains coherent. Cristina (99) -- Esta comunicación puede ser legal y/o ilegalmente recogida, almacenada y utilizada por distintos actores. Si duda sobre el contenido a compartir, evite enviarlo sin cifrar. -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Muslims do not feel safe any more
On 06/07/16 01:29, Al Billings wrote: > Maybe not in your country... I'm talking about all countries that signed and ratified -at least- the American Convention of Human Rights... ups! US didn't! What strange "privilege" you have... > >> On Jul 5, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Cristina [efecto99] wrote: >> >> Free speech cannot be allowed if it contain racial, religious, gender or any >> other similar discrimination, because could become an apology for >> xenophobia, etc. -- Esta comunicación puede ser ilegalmente recogida y almacenada por la Agencia Nacional de Seguridad de los EEUU (NSA) + otras. -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Muslims do not feel safe any more
On 15/06/16 14:25, Thomas Delrue wrote:
> On 06/15/2016 12:44 PM, Maria Al-Masani wrote:
>
>> I briefly supported Trump before he started going crazy.
> There was a /before/? (sorry, couldn't resist)
me neither: there was??!!
>
>> I support the right of the left and right wing to discuss their ideas, but
>> when it comes to bismerching and dehumanizing a group in society - whether
>> it's men "it's the patriachy" or "all Muslims" for evil, allowing it hurts
>> the quality of life.
> I'm willing to believe the first part of your claim ("I support the
> right of the left and right wing to discuss their ideas"),
> unfortunately, it is followed with a 'but' and what follows seems to
> create a discrepancy with the initial claim.
> Anyone has the right to free speech, but no-one has the right to force
> you to listen.
It seems Thomas you are from a country that privilege free speech over
any other human right. To know what are we talking about when we claim
about freedom of speech there is a document from NU that explain that
human right (notice than HR are not ideal ideas descending from Heaven:
they are agreements made after abuses from a part of the humanity
against other people, in fact US didn't ratify most of the HR agreements).*
Free speech cannot be allowed if it contain racial, religious, gender or
any other similar discrimination, because could become an apology for
xenophobia, etc.
There is a thin line between freedom of speech and apology of
violence/crimes/etc. and not always is simple to identify where one ends
and the other starts, then sorry, but is not as simply as "you have the
right of don't listen to it".
>> What should people like us do?
> First: don't curtail or limit free speech. Don't even suggest limiting
> it; you wouldn't like the world we'd end up with. Sure, you'll hear
> things you won't like and don't agree with, but so what, you're an adult
> and you can deal with that!
>
> Second: turn off your television and get off of twitter, facebook and
> the like, in fact, stay off of the intertubes for a couple of days. Get
> out of the echo chamber and go out campaigning for what you believe in.
>
> Exercise your right to free speech, while you can, until someone who
> doesn't like what /you/ are saying, tries to censor /you/.
Good advices. I will suggest one more to Maria and the rest of the
readers too: take a look at http://sister-hood.com/ and to the work of
this amazing woman, Deeyah Khan http://deeyah.com/. She is an
inspiration and a dedicate worker for Human Rights and she understand
particularly the muslims people -specially women- situation on the light
of the "war against terrorism". You will not regret of reading and
contact those references I'm sharing with you.
In hope of peace,
Cristina, from Argentina
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_treaties_unsigned_or_unratified_by_the_United_States
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Re: [liberationtech] Videos for a GNU Internet
El 16/01/15 a las 21:11, carlo von lynX escibió: > Since 31c3 has been very interesting in terms of > politics and hacking, but not as much concerning > technologies that are supposed to lead us out of > the broken Internet, here are the missing videos > from the #youbroketheinternet sessions, exploring > the options for a GNU Internet built from scratch. > > Enjoy, and keep your mind open for exciting new thinking. Thanks a lot Carlo!!! Cristina (99) www.foike.org -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
