Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/24/2014 04:41 PM, Al Billings wrote: No offense but those things aren’t contained in my email. Just because they are not found in yours does not mean they are not in the e-mail correspondence of others. - -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703] [ZS] Developer, Project Byzantium: http://project-byzantium.org/ PGP: 0x807B17C1 / 7960 1CDC 85C9 0B63 8D9F DD89 3BD8 FF2B 807B 17C1 WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ PRESS PLAY ON TAPE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT+6bAAAoJED1np1pUQ8Rkeg0P/2pksso9m48GFQDFofGg4Rgk 5P/afDlmG2BM/MgswOkeIglklBbez9GXya3Ts0350OIDqkVgW0WbfBMupwK1Vmdf EvBwEuBsKjlzmJ1i1hJQjaMUZfi9hWWQPFUqAi3lVkKczwMu+cRnJLp7Mg0RHkDP bFX1Mvtrl/SHKoGDai/EVqqRq5HELw0LlSoeU0KFep801z4NpraqA8h0rOW2u+AX VlYfJT5r2l1sre7+/WkcGZP0LFZgWzRO657l5a4r5Vw04E+J+cddRMFHSKnmhSsK QpQi5fUCFaGuaMy1CjwgKhBoVa5KuWPXVmc5vVfgPwBGQoc2zfX8JyfivWrhijbC l36tL2wJv26KFXO8Q4sisjsc0d9jYUnPNVoXmUPdrnFuHqKEJ8jcYJl1DtrVzQY7 Djd067lZIR2kgzPkJGoPloLoJolNHO1wrZobWTdsAx1KEfTT3/Dq0g5Scf0Bw7px xpmh+VT3pdV/Qk6O2ut2eOK0lnxGv+1hu7P8JKfJ/g8V2bo2uporoUPeXpdFa52d FFN8xW8He0Kez0vPMQ83wwjsHXMKcNoOfwhRf7NRYcPL3C62flRjOpInRdm5sh/V BZXMqPUvQcgtvIqzf5h3J51FmAGXtbHir+0vFND/AG57uVEN2YWh1MuB9uUikx4Q cBYkqVkIxLcmQqXm9Mxx =8vDu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 18:55, Al Billings wrote: On Aug 24, 2014, at 1:20 PM, taltman taltm...@stanford.edu wrote: Everything online is ephemeral. Just look at studies on link rot: http://www.gwern.net/Archiving%20URLs For storing the totality of humanity's work, we need to design something more like the Svalbard Global Seed Vault: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault Someone explain to me why I’d *want* my emails stored until the end of time. I’d rather they rot and disappear if I made no effort to keep them. That said, the NSA has a pretty good archive. Jokes about the NSA's archive of your email are cute and all but they miss the point. The goal is to ensure the survival not of conformity or trivia, but of dissent. The Svalbard Global Seed Vault is a good analogy--storing a hundred million seeds of the radiata pine or GMO corn is great if you're Monsanto but somewhat less good if you want to ensure genetic diversity. A purge is coming. First of data, then of users. Distributed, decentralized data will survive. Users in countries hostile to American interests will (hopefully) also survive. Plan ahead. Jens -- J.M. Porup www.JMPorup.com -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:11 PM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote: The goal is to ensure the survival not of conformity or trivia, but of dissent. Whose goal? A purge is coming. First of data, then of users. Distributed, decentralized data will survive. Users in countries hostile to American interests will (hopefully) also survive. /me puts on tinfoil hat. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 19:29, Al Billings wrote: On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:11 PM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote: The goal is to ensure the survival not of conformity or trivia, but of dissent. Whose goal? Those of us who do not wish to see an end to art, to science, to all meaningful colloquy. A purge is coming. First of data, then of users. Distributed, decentralized data will survive. Users in countries hostile to American interests will (hopefully) also survive. /me puts on tinfoil hat. Just imagine, Wiesenthal, that you were arriving in New York, and the people asked you, “How was it in those German concentration camps? What did they do to you?” [. . .] You would tell the truth to the people in America. That’s right. And you know what would happen, Wiesenthal? [. . .] They wouldn’t believe you. They’d say you were crazy. Might even put you into a madhouse. SS-Rottenführer Merz speaking to Simon Wiesenthal, September, 1944 Heil America, Jens -- J.M. Porup www.JMPorup.com -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
No offense but those things aren’t contained in my email. On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:58 PM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote: Those of us who do not wish to see an end to art, to science, to all meaningful colloquy. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
